At least 85,000 Americans choose to travel abroad for medical procedures each year, according to a recent report by the consulting firm McKinsey & Company. Treatment includes dental implants, hip and knee replacements, heart valve replacements and bypass surgery. The cost of surgery performed overseas can be as little as 20 percent of the price of the same procedure in the United States, according to a recent report by the American Medical Association.
I watched that video before, along with countless others. It's a propaganda video, starting with the very first line were it characterizes Canada's h.c. system as "socialized health care". Canada does not have a socialized h.c. system. Doctors were private before UHC in Canada and are still private. Canada has a universal health care FINANCING system. It is administratively far more efficient than the hodge-podge of players in the U.S. system.
@megarational A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system for Canada
Nope. There are always politicians who try keep taxes low & reduce h.c. costs simply by removing them from gov'.t books & forcing people onto private insurance. The h.c. costs & taxes are not actually reduced, they just take the form of more private insurance premiums which include a healthy profit as well as other built in costs not related to health care.
People fight such near-sighted moves by some politicians.
@megarational According to Dr. Albert Schumacher, former president of the Canadian Medical Association, an estimated 75 percent of Canadian health care services are delivered privately, but funded publicly.
It's like I already told you on a previous comment. Canada has a universal health care financing system, not a universal government health care system. And each province has it's own provincial health care financing system.
@megarational In April 2007, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that all ten provinces and three territories would establish patient wait times guarantees by 2010.. Fuck That !!
Typically this turd references the repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the rich, calling that repeal a "tax increase" but typically makes no mention of the fact that Obama transferred those tax cuts to the middle class.
@megarational After reading your (About Me: )post on your site and considered talking to you about are health care system here in the U.S.A; just then it came to me that you are a 62yr old fucktard canadian; then it hit me omg why am I wasting my time even trying to
The median wait time in Canada to see a special physician is a little over four weeks with 89.5% waiting less than 3 months.The median wait time for diagnostic services such as MRI and CAT scans is two weeks with 86.4% waiting less than 3 months. U can Keep it
@megarational The median wait time for surgery is four weeks with 82.2% waiting less than 3 months. Another study by the Commonwealth Fund found that 57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist, broadly in line with the current official statistics; 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room.
nonsense, the wait time is very comparable to the US, so quit posting lies. if you don't want to use the new public options, then stay with your private plan. nobody is forcing you to change.
UHC was first introduced in Canada in the early 50's. The increase in wait times for some specialists & non-urgent surgeries is much more recent, yet propagandists like you exaggerate it & try to smear the entire system with the more recent increase in wait times.
The prob.s & solutions to wait times are being addressed without scrapping the advantages of a universal h.c. financing system.
Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their h.c. system to the one in the U.S.
Re: house bill tax inc. on highest incomes: The U.S. has one of the widest rich-poor gaps of any high-income nation, and that gap continues to grow. In recent times, prominent economists including Alan Greenspan warned that the widening gap is is a prob.that could undermine and destabilize the economy and standard of living "The income gap between the rich and the rest has become so wide & growing so fast, that it might eventually threaten the stability of democratic capitalism itself".
Harsh judgments on Medicare? The harshest judgment would come in the absence of reform from the huge unfunded liability & the unsustainable costs. The bills provide more funding for Medicare stabilization fund & extends the life of Medicare. The bills also move to close the doughnut hole for seniors.
As for "price controls", this is not part of either bill, yet he can't help himself from using it as propaganda.
So we should fund entitlement programs that are basicly ponzi schemes. These programs will never work with a population thats larger and older than any of its predecessing generations? Tell me how does that work? it doesn't your taking more and more from the future generation.
I notice this clown couldn't help repeating the label "socialized health care" or "government run health care" the GOP applies for propaganda purposes.
The fact is that under either of the bills the private doctors & hospitals would still be private & private insurance would still dominate the h.c. insurance market.
And the specific alternative Republican solution is??????
Oh yeah, it hastily at the last minute introduced an alternative "bill" made up of a mish-mash of small measures they could have taken while they were in power.
The CBO has analyzed that the main GOP talking points, cross state competition and tort reform, would not significantly solve either the escalating cost problem nor the problem of the millions of the uninsured.
Does this fool realize that the "exchange" particularly the national exchange envisioned by the House bill, in effect allows cross state insurance company competition?
Why does he not mention the fact that the tax credits and the exchange provide the opportunity for small businesses & individuals who have to buy insurance direct to pool their purchasing power to compete with larger organizations for lower premiums?
At least 85,000 Americans choose to travel abroad for medical procedures each year, according to a recent report by the consulting firm McKinsey & Company. Treatment includes dental implants, hip and knee replacements, heart valve replacements and bypass surgery. The cost of surgery performed overseas can be as little as 20 percent of the price of the same procedure in the United States, according to a recent report by the American Medical Association.
megarational 2 years ago
watch this video on YouTube
ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada!
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago 2
I watched that video before, along with countless others. It's a propaganda video, starting with the very first line were it characterizes Canada's h.c. system as "socialized health care". Canada does not have a socialized h.c. system. Doctors were private before UHC in Canada and are still private. Canada has a universal health care FINANCING system. It is administratively far more efficient than the hodge-podge of players in the U.S. system.
megarational 2 years ago
@megarational A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system for Canada
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago 2
@megarational Canadians growing to our Private insurance system
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
Nope. There are always politicians who try keep taxes low & reduce h.c. costs simply by removing them from gov'.t books & forcing people onto private insurance. The h.c. costs & taxes are not actually reduced, they just take the form of more private insurance premiums which include a healthy profit as well as other built in costs not related to health care.
