@VyckRo what assumption do you suppose I've made? How does giving my opposition a forum to make his case (say, by filing suit) fit into 'never listening' to said opposition? Indeed, on a matter of law, such as legal process in the form of the DMCA, the only forum of relevance I have said I'll happily meet him in. Indeed, further, he'll have all the time in the universe to make his case as to how his use of the DMCA is appropriate.
@VyckRo no such "RE" shows up on my screen. I suppose a link to that was too much work.
I am aware that Craig knows the videos are on youtube and the user who posts them; it doesn't therefore follow that said user owns the copyright or is authorized to act as Craig's agent. However, it is a possibility, which is why I've told Dr. Craig that should said youtuber file legal process against me, he himself will be named a named party in my counterclaim in court.
@VyckRo act as a herd? I'm not sure what that means. Why do we (along with so many non-atheists) respond to people who violate US copyright law by working to make the illegal exploitation of perjured claims fail? I don't know. Why would anyone possibly be interested in that!
@VyckRo I fail to see how Thunderf00t's video counts as any group acting as a herd. There is no requirement whatever in copyright law that the original work has to be cited; moreover, even if there were, there's no reason to think that drcraigvideos is the copyright holder who is owed a citation. Even further than that, since the video is on youtube, it's subject to reuse; the sharing permissions on DCV's channel do not require attribution. He could have selected otherwise.
@VyckRo however, none of this has anything whatever to do with whether DCV is a legal agent who is authorized to file legal process on behalf of the videos. I suppose we'll see if he files a lawsuit in response to the counter-filings that are being filed. If he does, then we can litigate it to see what standing, if any, he has in fact and at law.
Craig ought to be taking the lead i n topping this idiot who is acting in his name. Why thunder foot doesn't just call him, I can't imagine (perhaps he has). If he doesn't that would confim a lot of the worst supicsions about Craig.
Any other academic, their phone number is on the web. Craig's isn't. Here is the phone number of his secretary, however, if anyone wants to advise him of the matter:
Quantum fluctuations is the reason for the universe...
Boring...Not you or any other weirdo(atheist) knows what that really means...
What a joke. Don't bother with your illogical claptrap. The best position for an atheist would be: "We don't know how the universe came about and we don't care"
@GuruTruthSpeak So what you mean is that you don't understand what a quantum fluctuation is. Unfortunately for you, you are not allowed to argue from ignorance. i'm a classicist, not a physics teacher, but I will tell you that you computer wouldn't work without the actions described by quantum mechanics. So you either have to accept them or hypothesize that a demon is reading what you type and simulating the responses you see on your screen. I guess you don't have a problem with that.
@GuruTruthSpeak Now that I look at my original post again that yoou're responding to, I see the it was about the difficulties involved in contacting WLC and reasons that ThF ought to do so. So how was your reply responsive to that?
@GuruTruthSpeak No, the best position for an atheist (as vague and generally void a term as that is in most contexts), would be thus: 'We don't know how the universe came about, but let's keep and open (but rigorously skeptical) mind about possible answers to this conundrum'. Slightly better than 'god dun it', no?
@mrblondeguy88 excellent question. The name in the DMCA take-down notice matches the publicly available name of the account holder for that channel - assuming that said account holder isn't just lying about his name that is.
He has a bit of a history of this such that I can tell, but I'm waiting to hear back from Craig and Reasonable Faith to see what they have to say.
We can point to confessions in his comments, from his username on the related videos - in the dprjones mirror and in the follow up video on ThunderF00t's channel.
I watched DrCraigsvideo's video response to Tf00t a few hours ago, and as much as i hate and loathe the guy (DrCraig) (he blocked me last year), he did seem to have a few salient points in that it appeared that what Tf00t was accusing DCV of wasn't entirely true. Tf00t's video did APPEAR to be edited to make it look as though William Lane Craig was being hypocritical . All that said, i hope DrCraigsVideo's gets his ass kicked, the guys a douche. .. just like his mentor WLC.
@bonnie43uk even assuming Tf00t is being deceptive in his use of video clips, this says nothing whatever about whether it's an infringement on anyone's copyright such that the DMCA is an appropriate legal remedy. It doesn't, and it isn't.
So, to the extent that there's an issue here I care about, nothing DCV has said is of any merit in that same sense.
The appropriate remedy if one thinks Tf00t is dishonest is to refute his errors and demonstrate they're knowingly false.
@integralmath Ok, you're exactly right, i dont disagree. Maybe i was just making the point that Tf00t "MAY" have manipulated his video slightly. It'll be interesting to see how this little youtube drama pans out. My monies on Thunderf00t!
Haha, i wonder if WLC is watching all this on his laptop through his fingers!
@bonnie43uk well, if tfoot really got the videos from drcraigvideos site as is said, you could go find the video in question, or as integral said, drcraig could point out the video himself to dispute the claim.
But while tfoot did edit the video, to say its misleading, I am pretty darn sure that craig really was hypocritical. That would be dubbing to say craig didnt really say what was on the video where he was quoting while in another video saying a person shouldnt quote.
