Dylan is right on the grounds of tech. however in a war between Star wars and star trek it would depend on conditions. If it was a long protracted war then the Star Wars uni would eventually win, why because they would catch up in tech. The sheer power of people with the force, factoring super luck with precongintion, etc. Force ghost that can kill people, mind powers, soul stealing, etc. Its pretty clear that in a long protracted war Star wars would win but in a quick war star trek would rape.
If Star Trek and Star wars go to war Star Wars wins, why? Because even though their tech looks like fancy steampunk compared to Star Trek if you read the support books and guides for Star Wars and compare them to Star Trek you see something interesting, despite their retro feel Star Wars ships have ridiculously powerful engines so their weapons output is also ridiculously large, far greater than what a federation starship can take. This happens when Lucas starts taking numbers out his ass.
@reignofhope More like when one franchise is about exploration set 300 years into an alternate future (and past what with the eugenics wars and all that), while the other is about epic battles and a massive awe inspiring scale set in the distant past in a distant galaxy.
Also the idea that the navigational deflector can stop lasers of any power is just ludicrous. Not only that, but just because they are called lasers mean nothing as Star Wars "lasers" show very different characteristics.
@Perion I already know that lasers in SW aren't actually lasers, I got tipped off to that in Ep. IV when the beams moved slower than the speed of light. And no, this happens when Lucas starts taking numbers out his ass, like most sci-fi writers do, don't like it? Too bad, it happens anyways.
People like Animecha shoud be lucky about me, although I was hurt by such hurtful remarks about the Federation. I had weird background to my Star Wars problems, just its side effects, not the story itself, and to prove this point, George Lucas did not intend to have people like Animecha act like this. If other pro-Star Trek people stumbe across such remarks, they may not be as lucky as me. I am writing about a wolf-like shirtless effeminate protagonist, Rendle, who is Serinian, NOT human.
If Star Wars and Star Trek ever went to war for some strange reason the result would be Star Wars victory.
Why? Because they are always fighting, its in the name, The federation would have to face the likes of the Separatists, Empire, Rebels, Vong, or the Republic. Yeah I agree with you that one x-wing might no destroy the Federation but what would happen if an entire Imperial Fleet composed of Super Star Destroyers and Tie fighters faced off against a Federation flee. Destruction is what
@animecha You are LUCKY with me, I was NOT alienated, and let me explain. My problems with Star Wars really had NOTHING to do with my liking Star Trek, it was an unfortunate coincidence of the Death Star reminding me of an early childhood nightmare, and the X-Wings hgappend to get in the way of me facing that fear, nobody's fault, just happened to be. Another reason is that I agree with Dylan Roth that Star Trek and Star Wars are NOT in the same category based on evidence. To Be Continued...
@animecha Moving on, I destroyed that problem at Space Mountain this year with my untied bow tie as the antidote to that nightmare the Death Star reminded me of, a nightmare that spawned a troublesome darkness that was against Lion King since 1994 until I defeated it with Orion II starship and my untied bow tie 11/25/2010. I am slowly departing this fixation. I still will join the Federation and fight off Lion King's deep space foes.
@McHughMan1117 seek help for your phobias, I don't care about your taste for movies, and I have replied to your comments in the message, talk to me there.
@McHughMan1117 I have replied to your comments in message form to avoid a shitstorm flood of nonsense. You can find it in your inbox, have a nice day.
@McHughMan1117: trust me... my brother and I jave talked about ST VS SW many times....
I dont know wich universe is tougher or has more fire power..... I dont care about that... I know that if I was alive in eithger universes Id rather role in the Star Trek world.. past the argument of fire power star trek is way way cooler... I dont even see how one can compare... teleport, replictors, holidecks... slicker ship designs...
ST wins..
also ST often tackles important issues I care about
I can only agree to one thing, you can't compare the two. Star Wars as far as story quality, owns star trek. It isn't bad to watch some Star Trek movies once in a blue moon, but I feel that Star Trek is synonymous with geeks who live in caves most of their life playing D&D (perhaps larpers too) O.o but Star Wars deals with a large scale and tier of fans young to old, it is good to enjoy both but I wouldn't be caught a live wearing a star trek costume any day in my life. I am glad I am a nerd.
If you watch star wars clone wars (not the movie or the new tv series, the old 5 mins one) you will see yoda taking down a ship the size of a skyscraper using only the force. So if he were to go agaisnt a federation ship that is only a little bigger im sure he could at least do some serious damage.
Also if you were to put the entire star wars universe agaisnt the entire star trek universe star wars would win on account of the force. I like both series and have watched them countless times but still say star wars would win. If a true sith went agaisnt a federation ship he could deflect or stop any torpedo or laser that it shoots then send it back. Plus he could cut a hole in the ship and use the force or lightsaber to destroy it from the inside out. So star wars wins. Sorry.
Seriously you say star wars vs star trek then you only use the rebel alliance. You should have said all ships from star wars and all ships from star trek then it would be interesting. Your comparing little one man x-wings agaisnt a ship that has hundreds of people. It just doesnt make sense. And star wars is science fiction considering yes the force is like magic but most of it is the same as star trek. Its still good vs evil, star wars uses swords and ships while star trek uses guns and ships.
