Sad. Greatest major championship player ever, and nobody's been here to comment in at least nine months.
That up-the-line view (as if he's hitting ball at you) is just incredible. You really see the power in the big turn of the back muscles and the unwinding from the ground up, while the club stays on that great inside path and the butt end of the club keeps moving through impact (which most players experience as the feeling of the left wrist staying flat and not breaking down).
I should've said, great _footage_ of the greatest major championship player in history. You see this and you really think about the power of building your game around four or five simple ideas all your life, like he did (with Grout's assistance), instead of supercomplicating it like everybody does these days.
Just an aside--I love the overall swing, really, and still think he proved himself to be the greatest tournament golfer ever, by virtue of longevity over Hogan and Jones and by virtue of more majors over Snead (and by virtue of _both_ over Woods)--but just as a point of curiosity, he really did take it back a shade shut, didn't he?
...Weird, because earlier on, he would talk about trying _not_ to do that, which might indicate that at that time he thought it was a bit of a flaw, and he wanted to push back against it--but I read something from him recently about coaching somebody (his sons, maybe?...I forget) to hold it a bit shut on the way back. You almost get a shade of that counter-rotation that the Mike Austin guys and others talk about.
To clarify--I'm talking about the DTL view in the first swing here (re taking it back a shade shut), from his earlier years. I think he was in and out with it later on, and for sure he wanted to let the toe open on the way back during his '79-'80 changes (he said so himself). In Golf My Way, too, he talked about wanting to play open-to-closed rather than the other way around.
Check that squat out in the swing starting at 16 sec, just a ridiculous amount of torque and speed there. Looks like he's riding an invisible horse.
For alot of people who only saw jack in his 30's and 40's like me, it's very interesting to see footage of the young Nicklaus smashing the bejesus out of the ball. His action then was quite different to his action in the 70's and 80's.
Notice how the toes of his left foot pivot out towards the target after impact. And this is with metal spikes. Such a massive transfer of wieght and complete release of his hips. I only know of one golfer who pivots his left foot out like that nowadays.... Bubba Watson. They dont swing at all alike but their masssive release would break their hips if their foot action wasnt like that.
Like that top view...you can see the overall pivot really well. Counterfall and hip movement in downswing before he swings his arms across his chest...and a pelvic thrust. The clip following it is just ripper. Love those young Nicklaus clips. Power.
One observation: Jack always made an effort to keep the head still and eyes on the spot where the ball was until he'd reached full extension of the arms toward the target. Look at guys like Tiger and Ernie and you'll see the same, particularly when they're in good form. Jack always had "complete the backswing" as his most frequent go-to swing thought, but he also "finished" the swing going forward in this way (which you can't do without the lower body leading the way, incidentally--try it).
what was funny is that he drove the heck out of the ball . . mostly with his good ole wooden 3 wood . . . when others used drivers . . .nobody hit GIR numbers like jack . .still today no one is close . . .
Oh, yeah--hadn't you heard? Tiger's the best ever even though he hasn't won as many majors as Nicklaus (or as many tournaments overall as Snead). We should just give the trophy to him now because of his obvious awesomeness. After all, Hogan only had Snead, Nelson, etc., to beat, and Nicklaus only had Palmer, Player, Casper, Trevino, Miller, Floyd, Irwin, Watson, etc. Tiger's got Anthony Kim, for chrissakes.
I didn't think of it as you being a dick at all--just thought you might've had a point and I might've been wrong. It's happened. ;-)
Sorry for the long delay in replying. For reasons I can't figure out, sometimes I get email notices of replies to posts out here on YT, sometimes not. Same thing with Facebook. I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere, but I haven't found it.
Ooo, well...I think TW would have a chance... it's just that he wouldn't dominate like his fanboys need him to. He'd win a few, but it's possible he'd be more than a little rattled by guys who could hit him in the mouth right back, instead of shrinking into oblivion and just being happy to be there, like nearly all tour players today do nearly all the time. On the very few occasions when a guy has stood in the box and pounded him right back, you'll notice they've done pretty well.
jack had serious wing flawa--his left elbow flying, taking the club back too far and raising his left heel up on his toes. But he was so FREAKING strong and athletic with his massive leg strenght and drive through the ball--what power! And no body to this day--not even Woods--was as good at course mangement as teh Bear.
