No we have had two bad prime minister`s BLAIR that`s the one with the blood on his hand`s then its Brown the one who does not listen to the people thay want people to vote for them But we could not have a vote on the EU just remember all the things we could not have when you go to vote next time .
If their is one thing the SNP is not it is being similar to Labour! I mean, for one thing, we want Independence, whereas Labour doesnt! Surely that proves we are not similar to Labour if not anything else!
When it comes to management the two parties are similar. They differ on the issue of independence and a few minor issues about where to waste money but ideaologically they are both left-wing, statist parties. The SNP even adopted its social democrat platform to appeal to socialist Labour voters as well as political moderates.
Ill tell you something else, unlike the shithole we know as ireland, Scotland was a kingdom! we were never a republic! communisim emprisoned a vast area of europe for over 60 years and still imposes it's horrible will over most of south east asia it is a bloody disease, these useless bastards would have us become a proletariat, there is nothing noble about the proletariate it is a prideless, nationless, coulourless,servile moronic mass of sheeple and i'd rather be dead than join the fxckers!
alba4232 Get this you fxcking imbecile there is no such thing as a free communist state! The so called snp are left wing lunatics and you lot are retarded if you think that they represent a free anything!! these bastards just sat back as nu llie'bour did there bidding and cut away all the Laws protecting Scotlands green belt so that they could build millions of houses all over the country Who for? us? don't be so fxcking stupid our population was only around 5 million,
eire32uuu Who the fxck are you to tell us what we want! the wretched wee tin pot republic you creeps call home is a shithole! now away and see tey yer own buisness. Idiot!
And who the F**ck are you to tell us what we want?I would sooner live in that FREE REPUBLIC than in the Scotland we live in now!As to buisness ...Why don't you see tae yer ain, bawheid!You do seem to have plenty of issues.Gaun get real ya glaikit wee numpty.Scotland forever ....SNP progress and future for Scotland. EEDjits like him Stone age and Prudence Broon och aye an the BN finggggg P Mon ~Scotland WE can do better INDEPENDENCE
Scotland should be fucking Scottish, who wants to be part of the pathetic fucking UK, You're doing well you're british, you do bad you're Irish, Scottish or Welsh. Independence at all costs.
Aye still true! yer jist a nasty wee mick imigrant, hidin behind Scotlands flag, and yer a time past yer repatriation date! We start the REAL SNP and we'll send you lot back tey yer vile wee kingless republic and y can take b'liar and the wee mick clegg that it married with ye!
The snp are communist fascist vermin hiding behind Scotlands flag, the reason that they were not allowed to hold office is that the Scots were not deceived by them, only now after years of dumbing down are the Scots sufficiently retarded to let them in! Probably the irish catholic influence!! A vote f'r these bastards is a knife in Scotlands neck they are worse than liebour!
Sir,the only retarded element on here are you yourself!Good day to you!Gaun bile yer glaikit wee heid!Btw INDEPENDENCE is coming like it or lump it.Sense and reason do prevail you know! SAOR ALBA
Yer vile wee communist party sat on its deceitful arse, as nu liebour did its dirty work for it! These wretches cut away the laws protecting Scotlands green belt, then built millions of houses all over the country to provide homes for the English who now probably outnumber us! Yer either moronic , deranged or both! Soar Alba indeed!! SAIR ALBA mair like! Yer a nothing more than a wee English lackie and a traitor! Yell be the death knell of the nation and if we let you rule were as well dead!
I refer you to my earlier statement in regard to yourself.Noo awa an heid the advice given and stop gien yersel a showin up!Progress and future SNP! INDEPENDENCE
Wrong again Kcoats,you are the only one here who I would regard as being not Scottish.I would actually class you as being anti Scottish.Of course, I won't even begin to dissect your somewhat limited intellect!Once again:Awa an bile yer glaikit wee heid ya bawbag! Saor Alba
So 97kcoats Y hate Scotlands people do you? Im a native of that fair land, and, In my time I met people from all over the British isles, some agreeable others useless, the only ones I found to be generally unwholesome being irish catholics, many of whom give the decent ones an awful name for cowardice, stupidity & murder, These are the vermin behind the false SNP they are also the mindless bastards that voted for the pathological liar war criminal and traitor Tony liar and nu-liebour
the snp are communist facsist vermin, they care nothing for Scotland, and have been hiding behind our flag for as long as they existed, The reason that they were not allowed to hold office is that the Scots were not decieved by them, only now are the Scots becoming retarded enugh to vote for them, probably the irish catholic influance!!
