I'm not quite sure if I understand correctly. Is he alluding that Germans are Africans based upon a war cry in a fictional movie? If so.. I do not want to live on this planet anymore.
@DaKhelwar Sarcasm doesn't have to funny, crazy person. A joke could be the lamest joke on the face of the earth but it's still a joke. Same goes for sarcasm. Looking at your responses, I'd say it's you who needs to lay off the vodka.
@UsurperOfThrones. hahaha u call that sarcasm?? u motherfuckers need to learn some humour! fucking jokes. stop getting pissed on cheap vodka its killing off ur brain cells, u turd.
Surely it's just Ridley Scott paying homage to Zulu? Hell I'd pay homage to Zulu in some shape or form if I had some cool ass battle scene in my film. Even if it meant having to convert men of Harlech into the national anthem of Australia.
Uh no, the German Migrations did not occur anywhere near then. If the creator of this video knew anything about the period he would know that the Romans invaded German territory.
'gladiator, uncovered evidence that would suggest that the bantu migration actually began at about 100 a.d. in northern europe' <--- hahahahaha u full of shit cunt. u telling me bantu africans are actually german?? hahaha. y do people try n speak clever when they stupid? u never heard of a director copying one another?? ridley scott copied the zulu war chant. dont try n make a simple thing into something that (ur b.s. theory of aryan migration to africa) u think makes u sound clever. spastick.
Step 2: Type "Merriam Webster Dictionary" into the search box, hit enter.
Step 3: Click on the first result returned. When the page has loaded, locate the search box, and type the combination of letters as follows: "joke". Hit enter.
Step 4: Read the first definition of "joke" on that page, try to understand the relationship between that word and what is happening in this video.
@Madpossum. go to ur local supermarket, get the cheapest vodka like u do, n then drown urself. ur demise wont be no loss to the human gene pool. u call this humour? what a freak
'gladiator, uncovered evidence that would suggest that the bantu migration actually began at about 100 a.d. in northern europe' <--- hahahahaha u full of shit cunt. u telling me bantu africans are actually german?? hahaha. y do people try n speak clever when they stupid? u never heard of a director copying one another?? ridley scott copied the zulu war chant. dont try n make a simple thing into something that (ur b.s. theory of aryan migration to africa) u think makes u sound clever. spastick.
europeans had their own acient war cries , the vikings were known for jewing on their sheilds and fighting so feircely they frothed at the mouth whilst fightig , seen as no tribes or warriors exist in europe now where else would they gain an authentic raw tribal battle cry
@bostonianful Ah. So you aren't interested in what the extras (all of whom were native-speaking Zulus) were saying. You just are interested in what the "movie developers" (none spoke Zulu) said. That's cool.
It's a pity I can't get people to look things up anymore. Facts can be had at the click of a button. Takes more time to write a message on YouTube. But it is just too much trouble.
@ImperialistRunningDo B.S. the movie zulu developers stated that the actors that played as zulus were actually former zulu tribe members. im pretty sure they spoke zulu.
@bostonianful There were 2 film units, one in England, one in Africa. The fight in the hospital was all filmed in the UK (James Booth never left the country, for example). The exterior battle was all done in South Africa. I've never met a "former zulu tribe member" but the extras were all 100% Current Zulus. The king was played by Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi, who's now very active in politics.
My point was: the extras all knew the old chants, the director didn't. Ask a Zulu what they are saying
@bostonianful Don't get me wrong, I love the movie "Zulu." But you must realize that the producer, director, and writers didn't spend a lot of time making sure they had their facts right. The Rev. Otto Witt's beautiful daughter would have been about 3 years old at the time, for example. The film makers just wanted to tell a good story and get a good film (which they did). But when they told the Zulus to charge, the Africans didn't say "where's my script?"
When I first saw Gladiator I noticed the Goths were using the exact same chant as the Zulus. What?! I thought it was pretty ridiculous they couldn't come up w/ their own Gothic war cries. Historicaly the Zulus at Rorke's Drift did not sing just before they attacked. The attack was rather sudden & unplanned & Zulus just charged straight at Rorke's Drift defenses.
It's a shame that Cy Endfield didn't have enough Martin-Henry rifles to hand out to the defenders at Rorke's Drift. Watch the film again and you'll notice quite a few Lee-Enfields with their conspicuous bolt-actions.
@jimincairns Thats interesting Jim. BTW the zulus who attacked the Drift had not been at Islandwana that day and only had muskets. Not the rifles shown in the film.
@Realbark1 Yes, you're correct. The impi under the command of Dabulamanzi (Cetshewayo's brother) had fought at Isandlwana, but the reserves, comprising of uDloko, uThulwana and inDlondo regiments of married men in their 30s and 40s and the inDlu-yengwe ibutho of young unmarried men mustered 3,000 to 4,000 warriors, none of them engaged during the battle at Isandlwana. This Zulu force was the 'loins' or reserve of the army at Isandlwana and is often referred to as the Undi Corps.
@Ennio - sorry, you're wrong. "Zulu" and "Zulu Dawn" are not the same movie. "Zulu Dawn" is a "prequel" that was filmed 15 years AFTER "Zulu", the movie shown here.
I KNOW I been watchin Zulu since i was 8 and when i heard the chant in Gladiator i was Like what the fuck i didn't know the Romans fought the zulus to. lol
Yeah, he was either paying hommage... or maybe he came to terms with the fact, as you seem to be unable to, that there is probably no way to know what a Germanic warcry sounded like, considering that those who may have spoken it have since become GERMANS. The only reason we know what that of the Zulu sounded like is because, they were not conquered until almost the turn of the 20th century, and as such it has been passed down orally because those areas are not yet fully modernized.
