Saiga 12K semi-automatic shotgun

[koxiesarmy]

Why the hate for watermelons?

[2BCBattlefield]

In Soviet Russia zombies are fucked

[Biogem369]

@2BCBattlefield In Soviet Russia sometimes zombies come from countries ruled by an evil uncle with a top hat and striped pants.))

[beastmodecod]

eat that shit!

fuckin melons...

[csl84030]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm......Watermelon Smoothies  my favorite

[questionauthoritah]

That will teach those watermelons not to fuck with you.

[OldboySaint]

I would expect that Spetnaz looking mother fucker to actually lean into the recoil instead of standing still like a board.

[Arctic10mm]

@OldboySaint he's prolly some 30yr old who likes to dress up and doesnt have any technique.

[luckydog9]

@OldboySaint seriously! his upper half almost went horizontal

[MajKong101]

I farted and shit came out.

[STKhero]

you over emphasized the recoil....

[asphere8]

PWN3D!

[homedog205]

poor watermelons they never saw it coming :(

[ssDaNss]

Saiga is more better in across the room close quarters combat... USAS is better for keeping them behind cover and raining hell on them... it's more of a psychological shotgun.

[NWA90s]

i see people comparing usas and saiga, saiga is actually better in everyway, but hey i like the usas more its a classic, and if im not wrong i think it was the first full auto, and yes jack hammer was cancelled

[rakan959]

that guy's aim is amazing, and that thing looks like it packs quite a punch with a nice rof to boot

[monkeyman1140]

No surprise, judging from the camo he's Spetznaz

[TealcLOL]

Saiga is 2nd to USAS

[dbmccart]

The hell it is, apparently you've never shot a USAS-12. It's twice the weight of the Saiga 12. Can only cycle 2 3/4 shells, and a Full Auto Saiga 12 still shots 2-3x faster then a USAS-12 in Full Auto. Before you even come back and try to dispute me you need to get your shit straight and do some research. Go fire a damn USAS-12. The USAS-12 is if anything comparable to the AA-12 but has greater recoil and is heavier.

[Siconyte]

@TealcLOL

I beg to differ, the USAS, although awesome, is over complicated, and delicate, whereas the Saiga is durable and almost soldier proof, plus you can use the stock to crack a skull in an emergency, whereas the USAS will shatter like a crystalized spring dropped from a height of 10 feet.

[a55kika18]

This guy is a good shooter.Awesome control

[thatwascool13]

god what a BEAST of a shotgun..if i had to get ANYKIND of shotgun, this would be it right here. :)

[christlubas]

The AA12 is the best

The SAIGA 12 is 2nd

The Street Sweeper is 3rd IMHO

[paulyski]

christlubas, you got it wrong...

Sagia 12 has the AA-12 beat.

First off, you as a civilian could never buy an AA-12.

Secondly, the AA-12 is twice the size of an S-12 & has about 10 times the parts to break.

Not to mention, it costs 10 times as much as an S-12.

The S-12 also has a higher rate of fire (even in semi auto)

The only thing better about the AA-12 is it has much less recoil if your female.

BTW, the Vepr-12, by the molot factory should get placed over the striker-12 (streetsweeper)

[christlubas]

Well you were wrong at one part............

the Philippines if you know it well lets just say i know people here who can get me legal F/A

BTW i think i should stick with the "Street Sweeper" that's full auto, saw it cheap

[paulyski]

The "Streetsweeper" or Striker-12 (12-gauge) has a fixed drum that only holds 12 rounds (so you need to manually reload) & it's not full auto, nor can it be converted to full auto.

The Saiga has changeable drums that hold 20 rounds.

I know the night editor of Manilla's largest newspaper, & he prefers (& owns) the Saiga 12.(he can also with press-pass carry right now while you're under martial law) ;)

It can be bought for less than $600 & there's more after market availability.

[christlubas]

you know that some are full auto like mine.........

also there are no martial laws in our country, just a gun ban

BTW this gun has been modified,not sure on reliability.............

[paulyski]

Well whatever you choose, just make sure you know how to use it & it's reliable.

Between panicking looters during natural disasters, to Islamic terrorist armies, You need to be prepared in your neck of the woods.

The Saiga-12 can be made full auto easily by drilling a hole & switching the fire control group.

You can change mags quickly too, so you can hold a position with it, alone.

