now our boxing womens team took revenge on what thailand did to them last 2007. mens team will go for thailand boxers no question about that, but for women it sholud be for philippines. last 2007 thailand won 5 of its 6 entries, last year on laos they won 1 against 4 entries against the phil. womens team. and to this, it shouldn't happen where they hosted last 2007.
FYI 1.Anybody can research online. Incidents how Filipino organizers/officials took advantage of opponents with "all of a sudden schedule changes" 2. Why didn't Filipino officials penalize Filipino officials/organizers for their unfair acts.DUH cause it's their own people. 3. Your a hypocrite dude, You try to preach on something, but yet your the one that critisized & made ignorant accusations towards Indonesia, Thai, & Lao in the very beggining
HA! LOL now that the more and more u write, it shows me that your just a hypocrite. U stress so much about proof, but yet your the one in the very beginning that made ACCUSATION statements towards other ASEAN countries of cheating so much such as Indonesia & Thailand but u have no proof. HAHA LOL Yet your trying to PREACH to me on something that Ive been pointing out to you with the cheating when Philippines hosted Sea Games. Im sorry Dude, you have no say now.
Dude, ur the one that came on to me in the very begginning. I was responding to someone else, a Filipino guy who was accusing and slandering the country of Laos for cheating. I replied to HIM not YOU stating "whatever man, you guys cheated so much too in 05 when Philippines hosted it." Get your facts straight dude.
There u go again with ur official & non official approach. Again ur not going to convince me that there was no cheating in 05 from the hosts. Again Roy Jones was cheated, but officially he's still a silver medalist and people said he was cheated, but ur view is," just accusations so he wasn't cheated" Poor you. If there were questonable outcomes and it's not officially acted on, then it PROVES TO YOU NO CHEATING. I don't think so, especially with the history of the SEA Games.
haha wow calm down dude. why am I trying to fool u dude. U make no snse. I have nothing to hide. I'm pretty sure if u did so much research on scandals in 05Sea Games, then u can research. LOL BUSTED. why would i have a reason to lie about it. And what about ur statement that u accused me of calling u an IDIOT. WHenWhere. Now ur being a hypocrite. Justifying irresponsible comments is really a headache for u now..haha what a hypocrite u are.
Haha dude ur the one that's acting like a child now. However u interpet things is totally on you. So yeah if u want to call me this or that,or imagine I called u an idiot than answer the question so I can prove to u my point. When was the last time the Philippines ever came in 1st besides home turf. Well want's u answer my question, I can explain to you my point. Again think however u want think or interpret however u wish, but truly try to understand something instead of playing dumb.
dude maybe you can't read. Ur stating that I said Philippines ALWAYS PLACED 6place. You placed 6th in the 07 & I believe 5th in the 09 SEA games. learn to read dude. ALWAYS PLACED 6th place. Yeah right and when did I ever call u an IDIOT. When was it that u guys ever came in 1st place
In regards to the Phillipine Sea Games or any other Sea games, ur still not going to convince me that there wereno cheating in 05 although there were no other official reports that judges/officials got penalized. Tell me why didn't they penalize the unfair acts of ur Filipino officials. research it. Again, I witnessed the 05 Sea games and I wouldn't be bringing this issue up for nothing if I honestly didn't think that there weren't any cheating.
Yeah I know about the Philippines Pathetic protest in boxing in 2007. How pathetic. Your people did the same shit in ur own country back in 05 by trying to start a riot with the Thai boxing squad. Your country's people have bad sportsmanship and if they lose, then the only thing that come out of their mouth is"we were cheated." Ur boxers didn't want to lose face by fighting the men's because they knew they would lose. It truly shows how much of an ego ur people have especially with boxing.PRIDE
HAHA Where did u get that I said Phillipines ALWAYS PLACED 6TH. (ALWAYS PLACE 6TH IN EVERY SINGLE SEA GAMES.) Dude get out of here again with ur trying to twist the story around. Where did u ever get that I called you an Idiot? Again I don't praise cheaters, I praise the Thai officials for bringing up the cheating when Philipines hosted Sea Games. Your not worthy to talk to, when u purposly bring up false information and try to twist meanings around.
Again do u truly believe that your country absolouty won every single match fairly with the much criticisms it had. Lots of controversy matches were not put on the table dude. Do you really think that your Filipino officials are going to penalize ur own Filipino officials for unfair play such as the incidents with the last minute schedule changing. The Sea Games were organized by ur Filipino officials when u hosted it. If it were someone else, It would not be hard to imagine that is cheating.
Tell me, do u think not only last minute schedule changes/ and (equipment) Filipino officials had done is unfair. Not just once, but numerous times which highly favored the host. HMMM Cheating or Not. U argue that they weren't penalized. Of course, because they are the host and do u really think there going to admit cheating. If u know so much about the 05 Sea Games, what did the guy from Thailand do to protest in the Takwando match. dude I watched those Sea Games & it was terrible.
Answer me this, do you think just because an athlete is a winner, but the match or result was filled with criticisms or controversy, then they are truly the winner. YES OR NO. Example Roy Jones. He is officially a silver medalist although there were MUCH ACCUSATIONS THAT HE WAS CHEATED. Again I'm not being biased or talking from emotions. This was is 05 and there were so many ridicoulous & unfair outcomes that favored Philippines. There were also many protests that are not in records.
I may have said something earlier that u are now taking the meaning a different way. What I meant, was well with all the cheating Philippines were doing, then So What if Thai referees were accused, there were ridiculous calls that Thai was getting. I wouldnt be bringing this issue up for nothing. I am somone who is interested in sports and it was obvious that there was much unfair play during the 2005 Sea Games. Too bad there are no videos to go back on and discuss this matter.
Taksin and referee. I totally praise when Taksin & Thai officials brought up the issue regarding Philippines cheating when hosting the Sea games. However let me make it clear. I DO NOT PRAISE CHEATING.