@OakRidgeBob Indeed. I have in The Gladiator's DVD the commentary of Ridley Scott and others, and he specifically mentioned the Zulu war chants of this movie.
I never noticed that the Germans were chanting the Zulu Bantu war cry. This was eye opening, but I don't think Ridley Scott found any evidence of the Bantu migration in Northern Europe... with the Germanic tribes! It was the Romans attacking the Germans at that, so how could the Germanic 'Bantu' speakers be migrating? Oh well, great video. It was eye opening and I always enjoy some good war cries.
@flybyX15 Not that simple. At Isandlwana the Zulus didn't have firearms, and they wiped out the British there. By Rourkes Drift (later the same day) they had the British weapons and ammunition. Colour Sgt. Bourne later observed that the outcome would have been very different had the Zulus known how to use them. It might also have been different had they stuck with what they knew.
I noticed the theatrical THEFT immediately when I first saw Gladiator. I was always impressed by the Zulu chant in the Movie ZULU. However, regardless of the motive of the director for using the old sound tract... it is an insult to the Zulu Warriors and the German Tribesman to distort the cultures like that. This War chant belongs to the Zulus alone.
ahahaha what an idiot who made this video. The reason it's the same track in Gladiator and Zulu is because the director of Zulu was a hero to the director of Gladiator - so he used the same track as a tribute. Idiot.
So damn what ! I love both films...Gladiator and Zulu. When I first saw Gladiator in the cinema I instantly reconigsed that 'chant' from Zulu in that scene- being brought up on the film Zulu. I thought Ridley Scott just added it for atmosphere, etc. its really no big deal.
@88Panzzer I'm pretty sure he's making fun of the fact that their using African chants for Germanic peoples. Most people are pretty ignorant when it comes to anything really, and would likely not even notice. So, he's being sarcastic, not formulating a human migration model based on Hollywood sound library cheese ups.
This guy is a freakin weirdo if he thinks the Germans are directly related to the Bantus. I bet he's just an inexperienced freakin jew trying to stir up trouble. Piece of crap.
I don't understand what people don't get about what this guy is pointing out. Study a bit of anthropology or watch and listen a little more carefully and you might get it. The German warriors are chanting in Zulu, which is an Nguni or Bantu dialect. I don't think it makes clear here whom the Romans are fighting, Gauls, or Teutons or what, but none of those peoples sung war chants in these dialects, which I personally find humorous. :D
@alzys177 Welsh Regiment of the British army; English NCO's and CO's, English Engineers, and most of the men in the medical bay were also English. To be blunt the Regiment like most in the British army contained all sorts, a Jock and a Mick as well I believe.
While Ridley Scott may have aimed this scene as a tribute to the awesome film "Zulu", Germanic warriors (as did probably every damned barbarian tribe everywhere) had war chants as well, duh.
A particular one called "the barritus" by the Roman historians who faced them, was a low bass roaring sound. Oh and they also used their shields like the zulus, in making noise.
this really shouldn't be a news flash. It's tribal psychological warfare 101. =)
beavi slight correction the zulu regiment that attacked rorkes drift did not stop to gather weapons but were in reserve and took off to gather glory for themselves much to their embarassment as it turned out//they would have weapons that they already had which only a few were new henry/martinis and yes they were poor marksman regards
officially, the brits only had 104 who were fit to fight (including the troops in the infirmary who were given riffles) and the Zulu force was estimated at 4500.
The zulu's had gathered the riffles from the 1700 troops that were slaughtered in an ambush, and althogh untrained in marksmanship, Had positioned men in the hills and were raining bullets into the camp from under cover by the trees and bushes that covered the hills.
man no matter what happened to the zulu's to fight and even put up a fight against guns with basically there bare hands is unbelievable them guys had nutz the size of basketballs
@zackhanscom No, he's pointing out that the same war chant was used in both movies - just in case no-one else noticed. Nice vase of flowers,too......check rfmgunner's comment.
Yes, Yes....I noticed that when I saw 'Gladiator'. It's a MOVIE, not an historical document - a story set in Rome and the Germans' war chant is POETIC LICENCE!!!. How does that mean that the Zulus "migrated to Germany??!! - Get Real!!
What a Pointless video! - you're really grasping at straws, bub.
The increases in bantu populations was caused by new developments in 17th Cent. The 1st the industrialization of western slave trade brought increasing wealth of those engaged, a secondary benefit not having to waste resources refighting again... two other developments 1) import of corn from America feeding more people & 2) domestication of livestock. Both required large amounts of water prompting fights & migrations to find water culminating in arrival in SA in late 18th & early 19th Cent.
I found this video because I just noticed the similarity while watching Gladiator and wondered if there was already a video about it. Lol. Nice catch.
actually it was earlier that day at isandlwana when the camp of about 1200 brits mostly the 24th foot and natal natives were overun and only about 50 survivors got away..the reserve impi didnt participate and had moved on that afternnon to rorkes drift to engage B co 24th foot and some auxillaries about 130 men all told jan 22 ,1879
It was a great intimidating chant made famous by the movie - and was simply borrowed for Gladiator, no big deal. I did pick it out when seeing the film and theatres and got a good laugh out of it.