Take a look again--the standard line on Jack is that he had a "flying right elbow," but he got that rep during a time when a lot of old-line teachers were still telling people to swing with a sock under their right arm, keeping the elbow almost touching the side, etc., which made for a narrow and Vardonesque kind of action. You'll notice Jack's right forearm is at least parallel to his spine, sometimes even more vertical, which means that in structural terms it is _not_ "flying."
I know the cliche was that he had a "flying right (not left) elbow," but in fact that's mostly not true; he just had more width than people were used to seeing. Look at the first swing, for instance. For your right elbow to be "flying" in a swing-destroying way, the r. forearm has to be more horizontal to the ground than the spine is. Nicklaus did incline himself more over the ball than most, which gave him more spine tilt; later in his career, he consciously stood up to the ball more.
His swing is vastly underrated! The only thing I don't like personally is the stiff right knee (ouch)...and I think his pivot may have got worse as he got older. (not as much lean to his right in the backswing)
So funny you mention that about the knee--he always said that was something that would give him trouble and would tend to make him get out & over with a slightly higher right side (as it does just about everybody), so he'd always go back and work on it. You can bet that whatever a top player is super-aware of is something that tends to be a problem for him if he doesn't pay attention to it.
Also, he had bursitis in his hip around '67, I think it was, and he always said it affected the way his lower body worked until he got rid of it (the bursitis, not the lower body!). Tended to get a little too straight in the legs, etc.
honestly, if John Daly had stayed sober, he would of been the new Jack Nicklaus. Power and touch without equal. Say all you want about Tiger but he is the product of countless hours of practice, an early start(1 year old) and pursuits of records that Jack set without anyone to chase! Had Jack done all of that, who knows? 73 Top 10's in majors, 19 times finished 2nd in majors. And Jack did it without cussing and swearing! He did it with class. Maybe boring but still the bar for success.
at sixteen seconds, that's one of my favorite early shots of Nicklaus's swing. That seems to gnerate enormous power. Anyone have a guess how far a flush driver with today's top ball would go with that swing?
Jack won a long drive contest at the '63 PGA with a belt of 341 yds. In the same tournament, he drove the first tee shot of the final round over 350 yds. In "The Greatest Game Of All", he talks about reaching a 600 yd. par 5 with "two well-hit 3-woods". If you add even 10% due to ball and club advancements, 30 - 35 yds. are added automatically. There are other examples. He was an incredibly long hitter.
raw power on display there! I underestimated how much power Jack had. I'd love to play with older equipment, especially the woods. I think there would've been a really good feedback when you strike one sweet
You can still get it. It definitely makes a difference. And for the record, the guys out on tour today (who are supposed to be so much more awesome than Nicklaus, Hogan, et al.--hell, nobody knew how to play golf until Tiger came along and showed them how, right?) hit it about like previous generations when you give them the same equipment. It's been done.
Anyhow...you can get about the same feel of the old irons with good forgings today. Not woods, though (*clink*-*clank*).
My pleasure. This footage is particularly instructive. The angles and speed are perfect. In the first shot he is hitting 5 iron.
The young Jack Nicklaus makes it look so easy. I don't know how many times I've watched these clips and said "oh, now I get it." And then I try to achieve some of those dynamics and positions and can never quite manage it!!
How is it possible that millions of people watch American Idol and this vid only has 1757 views( and I own more than one of those views!) What's the world coming to at all?!
And I agree with emncalty that the coil is just spectacular- there is indeed oceans of difference between a coil and a turn.. I honestly feel like watching Jack move in this vid is like watching the uninhibited movements of a lion at speed. Just beautiful stuff. Thanks for posting
I'm not dissing any of the good players now--Tiger in particular is in the pantheon, of course--I'm just saying these guys knew what they were doing, just as much, and in many cases more so. I've got a photo of Jack in an obscure out-of-print biography (On & Off the Fairway: A Pictorial Autobiography, I think is the title) where he's about 19, at impact with a driver, that would lay to rest any "Tiger's way more powerful" or "Tiger's technically better" arguments.
...but what you _really_ see is that coil (as distinct from a mere turn) and then the fantastically strong, coordinated move from the ground up--like all good strikers in the modern mode...Hogan, Nicklaus, Faldo, Price, et al. Just _so_ solid...gives ya chills.