Ah yes, the Barnett formula, the one where the treasury takes a lot with one hand and gives back pocket money with the other. Scotland has 8% of the population of these isles but pays 13% of the tax revenue raised and doesn't get it all back for its own use. Tell me of another country in the world that does that and I'll show you one fucked up country.
I choose to be insulting here as you and others like you, insult our intelligence all the time and expect us to believe your lies.
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i will have to respectfully disagree.
From the figures Ive seen Scotland receives over 7000 per head, followed by Wales/Northern Ireland at around the 6800 mark and England last at around 6500, from what Ive seen England's been the only net contributor to the formula
Not that Im saying England is better, if theres one thing the Union has in common its run by idiots, Labour SNP or otherwise, sadly I dont think that will ever change at the rate things are going.
It's no use globaltraveller and Alba4232, there is no convincing these unionists that we are intent upon self determination at almost any cost. The point is not just can we survive by ourselves but that we have the chance to run our own affairs and be in charge of our own decisions. We will be a small, low population nation which will be much more able to adjust to a world economy and more adaptable to changes in society.
I know arisuta2. I think conversing with Unionists is a bit like Missionary work - you know, trying to help the less fortunate in our society.
They don't really understand the arguments, which is why they have to use dodgy statistics to coerce Scots into staying in the Union, instead of making Scots WANT to stay in the Union. And that's where their argument falls.
Unionism is a bit like Communism in that regard. And look what happened there - Communism broke down very, very abruptly indeed.
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Well other then trying to tell you that the Scottish economy is dangerously dependent on oil, the SNP themselves admited its the corner stone of their independence movement, there's not much else we can try to warn you about, what is Scotland going to do if the oil runs out? What will Scotland do if another economic crisis like this one hits? It wasnt Scottish money that bailed out its banks.
Look, you seem like a fair minded Unionist - and I entirely respect that and your point of view, but your economic points about Scotland are pretty badly misinformed. And I don't blame you for that, the media in the UK are very much to blame for spreading nonsense about Scotland's supposed "good deal".
There probably is a case to be made for the Union, but not a Financial one and not one based on dodgy statistics.
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There will be no real benifit from the Union seperating, dispite what you think you may gain i can assure you you wont, times are tough and things dont look good. The countries in a rut, because things look good for the area some in Scotland want to cut ties and run, good luck in 2020 when the oil's gone. If people want theyre problems solved reform these god damn money wasting gov's into something useful, cause no ones doing it right.
You may think that Scottish independence holds no benefit that is your right .Personally i have another belief and that is that independence will be the best thing for a Scotland that has at the best been held back. by this so called UK!As for tough times and the oil running out.Tough times would be far easier if scotland were independent as for the oil your figures are wrong .We have at least 50 to 60 years worth left off Shetland and to the West! Saor Alba
Considering my figures are from the Scottish government it puts many things into question doesnt it? held back? no, look at history and tell me otherwise, tell me that when Scotland looses 6 billion from taxes just for going independent, tell me that when the only thing keeping Scotland from a budget defect runs out look past the pride and into the future, after all youll live to see it.
The most important advantages that Scotland will get from ridding itself of the United Kingdom is that ability to take responsibility for its own affairs, and the ability to solve its own problems. Those are important principles. Right now, we're hamstrung by many policies which are not set with regard to our needs - that is what independence is all about changing.
I don't know where you get your figures from, but they're obviously not from the Scottish Government which postulated that Scotland actually has a fiscal surplus of £2bn in the most recent financial years. But I'm sure Scotland will run a budget deficit like ALL countries do - Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Australia. They all run budget deficits. Scotland, currently, has to shoulder its share of the UK Budget deficit (which is huge). We'll be better off controlling our own budget deficit.
