Prabhupada Is Alive 1/11

[TheScar21]

you fucking idiots..i would believe in Prabhupada..but one thing he gets wrong constantly is believing in KRISHNA

KRISHNA IS ANOTHER MADE UP GOD JUST LIKE JESUS, TAKEN FROM HORUSES STORY IDIOTS

[krsnakris]

sure I'll go now, - to ISKCON Bangalore where they have the right example, ie, chant Hare Krishna and be HAPPY! =:-)

[krsnakris]

In 17 years with the Hare Krishna's, this is the grimmest most uninviting unsmiling representation I've seen yet. These guys haven't got a clue.There's something 'not right' here. Haribol.

[Prabhupadanugas]

accha? one thing though next time hide the "iskcon" tatoo on your chest

[krsnakris]

My tattoo is not  ISKCON, it's Prabhupada.

[Prabhupadanugas]

..you can go now

[krsnakris]

Sure, to ISKKCON Bangalore where they have the RIGHT example, thanks for the advice prabhu. Chant Hare Krishna and be HAPPY! =:-)

[thedispatcher66]

do you know anything about david bruce hughes?

[Prabhupadanugas]

bogus

[Prabhupadanugas]

" I am always a bit dubious about organisations and since the swami died it does seem to be chaotic, with all kinds of guys thinking they're the gurus. To me, it's not important to be a guru, it's more important just to be, to learn humility."

G.Harrison

[Jhulanyatradd]

That will be misused. Therefore when we initiate, we inquire from the head of the temple, "How long he is coming? What is his behavior?" If he certifies that "Yes, he is doing nice," then we initiate. Our initiation is not so cheap, "You come and be initiated." No, we do not do that. We must test you first of all. Then we initiate.

[Jhulanyatradd]

Initiation Within the Heart

Questioner: Srila Prabhupada, does a disciple first accept his spiritual master within the heart when he takes initiation?

Prabhupada: Initiation is the third stage. First stage is -- just like you have come. This is called sraddha, a little faith, not full faith. Then you have to increase this faith by association of devotees. That is required. And when the faith is increased, then the question of initiation. Initiation should not be immediately offered..........

[satellite77777]

You Devotees will have an abundance of blessings! I wish you all well...Haribol!

[gettuff2]

The last temptation is the greatest treason

to do the right thing for the wrong reason.

(T S Elliot).

You start by saying that Srila Prabhupada is the last link. What the hell sort of statement is that? The Guru parampara is alive and well. If you give up cheating yourself you may find it. We are not Prabhupadanugas, that is so much bogus speculation, we are Rupanugas as is Srila Prabhupada. It sounds to me like someone has their eye on being guru. Just like Christianity, he's the ONLY way!!!

[davegarret]

How can someone who simply wishes to worship Srila Prabhupada be in any way 'have their eye on being guru' it is in fact the opposite way round, those who deny Prabhupada's wish for a Ritvik system to go on post samhadi are actually the ones who are ambitious and wanting to be the next guru, just like 80 or so self elected Iskcon guru's and also bogus Gaudia matha so called guru's who were nothing but envious of Srila Prabhupada

[gettuff2]

Just to be clear. I in no way would ever dream of discouraging anyone from taking to Krsna consciousness. However in your case you are propagating apasidhanta. The Guru Parampara is an eternal entity,just as Guru is an eternal entity. He is Saksat Hari, the direct potency of Hari.He is eternal, Guru is one. Guru means one who is living and preaching the glories of Radha Krsna conjugal which is the essence of Chaitanyas' teachings, Sri Chaitanya manobistham.

Can we have a philosophical discussion

[gettuff2]

Without getting offensive.

I am making these points and would be honored if you can clarify by Shastra.

1; How does Srila Prabhupada end the Guru Parampara?

2; Did Prabhupada authorize deviating from the Guru Parampara?

3; What is the meaning of "ritvik"?

If we are divided by tattva then what good will our so called preaching do. We will simply spread confusion.

Pls reply as you wish.

Praying for the day our differences will be sorted and we can come together in Sankirtan yajna.

[gettuff2]

Sorry thought I'd lost a comment.

[gettuff2]

without digressing to offense.

I would be honoured if you could clarify these points by Shastra .

1 How did Srila Prabhupada end the Guru Parampara?

2 When did SP authorize the cessation of GP?

3 What is the definition of ritvik?

If you could answer these questions for me it may help me in my KC.

If we can clarify these points it may well help others to understand tattva correctly.

Praying for the day our differences are sorted and we can come together happily in sankirtan yajna.

[davegarret]

Hare Krishna and thankyou. Just to clarify and answer your points.

1. We never suggest Prabhupada 'ended' the Parampara, just that he is still the 'current link' even though not physically present.

2.Prabhupada via the July 9th Directive set up a Ritvik system,he authorised no one to replace him.

3.Ritvik simply means'priest' who initiates ON BEHALF of Prabhupada, the disciple being Prabhupada's disciple NOT the Ritviks. Ritvik just performs the ceremony and chants on the beads.

[davegarret]

1. Prabhupada did not 'end' Parampara, he is the current link in the Parampara, Guru does not need to be physicallt present.

2. Prabhupada set up a Ritivk system via the July 9th Letter.

3. Ritvik means 'priest' who simply performs the fire sacrifice and chants on beads ON BEHALF of the Guru Srila Prabhupada, the initiated disciple is Prabhupada's disciple, Ritvik just works on behalf of the Guru.

Please read the July 9th Letter it is on the net, just google it.

[bhaktabill]

Enough of this nonsense! Get a guru! You can't have Prabhupada, sorry you blew it in your last life. Before that you were

Bhaktisiddhanta's disciples too I suppose. Find a guru NOW because you sure need one. Don't be so idiot and offensive to Prabhupada's initiated disciples because non of you are, whether you wish you were in your past lives or not!

[davegarret]

Bhaktabill is a well known Troll he can stick to worshiping deviants, we will stick to Prabhupada. Who in there right mind would even suggest that worshiping Prabhupada without accepting a corrupt Iskcon 'guru' is in any way wrong,irreligious or apsiddhantic. While worshiping a illegal bogus guru who was voted in by a known criminal corrupt GBC is actually bonafide??? What nonsense. You stick to worshiping demons, we will stick to Prabhupada.Thanks. Hare Krishna!

[bhaktabill]

The Sri Sri Radha Damodara Deities are in Gita Nagari, Srila Prabhupada's founded farm community. Yea, teach him how to play the kartalas. You started the Sunday Feast? I thought Srila Prabhupada did. And you introduced the chanting of Hare Krishna too? What do you need Prabhupada for?