It's quite funny how u like to twist meanings around and recently bring up false infomation such as me calling u an IDIOT. NOW UR LYING, careful thats worse than saying BULLSHIT & IDIOT. In addition, the fact that U DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE FULL DETAILS OF THE TAKRAW INCIDENT. Ha, u still have yet to answer my questions. Another is how u try to use something unmeaningful in your defense of how I responded regarding Taksin & Thai referees. I know u purposely play ignorant so let me be more clear
Any country would agree regarding cheating if the same incident happened to them regarding Filipino officials blatantly changing schedules last minute numerous times in which their opponents didn't even have time to warm up is unfair/cheating. The sad thing is, Filipino officials can get away because u know why, because they were the host in which meant they controlled & organized the events. HAHA Do you truly think that ur own people are going to punish their own people. COME ON MAN, GET REAL!
I've already pointed out to u that the 2005 Sea Games in the Philippines was filled with much criticisms meaning lots of questionable outcomes which highly favored the PI. U even know the fact that Thai officials mentioned about Philippines cheating. HA I can honestly agree to that because it was very obvious. I'm sorry that your way of thinking is, "well there are no official reports of Philippines cheating & Thai apologized" so that means there were none. Poor you for being so NARROW MINDED!
You make me laugh. You don't say words such as IDIOT. So why do u try and accuse me of ever saying it. Show or point out where I ever called u an IDIOT. HAHA So now ur desperatly trying so hard. Just like u lie with Filipino officials didn't cheat by changing schedules to favor their own. Nice try though, your meanings still mean nothing to me even with the fact of u bringing trying to bring up false words.
HAHA bringing up false information. It states it clearly that Filipino officials changed schedules many times in which their opponents were at a disadvantage. If that's not considered cheating for you, than it's evident u accept cheating. I praised our Thai officials for accusing your country for cheating so why is it so wrong to praise them. And for the many ridicolous cheats Thailand got specifically in boxing and Takwando when matching a filipino, then good because Thai was cheated too.
Again, your officials let the cheating slide by and also took advantage of other opponents numerous time in many different occasions.You have no argument because, "if your own country cheats, than u have no say about anything towards another."
HaHa, I said bullshit because you thought that Phillipines didn't cheat when they hosted SEA Games.Wow, why is it that u are so offended about that. I never called u a idiot though. Good try for trying to lie & accuse me of stuff. When & where did I ever call you a idiot. Again it just shows yourself is not a reasonable person by bringin up false info. Is it really so bad that u can't even spell out the words IDIOT or BULLSHIT. HAHA! Very Weird.
Still you can't talk if your officials not only cheated, but they ALSO GOT BY WITH IT. Your self is sad, that u think that ur country never cheated. I already brought up specific matches dude such as the boxing and Takwando in 05. U can argue all u want, but your Sea Games was ridicoulus.
I've already told you how your people cheated. And the BAD thing is, they got away with it. It's sad that things get away like the incidents your Phillipine officials/ organizers get away with cheating in 2005. Any educated person would agree, that changing the schedule last minute numerous times without even allowing the opponent to warm up is unfair/cheating. The jurisdiction of the SEA Games was in the hands 's of Phillipine officials, that's why so much cheating was allowed to get by.
So what is ur point that "exerted too much effort and money for 2009 hosting."What kind of accusations are u trying to bring up now. U are sad dude, if I'm getting the message ur trying to bring out. Why do u assume that Laos & Thai have such close ties. FYI lots of Lao & Thai hate each other. Just cause Thai & OTHER ASEAN countries assisted, doesn't mean they cheated. Thai also assisted with Haiti, exerted one of the biggest contributions from ASEAN for their country too.Ur message mean nothing
damn dude u need to know how to read correctly. Why would I want to try to "destroy u on testing ur knowledge about Tekraw as u mentioned." All I said, what did u know specifcally about the incident as u tried to accuse Thai cheating against Malay. Ur good at twisting things around aren't u? Nice try dude, but this just shows that u no nothing before u speak. HAHAHA! Look what another commenter said. I highly advise u that u should take KaoNeowLao's advice.
it's not that I hate or discredit the SEA games, I think you like to misinterpret my meanings on purpose by trying to twist things around and use it against me. they should just do away with them because it's always controversies. It doesn't bring unity and friendship like it's intended to do, but more of a BIG RIVALRY and HATE between two countries such as the Phillipines and Thailand in boxing. Or Malay & Thailand in Takraw. I honestly think ur people have a ego/pride issue regarding boxing.
For much of the cheating and ridicoulous wins your country was doing and getting away with, then of course I'm going to say I don't care that Thai officials were accused of cheating. U can deny all u want, but if I'm saying it and several of Thai officials mentioned it, then I'm sorry that's its hard for u to understand that there could have even been the POSSIBILITY of unfair results rather than ur official & non official cheating approach.
Wow this again just shows me how much u know regarding your statements before u write. Come on man, I thought u would have known about this since ur country is so in to the boxing.Not with the boxing judges, but with the takraw too. Dude i guess perhaps u might not know the rules with amateur boxing as it is not allowed for a judge to judge their own country. Know the facts before writeing baseless statements.
Haha I'm sorry that u are biased about regarding the Phillipines never cheated. Let me give u an example. After this try to explain to me ur point. Roy Jones is still OFFICIALLY a silver medalist due to the official results ALTHOUGH there were many ACCUSATIONS that he was robbed. This is you in your point of view in which ur statements are very lacking. It is evident that he was robbed, but his is high profile unlike sea games. I'm sorry, but nothing nothing to agree on there.