@JRBendixen He could be taking this one of 2 ways.
He is either happy to get all of the attention and new views, or he is upset that his false DMCAs are backfiring and getting more exposure to tfoots video.
@zarkoff45 one can. There are no legalities to what he's doing; he's abusing the process, which is why these videos are always back up in 2 weeks time. It's just how the law is written.
Yes, please, someone take this idiot at drcraigvideos down. He is really annoying. He seems to think that nobody can use any of his work, just because he supposedly has a license for it.
Someone please get this guy into a lawsuit so the courts can teach him that the Fair Use clause actually exists.
look out, we're dealing with a badass over here, uploading videos to a site no one visits.
sWeepingsAnd 1 month ago in playlist More videos from integralmath
@sWeepingsAnd look out indeed! We're dealing with a real badass here who went to visit the website that no one goes to!
integralmath 1 month ago
Hmmm...
TheWisemonkey8 1 month ago
assumptions,and, ad-hominem, typical T.fool.fans.
Also something else, which is typical for atheists, never, never listen to the other side.
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo what assumption do you suppose I've made? How does giving my opposition a forum to make his case (say, by filing suit) fit into 'never listening' to said opposition? Indeed, on a matter of law, such as legal process in the form of the DMCA, the only forum of relevance I have said I'll happily meet him in. Indeed, further, he'll have all the time in the universe to make his case as to how his use of the DMCA is appropriate.
You're an idiot.
integralmath 1 month ago
@integralmath
go to the reasonablefaith (dot)org
left
AUDIO-VISUALS
Watch the movie
"This House Believes that God is not a Delusion"
and see on what youtube channel the reasonablefaith has it videos.
Then see the "RE: Thunderf00t DMCAed in William" from the right of your film.
then check T.fool blog, for updates!
and only after reply, whay youtube atheist act as a herd?
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo no such "RE" shows up on my screen. I suppose a link to that was too much work.
I am aware that Craig knows the videos are on youtube and the user who posts them; it doesn't therefore follow that said user owns the copyright or is authorized to act as Craig's agent. However, it is a possibility, which is why I've told Dr. Craig that should said youtuber file legal process against me, he himself will be named a named party in my counterclaim in court.
integralmath 1 month ago
@VyckRo act as a herd? I'm not sure what that means. Why do we (along with so many non-atheists) respond to people who violate US copyright law by working to make the illegal exploitation of perjured claims fail? I don't know. Why would anyone possibly be interested in that!
integralmath 1 month ago
@integralmath
"act as a herd?"
Yap, Toof has made an entire video from someone else materials.
he has not cited the original source, and he has suggested that the video materials belong to him.
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo I fail to see how Thunderf00t's video counts as any group acting as a herd. There is no requirement whatever in copyright law that the original work has to be cited; moreover, even if there were, there's no reason to think that drcraigvideos is the copyright holder who is owed a citation. Even further than that, since the video is on youtube, it's subject to reuse; the sharing permissions on DCV's channel do not require attribution. He could have selected otherwise.
integralmath 1 month ago
@VyckRo however, none of this has anything whatever to do with whether DCV is a legal agent who is authorized to file legal process on behalf of the videos. I suppose we'll see if he files a lawsuit in response to the counter-filings that are being filed. If he does, then we can litigate it to see what standing, if any, he has in fact and at law.
integralmath 1 month ago
Subbed! Booyha!
Christheatheist1 1 month ago
Craig ought to be taking the lead i n topping this idiot who is acting in his name. Why thunder foot doesn't just call him, I can't imagine (perhaps he has). If he doesn't that would confim a lot of the worst supicsions about Craig.
Any other academic, their phone number is on the web. Craig's isn't. Here is the phone number of his secretary, however, if anyone wants to advise him of the matter:
888.332.4652
HConstantine 1 month ago
@HConstantine
Quantum fluctuations is the reason for the universe...
Boring...Not you or any other weirdo(atheist) knows what that really means...
What a joke. Don't bother with your illogical claptrap. The best position for an atheist would be: "We don't know how the universe came about and we don't care"
GuruTruthSpeak 1 month ago
@GuruTruthSpeak So what you mean is that you don't understand what a quantum fluctuation is. Unfortunately for you, you are not allowed to argue from ignorance. i'm a classicist, not a physics teacher, but I will tell you that you computer wouldn't work without the actions described by quantum mechanics. So you either have to accept them or hypothesize that a demon is reading what you type and simulating the responses you see on your screen. I guess you don't have a problem with that.
HConstantine 1 month ago
@GuruTruthSpeak Now that I look at my original post again that yoou're responding to, I see the it was about the difficulties involved in contacting WLC and reasons that ThF ought to do so. So how was your reply responsive to that?
HConstantine 1 month ago
@GuruTruthSpeak No, the best position for an atheist (as vague and generally void a term as that is in most contexts), would be thus: 'We don't know how the universe came about, but let's keep and open (but rigorously skeptical) mind about possible answers to this conundrum'. Slightly better than 'god dun it', no?