Well, Tacitus and other contemporary historians mention the Germans singing. Too bad we don't know what it sounded like. It sounds to me like the German king is yelling "Du bist der verpfluchte hund," and the other Germans are yelling "Huuuunnnd!" I guess they're calling the Romans dogs. The Romans fought the Germans along the Gaullic frontier for many centuries, sometimes winning sometimes losing. If English is your native language, your cultural ancestors are in that crowd.
in the directors commentary of Gladiator he mentions using the sound from Zulu... paying homage and needing something that sounded tribal. can't blame him for wanting to use sound from a far superior movie. :P
the first zulu vs brit battle was isanlewana the 3 or 4 days later came rorks drift isanlewana was a large force of brits who split there forces (as the werent facing a "civilised and advanced" army so he split his forces to look for the zulu;s then the zulus overand both halfs and at rorks drift it was just a small garrison of about 100-250 men at a hospital facing about 3 million zulus and they faught bravly so king shaka (I think that was his name) fell back as he respected three bravery
I want to murder this guy. This is the kind of half assed research that spreads misinformation, and ultimately rewrites history. Simply said, the movie 'Zulu' was the greatest war movie ever made. The Zulu tribe, to Ridley Scott, sounded cool, and because of this, he used it as the inspiration for the German Barbarians in his own movie 'Gladiator.' uSuthu sounds like nothing found in the Old German languages.
Either way the Brits and Zulu were the baddest S.O.B.s on planet . The Brits badly out numbered, but armed, the Zulu with massive numbers and nothing but spears and loin cloths, both sides had enough balls to supply to world for years to come. Battle could have gone either way. If memory serves, the Zulu had wiped out a much larger Brit troop 3 or 4 days before.
@EnglandOwnsSpain - The Zulu were carrying a fair number of old firearms at Isandlwana, but they were mostly old muzzle loaders with limited range, while the Brits were using Martini Henry rifles of the most modern sort. Furthermore, the Zulus were very ill trained in sighting and firing rifles. They tended to aim too high.
@EnglandOwnsSpain - At Rorke's Drift, however, the Zulus were carrying many Martini Henry rifles taken off the British dead at Isandlwana. Again, their marksmanship with these weapons was poor, but they did kill a number of British soldiers who were behind the palisade by rifle fire. The British did know how to aim a modern rifle, and they wrecked havoc on the exposed Zulus who had no palisade to protect them.
@Morgteck That's not true, Zulu's did not have the Martini Henry's from Isandlwana, that's just in the film. The force at rorke's drift was there to prevent escapers from Isandlwana getting back over the buffalo river into british territory, they were never present at Isandlwana.
@wildthing1717 - Ah....yes, I think you may be right about that. If you are, then the Zulus at Rorke's Drift were just using their old muzzle loaders. They did score a few hits with their rifles from the hill that overlooks Rorke's Drift, but only a few. The Zulus tended to aim too high....they had the idea that a bullet packs more "strength" if you elevate the barrel of the gun higher. This made most of them very poor marksmen. But their courage was unquestionable.
@Morgteck The Zulu's were using the same Martini henry rifles as the troops as they had collected them from ther dead at Islandlwana several days before they just didn't have the practice using them as the troops did so wern't very effective.
@middsteve yeah if you see it about the film "zulu dawn" is a prequel to zulu that is about the battle where they were completly wiped out because of bad intelligence
@SnowBumRider I did not know much about the real life event... just what the movie shows (love it, bought it) . But I have been taught a bunch since I got on here. Thanks
If you want badass check the history of the moro tribe in the philippines during the philippine - american war. Nothing more badass than pinoy!
U.S. soldiers could'nt stop those guys with 38 caliber. Only time in history an army had to change standard issue guns in order to effectivly kill people bearing swords.
British and U.S are pussies, just rely on guns, if it was fair with just swords the white boys would'nt stand a chance. True?
@middsteve i'm going to correct you on that, the Zulu's wiped out the British column on the morning of the 27th, that battle was isandawana, a few hours later that same day, the Zulu's attacked Rorke's Drift. These were the same people that were at isandawana. Rorke's drift lasted till the following morning, were the zulu's finally gave up attacking. Since Rorke's Drift the British used the same tactics at the other battles, and were able to defeat the zulus from then on.
I'm not quite sure if I understand correctly. Is he alluding that Germans are Africans based upon a war cry in a fictional movie? If so.. I do not want to live on this planet anymore.
Lkonae 9 hours ago
@DaKhelwar Sarcasm doesn't have to funny, crazy person. A joke could be the lamest joke on the face of the earth but it's still a joke. Same goes for sarcasm. Looking at your responses, I'd say it's you who needs to lay off the vodka.
UsurperOfThrones 1 week ago
@DaKhelwar Sarcasm must be a terribly difficult concept for you to grasp.
UsurperOfThrones 2 weeks ago
@UsurperOfThrones. hahaha u call that sarcasm?? u motherfuckers need to learn some humour! fucking jokes. stop getting pissed on cheap vodka its killing off ur brain cells, u turd.
DaKhelwar 1 week ago
and in gladiator its OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO u sick bastard
thekillabeevids 3 weeks ago
i think its U ZULU!
thekillabeevids 3 weeks ago
Surely it's just Ridley Scott paying homage to Zulu? Hell I'd pay homage to Zulu in some shape or form if I had some cool ass battle scene in my film. Even if it meant having to convert men of Harlech into the national anthem of Australia.
ArsenicBlackgammon 1 month ago
Im watching the opening scene of gladiator on tv right now and the similarities in cries betwwen the zulus and germans is uncanny.
TrianosDellas 1 month ago
Uh no, the German Migrations did not occur anywhere near then. If the creator of this video knew anything about the period he would know that the Romans invaded German territory.
DestroyerOfSense000 2 months ago
This chap is crying out for a slap.
Markofsatan 3 months ago
'gladiator, uncovered evidence that would suggest that the bantu migration actually began at about 100 a.d. in northern europe' <--- hahahahaha u full of shit cunt. u telling me bantu africans are actually german?? hahaha. y do people try n speak clever when they stupid? u never heard of a director copying one another?? ridley scott copied the zulu war chant. dont try n make a simple thing into something that (ur b.s. theory of aryan migration to africa) u think makes u sound clever. spastick.