Not to mention, it can be repaired with many AK parts.

& By martial law I refer to the weapons ban/confiscations.

[xxballsonweelsxx]

the aa 12 and the m1014 are better

[nightmare221]

i love mine its a blast you can shoot cheap birdshot threw it and slugs. better get one before obama bans it :(

[korn6499]

ownage

[GunOwnerDan]

Full auto or semi auto, there's really not much difference when you are using 12 guage shotgun shells.

[tr50n3]

kids this is an ak47 based 12 gauge shot gun

[eagerbeaver53]

i wonder if the us military will use or is using the AA12 cause if they do and i join i hope i get one instead of a m4 cause u can cover a lot with 30 rounds of buckshot

[nathanh25]

as long as everything you plan on shooting at is less than 25 yards from you.

[phildaguy]

One day. I'm going buy one.

[smokeyakadayday]

the accuraccy for this gun is amazing!especially becuase its a shotgun!

[vzwatyr]

@smokeyakadayday not to mention a semi auto shotgun recoil on it must be tough

[Noobpatty]

Hah! Listen to the sound coming out of that monster!

[TheAK47Militia]

Sweet,gotta love the Saiga 12..When you gotta get up close and personal

[painsey]

fuck it im gonna go to police station tomorrow and look into these guns

[Subjugator1866]

its not a full auto or sbr so you wont need to deal with the police station.....

[manicdemise]

yes the saiga is full auto

[chevlumina]

mine isnt. neither are any of the ones Ive come across at gun shows. but they can be converted to full auto...

[bldi7]

Hi guys,

have you seen MAXROUNDS movie?

[OutdoorsBlackMan]

I'll take the Winchester 1300.

I am pretty sure the Counter Strike crowd is quite excited for the Saiga.

[hunterhydie]

i like his outfit

[the1of0]

Would rather have a pump...

[SamTay04]

I like pump shotguns as well, but as long as it functioned well with some of the higher capacity magazines(which mine does) I'd rather have the Saiga.

[the1of0]

I respect your choice, but the pump action can fire as fast as a semi-auto and is more reliable. Loading a gun directly is faster and and less cumbersome than dealing with a separate magazine. You can have another magazine on hand, but that costs extra and is just more mass to lug around. The magazine that is attached to the gun adds bulk to the gun itself.

A box-magazine fed shotgun with less than 10 shots isn't worth it in my opinion. With a pump there's no real need for semi-auto.

[masterpxz2]

True, but you'd have to be pretty fast to shoot a pump as fast as a semi-auto.

[the1of0]

Absolute speed would be slower but if you are actually trying to hit what you are shooting at, then it doesn't make any difference because the gun will buck up after each shot and you can pump the gun while you are lining up for you next shot. You can pump a Remington 870 pretty quickly...unless you are disabled or something...

[masterpxz2]

Haha yeah, I've always thought pump shotguns were alot cooler too.

[spacedooky42]

uhh... no. For starters, the action is based off of an AK, which uses a gas-piston system. This reduces the felt recoil, so the Saiga will have less recoil compared to, say, a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870. Secondly, it is NOT faster to reload a gun shell by shell. And firing semiauto will be much faster than pumping it manually, unless you're not trying to hit anything. As for adding mass and cost, that much is true. But the mass is quite insignificant, and the magazine might only weigh 0.5lbs.

[the1of0]

Reloading a detachable magazine

detach>load bullets one by one> reatach magazine> cock>shoot

Reloading a fixed magazine

Put bullets in one by one> cock> shoot. That's two steps eliminated.

Recoil is not an issue if you are used to shooting shotguns...

at 15 yds it takes me like 3 seconds to shot 4 cantaloupes that are spaced 3 yds apart with a pump action without trying to rush. A semi-auto takes about the same amount of time with maybe a couple tenths of a second difference.

[spacedooky42]

Obviously a normal person would load the detachable magazine prior to firing. If you're talking about reloading while you're sitting down at home or something, that's a different story.

[the1of0]

"Obviously a normal person would load the detachable magazine prior to firing."

When all the ammo is spent, then you have to reload the gun with fresh ammo if you wish to continue firing the weapon. Did you know that?

"If you're talking about reloading while you're sitting down at home or something, that's a different story. "

Are you seriously confused about the type of "reloading" I am talking about?