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Yes £2bn with oil and subs. Now get rid of the Subsidies (im not sure of the exact amount it ranges from anywere from 6-11 billion) then rid oil whichwill be gone in 2020 according to the Government energy report. Scotland could be looking at a defect of over 11 + billion, how is that a good thing? Thats more then the UK defect (before the ressecion) of 8 billion as a whole.
A surplus occurs when REVENUE generated in Scotland is greater than EXPENDITURE in Scotland There aren't any subsidies in there (apart from the subsidy FROM Scotland to the UK in the form of a surplus).
As for oil, I'm not worried about that too much. There are many years left - perhaps as much as 100. Then there is the massive renewable potential that Scotland has, plus carbon storage.
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I am well aware what a surplus is, which is why i shall show this to you
Income from Scotland (£38.3bn) - State Expenditure (£45.3bn) = -£7bn
That was in 2006/2007 including oil and gas rev. (£4.3bn) and taxes ect. thats not a surplus and that was when times were good. and many year left for oil? and energy report put Scotlands oil deposits could run out any time after 2020 so 11 years from now thats not many years
From the Executive summary alone of Government Expenditure and Revenue (Scotland) 2006-2007 from the Scottish Government (and even excluding North Sea oil):
"Total Scottish non-North Sea public sector revenue was estimated at £42.4 billion in 2006-07, equivalent to 8.3 per cent of the comparative total UK non-North Sea public sector revenue."
BTW, tell me, what is England going to do now that the City of London is effectively bust? Because the way I see it, the rest of the UK has no natural resources of any note, no proper industries, no indigenous energy potential, hardly any water to go around and not self sufficient in its own food.
I'd be much more worried about that than the prospect of Scotland's oil being removed from the equation.
Yes I have. I know a lot about the Barnett Formula. Even more than tabloid journalists. I know that Barnett Formula only determines the budget of the Scottish Government (in essence only about 60% of total public spending on Scotland). And also I know that the Barnett Formula only determines the year-to-year increases (or decreases) of the Scottish Government's budget rather than the total amount. The increases and decreases are fairly determined in proportion to Scotland's population.
Is that the 11.3 billion that she took from us in the first place? Not only is your spelling and grammar execrable, your logic and knowledge leave a hell of a lot to be desired too. Why don't you go and boil up a big pan of water and then stick yer heid in it?
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Took from Scotland, no, if you were paying attention you would have seen it comes yearly from English taxes
from your comment it leaves to question your logic of insulting someone over the internet and your knowledge of how things work in the UK do you even know what the Barnett Formula is? not surprisingly most people like you who follow like sheep do not.
Freedom?? How about the English get freedom from Scotland since we have an unelected Scot running our country? Let's say you did get independence from England, do you think that the banks and the corporations or the EU/UN/IMF/WTO is going to let you live "free"? You will be ruled by the same elite handful of people as the rest of the world.
god its not like their is a freakin england army in scotland.. why would scotland go independence? look how England economy..scotland needs england forever untill u sort our ur own country because trust me i'm from London and in England we get way way way! more freakin benifits from all sorts of things, better jobs, better salary, wikid student life! sik univeristies everything! england owns love her n forgive her!
ALEX Salmond has claimed Scots "didn't mind" Margaret Thatcher's notorious 1980s economic policies.
The First Minister also praised the Tories for being "constructive" in the Scottish parliament in an outspoken interview.
Thatchers economic policies that devastated industries and put millions on the dole.
Thatcherism, a Budget Defceit (according to McCrone), public spending. the loss of public sector, defence and also the loss of UK related jobs and contracts.
A FORMER government advisor has called for the system of sharing out public money across Britain to be renegotiated.
Writing in The Scotsman in 2007, former chief economic adviser to the Scottish Office, Professor Gavin McCrone said Scotland is constantly in deficit, even including oil revenues. Therefore an independent Scotland would have to raise taxes or cut public spending.
tw my figures are the official figures and you can see them on the Scottish Government Website.
Nationalists forget that a Norweigan Minister recently scoffed at Scotlands figures saying it's public spending (hospitals, schools etc) was to high to save any future oil monies.
Ireland who the nationalists seem to want to replicate has among the lowest public spending in Europe, some of the highest poverty levels in Europe (higher than Scotland) and is basically using Thatcherism.