DaKhelwar 4 months ago
@DaKhelwar Step 1: Go to Google.
Step 2: Type "Merriam Webster Dictionary" into the search box, hit enter.
Step 3: Click on the first result returned. When the page has loaded, locate the search box, and type the combination of letters as follows: "joke". Hit enter.
Step 4: Read the first definition of "joke" on that page, try to understand the relationship between that word and what is happening in this video.
Madpossum 3 months ago
@Madpossum. hahahaha what a fucking tool. Go look up batty box in ur dick-tionary u bell end.
DaKhelwar 3 months ago
@Madpossum. go to ur local supermarket, get the cheapest vodka like u do, n then drown urself. ur demise wont be no loss to the human gene pool. u call this humour? what a freak
DaKhelwar 1 week ago
'gladiator, uncovered evidence that would suggest that the bantu migration actually began at about 100 a.d. in northern europe' <--- hahahahaha u full of shit cunt. u telling me bantu africans are actually german?? hahaha. y do people try n speak clever when they stupid? u never heard of a director copying one another?? ridley scott copied the zulu war chant. dont try n make a simple thing into something that (ur b.s. theory of aryan migration to africa) u think makes u sound clever. spastick.
DaKhelwar 4 months ago
Flowers FTW!
ninjastah 4 months ago
"that was very nice of him" ha lol
dave01123 4 months ago
It's a tribute. You can even hear the shield smacking going on even though none of the barbarians are hitting their shields.
ScreaminGreenMachine 5 months ago
they aren`t usuthing them, they`re Luing them!
rogerfraserr 5 months ago
i speak qua-zulu natal lingo and the zulus are saying " your gonna get your f###ing head kicked in ya sheep sh###ing twat.
mrralvintwerp 5 months ago 2
Good catch
dednrurc 5 months ago
It's a tribute dude, get over it!
yarnathan 5 months ago
pranett
teamcrumb 5 months ago
of course hollywood fucked up, i don't think they have ever gone for realism in a historical war film.
liampw20 6 months ago
they are saying "ill sue you"
mrralvintwerp 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
shut up you twat.
TheAirsoftAction 6 months ago
Don't listen to them. The flowers were lovely.
OldWorldAmerican 6 months ago
I recognized the Zulu war chants right away the first time I saw Gladiator.
errk25 7 months ago 6
@errk25 Same here, but I was confused why Rhineland barbarians were doing a Zulu war chant.
jimbopumbapigsticks 7 months ago
europeans had their own acient war cries , the vikings were known for jewing on their sheilds and fighting so feircely they frothed at the mouth whilst fightig , seen as no tribes or warriors exist in europe now where else would they gain an authentic raw tribal battle cry
cambershots 7 months ago
1:02 thier saying zulu dumb dumb. not usuthu!
bostonianful 7 months ago
@bostonianful Tell you what chum. Look up the word "Usuthu" and then tell us what you find. Should take all of 10 seconds.
ImperialistRunningDo 6 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo iit doesnt matter what it means. ive seen the devlopers of this movie interviewed. thier saying zulu.
bostonianful 6 months ago
@bostonianful Ah. So you aren't interested in what the extras (all of whom were native-speaking Zulus) were saying. You just are interested in what the "movie developers" (none spoke Zulu) said. That's cool.
It's a pity I can't get people to look things up anymore. Facts can be had at the click of a button. Takes more time to write a message on YouTube. But it is just too much trouble.
ImperialistRunningDo 6 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo B.S. the movie zulu developers stated that the actors that played as zulus were actually former zulu tribe members. im pretty sure they spoke zulu.
bostonianful 6 months ago
@bostonianful There were 2 film units, one in England, one in Africa. The fight in the hospital was all filmed in the UK (James Booth never left the country, for example). The exterior battle was all done in South Africa. I've never met a "former zulu tribe member" but the extras were all 100% Current Zulus. The king was played by Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi, who's now very active in politics.
My point was: the extras all knew the old chants, the director didn't. Ask a Zulu what they are saying
ImperialistRunningDo 6 months ago
@bostonianful Don't get me wrong, I love the movie "Zulu." But you must realize that the producer, director, and writers didn't spend a lot of time making sure they had their facts right. The Rev. Otto Witt's beautiful daughter would have been about 3 years old at the time, for example. The film makers just wanted to tell a good story and get a good film (which they did). But when they told the Zulus to charge, the Africans didn't say "where's my script?"
ImperialistRunningDo 6 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo exactly. cause they were actual former tribe members of the zulu's.
bostonianful 6 months ago
When I first saw Gladiator I noticed the Goths were using the exact same chant as the Zulus. What?! I thought it was pretty ridiculous they couldn't come up w/ their own Gothic war cries. Historicaly the Zulus at Rorke's Drift did not sing just before they attacked. The attack was rather sudden & unplanned & Zulus just charged straight at Rorke's Drift defenses.
AlternityGM 7 months ago
dude....what's with the flowers?
jamisonirish 7 months ago
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conjigalo 7 months ago
AT 100 YARDS, VOLLY FIRE. PRESENT...FIRE!
tmlafrance 8 months ago 3
So all your where getting at is that they used the same chants? wasted 2:12 of my life...
wikey1236 8 months ago
Ridley said in the film commentary that is were they got the chant from.
