well i am completely gay i think but i always was kinda straight curios. somehow i couldnt do it with the girls who wanted to do it with me yet, but i think i would really try it with margaret as i like her and i know it would only be fun if we tried it.. mh sound idiotic lol.... but i would really like to do it with a nice girl too sometime just cause im curious :)
Ian, you are far hotter than most people- with your exuberant amount of self confidence. Gender binaries pretty much piss me off, yet seeing people confident is the sexiest thing possible ;)
I think it's really just a knock on the crazy paranoia that struck everybody after 9/11, where we would just blame EVERYTHING on the fact that it happened.
Why does everybody talking with a cam present calls that a show? And why does everybody present then always gets into this ow I am cooler and more out there than you contest?
man i don't really know too much about the whole gay thing but she's a fucking riot. a party with her would probably end up being one of the funniest experiences ever. she had better hop her cute little heiny over to hawaii. i hope she really is bi, because she's one of my "top five", if you know what i mean.
Rather than get all mad and claim you're going to shut down the discourse and not watch us anymore.. maybe you could ask further questions to see if what we meant was what you thought - and in turn keep the dialog going. I don't care if you watch us but I do care if stop the dialog. That is far more important to me than whether or not you watch my YouTube videos.
Then I elected to go on T and have chest surgery and now I'm completely invisible, still queer, still female, still Butch, but a T injected Butch, and completely invisible - even to the GLTBQ community. I was far more (literally) visible before as a big-chested masculine female body.
Maybe you can explain to me what you mean by Butches being invisble? I went from being wildly visible as a masculine, female-bodied person. Pre-hormones, not a day went by, as a visibly female-bodied person without some form of harassment in bathrooms, people gasping for air when they can't figure it out, comments on the street "what the fuck was that?"
I think you misunderstood the dialog Margaret and I were having. Trans people ARE often the most invisible (to the GLBTQ community) not necessarily the rest of the non-queer world and the least heard. An example would be how the HRC deliberately took Trans people out of the ENDA legislation language because they felt they couldn't get it passed with Trans people included. That is a perfect example of Trans people being invisble, unheard, & excluded. That is the context of the conversation.
I'm not an FTM, it is careless/reckless to assume how anyone identifies. I am a Butch and Trans Man. I did not let go of my Butch identity when I came out as Transgendered. I have more than one ID.
Trivia: Her name is spelled CHO and she grew up in San Francisco but hasn't lived there in over 17 years.
I do agree that the term Queer is an umbrella term to include anyone who has earned the right to stand under the letters GLBTQQA (not XYZ). Some have earned it because they are card-carrying, pussy eating Lesbians, some because they are other gendered, some because they love & fuck anyone, and some for their non-conforming, triumphing GLBTQ issues politics. All are welcome and included!
Actually, Margaret, Butches are more invisible than trans people -- as evidenced by this clip where a FTM calls himself a "Butch" -- the two are not interchangeable .. if one is a Butch, one is not a FTM and vice versa; Butches are women who use female pronouns.
All Ian & Margaret are doing is making Butches even MORE invisible than we already are -- he is also giving ammunition to people who say Butches just want to be men.
Actually, on his website, he IDs as a man and says, specifically, he does not ID as male -- but then again, he also says he (incorrectly) IDs a Butch -- but Butches are women, not men, so he is doing both trans people and Butches a disservice by IDing as both while being such a public figure like this.
As a masculine Butch woman, this all pisses me off a TON and people like this are part of the reason why so many young Butches feel that since they are masculine, they HAVE to transition.
Dear santa,
I'd like a date with Margaret Cho....
BigAgitator 5 days ago
well i am completely gay i think but i always was kinda straight curios. somehow i couldnt do it with the girls who wanted to do it with me yet, but i think i would really try it with margaret as i like her and i know it would only be fun if we tried it.. mh sound idiotic lol.... but i would really like to do it with a nice girl too sometime just cause im curious :)
brotmann86 8 months ago
Ian, you are far hotter than most people- with your exuberant amount of self confidence. Gender binaries pretty much piss me off, yet seeing people confident is the sexiest thing possible ;)
Hot Sake?
xoy,
SZ
szonic 1 year ago
She made out with Lucas? So jealous >:)
Czechpartisan 1 year ago
i don't get the 911 joke either :-(
someone explaaain pleeeease ?? :-s
oxforddictonary 2 years ago
two butches? thats gay!
deabrat 2 years ago
Ohhhh! I love her!
originalperloocko 2 years ago
aww yay margaret cho<3 i love her!
calliopelynx 3 years ago 3
can somebody please explain to me the 9/11 reference in margaret's joke...
canadaguy666 3 years ago
I think it's really just a knock on the crazy paranoia that struck everybody after 9/11, where we would just blame EVERYTHING on the fact that it happened.
Thebanjohype 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i cant believe ian harvie is a woman hes kinda hot! o_O
0dour 3 years ago
He is hot, and he's a man. :)
jacnar 3 years ago 8
Wouldn't she ID as pansexual then?
nitroglycerine19 3 years ago
isexual
canadaguy666 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm not sure if she knows the term of pansexual, but what she said would qualify as pan.
EffinPiss 2 years ago
Lmfao. "I like a woman who rolls her own tampons." That is so fucking bizarre and hilarious.
