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  • What is this, some wanna-be news channel? Get rid of the tacky music, get a decent camera, and forget the overly dramatic shots of you saying how bad it is to be homeless..

  • Cleveland, Ohio? I always knew it to be horrible. I had to leave the State, then the country, decades ago. I found Clevelanders to be the worst. The nastiest. It just seemed as though evil indifference was in the air. I got the crap beaten out of me year after year and left when I was 18, never to return, no one protected me from my pill popping alcoholic parents. He was trained in the subprime market, this guy has no luck! Where is he now? Any update possible?

  • The background music is so laud I can't hear the guy talking. Please, please next time ditch the music.

  • breakdance and classical music don't go toghether stop fussing on homeless

  • you know you realy are a good person i know this u wanted maybe to give um a home but u know u can't because then u feal bad not u know haelpin all of them it seems to me like u have a big heart just saying and it is hard for u to see people suffer like that and u fed up with how heartless the world is right and how no one cares i know it connie and i can tell u very down to earth and very intellegent and view it from other perspectives so i just saying good vid and good job

  • THERE IS A CORPORATE TAKEOVER OF AMERICA, THE GREEDY HAVE TOO MUCH THE POOR AND OLD MIDDLE CLASS ARE LOSING EVERYTHING.

  • I'm going to help them today.

  • "A lot of people don't get what they deserve in this life, but EVERYBODY gets what they deserve in the afterlife."

    Life isnt fair! People will know loss, suffering, and death. It has always been that way and it will always be that way. But if you have faith, all this temporary pain will vanish on judgement day, and you will have life eternal! It all comes down to faith.

  • about 1/10 homeless people are homeless by choice

  • @bookercreator really...90% of statistics are made up too.

  • @bookercreator what about the other 9 you fuckin gobshite mug

  • @turksmikey I didnt mention the other 9. I was only stating 1/10 hasmade the choice. Don't get so upset over me not mentioning a certain group of people.

  • you are sooooooo hot

  • I've written and recorded a song which I hope will help awareness. The song is called "Drifting" and can be viewed on my "Strummer1able" channel. This is an issue I care dearly about. Thanx.

  • HoustonRockets, you need to get a dose of empathy and compassion. Those two qualities are so scarce now in the U.S. that most Americans don't understand the definition of those two terms. My suggestion is that you get a dictionary and maybe have someone explain it to you...

  • the only solution is revolution !

  • @FuzzyCigarDude lol you really know your music history...much respect. she probably heard it and thought "this sounds kinda sad, im going to use it". She's a total idiot and looks pretty scary/ugly.

  • well, it is nice of these leftist (aka pretend to give a fuck worse than the right...) phony indignant people to cruise down and talk to the little people...

  • Music was unnecessary.

  • This would be better with the music. It's distracting from the message.

  • @jposh707 I agree the music is horriblebut the message is good

  • connie is real pretty

  • how could i download this video for a school project?

  • Sad. This could be anyone. Especially now days. The economy sucks and jobs are scarce.

  • music is way too melodramatic...

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  • Atleast there still are shelters.

  • Sometimes you need to see more info on these people. Perhaps they have a long list of felonies on their record, which makes it very difficult to get a job. The other issues are substance abuse, alcoholism and/or mental illness. Most have families and have exhausted their families help. Many got kicked out of their relatives and friends homes, because of their behavior.

  • This is not to say that all homeless people are lazy because I do understand that there are homeless people who are genuinely unable to work because of physical and mental disabilities. 

  • If you can’t find a job in the U.S.A. then you don’t want one! I hitchhiked all over this planet in my youth and lived out of a backpack for five and a half years and I always managed to find a job. I worked on fishing boats in Norway and Iceland, washed dishes in Germany, worked in construction and on a kibbutz in Israel, taught English in Japan, taught English in Vietnam, worked in construction in Australia, and even worked as a foreman in a machine shop in India. 

  • the virgen fatima selos agrade, she is so happy, what are you guys doing.

  • Because you're ignorant.

  • Im glad that atleast a vast majority of the homeless in the U S dress nicely...Ive seen worse..Either that or Connie pick the ones who are dressed nicely..They had a chance to make something out of themselves(they had a job,a house, a car,a family) but they were ignorant and hence ended up in the streets..How does one loose everything and end up on the streets???If they stuffed up then why didnt they fix these stuff ups soo they dont end up homeless??