Thx1138d 8 months ago
been to africa much?
chucklepants69 8 months ago
1:50 - best battle cry ever
Stevie2Sxc 9 months ago
it's funny cuz thugh it's payin homage to Zulu you gotta admit the Germanians sound great sayin the chant
GQSmoke 9 months ago
@flybyX15 well the spears beat the guns badly the first time they fought
ThaCerealKilla 10 months ago
he got his inspiration from "Zulu". Funny thing is, it makes "Gladiator" bizarre with those Germanic peoples to be chanting like that.
AceofDlamonds 10 months ago
can anybody tell me what they are chanting when they respond with ja??? ta very much
sharpe183 10 months ago
whats with the flowers?
junkybabes 10 months ago 37
@junkybabes They're pretty.
Vares65 8 months ago
@junkybabes
gay people like to be surrounded by flowers.
with his gay appearance and accent he's as faggy as you can get.
Goldpferd 8 months ago
It's a shame that Cy Endfield didn't have enough Martin-Henry rifles to hand out to the defenders at Rorke's Drift. Watch the film again and you'll notice quite a few Lee-Enfields with their conspicuous bolt-actions.
jimincairns 10 months ago
@jimincairns Thats interesting Jim. BTW the zulus who attacked the Drift had not been at Islandwana that day and only had muskets. Not the rifles shown in the film.
Realbark1 10 months ago
@Realbark1 Yes, you're correct. The impi under the command of Dabulamanzi (Cetshewayo's brother) had fought at Isandlwana, but the reserves, comprising of uDloko, uThulwana and inDlondo regiments of married men in their 30s and 40s and the inDlu-yengwe ibutho of young unmarried men mustered 3,000 to 4,000 warriors, none of them engaged during the battle at Isandlwana. This Zulu force was the 'loins' or reserve of the army at Isandlwana and is often referred to as the Undi Corps.
jimincairns 10 months ago
First thing I noticed when I saw "Gladiator".
scouterjim 10 months ago
@Ennio - sorry, you're wrong. "Zulu" and "Zulu Dawn" are not the same movie. "Zulu Dawn" is a "prequel" that was filmed 15 years AFTER "Zulu", the movie shown here.
cimawr 11 months ago
You have to be the biggest asshole of all times.
cannedsoma 11 months ago
I KNOW I been watchin Zulu since i was 8 and when i heard the chant in Gladiator i was Like what the fuck i didn't know the Romans fought the zulus to. lol
sokarsfleet 11 months ago
The name of the film is not "Zulu", but "Zulu Dawn". Still, funny video.
Ennio444 11 months ago
@Ennio444 That's Zulu mate
freddage91 11 months ago
@Ennio444
no dude you're wrong. go away
lostlemming 10 months ago
typical hollywood historical accuracy
McBad48 11 months ago
I'm glad I was not the only one that made a connection between the two films with the war chant.
mosquito103 11 months ago
You have it wrong mate ....them was German Zulus. Adolph Buthelezi and his SS Assegai Regiment.
BlackCountryPuddler 1 year ago
the directors of gladiator used the chant because they were inspired by the film zulu.
michaelUNITEDKINGDOM 1 year ago
i had a feeling that in gladiator the war chant sounded a bit to tribal for germanic people.
its only till i watched zulu i realised where the chant really came from.
tag1989 1 year ago
@tag1989 yea i never notcied they were the same chant until watching this.
warprod 1 year ago
Yeah, he was either paying hommage... or maybe he came to terms with the fact, as you seem to be unable to, that there is probably no way to know what a Germanic warcry sounded like, considering that those who may have spoken it have since become GERMANS. The only reason we know what that of the Zulu sounded like is because, they were not conquered until almost the turn of the 20th century, and as such it has been passed down orally because those areas are not yet fully modernized.
Fishsticks187 1 year ago
no mystery..probably paying homage to a film ridley scott likedd
NullSp3ctre 1 year ago
Nah - Ridley Scott says that Zulu was one of his favorite movies. No mystery here.
OakRidgeBob 1 year ago 33
@OakRidgeBob Indeed. I have in The Gladiator's DVD the commentary of Ridley Scott and others, and he specifically mentioned the Zulu war chants of this movie.
Lorscia 3 days ago
they should put germanic warriors vs zulu on deadliest warrior lol.
soukupb 1 year ago
i noticed that in Gladiator. Figured someone writing or doing sound for that scene was a Zulu fan or something. :)
bloodangel160 1 year ago
I never noticed that the Germans were chanting the Zulu Bantu war cry. This was eye opening, but I don't think Ridley Scott found any evidence of the Bantu migration in Northern Europe... with the Germanic tribes! It was the Romans attacking the Germans at that, so how could the Germanic 'Bantu' speakers be migrating? Oh well, great video. It was eye opening and I always enjoy some good war cries.
skimailus 1 year ago
@skimailus any idea what the zulus were actually saying? I've been trying to find it but all I get is the youtube video from Zulu.
bloodangel160 1 year ago
@flybyX15 Not that simple. At Isandlwana the Zulus didn't have firearms, and they wiped out the British there. By Rourkes Drift (later the same day) they had the British weapons and ammunition. Colour Sgt. Bourne later observed that the outcome would have been very different had the Zulus known how to use them. It might also have been different had they stuck with what they knew.
msspi764 1 year ago
They should have used a bit of Rammstein for the Germanic chant.
ComeNowSpartacus 1 year ago
@flybyX15 not in all cases, remember what happened at Isandlwana? lol
Dandaman00019 1 year ago
I noticed the theatrical THEFT immediately when I first saw Gladiator. I was always impressed by the Zulu chant in the Movie ZULU. However, regardless of the motive of the director for using the old sound tract... it is an insult to the Zulu Warriors and the German Tribesman to distort the cultures like that. This War chant belongs to the Zulus alone.
pjbaby66 1 year ago
ahahaha what an idiot who made this video. The reason it's the same track in Gladiator and Zulu is because the director of Zulu was a hero to the director of Gladiator - so he used the same track as a tribute. Idiot.
