It is really sad to see the way some people speak of these fine candidates who are giving up their personal lives for over a year to run for office. They are all fine people and don't deserve harsh words. Mike Huckabee is the finest politician I have ever seen and an inspiration to us all. He WILL win the presidency in 2012 or 2016 (depending on what happens in Nov)
Are the scholarships we're talking about need- or merit-based? Because quite frankly, if illegal immigrant children are better students than citizens, then they deserve merit-based scholarships - why deprive the child of opportunity because of the sins of his father?
grahambailey: when talking about millions of people, there will be thousands with SAT scores of 1600, thousands with 1599, and so on. Because of that, we can always find U.S. citizens who are as qualified as any illegal alien.
The question isn't why we would deprive illegal aliens, it's why we should deprive U.S. citizens, when illegal aliens are, by definition, citizens of another country and can seek education there.
just a thought, A scholarship is a grant for education. Education is ONLY worth getting if you plan on pursuing a CAREER. Can you find me ONE YOUNG PROFESSIONAL THAT IS ALSO ILLEGAL?
Huckabee, realizing that his super soft record on illegal immigration was going to ruin his presidential aspirations, has just come out with a new "get tough" immigration enforcement plan - which gives all illegals 120 days to register and leave the country or face a 10 year ban on entering the U.S.
The question is - will those who register and leave be able to (almost immediately) return to the U.S. legally? If so - this is nothing more than the Kennedy-McCain plan in new dress.
Huckabee isn't even talking about tuition cuts for illegals, he's talking about the Arkansas Academic Challenge scholarship which is open to ALL qualifying kids. He's saying that if kids of illegals who have been in Arkansas schools since kindergarten can meet the qualifications, they should be able to apply for the scholarship. It's not about a tuition cut people! It IS available to all Arkansas kids, my own kids will be applying.
shojo29: the bill Huck supported (details here: tinyurl dot com/25vwb4), as voted on, simply said:
"Any tuition rate that is granted to residents of Arkansas shall be granted on the same terms to all persons, regardless of immigration status, who have attended a secondary educational institution in Arkansas for at least three (3) years and who have either graduated from an Arkansas high school or received a general education diploma in the state."
But that is not what he is talking about here. If you read through the provisions of the AACS, the qualifications he mentions here are almost word for word the same. Even if he were talking about what you said, it didn't pass.
Don't get me wrong, I hate that my state has been overrun by illegals. I haven't seen anyone out there with a solid plan to get rid of every single one of them. But like someone else asked me, if he stole my car and drove his kids around in it for 15 years, would I give the car to his kids? No, I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't prosecute them for their parents crimes.
shojo29: if he was only refering the the AACS, then he should have specified that. As it is, he gave viewers the false impression that, had the bill passed, it would only give access to tough programs like AACS instead of giving them all the benefits that citizens are entitled to.
As a RESIDENT of AR since 1995 I PERSONALLY witnessed and SUFFERED from the ARROGANT, "How dare you question what I do for IILEGALS at YOUR EXSPENSE!" attitude AND PROGRAMS for ILLEGALS sponsored by the "Huckster" as we lovingly call him here in AR. READ the LAW YOU copied here and "The Huckster" fought tooth and nail for. It CLEARLY shows The Huckster LIED on the "requirements"!
The Huckster goes through ELABORATE LIES to try and cover his ILLEGAL ALIEN loving ass!! "They MUST BE students in AR SCHOOLS from AGE 4 through High School, MUST be DRUG FREE (they're DEALING DRUGS LOL!), and lastly, they MUST be A+ STUDENTS...yeah right LOL!! READ the LAW The Huckster proposed it DOES NOT have ANY of the "requirements" he said it does...LIAR!!
I don't care who your candidate is. CNN rigged this debate and more proof is spilling out minute by minute. Check out my video on one of the guys who asked a question, Mark Strauss. 2 articles where he is quoted telling reporters CNN asked him to edit and reshoot his questions for the Republican debate. Hmmmmm .