  • I applaud people for trying to show the masses how bad a majority of Americans have it in this country. However, I believe their efforts are ill-fated because I just don't believe anyone cares. Religions in this country and their followers claim to appreciate the freedom veterans have provided them but when someone is mentally and/or physically disabled as a direct result of the horrors of war THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!

  • Dear Connie, why does it look like you went home and got naked in bed after each interview? :D

  • We should send the Negro population home to Africa and then we could fill their positions with homeless people. Now that will make America stable again! It's a win win situation for everyone!

  • this isthe exact same project i plan on doing for my project. i had a tough time coming up with questions that wouldnt offend them

  • Reagan started propaganda that poor ppl r lazy, etc., to justify his budget cuts on programs to help the poor. Reality is, chronic poverty itself can lead to alcoholism, mental illness, etc. It's stressful &demeaning to be deprived of one's needs over a long period of time. Not being able to find a decent job makes ppl feel unwanted &incompetent. Once ppl become homeless, it's extremely diff to turn things around--too many obstacles &just getting thru each day is a challenge!

  • @PurrGrrl Many of them are. Get a dose of reality.

  • You can tell a lot about a society by the treat the least fortunate among them. What does that say about the worlds richest country?

  • @MyLesPaulcopy

    Did I say I wanted to make a porno with you ? Sorry,...I am MORE crippled than the homeless and barely alive,. What can a spine crippled man do but lay in his bed.? maybe I will sell poetry, maybe not. But once someone homless has a job-he is employed. No one wants to employ a guy who is too sick to leave his bed......still seek to SAVE MY SOUL. spend a night at the ST JAMES Hotel in NYC or HOTELC ARTER...feel the real homless experience I HAVE, have you?

  • Homelessness is no joke you retards. Try being homeless for a week and see how it feels. THese are human beings who bleed, suffer, and laugh like you do. How about showing some basic human compassion? F******ng capitalist pigs.

  • No wants anything to do with you. Some are compassionate, yes, but in the final analysis one needs money to pay rent and get off the streets. It isn't all about addictions and no one can endure these conditions.

  • Just as in all cases of stereotyping and hate, the homeless suffer the same indignities. It's basically economics, if you don't have money, you can't pay rent, and boom! You're on the streets. Now try to pick yourself up when the community sees that you're homeless. It's as if you're a leper.

  • @MyLesPaulcopy I didnt say Homelessness is a Joke. I just asked if you want to make a porno with me....I will donate to the poor afterward.

  • what song did you use?

  • Connie..wan t to make a PORNO with me LOL

  • when we spell correctly XD

  • How about the banks forfiet thier so-called ownership of Land?

  • To the people making negative comments about other human beings they DO NOT KNOW: most of them could walk in your shoes til they fell apart, an you couldn't even tie the laces on theirs. Your lack of understanding, perception, knowledge, experience, and objectivity concerning these people is a testament to your wilfull ignorance and bigotry. It's not them you are really mad at, you are mad at yourself because you are so ugly inside while your exterior is a total sham of pretend humanity.

  • @pigeonpaddle I work at a homeless shelter here in Vt and i see and hear the rude comment;s people make.. it is sad.

  • @pigeonpaddle A FUCKIN MEN

  • @pigeonpaddle best comment ever, NOONE can argue with that

  • @pigeonpaddle best comment ever, NOONE can argue with that... I think Im going to put that comment on my channel if you dont mind... dont worry Ill give you the credit

  • @youdevil6 Ummm...yes they can... the homeless in the United States are there because they're lazy. If they weren't, they'd be up EVERY DAY looking for work. Do they? NO. Is it because of substance abuse? Maybe. But who's fault is that? Their's. Want to solve a real problem in the world? Get your fucking soldiers out of Iraq and Afghanistan and send them to help the REAL needy in Africa, India and China.

  • @warlordgorgutz1 Over 30% of the homeless in America suffer from a mental disorder of some sort, should they also be up every day looking for the job they cant work or keep?

  • @EugeneWanderer No, they should be in a facility that can harbour and look after them properly. Do you think it's right or even safe to have 'crazies' on the streets? Everyone DESERVES a fair life, equal treatment, etc. but not everyone is CAPABLE of being able to support that life themselves. Sometimes you should stop trying to be nice, caring and selfless, and start being practical and realistic.