What about: 2001 vs. Predator. I totally say the black cube would defeat Arnold, hands down. And the monkeys could SO kick predators ass. Thats the most booring space-creature ever. ALIEN all the way and out your stomec
ok i respect all the information you put together in this video but there are to two things id like to point out first yes the normal star wars x-wings wouldn't do a thing but capital ships like a super star destroyer or a mon calamari cruiser would probably be a threat. also the death star II didnt have the exhaust port and could fire a blast every few min. secound i think star wars is a sci-fi becouse of technologic advances like space stations blasters and droids.
Well, I wouldn't doubt there would be someone by that name. At the time, I was talking about the character Leonard Nimoy played in the original show of Star Trek.
You took the wrong side of the argument dylan. You are gonna hear lots of star wars fan do what they are doing right now when trekkies are just backing away lol.
dylan...hahaha...i sat next to u in writing and thinking you know who i am...but this is funny...however i have no room to speak...i use to compete in star wars card competitions...but star wars is better!
I can tell you the same thing in half the time, a Star Destroyer(which uses lasers capable of hitting through the Enterprise's shields, or just ramming into it) like it did the Rebel Blockade Runner. Seriously, look at your facts again, and read some of the below comments to find out about the laser thing.
thanks Dylan, you have no idea how many conversations ive had at school about this topic, those star wars fans just dont get it, so now i can say watch this video and after tell me a Star Destroyer can kill the Enterprise
One thing I'm not sure if Dylan realizes, is that trekkies and "warsies"(I guess that's the nickname) have come to peace about which scifi saga is better. The only difference I see based on all this is that Star Wars just has an audience that includes kids and well as adults. For ST, most kids find themselves wondering what just happened. Either way, both scifi "sagas" are great and should be enjoyed.
For one thing, about the whole "magic" debate...it's kind of like magic with a definition. It is caused by midi- chlorians, and sure you may say that makes no sense, but neither do those medic little packs that doctors on Star Trek ships seem to have. Explain how a little light and a little box are suppose to cure most diseases? So it doesn't have to make sense, and midi-chlorians makes enough sense to me.
The criticism of his laser argument is a valid one. The truth is just because something is called one thing, doesn't change what it truly is. The so called 'lasers' in star wars fire in the form of bolts, something that is uncharacteristic of a laser which is a beam of radiation. Another thing that bugs me is the fact that a laser is simply a beam of radiation so theres no reason if the enterprise takes damage from radiation (as it tends to do) that it would be ineffectual.
As of now Lasers can only take the form of beams, but we cant say for absolute certainty that science and other elements can change that Lasers could be bolts or appear to be bolts. This isn't the same thing but you can make Laser beams appear to be Laser bolts even though they truly are still beams except Military grade test weaponry for Jets.
Thats a nice attempt at a rebuttal but my position still stands, Laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Other than the fact that lasers travel in beams, particles of radiation lack mass and in star wars they are clearly shown blowing people away and causing impact damage. Not to mention that star wars clearly states that Tibbana gas from cloud city is used for its weapons are ammunition to be charged as plasma.
What IM trying to say is that two people can think differently and take them selves on different paths and weapons are no exception Lasers in Star Wars are much more devastating than Star Treks because Star Wars universe never quit finding new ways to improve Laser weapon technology but because Star Treks scientist were thinking differently and were a different situation to them they couldn't see a future for that type of technology. I hope I didn't bother you with my rambling.
You see because Star Wars and Star Trek are two different Universes the scientist and engineers involved have built and designed things differently than the others universe so things that would be advanced in one like Lasers in Star Wars wont be so good in another like Star Trek because they gave up on the evolution of Lasers. This happens all the time in real life with different countries and has even happened in another sci-fi called Battle Tech which is cool and you should checkout
Hi, I enjoy you movies, I have a few things I would like to point out though. It is true that Star Wars uses Lasers as a primary Naval weapon, but just because Star Trek is practically immune to Laser weapons in there universe don't mean that they would be immune to Laser weaponry of Star Wars or other fictional universes (Hope you don't mind I will have to write another comment)
liten up losers, dylan is stating his own freakin opinion!! stop ridiculing him and telling him he is wrong to say some of the stuff he said because at the end of the day it is fiction!! (no offense meant to anyone.. but seriously) all this nonsense about "o you forgot to mention so and so" i say so what! its his opinion and not yours if you dont like it then make your own video about how much you think it was important for dylan to remember it next time.. jeez. dylan you rock man..
oh the grammar police again. I really got very little respect for the English language anyways. Expect to see grammar mistakes cause I really dont give a shit. You know what Im talkn about.
To even compare star wars holograms to star trek holograms is foolish. If the debate ends at "oh star wars has holograms too" then theres no argument cause we all know SW holograms are far less advanced.
Don't forget ion canons...if an ion storm (dim ion clouds)can destroy a trek ship... then logically a highly concentrated blast from an ion cannon would easily tear through a trek ship.
OK...... Lasers are not their only weapon.... they have Proton Torpedos... and they don't look like lasers to me... plus Star Wars have better flyboys they can dodge. And its not magic... LOTR is... not Star Wars midi-chlorians are biological...