One more note on "upright": A fairly common point of reference at the top in a DTL view is how close the right (or trailing) forearm is to parallel with the spine. If the forearm is more horizontal than the spine, this can indicate an overupright swing and/or a tendency to get over the top. But in the first DTL view in this video, you can see the forearm at least parallel to the spine, and possibly even a bit more vertical, with the r. wrist set back on itself a bit--just about perfect.
It's really a shame and kind of odd that Nicklaus doesn't seem to get the kind of attention/devotion of Hogan or Snead. Same is true of Byron Nelson.
BTW, sorry for no reply to your comments at Hardy's forum. I'm taking the bar exam in a couple of weeks and am completely slammed. I did want to ask about some stuff re: golf swings.
Yeah, I agree...Nicklaus is sort of the invisible giant, probably because he really wasn't much of a swing theorist, and so doesn't fit in with the endless discussion of minutiae. But neither is Tiger--and neither was Snead. And even Hogan...well, Five Lessons is a shorter book than people think, and not really all that overwhelming detail-wise. I think you could go a long way with the proposition that no great player has ever been hypertechnical.
Holy...crap. I would've bet my house that there was no footage anywhere of Jack Nicklaus that I hadn't seen. I probably haven't seen a photo or film footage of him in 20 years that I hadn't already seen. And then you post this. Thanks, thanks, a thousand times thanks!
It really is stunning, the athleticism and power in the young Jack, and the refinement in the older one. And btw, he was never as upright as people thought--check the first swing here, for instance.
Absolutely right about never being as upright as Hardy, et al assert. I mean look at how far he bends over from the waist, if that's not in the 48 inch zone I don't know what is.
True. He did find himself having to stand up somewhat straighter when he made his '70-80 changes, as part of "deepening" his swing; he'd gotten so hung out over the ball that his balance was changing and making him swing the club too steeply.
As for the plane even in these early swings, viewers will note that his hands are over his right shoulder at the top on the DTL view, or at times even slightly behind it. What his swing was, more than "upright," was distinctly _wide_.
Sad. Greatest major championship player ever, and nobody's been here to comment in at least nine months.
That up-the-line view (as if he's hitting ball at you) is just incredible. You really see the power in the big turn of the back muscles and the unwinding from the ground up, while the club stays on that great inside path and the butt end of the club keeps moving through impact (which most players experience as the feeling of the left wrist staying flat and not breaking down).
emncaity 2 weeks ago
@emncaity
I should've said, great _footage_ of the greatest major championship player in history. You see this and you really think about the power of building your game around four or five simple ideas all your life, like he did (with Grout's assistance), instead of supercomplicating it like everybody does these days.
emncaity 2 weeks ago
Just an aside--I love the overall swing, really, and still think he proved himself to be the greatest tournament golfer ever, by virtue of longevity over Hogan and Jones and by virtue of more majors over Snead (and by virtue of _both_ over Woods)--but just as a point of curiosity, he really did take it back a shade shut, didn't he?
emncaity 9 months ago
@emncaity
...Weird, because earlier on, he would talk about trying _not_ to do that, which might indicate that at that time he thought it was a bit of a flaw, and he wanted to push back against it--but I read something from him recently about coaching somebody (his sons, maybe?...I forget) to hold it a bit shut on the way back. You almost get a shade of that counter-rotation that the Mike Austin guys and others talk about.
emncaity 9 months ago
@emncaity
To clarify--I'm talking about the DTL view in the first swing here (re taking it back a shade shut), from his earlier years. I think he was in and out with it later on, and for sure he wanted to let the toe open on the way back during his '79-'80 changes (he said so himself). In Golf My Way, too, he talked about wanting to play open-to-closed rather than the other way around.
emncaity 9 months ago
@duckhunt08
fact is that jacks green in regulations stat in 1968 on us tour was not beaten for the next 40 years
in 1980 also jack topped gir
fs1natra 9 months ago
@fs1natra
With forged blades. Usually with lower-lofted irons into the greens. And so forth.
emncaity 9 months ago
@duckhunt08
More like you embarrass yourself.
emncaity 11 months ago
Check that squat out in the swing starting at 16 sec, just a ridiculous amount of torque and speed there. Looks like he's riding an invisible horse.
For alot of people who only saw jack in his 30's and 40's like me, it's very interesting to see footage of the young Nicklaus smashing the bejesus out of the ball. His action then was quite different to his action in the 70's and 80's.
