if the civil war defined america, it defined us as a bunch of idiots. european countries ended slavery before we did without civil wars. but america was so racist and still is, that 600,000 people had to die to figure this out. and guess who's hanging on to their theocratic leanings the longest?
and what spawned from this colossal idiotic war? 100 years of the ku klux klan and jim crow.
the music is too good for what went on in this country for 300 years.
The CIvil War is fascinating. It was an 18th Century War fought with 19th Century weapons. Tne first modern war and the last Napoleonic. It looked back to the days of soldiers standing in lines blasting away at each other and looked forward to trench warfare and instant communication. Fascinating, svage and necessary to make the US a nation.
Both sides were brave, both were proud. Both had their good and bad traits, and both fought for what they thought was the right thing. I salute the fallen, no matter what side they were on.
@db737 & @MrLazarus535, please refrain from this type of behavior in the future. Your selfishness and desire to "one up" each other is appalling, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, however when that expression detracts from the art of the posted video and music then it’s time to stop. Oh do bore me some more, Shelby !!!
@MrLazarus535 The fact of the matter is that I have more formal training as an historian than Mr Foote ever did. Please don't use an appeal to credentials in a conversation about a man who never went to college. I suppose my problem with Foote is that he has a real tendency to, you know, COMPLETELY IGNORE SLAVERY while painting the South as fighting against an overreaching government that threatened to deprive them of property and liberty.
@db737 The fact of the matter? where did you get your formal training? Completely ignore slavery? Have you even read one of his books? I`ve met alot of "college grads who were the dummest motherfuckers I`ve ever met.
@MrLazarus535 I've met a lot of people who can spell correctly, use proper punctuation, and employ appropriate capitalization, all without resorting to vulgarities. I think I'd prefer to have this conversation with one of them, rather than with you.
@db737 and you still didn`t answer the question, where did you get your formal training? Sorry, maybe I should have capitalized Dumb Motherfuckers" There you go, now you can sleep tonight.
@MrLazarus535 "I would fight for the Confederacy today if the circumstances were similar. There’s a great deal of misunderstanding about the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, slavery, the whole thing. The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the nineteenth century. The Confederates fought for some substantially good things." If that's not apologetics for slaveowners and traitors, I don't know what is.
@db737 Well as you're such an eminent historian, I'm sure you can appreciate the mixture of empathy,erudition and eloquence with which he expresses his ideas: flawed as they may be in your eyes.
@MrLazarus535 as for my calling Foote a "windbag," that has nothing to do with his character or his skills as a historian. It just means I find him an over-loquacious bore with a voice that puts me on an express train to Snoozeland.
@db737 Such a big word "loquaciuos" The way you write and express yourself, it just smacks of pompous ego. I bet your the kind of person who loves to hear himself talk while you wax the night poetic. It`s a wonder you can fit your head thru the door.Over-loqacious bore? It takes one to know one.
I had folks on both sides of that war - and trust that both would agree that this song captures what they felt on many ocassions. Truly inspired composing and even more inspired use in the film.
That Robert E. Lee made the biggest mistake for not accepting the offer as the Head General of the Union Army because he made Grant from a loser to the Presidency.
@Niytiy That's exactly what I said. Simply the most costly in American lives. Since when was this about only American history? A war isn't less tragic because Americans weren't fighting in it.
@Niytiy Those kind of pictures are everywhere. If you look for them you'll find them. Fewer of them were published in later wars because in the 1860s photography was a new invention and the government didn't realize how devastating they were for public support of the war. Still relatively very few people died in the civil war compared to the top 20 or so most costly wars in history. Simply the most costly in American lives. Individual battles have cost more lives than the entire civil war.
@Niytiy Are you kidding? In the scale of measurable death and suffering in wars in world history the American Civil War was a relatively minor event. Less than 1 million dead. Around 50 million in WW2 and 20 million in WW1 dead similar amounts of time the the civil war, and there are a lot of grizzly horrifying images from both. There is always ghastly mutilation, dismemberment and suffering in war.
What a beautiful piece of music. It makes me think about what must have been going through these soldier's minds during the war. I thank Jay Ungar for writing this masterpiece.
