INS Tutorial Part1

[signmanbob2]

You should mention that a common problem is that people will expect the INSERT key light to go out after putting in the N co-ordinate so they will press the button twice to make it go out, then they cannot enter the W co-ordinate.

The INSERT light will NOT go out after you enter the N co-ordinate, so just press it only ONCE, leave it lighted, then enter the W co-ordinate..then press INSERT again and the light will go out and the co-ordinate will be properly entered. I found out the hard way.

[altonmiranda49]

This is a "prickly" video. =p

[1919amunt]

i've got a question, what do you do to insert a sid because with an fmc sistem it's easy but with ins it isn't

[vkn128]

very very nice, informative n' simple....May I req for some tutorial for Cocorde...?

[nck5000]

need the config flies for it the civa ins config for the cls 2 aerosim good video

[fs9blogdotcom]

I've linked the 4 part tutorial in an article about the CS707 since there are some nuances between that and the L-1011. Check fs9blog dot com for more details.

[scotplane]

Just a quick note to you @blub77, Captain sim have linked to this video in their 707 manual. Great tutorial btw.

[MegaAmarchana123]

is this fsx???? please reply 

[CaptainFlybe]

Hi, Would it be possible for you to translate this Flight Plan into propper INS Co-ordinates so i can upload them straight to my Concorde INS, as i am a little confused how to upload the shorter waypoints to the INS, Thanks in Advance

[CaptainFlybe]

@CaptainFlybe

Heathrow – New York

(FPL-BAW1-IS

-CONC/H-SRWXY/C

-EGLL1730

-N0563F280 CPT L9 MALBY DCT C/UPGAS/N0740F280F430 SL2 MERLY SL2 LESLU SL2 C/5041N01500W/M200F450PLUS NATSM 4700N05000W 4246N06500W 42N067W SM2A KENDA/M100F490 DCT LINND DCT OWENZ DCT CAMRN DCT

-KJFK0328 KEWR

-EET/EGGX0046 20W0058 30W0118 40W0139 50W0202 53W0209 60W0226 65W0239 67W0245 KENDA0258 LINND0303 OWENZ0310 CAMRN0318 REG/GBOAG SEL/BHFJ RMK/TCASEQUIPPED DOF/031023 IFP/RVSMVIOLATION ORGN/EGLLBAWD)

[cmjetzz]

Exorcist..yeah!!

[HBK2476]

what kind of screen recorder u are using????



[funfrmekik]

thnx sir, this helps me alot as a ATPL student good luck 2 u...

[killmuster]

hi ... very nice tutorial .... do you have a PPL ... I saw your channel full with cessna's videos

[blub77]

@killmuster

Yes, I did my PPL in 2008 - since then I more or less stopped Flight Simulation.

[killmuster]

@blub77

nice .... for me .. Im only 14 .. hoping to become a pilot soon ... I couldent wait until I be a pilot ... so I began studying privatly ... parts of the PPL-FAA .. importment things like detonation and sectional charts + flight planning .. things like MH+RB=MB .... but I puted my lights on in the CPL more than the PPL ..I almost compleat the CPL now from books ....... and readed 5 chapters from the JAA ATPL Intermentations and electronics book ... so what do you really advice me to do ?

[TheStartARiot]

Well I tried to follow these steps but for some reason I cannot enter the longtitude position at the beginning, it just puts latitude in and then when clicking E or W does not light up the insert key.....

[hnkmg12345]

dsrtk/sts

abrivation of desire track and the INS satuse

[abutlal123]

fawii@

You can see in chart more position for all gates you know your pos from your gate :)

[Mr99Padda]

thumbs up if you got here by meloechers!!

[TheHedgehogPilot]

I bought concorde x for fsx and it has INS built up in it, I don't know the waypoints and since the date of purchase, I am unable to navigate it.

[evsynator]

would be a lot better without all the ums and ers.

[jordangmagic]

@evsynator I don't think that English is his firsy language, if so.... it's very good

[evsynator]

@jordangmagic ... no its not .

[fenn3r]

Robert Miles - Tubular bells.

[lmlove80]

Does anyone know the name of the tune at the start of the video?

[fawii]

how real pilots know there pos?

[blub77]

@fawii

it is written on charts, and you can read the positions from each gate, they are written there

[fawii]

@blub77 Thank you for your help

but these informations are old, new planes don't use numbers, infact they use there new FMC, is this facility avalable today in real airports? and how could real pilots know the pos of waypoints without knowing it's name?

[ryanair737400]

@fawii but now most commercial aircraft also have ins but the name is different and it is much more modernised the system is called a FMC (Flight. Management. Computer)

[natalliawow]

Can this gauge work on FSX?

[TheFSXBoy]

is this a 747???

[blub77]

@TheFSXBoy

It's a Lockheed L1011 Tristar

[luimp3]

where u get that plane?

give me the link please!!!!!!!

[blub77]

@luimp3

Tristart Model is from Aerosim, Panel is from Avsim, using Aerosim Gauges + Some own modifications

[killmuster]

@blub77

can you upload the panel and gauges because I wanna download it if you don't mind

[Flyglobespan93]

The tinmouse 737-200 only has one INS, Is that ok or does it have to have 3?

[tahrqa]

This tutorial is great. I spend hours trying to learn how to use the INS, read lots of PDFs and practiced allot to understand how to use it. I wish I had found this tutorial earlier. I am now using the INS without problems, but judging on my experience I REALLY RECOMMEND THIS TUTORIAL TO OTHERS, especially beginners.

Thanks for sharing it.

[niteshmurti]

I'd really appreciate it if someone could please name the song in the beginning :)

[Dmetrey437]

Why would you need 3 of these systems?