On another subject regarding boxing. Phillipines likes to accuse Thailand cheated them in boxing even when ur country hosted it. How did they cheat when the boxing matches were hosted in ur own country. Instead it showed how much of sore loser by starting a riot over Sea Games. It was evident who were winning cause some Pinoy boxers had bloody nose and being clearly beaten. As I mentioned before, the sea games are nothing. What matters more is the Olympic level or even Asian Games. No cheating.
Ur accusation that Thai cheated Malaysia by changing the ball just proves to me that u don't know full details before writeing baseless comments. No where close one can compare this incident with the "last minute" schedule changes Phillipines did to favor their own players. I'm waiting for ur reply regarding what u know about the International official tekraw ball use. Tell me what all u know about this incident as u make ur accusations. Also what ball did Malay use in the Asian tournement.
I've also already explained to you about the reason why Thailand appologized for officials accusing the Phillipines of cheating. Again I'm not sure if u will understand the true reason or ur purposely being ignorant about it. Many Thai people were disgusted & upset with the Sea Games in the Phillipines in 05. After Thai officials accused PI for cheating, ur country started to protest at the Thai embassy &in order to keep good relations & move on, an official made an apology.
You may not have known that since there were not official incidents reported for u to read during the games, that it doesn't mean athletes could have been cheated. However, there were many CRITICISMS in the 05 Sea Games as I've mentioned before; meaning many questionable outcomes. I can DEFINATLY relate back to watching & witnessing those outcomes. I'm sorry if u think that "well it wasn't official, so they weren't cheated."
I'm sorry that it's hard for u to understand things that PHILLIPINE OFFCIALS cheated. With the SEA Games hosted in PI meaning they have jurisdiction over the games. Do u think ur own people are going to call their own people out for their unfair actions. Any educated person would agree that changing schedules last minute while the opponent hasn't even had time to warm up is unfair or"CHEATING". Not just once, but several times.Sorry,u can argue all u want regarding official or not official.
The boxing bouts were in ur home country too, so u can't accuse Thai for cheating. What about in 07 with the shameful walkout. The real reason is that the Phillipine boxers and people have this sore loser ego and they were afraid they would lose against their rival Thai opponents who were all qualified olympic fighers. So Instead of losing face, they did a cheap move by saying they were cheated. How pitiful. Even ur own country men post a video regarding the shameful walkout by the Phillipines.
If u know so much about the Takraw incident then tell me the specific details of everything besides what the internet says. Do research on the Asian Sepak Takra Federation on the official ball use. Talk about sore loser. Look what happened when ur people started throwing coins. The Thai boxer was clearly winning, but the Pinoy fighter quit? Do u know why else besides what internet says. It was because he had a big ego so he quit because he was dizzy. Therefore he quit and said he was cheated.
Who is gonna saction their own people when it's hosted by their own people. Your own people running the show by changing the schedules last minute. There was also so many other questionable matches back in 05 dude. Just because a Thai person made an apology which u assume counts for the words of all the Thai people in Thailand, then u must think a lil bit harder. This was 5 yrs ago when I watched it & so many ridicoulus wins from Phillipines. It did need to be brought up about the cheating.
Yeah, but u deny that the Phillipines cheated. I'm sorry u can't accept the fact. I even pointed out the specifc case to u. Of couse ur country and u gonna deny it because the games was hosted in ur country. Phillipine officials changed matches many times so that their opponents will be at a disadvantage. If that's not cheating, then it truly shows who the sore loser is and biased person who is overcomed by emtotions. HAHA!Sorry for u dude, but u can't speak on something when u do it youself.
Continued.Reports specifically stated that Phillipines had many CRITICISMS of cheating while hosting. Although ur specific matches may not have been listed, it does not prove the fact that Phillipines didn't cheat. I've already brought up several controversial ridiculous matches. Not to mention the fact. Filipino OFFICIALS had switched several gold medal matches by sudden rescheduling so their opponent will be at a disadvantage & that their own countrymen will have a better chance to win gold.
Reply late. Funny. Unlike you, I have more important things to do instead of debate with u that Phillipines did'nt cheat in 05. Deny all u want because u still have not prove to me that your country did not cheat when they hosted Sea Games 05.
Lastly (3) If u truly know the common Thai attitude "NEVERMIND or forget about it" then u will understand why officials made an apology rather than creating a diplomatic conflict between the 2 countries over some SEA Games. It seems to me that your are the one who has been overcome by emotions/feelings. I am sure u agree with me on this if u were to observe the level of care/interest between the sports fans concerning these SEA Games especially in boxing.
Continued- And for ur other questions on Thaksin and Thai referees. - I wouldn't blame them for their actions because of the horrible and disgusting officiating Vietnam & especially Thailand received throughout the entire Phillipine Games. i actually praise them. I watched it everyday when I was in Hua Hin,Thailand with my family and just disgusted with the officiating. It was unbelievable at times. It ALWAYS favored ur country so they can get 1st place.
For your question on Filipino organizers or Judges/referres for cheating. (1) Filipino officials had changed schedules numerous times so that Filipino athletes could be more at an advantage than their opponents(Internet Fact). I told u once about the Thai boxer Tun Dusamak and now that we speak, I recall back when i was watching in 06 both Men & Women'sTakwando matches who were robbed. Just because past occurences are not on the internet for u to read, doesn't mean that they were not cheated.
yeah Thailand won the fight when they threw trash at the Thai fighter who was winning,but how can u cheat when u almost get knoked out. what about when they cheated the other Thai fighter Kaew & Tun Dansamak. I watched those matches back in 05, but the Thai just accepted defeat even though he was defeated. I remember it was quite strange how your people was winning so easily in many sports that year. Some countries way of handling is forgive/forget rather than taking it by heart like you do.
U have a right to base your opinion just as I do. Your cowardly statment in the begginning stated that Thailand cheated the most in history. It's not that I boasted Thai has won Olympic medals as u like to mention. I was trying to point out to u, who u seem to be very difficult to comprhend things that if Thai usually always in the top 3 in SEA Games and also won many Olympic medals, than it must at least count for something. U always mention thai is a cheater, but what about your country.