  • @warlordgorgutz1 and yes, some of them are a risk to those around them, but the truth of the matter is that most people who suffer from disorders are harmless. they are messed up enough to keep them from living a normal life but not so much to the point of hostility or violence. I understand your stand point, i really do, but there must be more then biggotry and discrimination.

  • Go to a fucking employment agency, plenty of people are struggling, not everyone is asking people for change. In most cases, we dig our own holes, get yourself out of it.

  • im sorry but yo nigga obama has to send a kazzillion dollars a year to isreal and other crap holes , he cant help americans

  • Slideshows, condescending comments of sympathy, and pretty music doesn't help one bit. Go piss off bitch.

  • If Americans had the right Christian upbringing & values & teach their children the same, no American child, woman or man would have to go through such humiliation on the street. Single women must respect their bodies & disallow men to use them for sex & money & men need to protect and respect women, children & elders. Stop being carried away by independence, sex, money, drugs, corruption, media advertisement & Hollywood immoral ambitions. Being in oneness with your Creator & love yourself.

  • why do homeless people sleep on cement even when theres grass nearby

  • Are they imigrants? or citizens?

  • god bless you

    :[ were all people

  • i want to thank you for posting these videos. I went to NYC for the first time last year and some of the homeless there broke my heart. You could tell which ones were on drugs just because of the way they acted, but most of them looked like they had nothing left to live for. Its so heartbreaking. This one guy in particular broke my heart and i gave him what i could around $50. I still think of him. If he's warm, if he's got a warm place to sleep, if he's okay. I still cry when I think of him.

  • a government who does not care about people but are the puppets of the elite who wants to kill innocents all over the world. I hope there is a hell.

  • What "EVERY" human needs in life is faith in themselves first and foremost!!!!! If you give up on yourself and think that you will stay in a terrible situation then chances are you will! Because without faith in yourself you can abandon all hope!!! Some of the greatest successful people in the world are rich and successful because they continued to chase after their dreams inspite of it all! To the homeless people out their reading my message or anyone! Have faith in yourself you will make it!

  • Jesus Is Real.

  • He is. He is also returning for every eye to see.

  • on thing that will help the homeless is to have a reform in divorce because that how a lot of people get homeless

  • Why does serving in the Army in this country have to do anything with being unemployed, broke or homeless. If a person cannot gain skills to fit into an ever-changing economy, they will land into the same unfortunate situation. The myth that people who join the Army or any of the forces are making some big sacrifice should be busted ASAP. People MOSTLY join the forces for an easy life and to get a free education. They are all as smart or stupid as the rest of us.

  • Theres many reasons why people are homeless. Some are homeless because they wanna live their life that way, other because they have lost all their money by spending them on alcohol and some because their wife did throw them out and again other because.....

  • Some lost their jobs because of the recession and the cause of recession is going to war without good enough reason... I remember what George Carlin said. "Oh yeah they have bigger dick? BOMB them"

  • Don't forget identity theft can also cause a person so much oppression that he or she will not be able to get a job until they find out who stole their identity!! It's happend before and it was documented on tv! So do not judge and say its because somebody wants that life or cannot gain the skills to be great in society. Another reason is because of extremely wealthy people that make it diliberately hard on poor family so they can continue to gain more fortune off their poverty. Thats hateful!

  • Yes you are right there is many reasons why people are homeless and thats what i was trying to state.

  • responding to the conclusion in this vid about people falling trough cracks ?

    well, america refused all social standards that europe has because the were to nazi like.

    so in fact they are capitalists and not socialists.

    that means everybody should take care of itself and there is no collective to help the individual or set a lowest limit on what wellfare should look like, nothing to fall back upon,

    no help at all, go live in the park.

    thankfully not all nations are as careless.

  • makes people feel victimized it is a hand out and not a hand out. We should be helping by giving them a hand up and not a hand out many churches do this I have offered hand ups to every homeless i come across because I know of the missions that want to help and most of them say no.