Where is Scotland going - in to budget shortfalls, a withdraw from NATO (SNP Policy) and in to the European Parliament with it's single currency and emerging Foreign and Security Policy. I am sure the future European
Foreign Affairs Minister will be only to happy to be Scotlands future global voice.
wisley stop copy and pasting your shit on every snp or scottish vid you twat let the scottish people decide dont poke your british nose where its not wanted we the people of scotland will decide not british twats like you fuk off now eh
Hey Longbow I know that many many cots wish you all the best mate. Contrary to what the English People are told in the media, we Scots believe England should be run by Engish People. The English get nothing from London except their leftovers. You guys are entitled to be first class people in your own country, just the same as the Scots and Welsh.
The Union has served Scotland and England well but its time we split and went our own ways. The English Independent parties are kept down because of the massive voting power down here.
Vote Yes Scotland and free you and us English from this out dated Union.
This video was really one of the best I have seen on the web. Very much Pro Scottish and reflects the mood of our Land & its People. The sad thing is we still dont get our message out that we are Pro English sorting their own problems out too.
FREEDOM!!!!! YES TO SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE
SCO190 6 months ago
great video!
mesmiths 1 year ago
No we have had two bad prime minister`s BLAIR that`s the one with the blood on his hand`s then its Brown the one who does not listen to the people thay want people to vote for them But we could not have a vote on the EU just remember all the things we could not have when you go to vote next time .
newtongrange1 2 years ago
Gordon Brown must be the worst Prime Minister ever!!
Scotland deserves better than this, a lot better!!!
Scotland can and must break free! Only then will Scotland flourish and have the real powers to make a difference!!
Vote SNP and YES for Independence!
euan14 2 years ago 5
The SNP won't make a difference. They're too similar to Labour.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
If their is one thing the SNP is not it is being similar to Labour! I mean, for one thing, we want Independence, whereas Labour doesnt! Surely that proves we are not similar to Labour if not anything else!
euan14 2 years ago 3
When it comes to management the two parties are similar. They differ on the issue of independence and a few minor issues about where to waste money but ideaologically they are both left-wing, statist parties. The SNP even adopted its social democrat platform to appeal to socialist Labour voters as well as political moderates.
WhyCantIVote 2 years ago
What are you waiting for? Its time for scottish freedom. Kick the english crown (or clown) away!
Germany supports the Scottish Freedom movement!
Iron1871 2 years ago 6
Ill tell you something else, unlike the shithole we know as ireland, Scotland was a kingdom! we were never a republic! communisim emprisoned a vast area of europe for over 60 years and still imposes it's horrible will over most of south east asia it is a bloody disease, these useless bastards would have us become a proletariat, there is nothing noble about the proletariate it is a prideless, nationless, coulourless,servile moronic mass of sheeple and i'd rather be dead than join the fxckers!
morearrows 2 years ago
alba4232 Get this you fxcking imbecile there is no such thing as a free communist state! The so called snp are left wing lunatics and you lot are retarded if you think that they represent a free anything!! these bastards just sat back as nu llie'bour did there bidding and cut away all the Laws protecting Scotlands green belt so that they could build millions of houses all over the country Who for? us? don't be so fxcking stupid our population was only around 5 million,
morearrows 2 years ago
eire32uuu Who the fxck are you to tell us what we want! the wretched wee tin pot republic you creeps call home is a shithole! now away and see tey yer own buisness. Idiot!
morearrows 2 years ago
And who the F**ck are you to tell us what we want?I would sooner live in that FREE REPUBLIC than in the Scotland we live in now!As to buisness ...Why don't you see tae yer ain, bawheid!You do seem to have plenty of issues.Gaun get real ya glaikit wee numpty.Scotland forever ....SNP progress and future for Scotland. EEDjits like him Stone age and Prudence Broon och aye an the BN finggggg P Mon ~Scotland WE can do better INDEPENDENCE
alba4232 2 years ago 2
Scotland should be fucking Scottish, who wants to be part of the pathetic fucking UK, You're doing well you're british, you do bad you're Irish, Scottish or Welsh. Independence at all costs.