Thanks for posting
stevepising 11 months ago
he crunched it. they said he use to knock the screws out of those persimin woods.
pinboyjorf 1 year ago
I mean, seriously, how does a guy hit the ball badly from the solid, athletic position Jack is in at the top? Incredible.
emncaity 1 year ago
Notice how the toes of his left foot pivot out towards the target after impact. And this is with metal spikes. Such a massive transfer of wieght and complete release of his hips. I only know of one golfer who pivots his left foot out like that nowadays.... Bubba Watson. They dont swing at all alike but their masssive release would break their hips if their foot action wasnt like that.
marcusdolby1 1 year ago
@marcusdolby1
My swing is also have that left foot action.
I hit the 4 and 3 iron very solid way more solid than the static modern swing that not work for me.
I usually rushed from top with upper body and throws off lot of distance and accuracy.
But with this swing i be able to have more time during the downswing and clear the left foot first and from that point just let it rip!
Simply,this swing gives me a better tempo and more lag since i concentrate on the lower body.
brainysnaeha 1 year ago
It's not wrong to come back just to worship sometimes, is it?
emncaity 1 year ago
And on the sixth day god created Jack.
fullonred1 2 years ago
You said it, cowboy. There'll never be another.
emncaity 2 years ago
Like that top view...you can see the overall pivot really well. Counterfall and hip movement in downswing before he swings his arms across his chest...and a pelvic thrust. The clip following it is just ripper. Love those young Nicklaus clips. Power.
paulski5 2 years ago
One observation: Jack always made an effort to keep the head still and eyes on the spot where the ball was until he'd reached full extension of the arms toward the target. Look at guys like Tiger and Ernie and you'll see the same, particularly when they're in good form. Jack always had "complete the backswing" as his most frequent go-to swing thought, but he also "finished" the swing going forward in this way (which you can't do without the lower body leading the way, incidentally--try it).
emncaity 2 years ago
what was funny is that he drove the heck out of the ball . . mostly with his good ole wooden 3 wood . . . when others used drivers . . .nobody hit GIR numbers like jack . .still today no one is close . . .
cbrownstead 2 years ago
you know whats weird? hes the best ever and hes still underrated..lol
lhwood777 2 years ago
Oh, yeah--hadn't you heard? Tiger's the best ever even though he hasn't won as many majors as Nicklaus (or as many tournaments overall as Snead). We should just give the trophy to him now because of his obvious awesomeness. After all, Hogan only had Snead, Nelson, etc., to beat, and Nicklaus only had Palmer, Player, Casper, Trevino, Miller, Floyd, Irwin, Watson, etc. Tiger's got Anthony Kim, for chrissakes.
emncaity 2 years ago
@emncaity someones a lil flustered over something he cant control lol
yummpyummp 2 years ago
Yeah...and that person's name is Tiger Woods.
sretsam68 2 years ago
@yummpyummp
What is it that I can't control, exactly?
emncaity 11 months ago
@emncaity idk that was so long ago, sorry for being a dick man.
yummpyummp 11 months ago
@yummpyummp
I didn't think of it as you being a dick at all--just thought you might've had a point and I might've been wrong. It's happened. ;-)
Sorry for the long delay in replying. For reasons I can't figure out, sometimes I get email notices of replies to posts out here on YT, sometimes not. Same thing with Facebook. I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere, but I haven't found it.
emncaity 11 months ago
@emncaity And the true greats didn't have the gimmicky technology the pros use currently. Tiger would not have had a chance against those guys.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
@MrGrevy
Ooo, well...I think TW would have a chance... it's just that he wouldn't dominate like his fanboys need him to. He'd win a few, but it's possible he'd be more than a little rattled by guys who could hit him in the mouth right back, instead of shrinking into oblivion and just being happy to be there, like nearly all tour players today do nearly all the time. On the very few occasions when a guy has stood in the box and pounded him right back, you'll notice they've done pretty well.
emncaity 11 months ago
@emncaity
tiger also had to take on rw eaks.
just like the name rw eaks.sorry
fs1natra 9 months ago
@fs1natra
dang...I hadn't thought about that...
But then, Nicklaus had D.A. Weibring and T.C. Chen. I mean, as long as we're doing initials.
emncaity 9 months ago
I would hate to have that hold off on my swing...my back would be wrecked...Case in point his back is wrecked now
PUArtista 2 years ago
Man he developed power with his lower body!!!!!!!!! Nobody ever went after it like Jack!!!