Don't tell me that you highly believe that your country didn't cheat by just reading the facts on your research off the internet. U say that Thailand was the worst ever. And don't tell me you use Wikipedia. anybody can go in and edit and change the facts around in order to credit or discredit another country. Let me tell you because it seems like your about to cry by writing me back 3 times per day over some lil Sea Games. Your country did cheat a lot in 05 just to get 1st place.
Don't tell me you that your country is so innocent from cheating. Your country cheated alot and we were hurt very much. Although we were hurt so much by your cheating, however Thai people don't do ugly things such as throwing ice and walking out like your people do. Although Thailand was very upset about the cheating in ur country, Thai people are not disrespectful and act ugly like your country. Thailand apologized mainly so there wouldn't be future problems between the 2 countries.
Yeah I remember you guys cheated us too in Taekwando both in men's and women's in 05. Not Thai complained about your cheating Sea Games in 05, but Vietnam, & Indonesia also. So if your country cheat so much just to get first place, then yeah other people gonna think it's unfair. You shouldn't get so excited about these Sea Games because they are nothing. If you want to debate on which country's better than who. History should tell u with wich country has been achieving Olympic gold medals.
Exactly, History should have proven to you at least something of which country cheats Not just Thailand complained they were being cheated when Phillipines hosted, but also Vietnam. U said nobody questioned it LOL. Your sore loser people got mad and started throwing ice at the Thai fighters. Yes Phillipines was the orverall champion that year because I remember you guys cheated us in two obvious particular matches. One was with the Women's, and 2 with Men's. Not only cheat in boxing,but Takwdo.
you came on to me first dude by saying my country is the most cheater country in history. Talk about ignorant, your the one to make such a stupid ignorant comment to me first. I never began talking with you in the first place. I was replying to digitalktics who thinks his country Phillipines doesn't cheat either. I was trying to point out to him that their country cheated Thailand so much too when Phillipines hosted it. You guys cheated us so much in Boxing that year.
whatever dude.. your useless to talk to. Remember your the one that came on to me insulting my country first and your right it's not a question of who wins more golds in SEA. It's about the country who cheated so much when the Phillipines hosted the SEA Games. You think your country are always honest and have integrity,(BULLSHIT) Phillipines cheated do much just to get 1st place. Again how can you come from all the way to be first place when in all the other years your country always place 6th.
Haha overly defensive my ass. I just state the facts. Thailand has always beat you guys in amateur boxing in any other SEA games country. Do your research. Even when you guys were cheating us when you hosted it. I agree Sea Games should be aboolished for sore losers. These sea games are a joke everybody should just stick with the Olympics. Thai has been winning Olympic Golds not only in Boxing, but many other sports too. So that has to prove to you something. How many has Phillipines won? 0
No I have to disagree with you on that. When u talk about theSEA Games history, Phillipines cheated the most back in 05. A country which had never even topped the top 3 in history all of a suddenly became first. I remember even you guys cheated us in boxing so when the Thai boxer almost knocked the Pinoy guy out, he quit and said that his punches weren't scoring. Wow what lame excuse. It seems that you guys have this pride issue and can't accept defeat.
StickyRiceLao! They are just sore losers. A lot of the Lao boxer punches were scoring, but his points also weren't scoring. Nevermind these people. When Phillipines hosted, we felt the same way too, but we didn't complain and insult their country like they do to us.
What do u expect? they are the host country i bet the next time they going to host another sea games, they gonna be the over all champion hahaha... CHEATER
To digitaldics: are u serious, look who's talking. You guys cheated so much in 2005 when Phillipines hosted and the only reason Phillipines came in 1st was because you hosted the games and cheated so much. Look at history, when was it ever Phillipines come close to either 1st or2nd place. Only when your country hosted in 05 and cheated so much just to be in 1st place. What sore loser and cheater yourself is.
we don't cheat, but if the punches weren't scoring, how is it that we are the cheaters?? if you're complaining that your punches didn't score, just remember ours didn't either. if we were cheaters do you honestly think that all the other countries will be getting any medals.. think before you speak (or post) besides it's our first time for hosting such an event.. mistakes happen and if granted a chance again in the future i'm sure my country will do better.. and i don't mean cheating..
the commentators suck, they are bias..
laotianbarbie 6 months ago
whats this lao guys name? any more fights from this guy?
laotianbarbie 6 months ago
many of the flip dudes punches was blocked thats why he lost and yea he did get dazed, out of all the lao boxers i seen this guys pretty good.
laotianbarbie 6 months ago
The Lao Dude Won,he had more Head Shots....And Flipino Guy Was Dazed
LanXangLaoSThaBrave 8 months ago
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LanXangLaoSThaBrave 8 months ago
they dont score body shots?
questguy 1 year ago
the ref was counting on lao dude, but there was no score for fil dude... hahaha
aswangknights02 1 year ago
the filipino dude totally won
visitnajr 1 year ago
now our boxing womens team took revenge on what thailand did to them last 2007. mens team will go for thailand boxers no question about that, but for women it sholud be for philippines. last 2007 thailand won 5 of its 6 entries, last year on laos they won 1 against 4 entries against the phil. womens team. and to this, it shouldn't happen where they hosted last 2007.
aswangknights02 1 year ago
FYI 1.Anybody can research online. Incidents how Filipino organizers/officials took advantage of opponents with "all of a sudden schedule changes" 2. Why didn't Filipino officials penalize Filipino officials/organizers for their unfair acts.DUH cause it's their own people. 3. Your a hypocrite dude, You try to preach on something, but yet your the one that critisized & made ignorant accusations towards Indonesia, Thai, & Lao in the very beggining
thai32usa 2 years ago
HA! LOL now that the more and more u write, it shows me that your just a hypocrite. U stress so much about proof, but yet your the one in the very beginning that made ACCUSATION statements towards other ASEAN countries of cheating so much such as Indonesia & Thailand but u have no proof. HAHA LOL Yet your trying to PREACH to me on something that Ive been pointing out to you with the cheating when Philippines hosted Sea Games. Im sorry Dude, you have no say now.