Redheadfury 1 year ago
So damn what ! I love both films...Gladiator and Zulu. When I first saw Gladiator in the cinema I instantly reconigsed that 'chant' from Zulu in that scene- being brought up on the film Zulu. I thought Ridley Scott just added it for atmosphere, etc. its really no big deal.
cantopsych 1 year ago
dude you dumb the director of Gladiator incorporated the Zulu war chant because it was his favorite movie growing up
fuherbunker 1 year ago
@Isthisthelongestname Well! It's a pleasure to meet you "Calm Down Kid", is that a street name or just a pseudonym?
Nah, I'm just being a smart ass.
I understand what you are saying.
I was just breaking down 88Panzzer's racial ignorance, his Jew remark was absurd and unnecessary.
AcceptablePsychosis 1 year ago
You 'orribe little man.
Isthisthelongestname 1 year ago
TYT ftw
masterkayaki 1 year ago
Riddley Scott was always in awe of Cy Enfield's brilliant direction that he included the Zulu chant in reverence / honour to the movie.
Berkcam 1 year ago
@88Panzzer I'm pretty sure he's making fun of the fact that their using African chants for Germanic peoples. Most people are pretty ignorant when it comes to anything really, and would likely not even notice. So, he's being sarcastic, not formulating a human migration model based on Hollywood sound library cheese ups.
AcceptablePsychosis 1 year ago
This guy is a freakin weirdo if he thinks the Germans are directly related to the Bantus. I bet he's just an inexperienced freakin jew trying to stir up trouble. Piece of crap.
88Panzzer 1 year ago
I don't understand what people don't get about what this guy is pointing out. Study a bit of anthropology or watch and listen a little more carefully and you might get it. The German warriors are chanting in Zulu, which is an Nguni or Bantu dialect. I don't think it makes clear here whom the Romans are fighting, Gauls, or Teutons or what, but none of those peoples sung war chants in these dialects, which I personally find humorous. :D
AcceptablePsychosis 1 year ago
@AcceptablePsychosis
I'm calm down kid, its not accurate - Ridely scott said he added it to the film becuase he loved zulu and it sounded cool......nothing more.
Something from one film and something from another = epic goodness for the win! (as I believe you yanks are fond of saying.)
Isthisthelongestname 1 year ago
Glad someone else noticed that someone used Zulu in Gladiator.
pob3000tb 1 year ago
@pob3000tb , I noticed it the first time I saw the movie.
I also still hear that wounded yell from the cowboy(Cavalry) and Indian movies from the 50's being used.
TexDem 1 year ago
@pob3000tb , I noticed it the first time I saw the movie.
I also still hear that wounded yell from the cowboy(Cavalry) and Indian movies from the 50's being used. It's even used in Avatar.
TexDem 1 year ago
just to point out the soilders in Zulu were Welsh !
alzys177 1 year ago
@alzys177 Welsh Regiment of the British army; English NCO's and CO's, English Engineers, and most of the men in the medical bay were also English. To be blunt the Regiment like most in the British army contained all sorts, a Jock and a Mick as well I believe.
angryredcom 1 year ago
@alzys177.
24th Regiment of Foot, Warwickshire. The majority of the men were from Birmingham actually mate. Though yes there was a large body of Welshmen.
angryredcom 1 year ago
@alzys177 hmmmm, not a much as the Welsh like to make out, it wasn't even a welsh regiment at the time.
pob3000tb 1 year ago
There is another film were this chants are repeated. The film is "King Arthur".
Targul 1 year ago
While Ridley Scott may have aimed this scene as a tribute to the awesome film "Zulu", Germanic warriors (as did probably every damned barbarian tribe everywhere) had war chants as well, duh.
A particular one called "the barritus" by the Roman historians who faced them, was a low bass roaring sound. Oh and they also used their shields like the zulus, in making noise.
this really shouldn't be a news flash. It's tribal psychological warfare 101. =)
Fimbulnacht 1 year ago
beavi slight correction the zulu regiment that attacked rorkes drift did not stop to gather weapons but were in reserve and took off to gather glory for themselves much to their embarassment as it turned out//they would have weapons that they already had which only a few were new henry/martinis and yes they were poor marksman regards
pdogone1 1 year ago
officially, the brits only had 104 who were fit to fight (including the troops in the infirmary who were given riffles) and the Zulu force was estimated at 4500.
The zulu's had gathered the riffles from the 1700 troops that were slaughtered in an ambush, and althogh untrained in marksmanship, Had positioned men in the hills and were raining bullets into the camp from under cover by the trees and bushes that covered the hills.
Beavii 1 year ago
man no matter what happened to the zulu's to fight and even put up a fight against guns with basically there bare hands is unbelievable them guys had nutz the size of basketballs
GoodSheppard2 1 year ago
I always felt sorry for the guys that had to test the enemies firepower , thats a really bum deal.
hablerz 1 year ago
Stop chucking. Bloody spears. At me.
Interdiffusion 1 year ago
piis off
shooterwall 1 year ago
enfield the gun company??
supermorshu 1 year ago
@supermorshu They ran out of blanks for the henri rifles, so 2 alternatives were used at the same times
1. Most of the simulated the recoil, with gun sounds added later
2. Some others shot lee-enfield blanks.
Also not the revolver of the officers is the Webley 6, introduced in 1915!