PA28140 2 years ago 3
jack had serious wing flawa--his left elbow flying, taking the club back too far and raising his left heel up on his toes. But he was so FREAKING strong and athletic with his massive leg strenght and drive through the ball--what power! And no body to this day--not even Woods--was as good at course mangement as teh Bear.
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Bah typos -_-.
Nothing wrong with raising your left heel, there are many a pro golfer both on and off tour that do it.
Some people 'have' to in order to get a full turn, not everyone is flexible - specially when you get on up in age.
Trigunflame 2 years ago
Take a look again--the standard line on Jack is that he had a "flying right elbow," but he got that rep during a time when a lot of old-line teachers were still telling people to swing with a sock under their right arm, keeping the elbow almost touching the side, etc., which made for a narrow and Vardonesque kind of action. You'll notice Jack's right forearm is at least parallel to his spine, sometimes even more vertical, which means that in structural terms it is _not_ "flying."
emncaity 2 years ago
I know the cliche was that he had a "flying right (not left) elbow," but in fact that's mostly not true; he just had more width than people were used to seeing. Look at the first swing, for instance. For your right elbow to be "flying" in a swing-destroying way, the r. forearm has to be more horizontal to the ground than the spine is. Nicklaus did incline himself more over the ball than most, which gave him more spine tilt; later in his career, he consciously stood up to the ball more.
emncaity 2 years ago
His swing is vastly underrated! The only thing I don't like personally is the stiff right knee (ouch)...and I think his pivot may have got worse as he got older. (not as much lean to his right in the backswing)
paulski5 2 years ago
@paulski5
So funny you mention that about the knee--he always said that was something that would give him trouble and would tend to make him get out & over with a slightly higher right side (as it does just about everybody), so he'd always go back and work on it. You can bet that whatever a top player is super-aware of is something that tends to be a problem for him if he doesn't pay attention to it.
emncaity 11 months ago
@paulski5
Also, he had bursitis in his hip around '67, I think it was, and he always said it affected the way his lower body worked until he got rid of it (the bursitis, not the lower body!). Tended to get a little too straight in the legs, etc.
emncaity 11 months ago
It's hypnotic. I keep coming back here. Somebody help me.
emncaity 2 years ago
16 secs in is by far the best swing I've ever seen.
rakdrjr 2 years ago 27
Doesn't even take a trained eye to see the power eh. (not to say you aren't) I agree. Hell of a clip.
paulski5 2 years ago
honestly, if John Daly had stayed sober, he would of been the new Jack Nicklaus. Power and touch without equal. Say all you want about Tiger but he is the product of countless hours of practice, an early start(1 year old) and pursuits of records that Jack set without anyone to chase! Had Jack done all of that, who knows? 73 Top 10's in majors, 19 times finished 2nd in majors. And Jack did it without cussing and swearing! He did it with class. Maybe boring but still the bar for success.
bluekarma 2 years ago
at sixteen seconds, that's one of my favorite early shots of Nicklaus's swing. That seems to gnerate enormous power. Anyone have a guess how far a flush driver with today's top ball would go with that swing?
geemusic1 3 years ago
Flat ground, no wind, sea level, 350yd ?
bossofalltime 2 years ago
Easily...He did that quite a few times back in the early '60s.
sretsam68 2 years ago
Really ? Wow. 380 ?
bossofalltime 2 years ago
Jack won a long drive contest at the '63 PGA with a belt of 341 yds. In the same tournament, he drove the first tee shot of the final round over 350 yds. In "The Greatest Game Of All", he talks about reaching a 600 yd. par 5 with "two well-hit 3-woods". If you add even 10% due to ball and club advancements, 30 - 35 yds. are added automatically. There are other examples. He was an incredibly long hitter.
sretsam68 2 years ago
Thanks. Good info.
bossofalltime 2 years ago
Boss...check out this clip...the very first swing...gasp!
youtubeDOTcom/v/5ocMJecgW2w
paulski5 2 years ago
raw power on display there! I underestimated how much power Jack had. I'd love to play with older equipment, especially the woods. I think there would've been a really good feedback when you strike one sweet
bossofalltime 2 years ago
You can still get it. It definitely makes a difference. And for the record, the guys out on tour today (who are supposed to be so much more awesome than Nicklaus, Hogan, et al.--hell, nobody knew how to play golf until Tiger came along and showed them how, right?) hit it about like previous generations when you give them the same equipment. It's been done.
