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  • I agree that bad teachers need to find another profession and unions shouldn't protect them. However, I know what some of these schools are like. You can have some of the most dynamic curriculum, passion for kids and your content and still have incredibly apathetic students and parents. I get so sick of teachers getting all the blame. When will parents and students take responsibility. Our entire system is failing. Let's not be so simplistic and only blame teachers.

  • Interesting.

  • Wow. This video is ridiculous. I doubt the assembly line of 2011 is being accurately portrayed. For sure, there aren't many unions with assembly line workers anymore.

    Teacher unions are led by leaders who are elected by their memberships. So this video actually attacks the very people that we should be engaging to accept new ideas and improve education systems. Not a very smart strategy IF improving education is the real goal. But .. maybe the only goal is just boring union bashing?

  • @IamAteacher100 your right, there are not so many assembly line unions anymore because they all but destroyed the american automotive plants which moved oversea's.

    Your not improving enducation when you strike and use the children as a barganing chip, your not using your unions to improve education when the literacy and graduation rate drop. Thanks for being another moron ruining our kids.

  • Dear @SlayerofFiction

    I'm not quite sure how you think you know anything about me, other than my quoted opinion above. I hope that whatever has made you so angry gets better. If we are going to improve your country, or mine, the assembly lines or education systems in either country, we're probably going to need to work together cooperatively instead of making personal attacks. I wish you all the best!

  • @IamAteacher100 what makes me angry are shitty teachers in a horrible system refusing to acknowledge the problems in order to correct them, instead you cling on to the very problem wich is Unions, which do not allow poor teachers to be removed, a must, which again, strike to use Children as a bargaining chip during surprise, time when children shoudl be being educated. And last, Unions are by definition marxist, so not something American at all. Good day.

  • @SlayerofFiction We definitely agree that horrible systems need to change! But, I am not a 'shitty teacher'. I'm also not a marxist or an American. I am a teacher & do support unions. In fact, I've worked to improve evaluation systems of teachers, improve teacher PD, and to counsel teachers in difficulty to leave the profession. I treat teachers as fairly as I think we should be treating students.

    Please be VERY careful about painting people with too wide a brush.

  • @SlayerofFiction

    ps I work in one of the very best education systems in the world and it happens to be highly unionized. The two are not mutually exclusive.

  • @IamAteacher100 lol canada? seriously? LMFAO, council teachers? here IM an employer this is how you handle a bad employee, you fucking fire them, right there, on the spot, and replace them with someone compitant.

  • @SlayerofFiction

    Thanks for giving me such a good chuckle. Your last message confirmed the reason it is so easy to our convince members that they need to stay unionized - some employers treat them so badly. If employers actually had due process, care and compassion, there'd be no need for unions.

    ps Lots of countries have access to you tube, a good education system, and strong unions. You should avoid jumping to conclusions. But Canadians can be happy you put them in the category.

  • @IamAteacher100 again, a union only preserves the job of a poor employee thus dragging down the company and other employee's around, with good employee's that translate into good work ethics, the company does better and the co workers do better, explain to me again why you want to keep a tumor?

    Canada Enjoys Prosperity only because of world communists systimatically dismantelling America and giving you trade opportunities that previously would not exist, seriously, and your a teacher?

  • @IamAteacher100 I am going to add that in your position, teaching the youth, is once more, far more important than keeping some deadbeat droll who is ruining the lives of children, congrats for confirming the message of the video.

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  • Thanks to Mr Olson for exposing the rot that is the Teacher's Unions

  • The very model of compulsory public education is the problem. Our system was copied after the Prussian model, which was created to make better soldiers and factory workers. John Taylor Gatto has written extensively on this matter and is well worth your time to investigate.

  • The NEA is a strong Marxist organization-- they could care less about the real issues that affect children. Their care ends when they can stamp out perfect little Socialist/Marxist models. The federal government mandates pretty much follow the theories promoted by the loons at the NEA.

    I cry for our children. They are learning very little that could help them in life. What to do-- enroll them in private or parochial schools.