BlankVellum 1 month ago
@GuruTruthSpeak Your ignorance is amusing.
nilbud 4 weeks ago
im sorry im not very with the whole youtube thing. But how do you know its drcraigvideos?
mrblondeguy88 1 month ago
@mrblondeguy88 excellent question. The name in the DMCA take-down notice matches the publicly available name of the account holder for that channel - assuming that said account holder isn't just lying about his name that is.
He has a bit of a history of this such that I can tell, but I'm waiting to hear back from Craig and Reasonable Faith to see what they have to say.
integralmath 1 month ago
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piprod01 1 month ago
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@mrblondeguy88
We can point to confessions in his comments, from his username on the related videos - in the dprjones mirror and in the follow up video on ThunderF00t's channel.
piprod01 1 month ago
You are a man of action. You are doing the reasonable thing to do at this moment.
I am a bit apprehensive about my latest video. What can I do to get it on your website?
dewinthemorning 1 month ago
@dewinthemorning I'll download and upload it right now. I'll e-mail you a link to it once it's created.
integralmath 1 month ago
Quite an awesome fellow.
AmsterdamHeavy 1 month ago
Bring it on Bitch' fuck i have no idea who u are but i just got a boner' nvm its was my thumb, ill share it with you.
pandorachild 1 month ago
I watched DrCraigsvideo's video response to Tf00t a few hours ago, and as much as i hate and loathe the guy (DrCraig) (he blocked me last year), he did seem to have a few salient points in that it appeared that what Tf00t was accusing DCV of wasn't entirely true. Tf00t's video did APPEAR to be edited to make it look as though William Lane Craig was being hypocritical . All that said, i hope DrCraigsVideo's gets his ass kicked, the guys a douche. .. just like his mentor WLC.
bonnie43uk 1 month ago
@bonnie43uk even assuming Tf00t is being deceptive in his use of video clips, this says nothing whatever about whether it's an infringement on anyone's copyright such that the DMCA is an appropriate legal remedy. It doesn't, and it isn't.
So, to the extent that there's an issue here I care about, nothing DCV has said is of any merit in that same sense.
The appropriate remedy if one thinks Tf00t is dishonest is to refute his errors and demonstrate they're knowingly false.
integralmath 1 month ago 5
@integralmath Ok, you're exactly right, i dont disagree. Maybe i was just making the point that Tf00t "MAY" have manipulated his video slightly. It'll be interesting to see how this little youtube drama pans out. My monies on Thunderf00t!
Haha, i wonder if WLC is watching all this on his laptop through his fingers!
bonnie43uk 1 month ago
@bonnie43uk well, if tfoot really got the videos from drcraigvideos site as is said, you could go find the video in question, or as integral said, drcraig could point out the video himself to dispute the claim.
But while tfoot did edit the video, to say its misleading, I am pretty darn sure that craig really was hypocritical. That would be dubbing to say craig didnt really say what was on the video where he was quoting while in another video saying a person shouldnt quote.
waltermh111 1 month ago
@bonnie43uk for people interested but not yet downloaded the original tfoot video, this is a youtube mirror of it to see how edited it is.
I dont see it edited enough to ruin a legitimate point of tfoot.
But I could be wrong if drcraigvideos wanted to make that kind of response with backed up video.
waltermh111 1 month ago
@waltermh111 youtube . com/watch?v=RRlYAipTwIM
forgot to post it :(
waltermh111 1 month ago
I just left a comment on one of his videos letting him know about this challenge.
Obviously, I got the reply "Comment Pending Approval!"
MrSelidor7 1 month ago
@MrSelidor7 shocking that he'd only allow in comments he likes! I am SHOCKED - shocked and appled [sic].
integralmath 1 month ago 3
I think you're safe.
theowarner 1 month ago
Short and to the point.
ercvstr 1 month ago
My guess is that DrCraigVideos will not do anything about it. But we will see if he is dumb enough.
JRBendixen 1 month ago
@JRBendixen He could be taking this one of 2 ways.
He is either happy to get all of the attention and new views, or he is upset that his false DMCAs are backfiring and getting more exposure to tfoots video.
waltermh111 1 month ago
What are the legalities? I thought that you could use video clips from other videos posted on youtube for the purposes of responding.
zarkoff45 1 month ago
@zarkoff45 one can. There are no legalities to what he's doing; he's abusing the process, which is why these videos are always back up in 2 weeks time. It's just how the law is written.
integralmath 1 month ago 2
Yes, please, someone take this idiot at drcraigvideos down. He is really annoying. He seems to think that nobody can use any of his work, just because he supposedly has a license for it.
Someone please get this guy into a lawsuit so the courts can teach him that the Fair Use clause actually exists.
Draginvry2 1 month ago
|You sir. Have my respect.
hawkwreak 1 month ago
This definitely put a smile on my face.
Unworshipediety 1 month ago