thai32usa 2 years ago
For ur infomation, In the very begginning I stated when was the last time Philippines ever was in 1st place. It's there for u to read, GO AND LOOK!
thai32usa 2 years ago
Dude, ur the one that came on to me in the very begginning. I was responding to someone else, a Filipino guy who was accusing and slandering the country of Laos for cheating. I replied to HIM not YOU stating "whatever man, you guys cheated so much too in 05 when Philippines hosted it." Get your facts straight dude.
thai32usa 2 years ago
There u go again with ur official & non official approach. Again ur not going to convince me that there was no cheating in 05 from the hosts. Again Roy Jones was cheated, but officially he's still a silver medalist and people said he was cheated, but ur view is," just accusations so he wasn't cheated" Poor you. If there were questonable outcomes and it's not officially acted on, then it PROVES TO YOU NO CHEATING. I don't think so, especially with the history of the SEA Games.
thai32usa 2 years ago
haha wow calm down dude. why am I trying to fool u dude. U make no snse. I have nothing to hide. I'm pretty sure if u did so much research on scandals in 05Sea Games, then u can research. LOL BUSTED. why would i have a reason to lie about it. And what about ur statement that u accused me of calling u an IDIOT. WHenWhere. Now ur being a hypocrite. Justifying irresponsible comments is really a headache for u now..haha what a hypocrite u are.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Haha dude ur the one that's acting like a child now. However u interpet things is totally on you. So yeah if u want to call me this or that,or imagine I called u an idiot than answer the question so I can prove to u my point. When was the last time the Philippines ever came in 1st besides home turf. Well want's u answer my question, I can explain to you my point. Again think however u want think or interpret however u wish, but truly try to understand something instead of playing dumb.
thai32usa 2 years ago
dude maybe you can't read. Ur stating that I said Philippines ALWAYS PLACED 6place. You placed 6th in the 07 & I believe 5th in the 09 SEA games. learn to read dude. ALWAYS PLACED 6th place. Yeah right and when did I ever call u an IDIOT. When was it that u guys ever came in 1st place
thai32usa 2 years ago
In regards to the Phillipine Sea Games or any other Sea games, ur still not going to convince me that there wereno cheating in 05 although there were no other official reports that judges/officials got penalized. Tell me why didn't they penalize the unfair acts of ur Filipino officials. research it. Again, I witnessed the 05 Sea games and I wouldn't be bringing this issue up for nothing if I honestly didn't think that there weren't any cheating.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Yeah I know about the Philippines Pathetic protest in boxing in 2007. How pathetic. Your people did the same shit in ur own country back in 05 by trying to start a riot with the Thai boxing squad. Your country's people have bad sportsmanship and if they lose, then the only thing that come out of their mouth is"we were cheated." Ur boxers didn't want to lose face by fighting the men's because they knew they would lose. It truly shows how much of an ego ur people have especially with boxing.PRIDE
thai32usa 2 years ago
HAHA Where did u get that I said Phillipines ALWAYS PLACED 6TH. (ALWAYS PLACE 6TH IN EVERY SINGLE SEA GAMES.) Dude get out of here again with ur trying to twist the story around. Where did u ever get that I called you an Idiot? Again I don't praise cheaters, I praise the Thai officials for bringing up the cheating when Philipines hosted Sea Games. Your not worthy to talk to, when u purposly bring up false information and try to twist meanings around.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Again do u truly believe that your country absolouty won every single match fairly with the much criticisms it had. Lots of controversy matches were not put on the table dude. Do you really think that your Filipino officials are going to penalize ur own Filipino officials for unfair play such as the incidents with the last minute schedule changing. The Sea Games were organized by ur Filipino officials when u hosted it. If it were someone else, It would not be hard to imagine that is cheating.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Tell me, do u think not only last minute schedule changes/ and (equipment) Filipino officials had done is unfair. Not just once, but numerous times which highly favored the host. HMMM Cheating or Not. U argue that they weren't penalized. Of course, because they are the host and do u really think there going to admit cheating. If u know so much about the 05 Sea Games, what did the guy from Thailand do to protest in the Takwando match. dude I watched those Sea Games & it was terrible.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Answer me this, do you think just because an athlete is a winner, but the match or result was filled with criticisms or controversy, then they are truly the winner. YES OR NO. Example Roy Jones. He is officially a silver medalist although there were MUCH ACCUSATIONS THAT HE WAS CHEATED. Again I'm not being biased or talking from emotions. This was is 05 and there were so many ridicoulous & unfair outcomes that favored Philippines. There were also many protests that are not in records.
thai32usa 2 years ago
I may have said something earlier that u are now taking the meaning a different way. What I meant, was well with all the cheating Philippines were doing, then So What if Thai referees were accused, there were ridiculous calls that Thai was getting. I wouldnt be bringing this issue up for nothing. I am somone who is interested in sports and it was obvious that there was much unfair play during the 2005 Sea Games. Too bad there are no videos to go back on and discuss this matter.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Taksin and referee. I totally praise when Taksin & Thai officials brought up the issue regarding Philippines cheating when hosting the Sea games. However let me make it clear. I DO NOT PRAISE CHEATING.