EIRE32UUU 2 years ago
SAOR ALBA ANOIS
starryplough16 2 years ago
Aye still true! yer jist a nasty wee mick imigrant, hidin behind Scotlands flag, and yer a time past yer repatriation date! We start the REAL SNP and we'll send you lot back tey yer vile wee kingless republic and y can take b'liar and the wee mick clegg that it married with ye!
morearrows 2 years ago
Never set foot in britain or scotland in my life, yer aff yer heed ya turdtalker
starryplough16 2 years ago
The snp are communist fascist vermin hiding behind Scotlands flag, the reason that they were not allowed to hold office is that the Scots were not deceived by them, only now after years of dumbing down are the Scots sufficiently retarded to let them in! Probably the irish catholic influence!! A vote f'r these bastards is a knife in Scotlands neck they are worse than liebour!
morearrows 2 years ago
Sir,the only retarded element on here are you yourself!Good day to you!Gaun bile yer glaikit wee heid!Btw INDEPENDENCE is coming like it or lump it.Sense and reason do prevail you know! SAOR ALBA
alba4232 2 years ago
Yer vile wee communist party sat on its deceitful arse, as nu liebour did its dirty work for it! These wretches cut away the laws protecting Scotlands green belt, then built millions of houses all over the country to provide homes for the English who now probably outnumber us! Yer either moronic , deranged or both! Soar Alba indeed!! SAIR ALBA mair like! Yer a nothing more than a wee English lackie and a traitor! Yell be the death knell of the nation and if we let you rule were as well dead!
morearrows 2 years ago
I refer you to my earlier statement in regard to yourself.Noo awa an heid the advice given and stop gien yersel a showin up!Progress and future SNP! INDEPENDENCE
alba4232 2 years ago
Why do you keep going around these videos? You sad immigrant your not even scottish.
97kcoats 2 years ago
Wrong again Kcoats,you are the only one here who I would regard as being not Scottish.I would actually class you as being anti Scottish.Of course, I won't even begin to dissect your somewhat limited intellect!Once again:Awa an bile yer glaikit wee heid ya bawbag! Saor Alba
alba4232 2 years ago
Only one here? Try 89% of Scots want to stay in the Union. Yeah your right I hate Scottish people they piss me off
97kcoats 2 years ago
So 97kcoats Y hate Scotlands people do you? Im a native of that fair land, and, In my time I met people from all over the British isles, some agreeable others useless, the only ones I found to be generally unwholesome being irish catholics, many of whom give the decent ones an awful name for cowardice, stupidity & murder, These are the vermin behind the false SNP they are also the mindless bastards that voted for the pathological liar war criminal and traitor Tony liar and nu-liebour
morearrows 2 years ago
Agus rud eile, duirt tu is albanach thu??? caint i ngaeilge ansin, amadon. SAOR ALBA
starryplough16 2 years ago
fukin fud that you are son xxx vote snp
ahumanfly1975 2 years ago 3
geek, Get mates.
97kcoats 2 years ago
Where did you get thet figure from?
godstargodstar 2 years ago
I agree and I am Scottish. SNP are Fenian Catholic fucking wanabees.
97kcoats 2 years ago
Wha will be a traitor knave?
Wha can fill a coward's grave?
Wha sae base as be a slave?
Let him turn and flee!
Wha for Scotland's King and law
Freedom's sword will strongly draw?
Freeman stand, or freeman fa'?
Let him follow me!
starryplough16 2 years ago 2
the snp are communist facsist vermin, they care nothing for Scotland, and have been hiding behind our flag for as long as they existed, The reason that they were not allowed to hold office is that the Scots were not decieved by them, only now are the Scots becoming retarded enugh to vote for them, probably the irish catholic influance!!
morearrows 2 years ago
MAGGIE GET TAE FUCK!
euanrocks 2 years ago
Ah yes, the Barnett formula, the one where the treasury takes a lot with one hand and gives back pocket money with the other. Scotland has 8% of the population of these isles but pays 13% of the tax revenue raised and doesn't get it all back for its own use. Tell me of another country in the world that does that and I'll show you one fucked up country.
I choose to be insulting here as you and others like you, insult our intelligence all the time and expect us to believe your lies.