And the Death Star is hard to destroy for spaceships who seem to only fire phasers... and what is the difference from lasers and phasers. Star Trek "Lasers" refer to like.. sonar or signal lasers.. and Star Wars lasers are deadly blasts of high tempature
Ur retarded. The people below saying about magic already explains. Ur the worst geek I've ever known, and just because there IS magic, doesnt change it from science fiction. There is still a lot of science included in the movies. Seriously, get ur shit straight BEFORE you go on camera and spew out these things before you given thought into them.
part 3 but yeah star wars way way better then star trek i mean does star trek have there own minitures space and ground games no or an rpg no or sam jackson HELL NO star wars wins case closed
Actually, Star Trek had a space battles game that came out in 1979 and is still being produced. Its also had several RPGs, most of which came out before the first Star Wars RPG.
but in space i disagree manly becasue you decied to pick the rebel alliance x-wings i mean there not that even good of star fighters im sure the uss enterprise would be gone if it got attacked by the EXCUTOR the super ISD and also star wars would have the death star and centerpoint station which has the same fire power. (if you haven't heard about centerpoint station then read arron allstons legacy of the force betrayal)
ok first star wars is a sci-fi. just becasue it has the FORCE doesn't mean it isn't science fiction. i have read many books that have had "magic"(as you call the force) in them and they have been called FICTION. second i do agree with you on the star wars vs star trek ground battle. wait continued on comment part 2 to many caricters
star trek is magic. Time travel,Q,Aliens possesing your bodies. I can name you COUNTLESS episodes of Trek got magical "gods" I know Trekkies love to propagate ST is the future but they got know scientific evidence. A scientist will tell you right now robots are more realisit than time travel. Star Trek has so much pseuodoscience in it.
I disagree, the fascist federation debauchees humans rights while at the same time promoting itself as humanistic. They are nothing short of a communist regime while the rebel alliance is about democracy freedom and equality that promotes the culture of all alien races as art rich in creativity.
Star Trek is better it has teleport and holodecks and replicators. Plus the universe is still new!
I also like in ST everything isnt just. "these are the good guys, these are the bad". Like SW.
Plus i dont know if its the same with white folks. but ST deals with alot of racial, political and cultural issuses that I can always relate to real life.
How is it better? you give allot of reasons without clarifying exactly how its superior in what area. Also star wars deals with race as well, the empire is comprised of only humans but the rebels are a bunch of different races. Thats more that can be said for star trek which views all alien races as being inferior to humans.
I'm going to have to disagree with you again, just because something is famous for an idea doesn't mean that it actually executes the idea well, this is an appeal to majority fallacy. ST was indeed famous for touching on those issues but thats because it did it in a time when the issues were taboo, using its same philosophy on the same issues during this day and age its actually quite dated and ignorant. Case in point is B'Elanna Torres' struggle with her half Klingon/human heritage. Continued--
...When it came down to a struggle of opposing values, it were the human values that were seen as superior. This is a reoccurring theme in ST when an alien race is measured in comparison to the human race, the alien race is almost always shown as being ignorant, inferior, or mistaken and ends up learning a thing or to (or not) from the humans. Continued--
...What star Trek promotes isn't an abolition of racism but a tolerance for those that are inferior to you. But by promoting tolerance you are in fact promoting racism because what your saying is that there are those that are inferior to you, but you need to just accept them for their short comings. This is at odds to SW's attitude which shows many of its alien species being greatly different but equally as capable if not more so than many humans, it promotes true equality, not tolerance.
Its dated to promote tolerance as opposed to equality. But you committed another logical fallacy, appeal to motive fallacy. You assume if I'm white it invalidates my perspective, but you failed to describe how I'm wrong. The fact is my race has no bearing on whether or not I'm right. Your point equates to a 'Racism exists thus talking about racism is relevant and not dated' but you completely dodged my point, I never said they didn't touch on racism, I said their methods for doing so are flawed.
--- I dont want to get ahead of myself. Before I debate anything else. Firdtly I got to dicuss the relevance issue. In the last 2 3 years. Ive herd LOTS of talk about the black community and rap music, the N word discussed regularly on CNN and FOX news.
NEOconservatives like hannity and Rush limbaugh on TV. Muslim extremist christians extremeists? Immi. These issues are still HUGE! Arnt they? Like for reall if you dont think they are you are entiled to your own opinion but D@MN!
... Also your descriptions of how her character is specifically relevant to modern examples is flawed since your description describes a person willing to meld to a society versus joining a racial community but B'Elanna is an example of one side of her heritage actually being racially inferior to the other. Culture versus race, star trek takes the ignorant stance that they are one and the same, the enlightened stance is that they are not.
Man Im sorry but this blows me away. Your B'Elanna theory. To me you couldnt have picked a better example of relevance.
There are MANY B'Elannas out there. ESPECIALLY nowadays. Many B'Elannas that have derooted half or all of themselves to adopt a more accepted mainstream way of life. google: Define "Uncle Tom", or "House N!&&#R" for refference.
I aint arguin what universe is more harmonius cause SW wins. But thats my point.
...The B'Elanna example and the fact its a leap in logic to assume its specifically about modern struggles aside. It doesn't change the fact that you didn't show how I was wrong about star wars approach to race being more enlightened than that of star treks. My point is as a whole, star treks promotes a superior race mentality in terms of the human race. That that philosophy of superiority with tolerance perpetuates racism, if I am wrong please show me.