  • @dieper2dieper that's why i plan to go to another country fuck amerikkka

  • yeah, why are there so many homeless people in america ?

    we don't have so many poverty in europe.

    americans is realy a 2nd world nation who's

    warlord's hencemen roam the planet robbing everybody they think they can submit.

    american should be in africa, that would fit perfect.

    wealth in america ? you make me laugh.

    beggars, bum's and ugly fat people to fat to even walk.

    america is disgusting.

  • That's a retarded statement. The problem in America is that the homeless CHOOSE not to get jobs because they have addiction issues. And yes many of us are overweight, but we also have some of the most beautiful people in the world. I could have dealt with those statements... but america should be in Africa?

    The US has an established republic that really attempts to fix the country with welfare, free clinics, and shelters and such. Many African countries are ruled by violence and genocide.

  • yeah, american healthcare, what a joke.

    only if you got money,

    like an african warlord who exploits the people,

    he has exxelent healthcare too,

    much better than any regular american can ever afford. and he doesn't care about homeless drug addicted fat veterans either.

    and so doesn't america.

    your all about profeteering and greed,

    the american dream...

  • and if you watched the video, there were veterans who wer homeless. how dare you call anyone willing to risk their lives like that ugly fat people

  • out of your previous statement those veterans

    chose to be homeless because they are junkies ?

    and, didn't that veteran get payed for his job very well ? or does militairy payment include

    respectfull salutes untill they die ?

    no, the fuckers got payed, now they need to shut the fuck up.

    i think you've been viewing too much propaganda.

  • the 35thousand a beginning serviceman makes really isnt much.

  • well, if you ask me, the chance of getting my head blown of can't be well payed enough, agreed.

    but everybody at least knows what they are goint to earn ?

    maybe they just don't know what kind of job it is.

    maybe that silly american drafting propaganda

    gives people the wrong idea ?

    realy, i visited one of those recruitment centres in pierre years ago.

    it looks like your going to be in a G.I. joe episode mixed with the A-team or something.

    jesus christ,when will americans stop brainwashing ?

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  • I once was a self mutilating homeless junkie, some people brought me to a place where I could change my life Freedom Village U.S.A... There is hope & help for those who want it!

  • i love you

  • what's the name of the song? can you tell, please?

  • It´s "Graduation Song", many many artists played this song in different versions, cant tell which one this is.

  • this video is very touching ppl need to work harder to help the homeless.....

  • I'm sorry Delta and Hiroguam but your comment highlights a serious problem with the armed forces that they exploit people in desperate situations and that is unexceptable.

  • very nice .thank you .I am homeless myself.

  • Delta makes a great point for young people.I just had a talk today with Coast Guard servicemen and they feel lucky to be here in Hawaii and earning very good pay/benefits.And they don't have to go to war ! The military is only and option for young people without handicaps and serious problems.We are hoping Obama will expand that as Roosevelt did to include more.

  • This is so sad...

    But the homeless that are fairly young why dont they join the army or navy? I mean that provides steady pay, great benefits, a direction in life

    Don't mean to sound ignorant here though...

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  • Well you dont have to be in the Army. Theres the navy, airforce, coast guard, border patrol.

    And whether American troops are killing innocent children on purpose is a matter of opinion, not fact.

  • est

  • @vtxtd2 ever heard of this 9/11 thing

  • I seriously wnat to punch this bitch. She acts like she knows what these poor people have to go through every day. How they suffer. No shes doing this so she can act all sympathetic. YOu can tell bc she has to stick her solo shots of herself in there, all big eyed, trying to play that shes so close to these ppl. HA! I would put a months rent on the fact that after she talked to them that she walked away without giving these guys so much as a dollar. Fuk this woman. Usin homeless ppl for atention

  • I came on a city break to NY and, coming form an european country, I was shocked with the number of homeless people in NY and Newark, around in train stations. and they don't look junkies, or alcoholics. some look just normal, talk normal, only with bad clothing and plastic bags sitting around on the streets. really scary. something goes wrong in your life and you end up like this....

  • The american dream is just that-a dream. You have seen homeless people in the USA but you haven,t seen nothing yet- major social problems are on the way, the americans will end up killing each other like in the good old days of the civil war. THE WORLD WILL SEE.

  • well the civial war was better off than the depression. i think you are refering to a combination of the two, depression+civil war. thats whats on the horizon for the good old U.S.A!

  • That's a very Marxist thing to say and apparently that hasn't and most likely won't happen.