Saor Alba
NeMeImpuneLacessit 2 years ago 21
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Spending per head is higher in Scotland then any other place in the UK, 7000 per head how is that not fair exactly?
Pizza23333 2 years ago
Even on the Government figures, Northern Ireland, NE England and London all have higher per head spending on them than Scotland.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 7
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i will have to respectfully disagree.
From the figures Ive seen Scotland receives over 7000 per head, followed by Wales/Northern Ireland at around the 6800 mark and England last at around 6500, from what Ive seen England's been the only net contributor to the formula
Not that Im saying England is better, if theres one thing the Union has in common its run by idiots, Labour SNP or otherwise, sadly I dont think that will ever change at the rate things are going.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
It's no use globaltraveller and Alba4232, there is no convincing these unionists that we are intent upon self determination at almost any cost. The point is not just can we survive by ourselves but that we have the chance to run our own affairs and be in charge of our own decisions. We will be a small, low population nation which will be much more able to adjust to a world economy and more adaptable to changes in society.
Saor Alba agus Alba gu bragh!
arisuta2 2 years ago 8
I know arisuta2. I think conversing with Unionists is a bit like Missionary work - you know, trying to help the less fortunate in our society.
They don't really understand the arguments, which is why they have to use dodgy statistics to coerce Scots into staying in the Union, instead of making Scots WANT to stay in the Union. And that's where their argument falls.
Unionism is a bit like Communism in that regard. And look what happened there - Communism broke down very, very abruptly indeed.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 8
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Well other then trying to tell you that the Scottish economy is dangerously dependent on oil, the SNP themselves admited its the corner stone of their independence movement, there's not much else we can try to warn you about, what is Scotland going to do if the oil runs out? What will Scotland do if another economic crisis like this one hits? It wasnt Scottish money that bailed out its banks.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
Look, you seem like a fair minded Unionist - and I entirely respect that and your point of view, but your economic points about Scotland are pretty badly misinformed. And I don't blame you for that, the media in the UK are very much to blame for spreading nonsense about Scotland's supposed "good deal".
There probably is a case to be made for the Union, but not a Financial one and not one based on dodgy statistics.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 4
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There will be no real benifit from the Union seperating, dispite what you think you may gain i can assure you you wont, times are tough and things dont look good. The countries in a rut, because things look good for the area some in Scotland want to cut ties and run, good luck in 2020 when the oil's gone. If people want theyre problems solved reform these god damn money wasting gov's into something useful, cause no ones doing it right.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
You may think that Scottish independence holds no benefit that is your right .Personally i have another belief and that is that independence will be the best thing for a Scotland that has at the best been held back. by this so called UK!As for tough times and the oil running out.Tough times would be far easier if scotland were independent as for the oil your figures are wrong .We have at least 50 to 60 years worth left off Shetland and to the West! Saor Alba
alba4232 2 years ago 4
Considering my figures are from the Scottish government it puts many things into question doesnt it? held back? no, look at history and tell me otherwise, tell me that when Scotland looses 6 billion from taxes just for going independent, tell me that when the only thing keeping Scotland from a budget defect runs out look past the pride and into the future, after all youll live to see it.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
The most important advantages that Scotland will get from ridding itself of the United Kingdom is that ability to take responsibility for its own affairs, and the ability to solve its own problems. Those are important principles. Right now, we're hamstrung by many policies which are not set with regard to our needs - that is what independence is all about changing.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 4
I don't know where you get your figures from, but they're obviously not from the Scottish Government which postulated that Scotland actually has a fiscal surplus of £2bn in the most recent financial years. But I'm sure Scotland will run a budget deficit like ALL countries do - Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Australia. They all run budget deficits. Scotland, currently, has to shoulder its share of the UK Budget deficit (which is huge). We'll be better off controlling our own budget deficit.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 4
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Yes £2bn with oil and subs. Now get rid of the Subsidies (im not sure of the exact amount it ranges from anywere from 6-11 billion) then rid oil whichwill be gone in 2020 according to the Government energy report. Scotland could be looking at a defect of over 11 + billion, how is that a good thing? Thats more then the UK defect (before the ressecion) of 8 billion as a whole.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
Let me explain what a surplus is to you.