NLFonsseals 1 year ago
i don't get the point of his satire. is he saying all war chants originated from africa?
zackhanscom 1 year ago
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slideharp1 1 year ago
@zackhanscom No, he's pointing out that the same war chant was used in both movies - just in case no-one else noticed. Nice vase of flowers,too......check rfmgunner's comment.
slideharp1 1 year ago
Apologies - I didn't realize this guy is taking the piss.
slideharp1 1 year ago
Yes, Yes....I noticed that when I saw 'Gladiator'. It's a MOVIE, not an historical document - a story set in Rome and the Germans' war chant is POETIC LICENCE!!!. How does that mean that the Zulus "migrated to Germany??!! - Get Real!!
What a Pointless video! - you're really grasping at straws, bub.
slideharp1 1 year ago
The increases in bantu populations was caused by new developments in 17th Cent. The 1st the industrialization of western slave trade brought increasing wealth of those engaged, a secondary benefit not having to waste resources refighting again... two other developments 1) import of corn from America feeding more people & 2) domestication of livestock. Both required large amounts of water prompting fights & migrations to find water culminating in arrival in SA in late 18th & early 19th Cent.
MartinIDavies 1 year ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that in both films
travett1001 1 year ago
Im waiting for the flowers next to him to say something!
rfmgunner 1 year ago
@rfmgunner Lol!!
slideharp1 1 year ago
total badasses think alike?
ggcpres 1 year ago
I found this video because I just noticed the similarity while watching Gladiator and wondered if there was already a video about it. Lol. Nice catch.
WishMasterPtolemy 1 year ago
shit i never noticed the same call was in both films
Diablo666Daemon666 1 year ago
actually it was earlier that day at isandlwana when the camp of about 1200 brits mostly the 24th foot and natal natives were overun and only about 50 survivors got away..the reserve impi didnt participate and had moved on that afternnon to rorkes drift to engage B co 24th foot and some auxillaries about 130 men all told jan 22 ,1879
pdogone1 1 year ago
There is a thing called being, " too muthafuckin damn brave"! My Daddy said so.
gazzi22 1 year ago
Ha Ha Ha! That was a good one.
SimonSnotface 1 year ago
This is indeed an interseting obesrvation which I had never noticed. They do sound very similiar, if not identical.
HitchcockJohn 1 year ago
@HitchcockJohn Ridley Scott commented that he deliberately used the chants from Zulu in Gladiator.
jjay75 1 year ago
highly recommend to anyone who enjoyed this movie to get the making of zulu it was filmed in aparteid south africa great story
pdogone1 1 year ago
It was a great intimidating chant made famous by the movie - and was simply borrowed for Gladiator, no big deal. I did pick it out when seeing the film and theatres and got a good laugh out of it.
617Ghost 1 year ago
ridly probably made it up and just edited the chant in there to save money :P
TheShart1234 1 year ago
does anyone know what the guy with the beard is yelling??
timotio444 1 year ago
Very interesting , the link between battles all those years apart.....
FILABJBOY 1 year ago
pffff haha 'INDEPENDENT FIRE AT WILL!!!!' 'thats very nice of him' XD
TekranoXx 1 year ago 37
Well, Tacitus and other contemporary historians mention the Germans singing. Too bad we don't know what it sounded like. It sounds to me like the German king is yelling "Du bist der verpfluchte hund," and the other Germans are yelling "Huuuunnnd!" I guess they're calling the Romans dogs. The Romans fought the Germans along the Gaullic frontier for many centuries, sometimes winning sometimes losing. If English is your native language, your cultural ancestors are in that crowd.
Axgoodofdunemaul 1 year ago
in the directors commentary of Gladiator he mentions using the sound from Zulu... paying homage and needing something that sounded tribal. can't blame him for wanting to use sound from a far superior movie. :P
TheGimp505 1 year ago
the first zulu vs brit battle was isanlewana the 3 or 4 days later came rorks drift isanlewana was a large force of brits who split there forces (as the werent facing a "civilised and advanced" army so he split his forces to look for the zulu;s then the zulus overand both halfs and at rorks drift it was just a small garrison of about 100-250 men at a hospital facing about 3 million zulus and they faught bravly so king shaka (I think that was his name) fell back as he respected three bravery
spartanlemming1996 1 year ago
@spartanlemming1996 correct anything here and sorry about the spelling lol
spartanlemming1996 1 year ago
@spartanlemming1996 The battles were on the same day.
macklen5210 1 year ago
I want to murder this guy. This is the kind of half assed research that spreads misinformation, and ultimately rewrites history. Simply said, the movie 'Zulu' was the greatest war movie ever made. The Zulu tribe, to Ridley Scott, sounded cool, and because of this, he used it as the inspiration for the German Barbarians in his own movie 'Gladiator.' uSuthu sounds like nothing found in the Old German languages.
MessiahComing 1 year ago
@MessiahComing ...u must be joking...he was obviously poking fun at the fact that he had used the same chant
SocialistProletariat 1 year ago
@MessiahComing lol , hes just kidding - he's doing it deadpan.
hablerz 1 year ago
so confused.
PullThenTake 1 year ago
Ridley Scott's sound department really f*cked that up. When I saw this movie in the theater I said, "Wait a minute. WTF?"
hollywoodwerewolf 1 year ago
i noticed this as well
thegiantpigeon 1 year ago
Haha, Ive been thinking this for years!
junketjoey 1 year ago
anyone knows what the guy is yelling at 1:50 ?
stafax 1 year ago
@stafax Er sind ...
restargh 1 year ago
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bibolinzki 1 year ago
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@stafax if i compare that with german it sounds like "Verfluchte Hunde" => "damned dogs"
bibolinzki 1 year ago
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bibolinzki 1 year ago
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@stafax if i compare that with german, it sounds like "Ihr seid doch verfluchte Hunde" => "your're damned dogs"
bibolinzki 1 year ago
Either way the Brits and Zulu were the baddest S.O.B.s on planet . The Brits badly out numbered, but armed, the Zulu with massive numbers and nothing but spears and loin cloths, both sides had enough balls to supply to world for years to come. Battle could have gone either way. If memory serves, the Zulu had wiped out a much larger Brit troop 3 or 4 days before.
middsteve 1 year ago 19
@middsteve
" the Zulu with massive numbers and nothing but spears and loin cloths"
Nope, overall the Zulus had more guns than the British amry had.