People fight such near-sighted moves by some politicians.
megarational 2 years ago
@megarational According to Dr. Albert Schumacher, former president of the Canadian Medical Association, an estimated 75 percent of Canadian health care services are delivered privately, but funded publicly.
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
It's like I already told you on a previous comment. Canada has a universal health care financing system, not a universal government health care system. And each province has it's own provincial health care financing system.
megarational 2 years ago 2
@megarational; propaganda oh no
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
@megarational In April 2007, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that all ten provinces and three territories would establish patient wait times guarantees by 2010.. Fuck That !!
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
@megarational 600,000 Canadians leave the country every year to get surgery that is not available in Canada or to avoid long wait time.
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
U can keep your A health card also called a Care Card Canadian
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
Typically this turd references the repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the rich, calling that repeal a "tax increase" but typically makes no mention of the fact that Obama transferred those tax cuts to the middle class.
megarational 2 years ago
@megarational After reading your (About Me: )post on your site and considered talking to you about are health care system here in the U.S.A; just then it came to me that you are a 62yr old fucktard canadian; then it hit me omg why am I wasting my time even trying to
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
but megarational is right don't forget.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
The median wait time in Canada to see a special physician is a little over four weeks with 89.5% waiting less than 3 months.The median wait time for diagnostic services such as MRI and CAT scans is two weeks with 86.4% waiting less than 3 months. U can Keep it
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
@megarational The median wait time for surgery is four weeks with 82.2% waiting less than 3 months. Another study by the Commonwealth Fund found that 57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist, broadly in line with the current official statistics; 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room.
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
nonsense, the wait time is very comparable to the US, so quit posting lies. if you don't want to use the new public options, then stay with your private plan. nobody is forcing you to change.
tnoyy34rt 2 years ago
@tnoyy34rt copy and past on YouTube Search this:
Does Speaker Nancy Pelosi Dodge Health Care Question?
You Tell Me ?
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago
UHC was first introduced in Canada in the early 50's. The increase in wait times for some specialists & non-urgent surgeries is much more recent, yet propagandists like you exaggerate it & try to smear the entire system with the more recent increase in wait times.
The prob.s & solutions to wait times are being addressed without scrapping the advantages of a universal h.c. financing system.
Canadians overwhelmingly prefer their h.c. system to the one in the U.S.
megarational 2 years ago
@megarational please watch a real Canadian Documentary copy and past this:
ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada!
youll see !
TheGuyFromZhills 2 years ago 2
You obviously don't know enough about the Canadian system to recognize a propaganda film when you watch one.
megarational 2 years ago
Re: house bill tax inc. on highest incomes: The U.S. has one of the widest rich-poor gaps of any high-income nation, and that gap continues to grow. In recent times, prominent economists including Alan Greenspan warned that the widening gap is is a prob.that could undermine and destabilize the economy and standard of living "The income gap between the rich and the rest has become so wide & growing so fast, that it might eventually threaten the stability of democratic capitalism itself".
megarational 2 years ago
Harsh judgments on Medicare? The harshest judgment would come in the absence of reform from the huge unfunded liability & the unsustainable costs. The bills provide more funding for Medicare stabilization fund & extends the life of Medicare. The bills also move to close the doughnut hole for seniors.
As for "price controls", this is not part of either bill, yet he can't help himself from using it as propaganda.
megarational 2 years ago
So we should fund entitlement programs that are basicly ponzi schemes. These programs will never work with a population thats larger and older than any of its predecessing generations? Tell me how does that work? it doesn't your taking more and more from the future generation.
NovusChaoMundi 2 years ago
Ponzi schemes?
No. Social programs do have higher contributions from the upper incomes than from the lower incomes.
So what?
megarational 2 years ago
I notice this clown couldn't help repeating the label "socialized health care" or "government run health care" the GOP applies for propaganda purposes.
The fact is that under either of the bills the private doctors & hospitals would still be private & private insurance would still dominate the h.c. insurance market.
megarational 2 years ago
And the specific alternative Republican solution is??????
Oh yeah, it hastily at the last minute introduced an alternative "bill" made up of a mish-mash of small measures they could have taken while they were in power.
The CBO has analyzed that the main GOP talking points, cross state competition and tort reform, would not significantly solve either the escalating cost problem nor the problem of the millions of the uninsured.
megarational 2 years ago
This video leaves so many facts out, and distorts so many others it's hard to know where to start.
megarational 2 years ago
Just more of the GOP & Ron Paul solution:
Do nothing & rely on the free enterprise system to solve all the problems with the health care system.
Notice he didn't mention anything about the free enterprise system solving the problem of insurance denial for "pre-existing conditions".
megarational 2 years ago
Does this fool realize that the "exchange" particularly the national exchange envisioned by the House bill, in effect allows cross state insurance company competition?
Why does he not mention the fact that the tax credits and the exchange provide the opportunity for small businesses & individuals who have to buy insurance direct to pool their purchasing power to compete with larger organizations for lower premiums?
megarational 2 years ago
Dam straight hope someone frags his ass
NovusChaoMundi 2 years ago
Fuck obama
NovusChaoMundi 2 years ago 2