Anyhow...you can get about the same feel of the old irons with good forgings today. Not woods, though (*clink*-*clank*).
emncaity 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this beauty Duffygolfstuff!
I have more great stuff to show my students!
Shawn
clemshaw 3 years ago 3
My pleasure. This footage is particularly instructive. The angles and speed are perfect. In the first shot he is hitting 5 iron.
The young Jack Nicklaus makes it look so easy. I don't know how many times I've watched these clips and said "oh, now I get it." And then I try to achieve some of those dynamics and positions and can never quite manage it!!
duffygolfstuff 3 years ago
How is it possible that millions of people watch American Idol and this vid only has 1757 views( and I own more than one of those views!) What's the world coming to at all?!
And I agree with emncalty that the coil is just spectacular- there is indeed oceans of difference between a coil and a turn.. I honestly feel like watching Jack move in this vid is like watching the uninhibited movements of a lion at speed. Just beautiful stuff. Thanks for posting
BomGolf222 3 years ago
Boy, you said it. To hear people talk now, you'd think nobody'd ever been a great athlete before or knew how to swing a golf club.
emncaity 3 years ago
I'm not dissing any of the good players now--Tiger in particular is in the pantheon, of course--I'm just saying these guys knew what they were doing, just as much, and in many cases more so. I've got a photo of Jack in an obscure out-of-print biography (On & Off the Fairway: A Pictorial Autobiography, I think is the title) where he's about 19, at impact with a driver, that would lay to rest any "Tiger's way more powerful" or "Tiger's technically better" arguments.
emncaity 3 years ago
It's that same "American Idol" mentality that believes professional golf was invented 09/01/96.
sretsam68 3 years ago
I would love to have seen the shot he hit during the first swing in color here (roughly 16 seconds into this video). That was absolute power.
sretsam68 3 years ago
agree. That's an amazing, formidable swing.
geemusic1 3 years ago 12
...but what you _really_ see is that coil (as distinct from a mere turn) and then the fantastically strong, coordinated move from the ground up--like all good strikers in the modern mode...Hogan, Nicklaus, Faldo, Price, et al. Just _so_ solid...gives ya chills.
emncaity 3 years ago
One more note on "upright": A fairly common point of reference at the top in a DTL view is how close the right (or trailing) forearm is to parallel with the spine. If the forearm is more horizontal than the spine, this can indicate an overupright swing and/or a tendency to get over the top. But in the first DTL view in this video, you can see the forearm at least parallel to the spine, and possibly even a bit more vertical, with the r. wrist set back on itself a bit--just about perfect.
emncaity 3 years ago
It's really a shame and kind of odd that Nicklaus doesn't seem to get the kind of attention/devotion of Hogan or Snead. Same is true of Byron Nelson.
BTW, sorry for no reply to your comments at Hardy's forum. I'm taking the bar exam in a couple of weeks and am completely slammed. I did want to ask about some stuff re: golf swings.
Cheers.
duffygolfstuff 3 years ago
Cool, we'll do it after you pass the bar.
Yeah, I agree...Nicklaus is sort of the invisible giant, probably because he really wasn't much of a swing theorist, and so doesn't fit in with the endless discussion of minutiae. But neither is Tiger--and neither was Snead. And even Hogan...well, Five Lessons is a shorter book than people think, and not really all that overwhelming detail-wise. I think you could go a long way with the proposition that no great player has ever been hypertechnical.
emncaity 3 years ago
Holy...crap. I would've bet my house that there was no footage anywhere of Jack Nicklaus that I hadn't seen. I probably haven't seen a photo or film footage of him in 20 years that I hadn't already seen. And then you post this. Thanks, thanks, a thousand times thanks!
It really is stunning, the athleticism and power in the young Jack, and the refinement in the older one. And btw, he was never as upright as people thought--check the first swing here, for instance.
emncaity 3 years ago
Absolutely right about never being as upright as Hardy, et al assert. I mean look at how far he bends over from the waist, if that's not in the 48 inch zone I don't know what is.
duffygolfstuff 3 years ago
True. He did find himself having to stand up somewhat straighter when he made his '70-80 changes, as part of "deepening" his swing; he'd gotten so hung out over the ball that his balance was changing and making him swing the club too steeply.
As for the plane even in these early swings, viewers will note that his hands are over his right shoulder at the top on the DTL view, or at times even slightly behind it. What his swing was, more than "upright," was distinctly _wide_.
emncaity 3 years ago