Dylan, you definately make some valid points. I really couldn't figure out why anyone would even bother comparing them, they're nothing alike! Keep up the series, man.
Dylan, I would argue that if you base your views only on the information given by the Star Wars Movies, the Force is created by midi-chlorians in the body: something biological. Thus, the Force would be based on science and not magic. (Though, the first trilogy, since it did not have anything about midi-chlorians, would technically stand alone as "space fantasy.")
Dylan is right on the grounds of tech. however in a war between Star wars and star trek it would depend on conditions. If it was a long protracted war then the Star Wars uni would eventually win, why because they would catch up in tech. The sheer power of people with the force, factoring super luck with precongintion, etc. Force ghost that can kill people, mind powers, soul stealing, etc. Its pretty clear that in a long protracted war Star wars would win but in a quick war star trek would rape.
Ryukikon 3 months ago
If Star Trek and Star wars go to war Star Wars wins, why? Because even though their tech looks like fancy steampunk compared to Star Trek if you read the support books and guides for Star Wars and compare them to Star Trek you see something interesting, despite their retro feel Star Wars ships have ridiculously powerful engines so their weapons output is also ridiculously large, far greater than what a federation starship can take. This happens when Lucas starts taking numbers out his ass.
reignofhope 10 months ago
@reignofhope More like when one franchise is about exploration set 300 years into an alternate future (and past what with the eugenics wars and all that), while the other is about epic battles and a massive awe inspiring scale set in the distant past in a distant galaxy.
Also the idea that the navigational deflector can stop lasers of any power is just ludicrous. Not only that, but just because they are called lasers mean nothing as Star Wars "lasers" show very different characteristics.
Perion 6 months ago
@Perion I already know that lasers in SW aren't actually lasers, I got tipped off to that in Ep. IV when the beams moved slower than the speed of light. And no, this happens when Lucas starts taking numbers out his ass, like most sci-fi writers do, don't like it? Too bad, it happens anyways.
reignofhope 6 months ago
@reignofhope Just saying that the figures given make sense what with the intent of the series to be on such a grand scale and all.
Perion 6 months ago
People like Animecha shoud be lucky about me, although I was hurt by such hurtful remarks about the Federation. I had weird background to my Star Wars problems, just its side effects, not the story itself, and to prove this point, George Lucas did not intend to have people like Animecha act like this. If other pro-Star Trek people stumbe across such remarks, they may not be as lucky as me. I am writing about a wolf-like shirtless effeminate protagonist, Rendle, who is Serinian, NOT human.
MrOdyssey1999 1 year ago
amazing video.
AtheistDictator 1 year ago
If Star Wars and Star Trek ever went to war for some strange reason the result would be Star Wars victory.
Why? Because they are always fighting, its in the name, The federation would have to face the likes of the Separatists, Empire, Rebels, Vong, or the Republic. Yeah I agree with you that one x-wing might no destroy the Federation but what would happen if an entire Imperial Fleet composed of Super Star Destroyers and Tie fighters faced off against a Federation flee. Destruction is what
Sizzmaster6985 1 year ago
Ummm im just gonna say that trek is just overall better :) We may not be magical butwe have Mr. Spock XD
catydolen1717 1 year ago
*cough* *star wars way better* *cough*
roolrr22 1 year ago
@McHughMan1117 *sigh* the reason I sent you a message was to AVOID a shitstorm of spam, please reply to me there or this discussion is over.
animecha 1 year ago
@animecha You are LUCKY with me, I was NOT alienated, and let me explain. My problems with Star Wars really had NOTHING to do with my liking Star Trek, it was an unfortunate coincidence of the Death Star reminding me of an early childhood nightmare, and the X-Wings hgappend to get in the way of me facing that fear, nobody's fault, just happened to be. Another reason is that I agree with Dylan Roth that Star Trek and Star Wars are NOT in the same category based on evidence. To Be Continued...
MrOdyssey1999 1 year ago
@animecha Moving on, I destroyed that problem at Space Mountain this year with my untied bow tie as the antidote to that nightmare the Death Star reminded me of, a nightmare that spawned a troublesome darkness that was against Lion King since 1994 until I defeated it with Orion II starship and my untied bow tie 11/25/2010. I am slowly departing this fixation. I still will join the Federation and fight off Lion King's deep space foes.
MrOdyssey1999 1 year ago
@McHughMan1117 seek help for your phobias, I don't care about your taste for movies, and I have replied to your comments in the message, talk to me there.
animecha 1 year ago
@McHughMan1117 I have replied to your comments in message form to avoid a shitstorm flood of nonsense. You can find it in your inbox, have a nice day.
animecha 1 year ago
@McHughMan1117: trust me... my brother and I jave talked about ST VS SW many times....
I dont know wich universe is tougher or has more fire power..... I dont care about that... I know that if I was alive in eithger universes Id rather role in the Star Trek world.. past the argument of fire power star trek is way way cooler... I dont even see how one can compare... teleport, replictors, holidecks... slicker ship designs...
ST wins..
also ST often tackles important issues I care about
Loadfaster 1 year ago
(TNG DS9 VOY)>Star wars>(TOS ENT)
But I give star wars credit when it's due, and some of their tech designs are works of art :)
TheReasonWhyGuy 1 year ago
Dylan, you are an Idiot, plain and simple.
seriously, you even subscribe to the "No Lasers" fallacy, quite amusing.