@TheEpisteme In relative terms the American Civil War surpasses most others. It is hard to think of another in which every battle was so costly and so contested, in which so many died for so little gained, and which was "fought out to the last desperate inch." Battles like the Wilderness, Spotsylvania, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor, and Fort Donelson are almost unimaginable to the modern observer. It truly was a savage war.
"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things." - Shelby Foote
if the civil war defined america, it defined us as a bunch of idiots. european countries ended slavery before we did without civil wars. but america was so racist and still is, that 600,000 people had to die to figure this out. and guess who's hanging on to their theocratic leanings the longest?
and what spawned from this colossal idiotic war? 100 years of the ku klux klan and jim crow.
the music is too good for what went on in this country for 300 years.
tomitstube 10 hours ago
im using this song as my audition piece for dollywood. Its a great piece to play!
beamer6893 1 week ago
I love this song
XMeGaSiMoNX 2 weeks ago
one of the photographs with the fallen buildings looks amazingly similar to ground zero. so sad we did this to each other
5eilat5 2 weeks ago
Just as beautiful as when I first heard in the first presentation of Burn's work on PBS.
TheJcreg 1 month ago
This song has become the National Anthem of the Civil War besides the song from Glory.
98bigbutt 3 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
The CIvil War is fascinating. It was an 18th Century War fought with 19th Century weapons. Tne first modern war and the last Napoleonic. It looked back to the days of soldiers standing in lines blasting away at each other and looked forward to trench warfare and instant communication. Fascinating, svage and necessary to make the US a nation.
bairns1234 3 months ago
Watched the civil war documentary in class, the music totally made it for me!
eurasianchica 3 months ago 2
DUDE LOL... H-LER IN THE CIVIL WAR? HE WOULDA F*CKED the south UP! OTOO BAD HE WAS RACIST FUKIN IDIOT...
SOULJABOYGWENSTEPHAN 3 months ago
@SOULJABOYGWENSTEPHAN What a Dumb Ass you are. No Home training at all
howman1 1 week ago
We watched the Civil War videos for my ninth grade class...all I remember is Shelby Foote...and Ashoken Farewell.
...god...this is bringing back so many memories...*wipes away tears*
danitonfen13 3 months ago
I'm not sure about the god bless the world but I am damn sure that I agree with the first part!! USA! USA! USA!
82ravens 3 months ago
Both sides were brave, both were proud. Both had their good and bad traits, and both fought for what they thought was the right thing. I salute the fallen, no matter what side they were on.
GOD BLESS AMERICA. GOD BLESS THE WORLD!
championofhades 3 months ago 3
@db737 & @MrLazarus535, please refrain from this type of behavior in the future. Your selfishness and desire to "one up" each other is appalling, everyone has a right to his or her opinion, however when that expression detracts from the art of the posted video and music then it’s time to stop. Oh do bore me some more, Shelby !!!
onehstrybuff 4 months ago
Get a life!
MrLazarus535 6 months ago
One of my favorite songs of that series , man am I glad I found this
kotornerd12 6 months ago
Shelby Foote was a windbag and an apologist for traitors and slaveowners.
db737 6 months ago
@db737 He was a man of great character.A historian, who was mearly giving his opinion, What are your credentials?
MrLazarus535 6 months ago
@MrLazarus535 The fact of the matter is that I have more formal training as an historian than Mr Foote ever did. Please don't use an appeal to credentials in a conversation about a man who never went to college. I suppose my problem with Foote is that he has a real tendency to, you know, COMPLETELY IGNORE SLAVERY while painting the South as fighting against an overreaching government that threatened to deprive them of property and liberty.
db737 6 months ago
@db737 The fact of the matter? where did you get your formal training? Completely ignore slavery? Have you even read one of his books? I`ve met alot of "college grads who were the dummest motherfuckers I`ve ever met.
MrLazarus535 6 months ago
@MrLazarus535 I've met a lot of people who can spell correctly, use proper punctuation, and employ appropriate capitalization, all without resorting to vulgarities. I think I'd prefer to have this conversation with one of them, rather than with you.
db737 6 months ago
@db737 and you still didn`t answer the question, where did you get your formal training? Sorry, maybe I should have capitalized Dumb Motherfuckers" There you go, now you can sleep tonight.