thai32usa 2 years ago
It's quite funny how u like to twist meanings around and recently bring up false infomation such as me calling u an IDIOT. NOW UR LYING, careful thats worse than saying BULLSHIT & IDIOT. In addition, the fact that U DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE FULL DETAILS OF THE TAKRAW INCIDENT. Ha, u still have yet to answer my questions. Another is how u try to use something unmeaningful in your defense of how I responded regarding Taksin & Thai referees. I know u purposely play ignorant so let me be more clear
thai32usa 2 years ago
Any country would agree regarding cheating if the same incident happened to them regarding Filipino officials blatantly changing schedules last minute numerous times in which their opponents didn't even have time to warm up is unfair/cheating. The sad thing is, Filipino officials can get away because u know why, because they were the host in which meant they controlled & organized the events. HAHA Do you truly think that ur own people are going to punish their own people. COME ON MAN, GET REAL!
thai32usa 2 years ago
I've already pointed out to u that the 2005 Sea Games in the Philippines was filled with much criticisms meaning lots of questionable outcomes which highly favored the PI. U even know the fact that Thai officials mentioned about Philippines cheating. HA I can honestly agree to that because it was very obvious. I'm sorry that your way of thinking is, "well there are no official reports of Philippines cheating & Thai apologized" so that means there were none. Poor you for being so NARROW MINDED!
thai32usa 2 years ago
You make me laugh. You don't say words such as IDIOT. So why do u try and accuse me of ever saying it. Show or point out where I ever called u an IDIOT. HAHA So now ur desperatly trying so hard. Just like u lie with Filipino officials didn't cheat by changing schedules to favor their own. Nice try though, your meanings still mean nothing to me even with the fact of u bringing trying to bring up false words.
thai32usa 2 years ago
HAHA bringing up false information. It states it clearly that Filipino officials changed schedules many times in which their opponents were at a disadvantage. If that's not considered cheating for you, than it's evident u accept cheating. I praised our Thai officials for accusing your country for cheating so why is it so wrong to praise them. And for the many ridicolous cheats Thailand got specifically in boxing and Takwando when matching a filipino, then good because Thai was cheated too.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Again, your officials let the cheating slide by and also took advantage of other opponents numerous time in many different occasions.You have no argument because, "if your own country cheats, than u have no say about anything towards another."
thai32usa 2 years ago
HaHa, I said bullshit because you thought that Phillipines didn't cheat when they hosted SEA Games.Wow, why is it that u are so offended about that. I never called u a idiot though. Good try for trying to lie & accuse me of stuff. When & where did I ever call you a idiot. Again it just shows yourself is not a reasonable person by bringin up false info. Is it really so bad that u can't even spell out the words IDIOT or BULLSHIT. HAHA! Very Weird.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Still you can't talk if your officials not only cheated, but they ALSO GOT BY WITH IT. Your self is sad, that u think that ur country never cheated. I already brought up specific matches dude such as the boxing and Takwando in 05. U can argue all u want, but your Sea Games was ridicoulus.
thai32usa 2 years ago
I've already told you how your people cheated. And the BAD thing is, they got away with it. It's sad that things get away like the incidents your Phillipine officials/ organizers get away with cheating in 2005. Any educated person would agree, that changing the schedule last minute numerous times without even allowing the opponent to warm up is unfair/cheating. The jurisdiction of the SEA Games was in the hands 's of Phillipine officials, that's why so much cheating was allowed to get by.
thai32usa 2 years ago
So what is ur point that "exerted too much effort and money for 2009 hosting."What kind of accusations are u trying to bring up now. U are sad dude, if I'm getting the message ur trying to bring out. Why do u assume that Laos & Thai have such close ties. FYI lots of Lao & Thai hate each other. Just cause Thai & OTHER ASEAN countries assisted, doesn't mean they cheated. Thai also assisted with Haiti, exerted one of the biggest contributions from ASEAN for their country too.Ur message mean nothing
thai32usa 2 years ago
damn dude u need to know how to read correctly. Why would I want to try to "destroy u on testing ur knowledge about Tekraw as u mentioned." All I said, what did u know specifcally about the incident as u tried to accuse Thai cheating against Malay. Ur good at twisting things around aren't u? Nice try dude, but this just shows that u no nothing before u speak. HAHAHA! Look what another commenter said. I highly advise u that u should take KaoNeowLao's advice.
thai32usa 2 years ago
it's not that I hate or discredit the SEA games, I think you like to misinterpret my meanings on purpose by trying to twist things around and use it against me. they should just do away with them because it's always controversies. It doesn't bring unity and friendship like it's intended to do, but more of a BIG RIVALRY and HATE between two countries such as the Phillipines and Thailand in boxing. Or Malay & Thailand in Takraw. I honestly think ur people have a ego/pride issue regarding boxing.
thai32usa 2 years ago
For much of the cheating and ridicoulous wins your country was doing and getting away with, then of course I'm going to say I don't care that Thai officials were accused of cheating. U can deny all u want, but if I'm saying it and several of Thai officials mentioned it, then I'm sorry that's its hard for u to understand that there could have even been the POSSIBILITY of unfair results rather than ur official & non official cheating approach.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Wow this again just shows me how much u know regarding your statements before u write. Come on man, I thought u would have known about this since ur country is so in to the boxing.Not with the boxing judges, but with the takraw too. Dude i guess perhaps u might not know the rules with amateur boxing as it is not allowed for a judge to judge their own country. Know the facts before writeing baseless statements.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Haha I'm sorry that u are biased about regarding the Phillipines never cheated. Let me give u an example. After this try to explain to me ur point. Roy Jones is still OFFICIALLY a silver medalist due to the official results ALTHOUGH there were many ACCUSATIONS that he was robbed. This is you in your point of view in which ur statements are very lacking. It is evident that he was robbed, but his is high profile unlike sea games. I'm sorry, but nothing nothing to agree on there.