Perion 2 years ago
I can only agree to one thing, you can't compare the two. Star Wars as far as story quality, owns star trek. It isn't bad to watch some Star Trek movies once in a blue moon, but I feel that Star Trek is synonymous with geeks who live in caves most of their life playing D&D (perhaps larpers too) O.o but Star Wars deals with a large scale and tier of fans young to old, it is good to enjoy both but I wouldn't be caught a live wearing a star trek costume any day in my life. I am glad I am a nerd.
SpeedyVT 2 years ago
the factions can be compared easily, Empire vs Federation, Rebels vs Klingons etc, Star Wars Factions win every time.
Perion 2 years ago
Ok.. you're right.
bloodtears1821 2 years ago
If you watch star wars clone wars (not the movie or the new tv series, the old 5 mins one) you will see yoda taking down a ship the size of a skyscraper using only the force. So if he were to go agaisnt a federation ship that is only a little bigger im sure he could at least do some serious damage.
398744 2 years ago
Also if you were to put the entire star wars universe agaisnt the entire star trek universe star wars would win on account of the force. I like both series and have watched them countless times but still say star wars would win. If a true sith went agaisnt a federation ship he could deflect or stop any torpedo or laser that it shoots then send it back. Plus he could cut a hole in the ship and use the force or lightsaber to destroy it from the inside out. So star wars wins. Sorry.
398744 2 years ago
Seriously you say star wars vs star trek then you only use the rebel alliance. You should have said all ships from star wars and all ships from star trek then it would be interesting. Your comparing little one man x-wings agaisnt a ship that has hundreds of people. It just doesnt make sense. And star wars is science fiction considering yes the force is like magic but most of it is the same as star trek. Its still good vs evil, star wars uses swords and ships while star trek uses guns and ships.
398744 2 years ago
Startrek uses swords too like bat'leth's and mek'leths, don't forget sulus sword from the new movie. LOL
So pretty much what dylan said can actually be dismissed, because it was mostly generalized crap that has been explained already.
blacksun2175 2 years ago
The reason why Star Trek beats Star Wars can be summed up in one sentence :
Orion Slave Girls
( Sorry Princess Leia in her slave outfit just doesn't do it for me).
STSWB5SG1FAN 2 years ago
did you like the new movie?
shaewem 2 years ago
What about: 2001 vs. Predator. I totally say the black cube would defeat Arnold, hands down. And the monkeys could SO kick predators ass. Thats the most booring space-creature ever. ALIEN all the way and out your stomec
zydilak 2 years ago
all i have to say is star trek 4..super gay ass! star wars rules!!!
AnimeTalk 2 years ago
you make other geeks look cool you sad twat
perfectshottwo 3 years ago
you sucks!!!!!!!!!!
pepinrosas 3 years ago
ok i respect all the information you put together in this video but there are to two things id like to point out first yes the normal star wars x-wings wouldn't do a thing but capital ships like a super star destroyer or a mon calamari cruiser would probably be a threat. also the death star II didnt have the exhaust port and could fire a blast every few min. secound i think star wars is a sci-fi becouse of technologic advances like space stations blasters and droids.
gamabunta576 3 years ago
...kid, you're making other nerds look bad. Throw your webcam away PLEASE!!!!
hypershadow87 3 years ago
Mr. Spock is not even a doctor, bunnyrunner. "Bones" is the doctor, I forgot his name but he was great in the show.
Darthstormtrooper60 3 years ago
Actually, there is a Dr. Spock. He is a well known pediatrician who authored many books on baby care.
Because of the name, calling the Trek Spock by "Doctor" is a very common mistake.
TheManiacOnWheelsUSA 2 years ago
Well, I wouldn't doubt there would be someone by that name. At the time, I was talking about the character Leonard Nimoy played in the original show of Star Trek.
Darthstormtrooper60 2 years ago
The character is called Mister Spock. The pediatrician is Dr. Spock.
It's a very common mistake.
TheManiacOnWheelsUSA 2 years ago
Yeah, this was when I didn't watch that much of the original show. Heh, the show is just so addictive now. Unfortunately, I've only seen it on G4.
Darthstormtrooper60 2 years ago
Hey who would win in a fight between Dr Spock and Yoga?
bunnyrunner 3 years ago
You took the wrong side of the argument dylan. You are gonna hear lots of star wars fan do what they are doing right now when trekkies are just backing away lol.
Darthstormtrooper60 3 years ago
here's what u could do to help me:
SHOOT YOURSELF!
nmbr1cub 3 years ago
dylan...hahaha...i sat next to u in writing and thinking you know who i am...but this is funny...however i have no room to speak...i use to compete in star wars card competitions...but star wars is better!
musin379 3 years ago
star trek is gay, star wars rules!!!!!
AnimeTalk 3 years ago
Super Star Destroyers FTW!!!
30 turbo lazers
KrazyKraut101 3 years ago
ha lasers suck compared to phasers
you got pwned
metal101thunder 3 years ago
the amount of pwr turbolazer can unload into a ship would rip the enterprise apart stfu
KrazyKraut101 3 years ago
I can tell you the same thing in half the time, a Star Destroyer(which uses lasers capable of hitting through the Enterprise's shields, or just ramming into it) like it did the Rebel Blockade Runner. Seriously, look at your facts again, and read some of the below comments to find out about the laser thing.