The majority of the British deaths were from gunfire NOT spears...
EnglandOwnsSpain 1 year ago
@EnglandOwnsSpain Guns from the previous Brit outpost that they overran ??
middsteve 1 year ago
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EnglandOwnsSpain 1 year ago
@middsteve
Yes.
But they also bought guns off the Spanish aswell...Well worked for them lol.
EnglandOwnsSpain 1 year ago
@EnglandOwnsSpain I did not know that, thanks for the history lesson.
middsteve 1 year ago
@EnglandOwnsSpain - The Zulu were carrying a fair number of old firearms at Isandlwana, but they were mostly old muzzle loaders with limited range, while the Brits were using Martini Henry rifles of the most modern sort. Furthermore, the Zulus were very ill trained in sighting and firing rifles. They tended to aim too high.
Morgteck 1 year ago
@EnglandOwnsSpain - At Rorke's Drift, however, the Zulus were carrying many Martini Henry rifles taken off the British dead at Isandlwana. Again, their marksmanship with these weapons was poor, but they did kill a number of British soldiers who were behind the palisade by rifle fire. The British did know how to aim a modern rifle, and they wrecked havoc on the exposed Zulus who had no palisade to protect them.
Morgteck 1 year ago
@Morgteck That's not true, Zulu's did not have the Martini Henry's from Isandlwana, that's just in the film. The force at rorke's drift was there to prevent escapers from Isandlwana getting back over the buffalo river into british territory, they were never present at Isandlwana.
wildthing1717 1 year ago
@wildthing1717 - Ah....yes, I think you may be right about that. If you are, then the Zulus at Rorke's Drift were just using their old muzzle loaders. They did score a few hits with their rifles from the hill that overlooks Rorke's Drift, but only a few. The Zulus tended to aim too high....they had the idea that a bullet packs more "strength" if you elevate the barrel of the gun higher. This made most of them very poor marksmen. But their courage was unquestionable.
Morgteck 1 year ago
@Morgteck The Zulu's were using the same Martini henry rifles as the troops as they had collected them from ther dead at Islandlwana several days before they just didn't have the practice using them as the troops did so wern't very effective.
Birkbeck
Birkbecks 1 year ago
@middsteve yeah if you see it about the film "zulu dawn" is a prequel to zulu that is about the battle where they were completly wiped out because of bad intelligence
RobStark12 1 year ago 3
@middsteve Yes your right the Zulu's wiped out a British force between 1,200 and 1,500 men at the battle of Islandlwana.
Birkbeck
Birkbecks 1 year ago
@middsteve Actually it was the same day and the morning after. The battle before was Isandlwana.
Turpmandude 1 year ago
@middsteve the Zulus had some sharpshooters (men with stolen guns) most of the british dead were taken by them
SnowBumRider 1 year ago
@SnowBumRider I did not know much about the real life event... just what the movie shows (love it, bought it) . But I have been taught a bunch since I got on here. Thanks
middsteve 1 year ago
@middsteve Actually it was the same day, which makes the victory at Rorke's Drift all the more interesting.
HitchcockJohn 1 year ago
@middsteve 20,000 zulus had wiped out a Brit force of 1,700 in a surprise attack two days before.
slideharp1 1 year ago
@middsteve Yeah, but the Zulus had an overwhelming force of about 24, 000.
grobo11 1 year ago
@middsteve
If you want badass check the history of the moro tribe in the philippines during the philippine - american war. Nothing more badass than pinoy!
U.S. soldiers could'nt stop those guys with 38 caliber. Only time in history an army had to change standard issue guns in order to effectivly kill people bearing swords.
British and U.S are pussies, just rely on guns, if it was fair with just swords the white boys would'nt stand a chance. True?
boogiebudgie 1 year ago
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theshow2k8 1 year ago
@middsteve It was earlier that day! The zulu didn't hang about. As to the same chant..... I concur.
longkeith 1 year ago
@middsteve i'm going to correct you on that, the Zulu's wiped out the British column on the morning of the 27th, that battle was isandawana, a few hours later that same day, the Zulu's attacked Rorke's Drift. These were the same people that were at isandawana. Rorke's drift lasted till the following morning, were the zulu's finally gave up attacking. Since Rorke's Drift the British used the same tactics at the other battles, and were able to defeat the zulus from then on.
8Ball2221 1 year ago
@8Ball2221 Now I'm going to correct you. The battle was on the 22nd., not the 27th.
jimincairns 10 months ago
@jimincairns oh did i say 27th??? My bad
8Ball2221 10 months ago
@middsteve
Indeed they did at Isandwana, they wiped out 1000 british troops.
ZommeNoire 1 year ago
@middsteve
haha, did you just give up the viking way then? just stat using guns then. The vikings were vile pricks anyway like the british. Where are they now?
The Moro tribe are still around.
boogiebudgie 1 year ago
@boogiebudgie
The Vikings were a great warrior race! vile? yes but only when needed to be.
They were noble civilised men who were ahead of everyone during their time,they were great craftsmen,farmers,traders and navig