CNN REP DEBATE 11-28-07: Did you see/hear that ignorant fool, Jeff Toobin, the CNN "analyst" after the debate. He had no idea about the NAU or SPP. He said that the NAU/SPP "Was a figment of Ron Paul's imagination" . Video makers should have a field day with this!!!!
Romney is a fake...did you watch him DANCE around every question at the debate? Seriously, he's shady. He never gave straight answers b/c he will change his views to get votes...scary!
There isnt unlimited money for scholarships, are we going to let illegals earn money for education? or are we going to let legal citizens earn it? Our citizens should always come before other people in our country illegally.
This guy is the best shot that the Republicans have. Weather you like him or not!! You should be ashamed! Our government is spending our money on war and you are not saying anything but you make accusations on Mike for just proposing the idea!! You IDIOT!
Absolutely. This is a non-issue if you look at the facts. Huckabee is strong on illegal immigration....he just also happens to have a loving heart. It's a nice combo. He doesn't apologize for that.
Last night's exchange caused me to doubt Huckabee's ability to make the tough choices that elected officials must make. He believes that his position on this issue is the compassionate position. But he forgets that the money he would give to the children of illegals is not his money. It's easy to spend other people's money on a so-called good cause. Liberals do it all the time.
StockDoubling: I never called it a "law", only a "bill". Nor is there anything in there implying that it passed. The fact that it passed their House and not their Senate is immaterial to Huckabee's contemporaneous - and continued - support for the bill.
Look at my post and compare it to yours, and you say I'm a moron??? Tsk, Tsk, Tsk!!! I feel sorry for you!!!
nrobyar 3 years ago
It is really sad to see the way some people speak of these fine candidates who are giving up their personal lives for over a year to run for office. They are all fine people and don't deserve harsh words. Mike Huckabee is the finest politician I have ever seen and an inspiration to us all. He WILL win the presidency in 2012 or 2016 (depending on what happens in Nov)
nrobyar 3 years ago
You're a fucking moron.
rick193 3 years ago
Are the scholarships we're talking about need- or merit-based? Because quite frankly, if illegal immigrant children are better students than citizens, then they deserve merit-based scholarships - why deprive the child of opportunity because of the sins of his father?
grahambailey 4 years ago
I dont know, why dont you ask the parents of the legal child who are paying the taxes of education? Is that fair for them?
taymacjack 4 years ago
grahambailey: when talking about millions of people, there will be thousands with SAT scores of 1600, thousands with 1599, and so on. Because of that, we can always find U.S. citizens who are as qualified as any illegal alien.
The question isn't why we would deprive illegal aliens, it's why we should deprive U.S. citizens, when illegal aliens are, by definition, citizens of another country and can seek education there.
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago
just a thought, A scholarship is a grant for education. Education is ONLY worth getting if you plan on pursuing a CAREER. Can you find me ONE YOUNG PROFESSIONAL THAT IS ALSO ILLEGAL?
djbro16 4 years ago
Huckabee, realizing that his super soft record on illegal immigration was going to ruin his presidential aspirations, has just come out with a new "get tough" immigration enforcement plan - which gives all illegals 120 days to register and leave the country or face a 10 year ban on entering the U.S.
The question is - will those who register and leave be able to (almost immediately) return to the U.S. legally? If so - this is nothing more than the Kennedy-McCain plan in new dress.
chissykim 4 years ago
Huckabee isn't even talking about tuition cuts for illegals, he's talking about the Arkansas Academic Challenge scholarship which is open to ALL qualifying kids. He's saying that if kids of illegals who have been in Arkansas schools since kindergarten can meet the qualifications, they should be able to apply for the scholarship. It's not about a tuition cut people! It IS available to all Arkansas kids, my own kids will be applying.
shojo29 4 years ago
shojo29: the bill Huck supported (details here: tinyurl dot com/25vwb4), as voted on, simply said:
"Any tuition rate that is granted to residents of Arkansas shall be granted on the same terms to all persons, regardless of immigration status, who have attended a secondary educational institution in Arkansas for at least three (3) years and who have either graduated from an Arkansas high school or received a general education diploma in the state."