Darthstormtrooper60 3 years ago
thanks Dylan, you have no idea how many conversations ive had at school about this topic, those star wars fans just dont get it, so now i can say watch this video and after tell me a Star Destroyer can kill the Enterprise
BloatedBLARG 3 years ago
One thing I'm not sure if Dylan realizes, is that trekkies and "warsies"(I guess that's the nickname) have come to peace about which scifi saga is better. The only difference I see based on all this is that Star Wars just has an audience that includes kids and well as adults. For ST, most kids find themselves wondering what just happened. Either way, both scifi "sagas" are great and should be enjoyed.
Darthstormtrooper60 4 years ago
WOW... that lancer guy a few posts ago was retarded!
blacksun2175 4 years ago
For one thing, about the whole "magic" debate...it's kind of like magic with a definition. It is caused by midi- chlorians, and sure you may say that makes no sense, but neither do those medic little packs that doctors on Star Trek ships seem to have. Explain how a little light and a little box are suppose to cure most diseases? So it doesn't have to make sense, and midi-chlorians makes enough sense to me.
Darthstormtrooper60 4 years ago
medical kits, im sure our ancestors would have been confused with us taking a pill of aspirin(which is bad for you) and it makes us feel better
pwned
metal101thunder 3 years ago
The criticism of his laser argument is a valid one. The truth is just because something is called one thing, doesn't change what it truly is. The so called 'lasers' in star wars fire in the form of bolts, something that is uncharacteristic of a laser which is a beam of radiation. Another thing that bugs me is the fact that a laser is simply a beam of radiation so theres no reason if the enterprise takes damage from radiation (as it tends to do) that it would be ineffectual.
animecha 4 years ago
As of now Lasers can only take the form of beams, but we cant say for absolute certainty that science and other elements can change that Lasers could be bolts or appear to be bolts. This isn't the same thing but you can make Laser beams appear to be Laser bolts even though they truly are still beams except Military grade test weaponry for Jets.
lancer737 4 years ago
Thats a nice attempt at a rebuttal but my position still stands, Laser is an acronym for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Other than the fact that lasers travel in beams, particles of radiation lack mass and in star wars they are clearly shown blowing people away and causing impact damage. Not to mention that star wars clearly states that Tibbana gas from cloud city is used for its weapons are ammunition to be charged as plasma.
animecha 4 years ago
What IM trying to say is that two people can think differently and take them selves on different paths and weapons are no exception Lasers in Star Wars are much more devastating than Star Treks because Star Wars universe never quit finding new ways to improve Laser weapon technology but because Star Treks scientist were thinking differently and were a different situation to them they couldn't see a future for that type of technology. I hope I didn't bother you with my rambling.
lancer737 4 years ago
You see because Star Wars and Star Trek are two different Universes the scientist and engineers involved have built and designed things differently than the others universe so things that would be advanced in one like Lasers in Star Wars wont be so good in another like Star Trek because they gave up on the evolution of Lasers. This happens all the time in real life with different countries and has even happened in another sci-fi called Battle Tech which is cool and you should checkout
lancer737 4 years ago
for all you know the star wars characters can be microscopic compared to us, since its a different universe and time
metal101thunder 3 years ago
Hi, I enjoy you movies, I have a few things I would like to point out though. It is true that Star Wars uses Lasers as a primary Naval weapon, but just because Star Trek is practically immune to Laser weapons in there universe don't mean that they would be immune to Laser weaponry of Star Wars or other fictional universes (Hope you don't mind I will have to write another comment)
lancer737 4 years ago
liten up losers, dylan is stating his own freakin opinion!! stop ridiculing him and telling him he is wrong to say some of the stuff he said because at the end of the day it is fiction!! (no offense meant to anyone.. but seriously) all this nonsense about "o you forgot to mention so and so" i say so what! its his opinion and not yours if you dont like it then make your own video about how much you think it was important for dylan to remember it next time.. jeez. dylan you rock man..
optimus32 4 years ago
lol is spelt listen wrong..
optimus32 4 years ago
WOW... I couldn't watch it... it burns my eyes
soooo....
I just listened... (I was blinded already)=P
KrazyKraut101 4 years ago
um you forgot Str destroyerz, super star destroyerz and the amount of spr turbolazers thay kary...
1. PEOPLE MAKE THESE VIDEOS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FUN MAKING THEM
2. WRONG, 1 turbo lazer cannon = 5 photons or something
3. REBELS HARDLY GOT CLOSE TO TEH DEATH STAR.
4. SCREW YOU, MAGIC ISN'T THE SAME AS THE FORCE, (they aren't pulling bunniez out of hats are they?)
5.WHO GIVES A FUCK? WHETHER THEY AREN'T IN THE SAME MEDIA? itz just for fun anyways...
GOD
KrazyKraut101 4 years ago 2
what on earth does race have to do with comparing star trek and star wars?
cheese4432 4 years ago
oh the grammar police again. I really got very little respect for the English language anyways. Expect to see grammar mistakes cause I really dont give a shit. You know what Im talkn about.