[spacedooky42]

In this case I mean reloading in the sense of retrieving your old shells and loading them with new lead shot.

Even still. loading in the field with brand new shells shouldn't be much of an issue - you'd typically have more than one magazine.

[the1of0]

"But the mass is quite insignificant, and the magazine might only weigh 0.5lbs. "

It has nothing to due with the WEIGHT, but how much BIGGER that BOX magazine makes the Saiga compared to a shotgun with a TUBULAR magazine with a comparable number of rounds. A tube mag shotgun can be store with a magazine attached and some ammo inside without sacrificing the ability to fit the gun in tight spaces.

A long mag poking down can also make a gun more vulnerable to getting caught up on something.

[the1of0]

...and shooting in the prone position is also is also hampered buy the box magazine.

If you like Saigas, fine. I personally would prefer a a pump action and if a semi is on my shopping list than one with a tube mag is going to be on the list before I get a Saiga.

[spacedooky42]

you know, they make low profile box magazines (granted, they only hold 5 rounds)

[rebel4evr114]

what type of shell is that shooting?

[Samusan]

12 gauge, probably slug.

[PRSpl4yer]

Slug by the kick. Double aught doesnt kick that much in a Siaga 12.

[Atlasfield]

Ta chidilla el arma XD

[redwhiteandNudge]

man i want one

[Jcow25898]

im bored =( l

[NeedAFreshClip]

bad ass

[starshock01]

your a horrible spammer

[gusplaer]

so wut yur really trying to say is yur jealous and want a saiga?

[pork4allah]

I've got a Saiga 410, 20, 12 and 223. The 410 is rocknroll with 3 inch shells. Don't shoot 2 1/2" as they jam. The 410 shoots a 10 round clip as fast as you can pull the trigger. Kool! The 2.23/5.56 is a mean little motor scooter. It's major fun to shoot too. I haven't shot the 12 or 20 gauges as they are collectors. As far as the price I recommend the Saiga's. However I am not pleased with the scope mount on the 2.23/5.56; it absolute shit. I took it off and use the iron sights.

[FNHFiveSeven57]

You should try 12 gauge, it's best for me (in my opinion)

[JetJockey87]

This guys going 'fruit and veg boy' on those melons. im sure they get just as mad as postal workers.

[KursadAltug]

karpuzlara yazık a.q nimetle şaka olurmu hiç

[vue084783]

before i saw the automatic shotgun on youtube, i always wanted people to make a gun like that and it finally came true

[spraynpray]

they came out in the 1980's

[jauze123]

lol

[teeter552007]

my grandfather messed his up by trying to make the chamber larger so that he could fire 10 guage shells and he did but it back fired on me lol

[Sugargoober]

Nice :D

[Shadow1981npqr]

LOL

[FallinBritProduction]

I second that.

[1337Citrus]

Poor melons...

[hot318]

geeze, you'd be fucked if you were a water melon!

[oldblackbetty]

sissy brits...

[sk8theDrake]

lol SILLY BRITS! TRIX ARE FOR KIDS !!!

[jauze123]

lol

[kaynedavis]

AA12 fully automatic shotgun is alot better, however google jackhammer shotgun, gas powered automatic shotgun capable of firing "Rate of fire: 240 rounds per minute"

[battlefieldchris]

I want to shot a water melon with my shotgun. Does anyone know what the best kind of shot is for water melon?

[yungthug4L]

id use almost anything.try the non leathol ones c if that is good enough!

[bigbobkropp]

you gotta use 00 Watermelon shot. lol. Try 00 buck, if that isnt spectacular enough, use slugs.

[killajoy714]

thats cool and thats on bf2

[ExtMk]

Wow that kicks ass

[jbrujones]

Yes sir 10 rounds of 12 gauge with the ease of a simpl pull beats the hell out of a pump

[only1mossberg]

nothing beats the intimidation and reliability of a pump

[jbrujones]

i didnt say i wouldnt rather have a pistol grip moss. though. saiga paid me to say something cool about their gun cuz im soo cool.

[mickey1337]

aw comeon mossberg. youre just upset that you dont have a saiga. right?

[sk8theDrake]

agreed

[njgahol]

yes it's cool!!!!

[njgahol]

Cool Heard about the semi-auto shotgun for the first time!!!!