    I agree that the American Dream is nothing but a dream, but as for the idea of their being an uprising of the proletariat - well, that's a dream too.

  • Yeah, let's show the true side of America. Keep em coming!

  • holy fuck, this chicks got fire in the eyes

  • i lived on the streets for 15 years and i now take care of my disabled father, who is half paralized, i never got into hard drug/ alchohol, i wrote poetry and held signs that said " POETRY 4 DONATIONS" after being off the streets for 4 1/2 years now i still feel like im not supposed to live a life the way most do, it is stressfull out there and people really do need help, the main thing is that we all feel lost..... as tho our home is not our home, but we all have our paths in life :)

  • And for the record.With all these trades that Brian knows what to do how can he still be homeless? He can work at Mcdonalds or kentucky fried chicken.Cmon now theres a roofing company everywhere who is looking for a laboror humping shingles. Denial and excuses suck.But connie your still hot!!!

  • It's always easier to talk the talk when you don't have to walk it. You can't just sit up here and judge others situation by your own experience. You could be homeless tomorrow(not wishin' you bad luck). I could be, anybody. Nothing's promised to no one except death.

  • Connie is hot and has nice eyes. But lets be real here.Most these poeple are weak and gave up on life and in return bitch about the system."""""Your not working because you dont want to work"""" Its hard to be completely homeless in america. Most these poeple are in denial and refuse to realize this. Sad really!!!

  • Do you know where they located at? I have started to collect items to distribute to them since it has been sooo cold and I don't know where to start. Is there a tent city set up anywhere?

  • some of those homeless people are bad though like if you take out your wallet to give em something they mugyou

  • Thank You Connie, I just want to say, "poor Connie" your so innocent with a big heart trying to educate and enlighten the country to how many homeless there are and how they live....

    and in doing so you find yourself with a "whole new can of worms" so to speak....

    I'm talking about having to deal with all the menal misfits and derelics that are sending you ugly, negative comments on here.

    Just ignore them sweetie and keep on doing what you're doing.

    I came on here to research homelessness.

  • turn a blind eye to date rape??? you are a delusional piece of shit to say that. her making this video has HOW MANY HITS qhich means its making some difference... and its not just in cleveland.. so why dont you shut the fuck up and wait for someone to put a rfi in your coors light you fucking bitch.

  • How the fuck is putting hits on youtube vids helping anyone exactly??

    Let the bitch speak for herself.

  • what do you do to help the homeless you idiot

  • Feed them poisoned wine and cut their smack with caustic soda then I'll come looking for YOU cocksucker

  • just tell the truth,,,,,YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE, AND YOU WISH YOU COULD HARM YOUNG WOMEN, YOU SICK ASS RAPIST

  • Yes you have exposed me, what will it cost to keep you quiet???

  • You're a cutie with a big heart. I struggle to understand the homeless phenomenon. I do well financailly, but my entire family is on the fringes of homelessness, but they are happy. Where as others, who are in the same situation, are often sad. A pattern I noticed is, that blue collar America complains about elitist rich attitude and the homeless may have grievance towards the blue collar America. I guess people should reflect on their own situations better.

  • brian can get a job, brian chooses his own lifestyle... brian is happy right where he is

  • The People In This Video Don't Even Look Homeless.

  • I was homeless in Cleveland 3 years ago because the Social Security Administration denied my disability claim twice before they finally approved me in 2007.

    Tell me - what do homeless people look like?

  • I Would But I Already Know Exactly Where This Is Goinhg, I'll Pass ;)

  • fuck the homeless!

    the homeless are happy!

  • Connie, you have a beautiful heart and soul.

    Thank you for raising awareness.

  • Connie has a good cock sucking mouth. I would like to slam my gun metal wang up her tight pink cornhole.

  • hmm this seem fake

  • This is not a fake.  When I was homeless, I met some of these people in Cleveland.

  • I broke down in tears.

    Well done (:

    I try my best to help the homeless!

  • Paschelbel was an excellent choice for background music.

  • The shelters in America are horible! how could they do that, i thought it's help the homeless.

    Well, at least America give shelters, here in malaysia, the goverment toss the homeless onto one side of the road and let'em be.

    I see people walking away and chasing away homeless people from their property before. I saw things that scarred me for the rest of my young life.