To even compare star wars holograms to star trek holograms is foolish. If the debate ends at "oh star wars has holograms too" then theres no argument cause we all know SW holograms are far less advanced.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
Don't forget ion canons...if an ion storm (dim ion clouds)can destroy a trek ship... then logically a highly concentrated blast from an ion cannon would easily tear through a trek ship.
blacksun2175 4 years ago
OK...... Lasers are not their only weapon.... they have Proton Torpedos... and they don't look like lasers to me... plus Star Wars have better flyboys they can dodge. And its not magic... LOTR is... not Star Wars midi-chlorians are biological...
And the Death Star is hard to destroy for spaceships who seem to only fire phasers... and what is the difference from lasers and phasers. Star Trek "Lasers" refer to like.. sonar or signal lasers.. and Star Wars lasers are deadly blasts of high tempature
GandysApprentice 4 years ago
It's funny how he uses that "no lasers" fallacy. Turbolaser arent lasers. The word laser is a hold-over term. Much like the words rifle and torpedo.
blacksun2175 4 years ago
I agree, they're both great, why compare them?
raizumichin 4 years ago
bias
cheese4432 4 years ago
Ur retarded. The people below saying about magic already explains. Ur the worst geek I've ever known, and just because there IS magic, doesnt change it from science fiction. There is still a lot of science included in the movies. Seriously, get ur shit straight BEFORE you go on camera and spew out these things before you given thought into them.
crazyninja94 4 years ago
Rock on dude! Cool vid
Ramones226 4 years ago
part 3 but yeah star wars way way better then star trek i mean does star trek have there own minitures space and ground games no or an rpg no or sam jackson HELL NO star wars wins case closed
denji
please repost
darthdenji 4 years ago
Actually, Star Trek had a space battles game that came out in 1979 and is still being produced. Its also had several RPGs, most of which came out before the first Star Wars RPG.
Catterjee 4 years ago
i do ow starship battles. but they dont make new ones.
darthdenji 4 years ago
I saw some in a store just a week ago. starfleetgames dot com
Catterjee 4 years ago
Star Trek is the superior universe. Star Trek the universe is new and its still all about exploration new things to learn and shit.
Star wars is an OLD universe where everywhere is explored nohting suprises anyone.
Plus HOLIGRAM, Transporter, replicator technology.... Ill experience Star wars in a holideck on the enterprise.
what universe can kill the other one? Star Wars? Sure if you want that title take it!
wich universe is better to live in? Star Trek for sure.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
the star wars galaxy is not all explored there are the knowon regions and plus the galaxy of the vong
darthdenji 4 years ago
It's holOgram and star wars also has halOgrams.
cheese4432 4 years ago
here is the rest of my comment
but in space i disagree manly becasue you decied to pick the rebel alliance x-wings i mean there not that even good of star fighters im sure the uss enterprise would be gone if it got attacked by the EXCUTOR the super ISD and also star wars would have the death star and centerpoint station which has the same fire power. (if you haven't heard about centerpoint station then read arron allstons legacy of the force betrayal)
wait read part 3
darthdenji 4 years ago
Star Wars would win. An engineer by the name Micheal Wong has technical commentries for both ST and SW and he proves that.
As for Star Wars being "Magic in space" maybe this Dylan guy hasn't watched enough of Star Trek yet to see the real "magic in space"
PakistanKnight 4 years ago
ok first star wars is a sci-fi. just becasue it has the FORCE doesn't mean it isn't science fiction. i have read many books that have had "magic"(as you call the force) in them and they have been called FICTION. second i do agree with you on the star wars vs star trek ground battle. wait continued on comment part 2 to many caricters
darthdenji 4 years ago 2
star trek is magic. Time travel,Q,Aliens possesing your bodies. I can name you COUNTLESS episodes of Trek got magical "gods" I know Trekkies love to propagate ST is the future but they got know scientific evidence. A scientist will tell you right now robots are more realisit than time travel. Star Trek has so much pseuodoscience in it.
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago 2
Star Wars is better cause it's more realistic.
Star Trek has all fantasy like time travel,the Q,teleport and a whole bunch of other stuff.
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago 2
If your talkin about wich universe is better to live in then Star Trek is better.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
I disagree, the fascist federation debauchees humans rights while at the same time promoting itself as humanistic. They are nothing short of a communist regime while the rebel alliance is about democracy freedom and equality that promotes the culture of all alien races as art rich in creativity.
animecha 4 years ago
animecha
in the situations of racism classism, and such. it comes up OFTEN in ST cause these things are still big probs!
I have said to my self (1 EXAMPLE) "This is exactly what Malcolm X would have done if he was in the same situation as WARF in this epsd!"
agreed SW is more a harmonious universe! Thats the problem!
ST these things are still problms. I apretiate that. SW its mostly rebels vs empire.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
I look at my post not liking how its worded.
SW is not concerned with or not dealing with classism racism/speciesism to the level ST does.
Its NOT a concern in the world of SW.
In ST, these things are a major concern!
I dont see how you can dissagree with that.
ST is on another level in this area.
I thought this was a known about st. Even MLK thought highly of the show and the issues about racism and classim and etc. ST tackled.
SW seriously cannot even compete on this point.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
Star Trek is better it has teleport and holodecks and replicators. Plus the universe is still new!