  • To those who think we're picking on all unions - we are talking here specifically about the National Education Association (NEA) who have a great deal of control over our CHILDREN (what they're taught, when, where and why). Also, I was told (privately, by the "higher ups", and of course I can't prove it) that I would not be hired unless I joined the state and national teachers' unions, and that's wrong!

  • @PromoteTruth Thats how a union works, you have to join said union to work for it, you also only work based on the orer you sign onto said list and your seniority.

  • The hopeless dumbasses who believe this piece of brainwashing idiocy seem to want teachers(and everyone else except the WallStreet crooks) to be slaves to corporate kleptocrats. This film is pure anti labor, anti union rubbish.

  • @wankervon Yup IM Anti Union, have been Laborers and carpenters Union, as a matter of fact, every single male in my family has been union, they are worthless, self serving and little more than a festering sore, and I cannot believe any moron after seeing what unions have done for america, still fall for their bullshit.

  • Unions need to be abolished. Kids aren't cars. I teach part time but with my own children I HOMESCHOOL. There is NO WAY I'd ever entrust my childrens minds or their future to others.

    There's no one size fits all solution, however, disolving the Dept. Of Education at the federal level. Then Abolishing ALL teachers unions. Putting Education back into the hands of parents and local school boards will do a world of good IMHO.

  • @teachereagle I wish instead of wasting my time getting my (so-called) education degree, that I had spent that time homeschooling my children. I couldn't agree with you more that we need to dissolve the Dept. of Education, all teachers unions and put TRUE education back into the hands of parents and local school boards. The education system, education researchers, etc. treat our children as guinea pigs, and I quickly learned that today's education "theory" is tomorrow's trash.

  • OK- I find this video VERY interesting. I've been teaching for several years now in the deep south where there are no unions, collective bargaining, etc. And guess what?? We have the same exact problems... Do I think unions (especially in the northeast and rust belt) are troublesome? Yes, they can be, but that's a whole different issue. Down here, teachers are told what to teach and how to teach, etc. All the assembly line crap is coming from the federal government- blame them :)

  • @Mrd777 Keep in mind the federal department of education is one of the two departments started by the grand screw up of all time: Jimmy Carter.

  • @Mrd777

    good point.

  • @Mrd777 typical teacher, unable to accept responsilbity for your own failure. 

  • @Mrd777 Curious, what is it like in the South as an educator? Detroit is pushing - no exaggeration - 47% adult illiteracy and 24% High School graduation rates. Mrd, is it like this down where you are? State? City?

  • no kids are cattle..unions have nothing to do with this... there are no unions to speak of in the south and we have the worst education system in the world

  • Unions are LEECHES stealing the future of our children.

    Abolish Gov't unions!

    Abolish Tenure!

  • I've seen the clip of the woman yelling "Give us the bucks!" before. Where do these people - - or our government, for that matter - - get off thinking that we should just start emptying our pockets and bank accounts, shoveling barrels of money into a such a system, and yet we have no say-so in HOW it is spent? We don't even know where most of the money goes. It certainly doesn't go to benefit children. A good portion goes to thinks like political campaigns, which is wrong.

  • Amen Promote Truth. I'm with you 100% and I respect and appreciate John Taylor Gatto a GREAT deal. He also has a web site btw.

  • I have a B.S. in Education. I went into education because I was told it offered the chance to be "creative". Ha! Everything you do is scrutinized so that you, and in turn the children, are forced into behaving and doing everything that "those in power" (ultimately the NEA) want you to do! Read John Taylor Gatto's writings to see what our school system is REALLY about! I decided to choose a truly creative profession - Art - over teaching. Now I can THINK and CREATE in a real way.

  • @PromoteTruth - I do believe this is the first time I ever saw a statement like this from an education major.

  • @miazagora If this is the first time you've seen a statement from an education major (who received her B.S. in Education, passed the NTE and was certified in my state for seven years) it's not surprising. My experience is that teachers are educated in "theories" which are then tested out on school children and discarded (after the damage is done) to be replaced by more "theories". Teachers are also educated in "group think" and turn around to educate children in "group think".

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