AtomicFall 3 years ago 6
Why does everybody talking with a cam present calls that a show? And why does everybody present then always gets into this ow I am cooler and more out there than you contest?
jakobfrederik 3 years ago
i love the show <3
people are people whatever the hell they want to identify as. If it makes you happy it makes me happy :)
keep it going ian!
icrywhenangelsdie 3 years ago
man i don't really know too much about the whole gay thing but she's a fucking riot. a party with her would probably end up being one of the funniest experiences ever. she had better hop her cute little heiny over to hawaii. i hope she really is bi, because she's one of my "top five", if you know what i mean.
geekdiggy 3 years ago
Rather than get all mad and claim you're going to shut down the discourse and not watch us anymore.. maybe you could ask further questions to see if what we meant was what you thought - and in turn keep the dialog going. I don't care if you watch us but I do care if stop the dialog. That is far more important to me than whether or not you watch my YouTube videos.
ianharvie 3 years ago 2
Then I elected to go on T and have chest surgery and now I'm completely invisible, still queer, still female, still Butch, but a T injected Butch, and completely invisible - even to the GLTBQ community. I was far more (literally) visible before as a big-chested masculine female body.
ianharvie 3 years ago 2
Maybe you can explain to me what you mean by Butches being invisble? I went from being wildly visible as a masculine, female-bodied person. Pre-hormones, not a day went by, as a visibly female-bodied person without some form of harassment in bathrooms, people gasping for air when they can't figure it out, comments on the street "what the fuck was that?"
ianharvie 3 years ago 2
I think you misunderstood the dialog Margaret and I were having. Trans people ARE often the most invisible (to the GLBTQ community) not necessarily the rest of the non-queer world and the least heard. An example would be how the HRC deliberately took Trans people out of the ENDA legislation language because they felt they couldn't get it passed with Trans people included. That is a perfect example of Trans people being invisble, unheard, & excluded. That is the context of the conversation.
ianharvie 3 years ago
I'm not an FTM, it is careless/reckless to assume how anyone identifies. I am a Butch and Trans Man. I did not let go of my Butch identity when I came out as Transgendered. I have more than one ID.
ianharvie 3 years ago
Chow is a frisco queer. Not the majority, but the most visible. Frisco Queers are their own separate breed & nouveau elitist.
#1 they hate the term "frisco", so I get much joy out of that
#2 "queer" is the umbrella, ella, ella of LGBTQXYZ.
So that means A LOT of straight people,who are DYING w/anticipation to be labeled alternative".
DieKia 3 years ago
Trivia: Her name is spelled CHO and she grew up in San Francisco but hasn't lived there in over 17 years.
I do agree that the term Queer is an umbrella term to include anyone who has earned the right to stand under the letters GLBTQQA (not XYZ). Some have earned it because they are card-carrying, pussy eating Lesbians, some because they are other gendered, some because they love & fuck anyone, and some for their non-conforming, triumphing GLBTQ issues politics. All are welcome and included!
ianharvie 3 years ago
Actually, Margaret, Butches are more invisible than trans people -- as evidenced by this clip where a FTM calls himself a "Butch" -- the two are not interchangeable .. if one is a Butch, one is not a FTM and vice versa; Butches are women who use female pronouns.
All Ian & Margaret are doing is making Butches even MORE invisible than we already are -- he is also giving ammunition to people who say Butches just want to be men.
Done watching Margaret Cho AND Ian Harvie.
faolchuscatha 3 years ago
amazing
nickmccarthyy 3 years ago
Is Ian male or female? Sorry for a pathetic question but just curious.
mashztone22 3 years ago
Ian Harvie was born female, and currently identifies as male. For all intents and purposes, he is a man.
unionjacklyn 3 years ago
Actually, on his website, he IDs as a man and says, specifically, he does not ID as male -- but then again, he also says he (incorrectly) IDs a Butch -- but Butches are women, not men, so he is doing both trans people and Butches a disservice by IDing as both while being such a public figure like this.
As a masculine Butch woman, this all pisses me off a TON and people like this are part of the reason why so many young Butches feel that since they are masculine, they HAVE to transition.
faolchuscatha 3 years ago
hahahaha "i'm not bi i'm i"
rontlmao 3 years ago 3
HAHAHAH "You ain't had til you've had dick in your ass and tits on your back" OMG
HIMYNAMEISRYRY 3 years ago 14
Yes
kcam4724 3 years ago 2
Miss Cho is the best!
QueerSwede 3 years ago 2
what comments?
ianharvie 3 years ago
uh, wow. ianharvie, are you censoring comments?
MerynCadell 3 years ago 3
The best Margaret Cho interview yet.
xubemen 3 years ago 4
I LOVE MARGARET!! She is so awesome.
sidian3 3 years ago 4
Wow, she's so honest, what a lady. :D
dekionplexis 3 years ago
Very interesting.
queeramerica 3 years ago
"I like a woman who rolls her own tampons"
awesome :)
InTuneOnTime 3 years ago 4
lol
ryanlsj 3 years ago
Hilarious!
blickblocks 4 years ago 2
I whole heartedly agree that I need to be made out with more!
xenokyle 4 years ago 5
ok, as a trans person, I agree. except talking about us the way we were discussed on this show is a massive turnoff.
bucketoflead 3 years ago 3
Rolls her own tampons! HAHAHA!!!
tfishwish 4 years ago 2
whats the intro sing called??
DanceSissyDance 4 years ago
ohmygod i didnt know ian harvie was a chick but shes a really hot guy oh well
0dour 4 years ago
i assure you, he's not a "chick".
nothingrevolutionary 4 years ago 6
ok wait I like two butches together. It's hot
skamanoa 4 years ago 5