I also like in ST everything isnt just. "these are the good guys, these are the bad". Like SW.
Plus i dont know if its the same with white folks. but ST deals with alot of racial, political and cultural issuses that I can always relate to real life.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
How is it better? you give allot of reasons without clarifying exactly how its superior in what area. Also star wars deals with race as well, the empire is comprised of only humans but the rebels are a bunch of different races. Thats more that can be said for star trek which views all alien races as being inferior to humans.
animecha 4 years ago
Star wars does not deal with the issues of race, culture, religous beliefs, to the level star trek does.
I dont even see how one can even argue against this.
I thought Star Trek was famous for this. Many races and/or species in both sw & st. but in sw, they just live together, no real concern about it.
In st, beef among different species and civilizations is still a big part of the story.
Ill talk about why I think ST is the superior universe later.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
I'm going to have to disagree with you again, just because something is famous for an idea doesn't mean that it actually executes the idea well, this is an appeal to majority fallacy. ST was indeed famous for touching on those issues but thats because it did it in a time when the issues were taboo, using its same philosophy on the same issues during this day and age its actually quite dated and ignorant. Case in point is B'Elanna Torres' struggle with her half Klingon/human heritage. Continued--
animecha 4 years ago
...When it came down to a struggle of opposing values, it were the human values that were seen as superior. This is a reoccurring theme in ST when an alien race is measured in comparison to the human race, the alien race is almost always shown as being ignorant, inferior, or mistaken and ends up learning a thing or to (or not) from the humans. Continued--
animecha 4 years ago
...What star Trek promotes isn't an abolition of racism but a tolerance for those that are inferior to you. But by promoting tolerance you are in fact promoting racism because what your saying is that there are those that are inferior to you, but you need to just accept them for their short comings. This is at odds to SW's attitude which shows many of its alien species being greatly different but equally as capable if not more so than many humans, it promotes true equality, not tolerance.
animecha 4 years ago
Firstly what! These issues are not relevant and are DATED? Then you use the "B'Elanna Torres' struggle with her half Klingon/human heritage?!"
Dude... I wasnt gonna ask but are you a white guy?
man the B'Elanna example is a PERFECT example of shit I see in the black community now!
In the Black community she would be called Uncle Tom or House N!***R. Look those terms up se if it fits B's character.
Continued:
Loadfaster 4 years ago
Its dated to promote tolerance as opposed to equality. But you committed another logical fallacy, appeal to motive fallacy. You assume if I'm white it invalidates my perspective, but you failed to describe how I'm wrong. The fact is my race has no bearing on whether or not I'm right. Your point equates to a 'Racism exists thus talking about racism is relevant and not dated' but you completely dodged my point, I never said they didn't touch on racism, I said their methods for doing so are flawed.
animecha 4 years ago
--- I dont want to get ahead of myself. Before I debate anything else. Firdtly I got to dicuss the relevance issue. In the last 2 3 years. Ive herd LOTS of talk about the black community and rap music, the N word discussed regularly on CNN and FOX news.
NEOconservatives like hannity and Rush limbaugh on TV. Muslim extremist christians extremeists? Immi. These issues are still HUGE! Arnt they? Like for reall if you dont think they are you are entiled to your own opinion but D@MN!
Loadfaster 4 years ago
... Also your descriptions of how her character is specifically relevant to modern examples is flawed since your description describes a person willing to meld to a society versus joining a racial community but B'Elanna is an example of one side of her heritage actually being racially inferior to the other. Culture versus race, star trek takes the ignorant stance that they are one and the same, the enlightened stance is that they are not.
animecha 4 years ago
Man Im sorry but this blows me away. Your B'Elanna theory. To me you couldnt have picked a better example of relevance.
There are MANY B'Elannas out there. ESPECIALLY nowadays. Many B'Elannas that have derooted half or all of themselves to adopt a more accepted mainstream way of life. google: Define "Uncle Tom", or "House N!&&#R" for refference.
I aint arguin what universe is more harmonius cause SW wins. But thats my point.
Loadfaster 4 years ago
...The B'Elanna example and the fact its a leap in logic to assume its specifically about modern struggles aside. It doesn't change the fact that you didn't show how I was wrong about star wars approach to race being more enlightened than that of star treks. My point is as a whole, star treks promotes a superior race mentality in terms of the human race. That that philosophy of superiority with tolerance perpetuates racism, if I am wrong please show me.
animecha 4 years ago
Dylan, you definately make some valid points. I really couldn't figure out why anyone would even bother comparing them, they're nothing alike! Keep up the series, man.
wingedambersky 4 years ago
Dylan, I would argue that if you base your views only on the information given by the Star Wars Movies, the Force is created by midi-chlorians in the body: something biological. Thus, the Force would be based on science and not magic. (Though, the first trilogy, since it did not have anything about midi-chlorians, would technically stand alone as "space fantasy.")
walrusandcarpenter 4 years ago
Star Wars is better cause it's more realistic.
Star Trek has all fantasy like time travel,the Q,teleport and a whole bunch of other stuff.
vmrgrsergr 4 years ago
haha Starbuk for the Win XD
velkann616 4 years ago
This was well done. Bravo, Dylan!
walrusandcarpenter 4 years ago