Robert Aumann on Accelerating Change

[brahud]

duh.. someone creates a polymer, that creates a computer chip that creates a computer, that creates a better monitor, that creates a faster chip...... technology facilitates technology. It is logarithmic not linear. Why ask the obvious... geez

[ejohnwright]

It was very good of him to put up with such a rambling interviewer. He did a good job of finding a legitimate question inside of Orban's stream of consciousness, speech-like quasi-questions.

[bighands69]

@ejohnwright

The model put forward by Orban was very logical and easy to understand.

And Mr Aumann understood the question with ease and he is in his eighties.

Unfortunately you seemed to be strugling with the concept of acceleration of technology and the implications of social change.

[ejohnwright]

@bighands69

No one is struggling with the concept of acceleration of technology. It is a rather simple concept.

What I am struggling with is why it took Mr. Orban one full minute to ask a question that could have been asked in a fraction of that time(actually I know why. It is because he speaks broken English). I'm struggling with his desire to give speeches disguised as questions to actual important thinkers. I'm struggling with his inflated sense of self-importance.

[bighands69]

@ejohnwright

Unfortunately there is still allot of people who are unable to endure passages of speech that are one minute in duration but that is not the interviewers problem.

Mr Orban presented the question with logic and not a emotional position that is open to interpretation if that is what you required.

[ejohnwright]

@bighands69

I knew where he was going after ten seconds. The man is not concise.

You seem to be unable to argue about this without insulting me based on things that aren't even present in my comments. First you say I don't understand the concept of acceleration of technology, then you say I require an "emotional position," and actually feel the need to further clarify why such a desire would be illogical. No wonder you think Orban is concise. You have no concept of the relevant.

[bighands69]

@ejohnwright

I have not insulted you.

I have criticized your position on your statement "why it took Mr. Orban one full minute to ask a question that could have been asked in a fraction of that time".

I have also said you seem to be struggling with the question as you seem to think it was a ramble when in fact it was perfectly logical.

If you think that you have understood the question please summarize the entire meaning.

[ejohnwright]

@bighands69

Asserting that I require an emotional position, and accusing me of not understanding a concept when I simply criticized the man who explained it, is indeed insulting, pressumptious, and ridiculous.

A ramble is simply a bit of speech that lacks organization. Cut out the third-grade science fair water boiling analogy. Cut out the reference to Aumann's lack of cell phone use. Cut out the continual use of "ah" and "uhm." It's all unneccessary, and in some cases juvenile.

[ejohnwright]

Oh, and 0:58 - 1:14 is abosultely superfluous.

I just want him to be concise, the actual questions are fine, although I referred to them as quasi-questions and speech-like for a reason. He doesn't ask neutral questions, but instead asserts his opinion in the question and asks if the subject of the interview agrees. Perhaps you don't agree that this is rude, or that it shows a bit of narcicism on Mr. Orban's side. If so, fine. It's not that big of a deal, I suppose.

[bighands69]

@ejohnwright

I have asked you to summarize the meaning and not your emotional opinion that you are presenting.

The boiling of water is a mechanical and logical process that has been used. There is no room for error with such a simple logical process.

[ejohnwright]

@bighands69

It's not an emotional position to say that someone is not being concise. The water boiling analogy is unnecessary and juvenile, not difficult to understand. It does not matter if it is a sound analogy if the thing you're using it to describe is already so simple. It's like saying "one plus one is two, like when you have one jellybean and then another jellybean you have two jellybeans." Nowhere did I say that he made things difficult to understand. I said he rambles.

[ejohnwright]

@ejohnwright

Again. If you're rambling it means your speech lacks organization. If you take too long to describe something, and make unnecessary(not illogical, unnecessary) digressions, you are rambling. So taking one full minute to describe something that you should be able to describe in half that time is rambling, by this definition.

Yet you seem to think that I'm accusing him of giving illogical explanations, though this isn't an insinuation I've made in any of my posts.

[ejohnwright]

@ejohnwright

And I must say that your constant requests for me to explain Mr. Orban's position in detail are quite easily seen through. If the all of his digressions were necessary, then you, understanding his position as well as you claim to, would have been able to explain why they were in fact necessary. Instead you just keep repeating that they are logical digressions, that is that they are logically related to the preceding point. Well, no one even said they weren't.

[Trulliii]

davidorban...-.-". So stupid.

[miurajose]

What exactly was the question?

[Arjetube]

damn it how often does this stupid reporter want to say the word "change"

... obama infected opportunist

[nilbud]

@Arjetube Wow you're a fucking moron. Ha ha ha that was so dumb of you.

[Arjetube]

@nilbud shut the fuck up, you piece of shit. what is your iq ? is it 42 ? like your age, old man ?

[benrebo]

Good god, I've just watched this idiot interview nash, and now he is pestering aumann with his "phase-change", "water-boiling", crap etc. He asks if Aumann, if he is catching up with HIS theory - unbelievable!!!

[simonarcher20002]

Bob Aumann - the creator of the "Common knowledge formalization in game theory" ... one of the finest minds ever ... His thinking is too deep to be captured in words ... Not to mention in English words !!! :))))

Go Robert!

[touchogrey]

I've watched a slew of this interviewer's work and it is embarrassing. He also speaks rather condescendingly

[maxdelbruck]

You can take pictures with a cell phone?Ha! I don't believe it.

[axrarx]

the singularity lol

[axrarx]

this is a horrible question

[esternboiz]

Amazing. Mafaka Hnamte,Mizoram.