MrLazarus535 6 months ago
@MrLazarus535 "I would fight for the Confederacy today if the circumstances were similar. There’s a great deal of misunderstanding about the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, slavery, the whole thing. The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the nineteenth century. The Confederates fought for some substantially good things." If that's not apologetics for slaveowners and traitors, I don't know what is.
db737 6 months ago
@db737 Mr Foote never claimed to be a historian. Slavery was never an issue in the Civil War until mid 1862. But want has this to do with the music?
btdave100 6 months ago
@db737 Well as you're such an eminent historian, I'm sure you can appreciate the mixture of empathy,erudition and eloquence with which he expresses his ideas: flawed as they may be in your eyes.
Snortthesweetener 2 months ago
@Snortthesweetener Yeah, he was a really pretty talker. I'll give him that.
db737 2 months ago
@MrLazarus535 the real irony, of course, is that the property in question was slaves, and the liberty in question was the liberty to own slaves.
db737 6 months ago
@MrLazarus535 as for my calling Foote a "windbag," that has nothing to do with his character or his skills as a historian. It just means I find him an over-loquacious bore with a voice that puts me on an express train to Snoozeland.
db737 6 months ago
@db737 Such a big word "loquaciuos" The way you write and express yourself, it just smacks of pompous ego. I bet your the kind of person who loves to hear himself talk while you wax the night poetic. It`s a wonder you can fit your head thru the door.Over-loqacious bore? It takes one to know one.
MrLazarus535 6 months ago
Fits beautifully...
TrevorMcBever2596 6 months ago
I had folks on both sides of that war - and trust that both would agree that this song captures what they felt on many ocassions. Truly inspired composing and even more inspired use in the film.
FrTomNaturalist 7 months ago
That Robert E. Lee made the biggest mistake for not accepting the offer as the Head General of the Union Army because he made Grant from a loser to the Presidency.
98bigbutt 7 months ago
This is the perfect song for the Civil War. Ken Burns is a genius.
98bigbutt 7 months ago
I love this video.
Chicagoan444 7 months ago
+1 to Shelby Foote. I hope to meet and converse with him on the next level.
darner123 7 months ago 3
@Niytiy That's exactly what I said. Simply the most costly in American lives. Since when was this about only American history? A war isn't less tragic because Americans weren't fighting in it.
TheEpisteme 7 months ago
@Niytiy Those kind of pictures are everywhere. If you look for them you'll find them. Fewer of them were published in later wars because in the 1860s photography was a new invention and the government didn't realize how devastating they were for public support of the war. Still relatively very few people died in the civil war compared to the top 20 or so most costly wars in history. Simply the most costly in American lives. Individual battles have cost more lives than the entire civil war.
TheEpisteme 7 months ago
@Niytiy Are you kidding? In the scale of measurable death and suffering in wars in world history the American Civil War was a relatively minor event. Less than 1 million dead. Around 50 million in WW2 and 20 million in WW1 dead similar amounts of time the the civil war, and there are a lot of grizzly horrifying images from both. There is always ghastly mutilation, dismemberment and suffering in war.
TheEpisteme 7 months ago
What a beautiful piece of music. It makes me think about what must have been going through these soldier's minds during the war. I thank Jay Ungar for writing this masterpiece.
RecoveringRelics 8 months ago
@Niytiy Was the there ever a war that wasn't?
TheEpisteme 8 months ago
@TheEpisteme In relative terms the American Civil War surpasses most others. It is hard to think of another in which every battle was so costly and so contested, in which so many died for so little gained, and which was "fought out to the last desperate inch." Battles like the Wilderness, Spotsylvania, Gettysburg, Cold Harbor, and Fort Donelson are almost unimaginable to the modern observer. It truly was a savage war.
relliotk 8 months ago
"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. I believe that firmly. It defined us. The Revolution did what it did. Our involvement in European wars, beginning with the First World War, did what it did. But the Civil War defined us as what we are and it opened us to being what we became, good and bad things." - Shelby Foote
RKingFaraday 8 months ago 38
@RKingFaraday Shelby Foote was a King among men. What a hero. I was very sad on his death.
edwardgbell 8 months ago 16
@edwardgbell amen.
badgrfan 5 months ago
@edwardgbell He did really well in the Ken Burns series.
Inari1987 3 months ago
@RKingFaraday Yes, Yes - anyone who has watched the civil war series once, maybe twice knows : Ken Burns / Shelby Foote - shear genius!
RadCelt 5 months ago