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago
But that is not what he is talking about here. If you read through the provisions of the AACS, the qualifications he mentions here are almost word for word the same. Even if he were talking about what you said, it didn't pass.
shojo29 4 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I hate that my state has been overrun by illegals. I haven't seen anyone out there with a solid plan to get rid of every single one of them. But like someone else asked me, if he stole my car and drove his kids around in it for 15 years, would I give the car to his kids? No, I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't prosecute them for their parents crimes.
shojo29 4 years ago
shojo29: if he was only refering the the AACS, then he should have specified that. As it is, he gave viewers the false impression that, had the bill passed, it would only give access to tough programs like AACS instead of giving them all the benefits that citizens are entitled to.
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago
As a RESIDENT of AR since 1995 I PERSONALLY witnessed and SUFFERED from the ARROGANT, "How dare you question what I do for IILEGALS at YOUR EXSPENSE!" attitude AND PROGRAMS for ILLEGALS sponsored by the "Huckster" as we lovingly call him here in AR. READ the LAW YOU copied here and "The Huckster" fought tooth and nail for. It CLEARLY shows The Huckster LIED on the "requirements"!
remyfla 4 years ago
The Huckster goes through ELABORATE LIES to try and cover his ILLEGAL ALIEN loving ass!! "They MUST BE students in AR SCHOOLS from AGE 4 through High School, MUST be DRUG FREE (they're DEALING DRUGS LOL!), and lastly, they MUST be A+ STUDENTS...yeah right LOL!! READ the LAW The Huckster proposed it DOES NOT have ANY of the "requirements" he said it does...LIAR!!
remyfla 4 years ago
I don't care who your candidate is. CNN rigged this debate and more proof is spilling out minute by minute. Check out my video on one of the guys who asked a question, Mark Strauss. 2 articles where he is quoted telling reporters CNN asked him to edit and reshoot his questions for the Republican debate. Hmmmmm .
fuzzybekool 4 years ago
CNN REP DEBATE 11-28-07: Did you see/hear that ignorant fool, Jeff Toobin, the CNN "analyst" after the debate. He had no idea about the NAU or SPP. He said that the NAU/SPP "Was a figment of Ron Paul's imagination" . Video makers should have a field day with this!!!!
Google: CFR / NAU & 2008 Presidential Candidates
YTsearch - CNN REP DEBATE 11-28-07
afactorfiction 4 years ago
Romney is a fake...did you watch him DANCE around every question at the debate? Seriously, he's shady. He never gave straight answers b/c he will change his views to get votes...scary!
jakelassiter 4 years ago
There isnt unlimited money for scholarships, are we going to let illegals earn money for education? or are we going to let legal citizens earn it? Our citizens should always come before other people in our country illegally.
hydroponicrose 4 years ago
what a fucking moron, why would the alien need to be "drug and alcohol" free
mariovalspi 4 years ago
This guy is the best shot that the Republicans have. Weather you like him or not!! You should be ashamed! Our government is spending our money on war and you are not saying anything but you make accusations on Mike for just proposing the idea!! You IDIOT!
KnigtsOfTheCross 4 years ago
Absolutely. This is a non-issue if you look at the facts. Huckabee is strong on illegal immigration....he just also happens to have a loving heart. It's a nice combo. He doesn't apologize for that.
jakelassiter 4 years ago
Last night's exchange caused me to doubt Huckabee's ability to make the tough choices that elected officials must make. He believes that his position on this issue is the compassionate position. But he forgets that the money he would give to the children of illegals is not his money. It's easy to spend other people's money on a so-called good cause. Liberals do it all the time.
hlynnj 4 years ago
Huck is the next Prez, Romney is a Racist
MexicansforMike 4 years ago
Go HUCKABEE!!
onehawtmama 4 years ago
Mike is amazing.
BapestaB 4 years ago
I must agree
onehawtmama 4 years ago
StockDoubling: I never called it a "law", only a "bill". Nor is there anything in there implying that it passed. The fact that it passed their House and not their Senate is immaterial to Huckabee's contemporaneous - and continued - support for the bill.
NoMoreBlatherDotCom 4 years ago