thai32usa 2 years ago
On another subject regarding boxing. Phillipines likes to accuse Thailand cheated them in boxing even when ur country hosted it. How did they cheat when the boxing matches were hosted in ur own country. Instead it showed how much of sore loser by starting a riot over Sea Games. It was evident who were winning cause some Pinoy boxers had bloody nose and being clearly beaten. As I mentioned before, the sea games are nothing. What matters more is the Olympic level or even Asian Games. No cheating.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Ur accusation that Thai cheated Malaysia by changing the ball just proves to me that u don't know full details before writeing baseless comments. No where close one can compare this incident with the "last minute" schedule changes Phillipines did to favor their own players. I'm waiting for ur reply regarding what u know about the International official tekraw ball use. Tell me what all u know about this incident as u make ur accusations. Also what ball did Malay use in the Asian tournement.
thai32usa 2 years ago
I've also already explained to you about the reason why Thailand appologized for officials accusing the Phillipines of cheating. Again I'm not sure if u will understand the true reason or ur purposely being ignorant about it. Many Thai people were disgusted & upset with the Sea Games in the Phillipines in 05. After Thai officials accused PI for cheating, ur country started to protest at the Thai embassy &in order to keep good relations & move on, an official made an apology.
thai32usa 2 years ago
You may not have known that since there were not official incidents reported for u to read during the games, that it doesn't mean athletes could have been cheated. However, there were many CRITICISMS in the 05 Sea Games as I've mentioned before; meaning many questionable outcomes. I can DEFINATLY relate back to watching & witnessing those outcomes. I'm sorry if u think that "well it wasn't official, so they weren't cheated."
thai32usa 2 years ago
I'm sorry that it's hard for u to understand things that PHILLIPINE OFFCIALS cheated. With the SEA Games hosted in PI meaning they have jurisdiction over the games. Do u think ur own people are going to call their own people out for their unfair actions. Any educated person would agree that changing schedules last minute while the opponent hasn't even had time to warm up is unfair or"CHEATING". Not just once, but several times.Sorry,u can argue all u want regarding official or not official.
thai32usa 2 years ago
The boxing bouts were in ur home country too, so u can't accuse Thai for cheating. What about in 07 with the shameful walkout. The real reason is that the Phillipine boxers and people have this sore loser ego and they were afraid they would lose against their rival Thai opponents who were all qualified olympic fighers. So Instead of losing face, they did a cheap move by saying they were cheated. How pitiful. Even ur own country men post a video regarding the shameful walkout by the Phillipines.
thai32usa 2 years ago
If u know so much about the Takraw incident then tell me the specific details of everything besides what the internet says. Do research on the Asian Sepak Takra Federation on the official ball use. Talk about sore loser. Look what happened when ur people started throwing coins. The Thai boxer was clearly winning, but the Pinoy fighter quit? Do u know why else besides what internet says. It was because he had a big ego so he quit because he was dizzy. Therefore he quit and said he was cheated.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Who is gonna saction their own people when it's hosted by their own people. Your own people running the show by changing the schedules last minute. There was also so many other questionable matches back in 05 dude. Just because a Thai person made an apology which u assume counts for the words of all the Thai people in Thailand, then u must think a lil bit harder. This was 5 yrs ago when I watched it & so many ridicoulus wins from Phillipines. It did need to be brought up about the cheating.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Yeah, but u deny that the Phillipines cheated. I'm sorry u can't accept the fact. I even pointed out the specifc case to u. Of couse ur country and u gonna deny it because the games was hosted in ur country. Phillipine officials changed matches many times so that their opponents will be at a disadvantage. If that's not cheating, then it truly shows who the sore loser is and biased person who is overcomed by emtotions. HAHA!Sorry for u dude, but u can't speak on something when u do it youself.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Continued.Reports specifically stated that Phillipines had many CRITICISMS of cheating while hosting. Although ur specific matches may not have been listed, it does not prove the fact that Phillipines didn't cheat. I've already brought up several controversial ridiculous matches. Not to mention the fact. Filipino OFFICIALS had switched several gold medal matches by sudden rescheduling so their opponent will be at a disadvantage & that their own countrymen will have a better chance to win gold.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Reply late. Funny. Unlike you, I have more important things to do instead of debate with u that Phillipines did'nt cheat in 05. Deny all u want because u still have not prove to me that your country did not cheat when they hosted Sea Games 05.
thai32usa 2 years ago
lets not argue, the SEA games also show realations between our countrys.
12Addison 2 years ago
Lastly (3) If u truly know the common Thai attitude "NEVERMIND or forget about it" then u will understand why officials made an apology rather than creating a diplomatic conflict between the 2 countries over some SEA Games. It seems to me that your are the one who has been overcome by emotions/feelings. I am sure u agree with me on this if u were to observe the level of care/interest between the sports fans concerning these SEA Games especially in boxing.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Continued- And for ur other questions on Thaksin and Thai referees. - I wouldn't blame them for their actions because of the horrible and disgusting officiating Vietnam & especially Thailand received throughout the entire Phillipine Games. i actually praise them. I watched it everyday when I was in Hua Hin,Thailand with my family and just disgusted with the officiating. It was unbelievable at times. It ALWAYS favored ur country so they can get 1st place.
thai32usa 2 years ago
For your question on Filipino organizers or Judges/referres for cheating. (1) Filipino officials had changed schedules numerous times so that Filipino athletes could be more at an advantage than their opponents(Internet Fact). I told u once about the Thai boxer Tun Dusamak and now that we speak, I recall back when i was watching in 06 both Men & Women'sTakwando matches who were robbed. Just because past occurences are not on the internet for u to read, doesn't mean that they were not cheated.
thai32usa 2 years ago
yeah Thailand won the fight when they threw trash at the Thai fighter who was winning,but how can u cheat when u almost get knoked out. what about when they cheated the other Thai fighter Kaew & Tun Dansamak. I watched those matches back in 05, but the Thai just accepted defeat even though he was defeated. I remember it was quite strange how your people was winning so easily in many sports that year. Some countries way of handling is forgive/forget rather than taking it by heart like you do.