[blub77]

@Dmetrey437

crosschecking/precission/redun­dancy

[Ace250TreasureFinder]

RE: "you should always use HDG mode" (Fabo0315 @A319CROATIA)

---------------

HDG stands for Heading (only): it is not a true navigation mode, but is of some value to aid in dead reckoning. If you select HDG mode, you lose ALL of your coordinate precision, and you can't get it back with TACAN: you have to start over from a full stop.

[Ace250TreasureFinder]

DSTRK/STS means Desired Track / Status

C-IV allows in-flight TACAN update of position, which may improve accuracy; however, as with all inertial systems, the C-IV is subject to degradation of precision relative to how long the unit has been in the Nav mode.

The system is heavily mechanical, but reasonably well thought-out and engineered.

[ymanganelli]

love it how it starts.. i remember when i first saw the nav from a soviet Il-62m "magic?" was my first questio. Nice vid.. ciao

[A319CROATIA]

how do you update AIRAC for this ????

[blub77]

@A319CROATIA

There is no AIRAC. It's a system independet of such changes. You just programm in LAT/LONG Coordinates of Wapoints.

[A319CROATIA]

@blub77 thanks for fast reply and information, but just one thing. I done everithing you showed in tutorial but my aircraft is nit going to a waypoint as itt should be going. He manage turn inbound waypoint but not going in right direction to it, when i want to change direct to another waypoint he also make turn but not on proper heading to it. I fly on dreamfleet 727 and delco carousel INS version 1.51

[Fabo0315]

@A319CROATIA You should normally use HDG mode and set the INS NAV switches to UP on whichever unit you want to use. I use INS with DF727 all the time and it works great. Drop me a message and I can go through it with you.

[636555530]

Very good

[SuperPatchman]

FMC FTW ^^

[CactusFire]

The model selector on DSRTK/STS is for "Desired Track/System Status"

[ADR393]

I want an INS like that, too. Is that one of your improvemnts or is it a panel where you can download it from somewhere?

[rjhonert]

You use the Aerosim L1011 for this right? Because the native INS is crap. Could you send me the placement file for the INS in the Aerosim L1011?

[dem0npain]

what's that music in starting?

[Marmalade624]

Concorde?

[Marmalade624]

Please help, Blub77, i went to heathrow at runway 9L or R and i got N51 27.89, and theres not enough room on the screen for it, and for the W i got W029.15. Pleasee reply!

[benfalas]

Which airvcraft did you use for this video?

[alfaq2marow]

In Fs9 the format is N00* 00.00 and W00*0.00 how do you enter this into the ins N42* 21.27 W71*0.62 for example?

[alfaq2marow]

In Fs9 the format is N00* 00.00 and W00*0.00 how do you enter this into the ins N42* 21.27 W71*0.62

[alfaq2marow]

I dont get he says enter N bla bla W 113 34.9 but where did the 9 come his shows 2 numbers at the end what he did round it up

[blub77]

I took the Position from the FS2004. It displays the current position of the Aircraft when pushing Shift+Z. This differs a bit from the Position of the Airport which is written on the right side in the video discription..

[ozons]

damn, the avsim is dead now, does anyone know where i can get this panel mod now?

[Patrickisreallygreat]

Can you send me the modifications you made to your panel or post them to AVSIM?

[BEARDEDMUSCLE]

please can anyone send me instructions on how to install the civa guage,im not to good at moving files around

[Seaman20]

could you please send your panel.cfg for ins instal?

[akai2051]

I have CIVA running now in my Tinmouse 737-200. Thanks for the good work and explanations!

[hakimihomayoon]

where do you get way point info from? On my nav log I only see the names, no Lat and lon are desplayed.

Thanks

[Gozza34]

In case no one has posted this...the red warning light comes on during align because the INS has been moved from its last position when the sim was running. Realism. If you start the sim from the position you finished it from last, you will not get the warning. How many of you knew that??

;o)

[tahrqa]

@Gozza34 I did. I read something about this in some other tutorials/documentation (don't really remember).

It happened to me once, that saving the game with the plane at the ramp. After continuing the game some other day, I hat a deviation of 10 minutes in the longitude. Only on the INS1 - INS2 and INS3 where on the current position. I am not sure however, how that INS1 jumped 10 minutes to the North. I didn't care much, because I used INS2 for Nav. But the Issue Itself intrigued me.

[packers525]

Fantastic Tutorial, thank you.

[jsd23]

In the current version, the CIVA INS 'tolerates' slight forward movement, so you CAN align it with engines on.

[OriginalAtomicSheep]

What game is this?

[blub77]

Microsoft Flightsimulator 2004

[AirDude1213]

Which addon aircraft?

[AirDude1213]

Which addon aircraft?

[rjhonert]

Yeah.... which addon aircraft?

[objordal]

dc-10 I think.

[objordal]

dc-10 I think

[AirbusAaron]

Negative, its a Lockheed L1011 Tristar. Looks like the OmWings model.

[blub77]

it's the Aerosim L1011 Model with a panel-mod from avsim and some further improvements from myself

[darian5]

Ahh yes I will definitively be installing this panel mod. Awesome tutorial, I was wondering were there any mods to the Aerosim model.

[JG28Schmidt]

Hi,

Very good tutorial grats thanks.

the song of begining the viedo whats that??? really good music.

sry for my bad english german boy

[dalborgaoncrack]

"The power of Christ compells you!" ...sorry couldn't resist :D Pretty cool tutorial! Thanks for it.

[75sevenA330]

what L1011 model is this, I really dig the click spots and all

[derekkblo]

GREAT JOB....

You solved one of my doubtsssss...

thanks a lot for sharing your knowlage...

i LOVE old style Nav System...

i am studing INS...My Father Flew INS in Varig DC-10...but he dont explain to me...he lives Far away...

thanks a lot

=D