A surplus occurs when REVENUE generated in Scotland is greater than EXPENDITURE in Scotland There aren't any subsidies in there (apart from the subsidy FROM Scotland to the UK in the form of a surplus).
As for oil, I'm not worried about that too much. There are many years left - perhaps as much as 100. Then there is the massive renewable potential that Scotland has, plus carbon storage.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 7
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I am well aware what a surplus is, which is why i shall show this to you
Income from Scotland (£38.3bn) - State Expenditure (£45.3bn) = -£7bn
That was in 2006/2007 including oil and gas rev. (£4.3bn) and taxes ect. thats not a surplus and that was when times were good. and many year left for oil? and energy report put Scotlands oil deposits could run out any time after 2020 so 11 years from now thats not many years
Pizza23333 2 years ago
Your figures are a complete fantasy.
From the Executive summary alone of Government Expenditure and Revenue (Scotland) 2006-2007 from the Scottish Government (and even excluding North Sea oil):
"Total Scottish non-North Sea public sector revenue was estimated at £42.4 billion in 2006-07, equivalent to 8.3 per cent of the comparative total UK non-North Sea public sector revenue."
globaltraveller 2 years ago 3
BTW, tell me, what is England going to do now that the City of London is effectively bust? Because the way I see it, the rest of the UK has no natural resources of any note, no proper industries, no indigenous energy potential, hardly any water to go around and not self sufficient in its own food.
I'd be much more worried about that than the prospect of Scotland's oil being removed from the equation.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 5
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If England can afford to give 11.3 billion in substadies to Scotland im sure it will survive.
If Scotland runs decets with theoil you should be worried how well it will do without.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
How can England subsidise Scotland, when England is in deficit? I've studied Economics for 5 years and I can't work that one out?
globaltraveller 2 years ago 4
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If youve been in Economic for 5 years then you should have heard of the Barnett Formula
Pizza23333 2 years ago
Yes I have. I know a lot about the Barnett Formula. Even more than tabloid journalists. I know that Barnett Formula only determines the budget of the Scottish Government (in essence only about 60% of total public spending on Scotland). And also I know that the Barnett Formula only determines the year-to-year increases (or decreases) of the Scottish Government's budget rather than the total amount. The increases and decreases are fairly determined in proportion to Scotland's population.
globaltraveller 2 years ago 5
Is that the 11.3 billion that she took from us in the first place? Not only is your spelling and grammar execrable, your logic and knowledge leave a hell of a lot to be desired too. Why don't you go and boil up a big pan of water and then stick yer heid in it?
Saor Alba!
NeMeImpuneLacessit 2 years ago 6
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Took from Scotland, no, if you were paying attention you would have seen it comes yearly from English taxes
from your comment it leaves to question your logic of insulting someone over the internet and your knowledge of how things work in the UK do you even know what the Barnett Formula is? not surprisingly most people like you who follow like sheep do not.
Pizza23333 2 years ago
Freedom?? How about the English get freedom from Scotland since we have an unelected Scot running our country? Let's say you did get independence from England, do you think that the banks and the corporations or the EU/UN/IMF/WTO is going to let you live "free"? You will be ruled by the same elite handful of people as the rest of the world.
gooners105 2 years ago
2010 Yes We Can!!
ELONut 2 years ago
god its not like their is a freakin england army in scotland.. why would scotland go independence? look how England economy..scotland needs england forever untill u sort our ur own country because trust me i'm from London and in England we get way way way! more freakin benifits from all sorts of things, better jobs, better salary, wikid student life! sik univeristies everything! england owns love her n forgive her!
FearAnnihilator 3 years ago
edinburgh is officially the best place in the uk to live.
scottishlad1987 2 years ago
Will somebody please explain to me how Scotland are going to afford an army???
How are you going to pay for a navy and an air force??
Why do Scots want independance anyway??
Racism against the English??
Someone explain!
lee1990hull 3 years ago
Who's going to attack them?
lee1990hull
hydra8888 3 years ago 2
Maybe the Romans are going to have another pop!
Or even the Vikings!
Or maybe even the pesky English!
lee1990hull 3 years ago
" Maybe the Romans are going to have another pop!
Or even the Vikings!