thai32usa 2 years ago
U have a right to base your opinion just as I do. Your cowardly statment in the begginning stated that Thailand cheated the most in history. It's not that I boasted Thai has won Olympic medals as u like to mention. I was trying to point out to u, who u seem to be very difficult to comprhend things that if Thai usually always in the top 3 in SEA Games and also won many Olympic medals, than it must at least count for something. U always mention thai is a cheater, but what about your country.
thai32usa 2 years ago
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Don't tell me that you highly believe that your country didn't cheat by just reading the facts on your research off the internet. U say that Thailand was the worst ever. And don't tell me you use Wikipedia. anybody can go in and edit and change the facts around in order to credit or discredit another country. Let me tell you because it seems like your about to cry by writing me back 3 times per day over some lil Sea Games. Your country did cheat a lot in 05 just to get 1st place.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Don't tell me you that your country is so innocent from cheating. Your country cheated alot and we were hurt very much. Although we were hurt so much by your cheating, however Thai people don't do ugly things such as throwing ice and walking out like your people do. Although Thailand was very upset about the cheating in ur country, Thai people are not disrespectful and act ugly like your country. Thailand apologized mainly so there wouldn't be future problems between the 2 countries.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Yeah I remember you guys cheated us too in Taekwando both in men's and women's in 05. Not Thai complained about your cheating Sea Games in 05, but Vietnam, & Indonesia also. So if your country cheat so much just to get first place, then yeah other people gonna think it's unfair. You shouldn't get so excited about these Sea Games because they are nothing. If you want to debate on which country's better than who. History should tell u with wich country has been achieving Olympic gold medals.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Exactly, History should have proven to you at least something of which country cheats Not just Thailand complained they were being cheated when Phillipines hosted, but also Vietnam. U said nobody questioned it LOL. Your sore loser people got mad and started throwing ice at the Thai fighters. Yes Phillipines was the orverall champion that year because I remember you guys cheated us in two obvious particular matches. One was with the Women's, and 2 with Men's. Not only cheat in boxing,but Takwdo.
thai32usa 2 years ago
you came on to me first dude by saying my country is the most cheater country in history. Talk about ignorant, your the one to make such a stupid ignorant comment to me first. I never began talking with you in the first place. I was replying to digitalktics who thinks his country Phillipines doesn't cheat either. I was trying to point out to him that their country cheated Thailand so much too when Phillipines hosted it. You guys cheated us so much in Boxing that year.
thai32usa 2 years ago
whatever dude.. your useless to talk to. Remember your the one that came on to me insulting my country first and your right it's not a question of who wins more golds in SEA. It's about the country who cheated so much when the Phillipines hosted the SEA Games. You think your country are always honest and have integrity,(BULLSHIT) Phillipines cheated do much just to get 1st place. Again how can you come from all the way to be first place when in all the other years your country always place 6th.
thai32usa 2 years ago
Haha overly defensive my ass. I just state the facts. Thailand has always beat you guys in amateur boxing in any other SEA games country. Do your research. Even when you guys were cheating us when you hosted it. I agree Sea Games should be aboolished for sore losers. These sea games are a joke everybody should just stick with the Olympics. Thai has been winning Olympic Golds not only in Boxing, but many other sports too. So that has to prove to you something. How many has Phillipines won? 0
thai32usa 2 years ago
No I have to disagree with you on that. When u talk about theSEA Games history, Phillipines cheated the most back in 05. A country which had never even topped the top 3 in history all of a suddenly became first. I remember even you guys cheated us in boxing so when the Thai boxer almost knocked the Pinoy guy out, he quit and said that his punches weren't scoring. Wow what lame excuse. It seems that you guys have this pride issue and can't accept defeat.
thai32usa 2 years ago
the flip flop fight sloppy as hell he didn't land shiit you need to bring paquiel lol
bukjone500 2 years ago
Yo ! Lao land alots of punch too but the points wasn't come up
KaoNeowLAO 2 years ago
StickyRiceLao! They are just sore losers. A lot of the Lao boxer punches were scoring, but his points also weren't scoring. Nevermind these people. When Phillipines hosted, we felt the same way too, but we didn't complain and insult their country like they do to us.
thai32usa 2 years ago
What do u expect? they are the host country i bet the next time they going to host another sea games, they gonna be the over all champion hahaha... CHEATER
digitaldics 2 years ago
To digitaldics: are u serious, look who's talking. You guys cheated so much in 2005 when Phillipines hosted and the only reason Phillipines came in 1st was because you hosted the games and cheated so much. Look at history, when was it ever Phillipines come close to either 1st or2nd place. Only when your country hosted in 05 and cheated so much just to be in 1st place. What sore loser and cheater yourself is.
thai32usa 2 years ago
we don't cheat, but if the punches weren't scoring, how is it that we are the cheaters?? if you're complaining that your punches didn't score, just remember ours didn't either. if we were cheaters do you honestly think that all the other countries will be getting any medals.. think before you speak (or post) besides it's our first time for hosting such an event.. mistakes happen and if granted a chance again in the future i'm sure my country will do better.. and i don't mean cheating..
KaoNeowLAO 2 years ago
punches by the Philippines didn't count. Laos punches which did not land at all had points! Grabe!!!
palkerin9 2 years ago
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ned347 2 years ago
@ned347 in my language we call you flip flop wore on my feet
bukjone500 2 years ago
Without the head gear that Laosian would have been knock out in the first round
homer30 2 years ago
Thank you very much, you can upload all the video of Vietnam?
Thanks again!
hoangvinhchau1 2 years ago
i don't like one of the commentator,the way he talk about another country.
avknj1964 2 years ago
lutong laos.. boooo.... we are robbed...
tahomaster 2 years ago