    The Archuleta fans are helping the homeless, join us. Help us help them

    Our website is under construction.

  • how did he lose his wife and children?

  • subwayssluth just because u were homeless doesnt give u aids thats ur fault

  • I was cycled through the NYC HASA homeless emergency shelter system for periods from 2001 into 2005. What I saw, and tried to live through almost killed me. Almost. Some of my friends were not so lucky, and some still live in various hotels and shelters. Most have complex problems, and all of us have HIV. And the problem is getting worse, fast.

  • Poor Peaople! What is the world coming to!

  • mentally illness/drug addition and need to be put in hospitals. And most of the folk are phonies. Who lied

  • The temp agency that Percy talks about is being sued by EEOC because of racial profiling and discrimination. Some of the companies who had contracts with this agency specified they didn't want certain age groups and blacks.

    I hope this agency is closed because they are predatory. They charge for transportation and to cash their own checks. The homeless are lucky to leave with $25.00 after 8 to 10 hours of work.

  • thats terrible

    8-10 hours and $25?

    what has this country come to

  • It's funny how some people who are caught up in materialism and vanity and enjoy being slaves to money look at people on the streets and automatically assume they have it so bad because they don't have many possessions or a "home".

    Many homeless people have extreme faith in God and reject the temporary things that "normal" people spend their entire lives chasing but not always finding.

    Some choose to literally live Psalms 23.

    And many of them are the greatest people you'll ever meet.

  • that is by far the best comment i seen thanks.

  • The disability I have does not prevent me from owning a home. It prevents me from driving. And that is a hellish thing. I live out in a rural area where there are no stores to buy my food, clothes, neccessities. It makes me very angry that out in the countryside that we do not have public transportation here.

  • I've been homeless off and on for a few years and here's how it breaks down. Maybe 15 to 20% have mental disabilities, another 15 to 20% decide to work hard and get off the streets. And for the other 60 to 70% it's a choice and a lifestyle they become comfortable with (addictions, free handouts, many learn to play the social services system and people).

    And people with their good intentions enable homelessness.

  • I became homeless because Social Security denied my disability benefits and there are so many who are homeless because of one or more denials.

    In Cleveland the numbers with mental disabilities is much higher than your figure plus there are a lot of felons who can't find work.

    Many are homeless because of the economy but are working some sort of job.

    Unfortunately, people overlook the homeless women with children who are sheltered because of domestic abuse or the death of a husband.

  • God bless you.

  • I posted below as advocateforthehomeless. I think your documentary is great but am wondering how serious you are about making a difference and getting involved. The Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless in Cleveland is seeking volunteers. Please contact me. We are meeting September 25 at the NEOCH office on Perkins.

    Cindy

  • Is it realistic to expect everyone who's sympathetic to the plight of the homeless to help in the way that that fits in with your idea of how people should be helping? She's already doing a lot more than most just by making this video and spreading a sympathetic and non-exploitative message about the situation.

  • I was homeless-now I help!

    NEOCH fought for the right of the homeless to vote in Ohio. We drive them to the polls!

    We provide FREE legal assistance, FREE voice mail, FREE housing assistance with household items, we publish a newspaper which homeless sell for income.

    Go to our website and find out our ideas of helping the homeless.

    Connie would be an asset to our organization which is non-profit.

  • I know by my own experience that the (so-called) social system is not at all user-friendly or easy, but seriously broken. The politicians think they spend more than enough money, but it is not an effective solution. How about spending less on the present military (Iraq)/foreign aid and take care of the vets and other poor first? No, that would make too much sense.

  • Thank you so much for your advocacy.

    I am on two boards in Cleveland helping the homeless.

    NEOCH is of big help for advocacy and programs.

    Care Alliance provides free health care to the homeless.

    Obviously, I am easy to find and want to talk to you.

    I can provide you with a lot of material and contacts plus I am inviting you to join us in helping us help the homeless.

    You are wrong that you can't do anything. You just did.

    Cindy

  • By the way, I was homeless for 5 months due to denial from Social Security for disability. There are thousands of people who became homeless because of disability.

    Find me! I have a wealth of information for you Connie.

  • It is sad, so many homeless in America; yet billions of Dollars going towards the Iraq war. Many war veterans also end up on the street cuz they get so messed up.

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