Or maybe even the pesky English! "
Not likely on all accounts.
hydra8888 3 years ago
No shit sherlock!
lee1990hull 3 years ago
ALEX Salmond has claimed Scots "didn't mind" Margaret Thatcher's notorious 1980s economic policies.
The First Minister also praised the Tories for being "constructive" in the Scottish parliament in an outspoken interview.
Thatchers economic policies that devastated industries and put millions on the dole.
Thatcherism, a Budget Defceit (according to McCrone), public spending. the loss of public sector, defence and also the loss of UK related jobs and contracts.
Looking very rosy!!!
Wilsey1000 3 years ago
A FORMER government advisor has called for the system of sharing out public money across Britain to be renegotiated.
Writing in The Scotsman in 2007, former chief economic adviser to the Scottish Office, Professor Gavin McCrone said Scotland is constantly in deficit, even including oil revenues. Therefore an independent Scotland would have to raise taxes or cut public spending.
Wilsey1000 3 years ago
tw my figures are the official figures and you can see them on the Scottish Government Website.
Nationalists forget that a Norweigan Minister recently scoffed at Scotlands figures saying it's public spending (hospitals, schools etc) was to high to save any future oil monies.
Ireland who the nationalists seem to want to replicate has among the lowest public spending in Europe, some of the highest poverty levels in Europe (higher than Scotland) and is basically using Thatcherism.
Wilsey1000 3 years ago
I am not stopping the people of Scotland from deciding they will do so in 2010.
I have merely shown my disagreement with SNP facts and figures.
You obviously don't like this so, and like most nationalists whose economic argument is week, you revert to name calling.
Being called a Twat by you just means so much.
Wilsey1000 3 years ago
Where is Scotland going - in to budget shortfalls, a withdraw from NATO (SNP Policy) and in to the European Parliament with it's single currency and emerging Foreign and Security Policy. I am sure the future European
Foreign Affairs Minister will be only to happy to be Scotlands future global voice.
All the Best.
Wilsey1000 3 years ago
wisley stop copy and pasting your shit on every snp or scottish vid you twat let the scottish people decide dont poke your british nose where its not wanted we the people of scotland will decide not british twats like you fuk off now eh
ahumanfly1975 3 years ago
doing fine till snp ruined britain forever!!!
bobslay12 3 years ago
Hey Longbow I know that many many cots wish you all the best mate. Contrary to what the English People are told in the media, we Scots believe England should be run by Engish People. The English get nothing from London except their leftovers. You guys are entitled to be first class people in your own country, just the same as the Scots and Welsh.
lochinvarborder 3 years ago
What a video !! Absolutely fantastic,big 5*
alexairlie 3 years ago
Trust me, We English want Independence also.
The Union has served Scotland and England well but its time we split and went our own ways. The English Independent parties are kept down because of the massive voting power down here.
Vote Yes Scotland and free you and us English from this out dated Union.
longbow1415 3 years ago 6
SCOTLAND NOT FOR SALE NO SURRENDER
chugger2hotty 3 years ago
thats precisely why we want independence, you twat! Saor Alba!
Chapels 3 years ago
scotland dont buy the sun newspaper biggest load a pish you will read its not the scottish sun its english thro and thro
ahumanfly1975 3 years ago 2
I think this one of the best political videos on youtube well Done! and keep the faith brother!
saor alba
TartanTerror1314 3 years ago 2
Great video and well thought out!
acanthus6 3 years ago 4
cool vid well done.
maddad440 4 years ago 6
This video was really one of the best I have seen on the web. Very much Pro Scottish and reflects the mood of our Land & its People. The sad thing is we still dont get our message out that we are Pro English sorting their own problems out too.
lochinvarborder 4 years ago 12
True. Being pro self determination does not necessarily mean hating on 'the other'. It is about loving what you have and wanting to look after it.
Paperclip2000 3 years ago 2
Well done, really good video! I particularly liked the bit about "sometimes the clothes do not make the man" when it was on Jack McDonnell! ;)
stevenm1320 4 years ago 5
Is that Jack McDonnell Duck?
The twonk's name is Joke McConnell, I think.
NeMeImpuneLacessit 2 years ago