@NOVATICANWARS Thank you. The SNP just wants to rewrite History with Mel Gibson as their editor. The Jacobite uprisings were Civil wars and Scotland did most of the bleeding all the way around for the Stuart cause, which was not about freeing Scotland, it was about who would sit on the throne of Britain and who would be in charge. Even if Charlie had won, it would have ended up that eventually the people, through Parliament would have rose against the Stuarts again. Absolute rule wasn't wanted
@hitmann2300 we all know that it wont stop the separatists from claiming it was a Scots v English thing,It does bug me when some sepratist or other starts to ramble on about "Butcher Cumberland". if Charlies boys wld have got the upper hand, am sure it wld have been a case of same same ,Brutal times indeed.
@NOVATICANWARS - could u be any less unionist/hannovarian royalist if you tried? i suspect your from "ulster" to have what your youtube name is. If you really are Scottish show a bit of respect for a sad chapter in Scottish history. & rap it with your "separatist" patter, it can be viewed metaphoricly as scotland vs england as one side flew the saltire, whilst the other had the union jack. The jacobites fought for the king of scottish royal blood.
@Steely1888 Dont gee me any of your fkn shite you arsehole . I can trace my Scottish ancesrty back over a thousand years Am a proud Scots man and a proud protestant. What the fuck are you? Irish .not Scottish! Ya Hitler loving Nazi bastard, who the fk are you trying to kid . And dont talk shite Culloden wasnt Scots v English ya fkn clown!
@NOVATICANWARS - how am i irish and a nazi? im part irish and part scottish u tit. I never said it was a religious war, although for hannovarians it pretty much was to keep a presbyterian crown. Jacobites fought for the scottish clan system, for scotland (the opposed the union of PARLIAMENTS) and for THEIR rightful king, as they swore allegiance to the stewarts and became apart of scotland cause of it. That was their allegiances, and they never broke it. That loyalty should be honoured
@NOVATICANWARS - LOL "hitler loving nazi bastard" the only british achievement im proud of is WW2, your probably unionist cause of WW2? lol, even though thats when britain being powerful went in a massive decline after it. Answer me, are you a "ulster" loyalist? listen to the hatred in you, i refuse to accept your "Christian", your a bigot, youd be much happier on a video concerning 1690 wouldnt you
@NOVATICANWARS - if you had any decency you would show a bit of respect/sympathy to the attrocities Cumberland carried out that day. But the truth of it is you are a big fan of his, and proud of the lives he took that day (not just from the battlefield)
@Steely1888 IT WASNT SCOTS V ENGLISH . IT WAS REALY THE BRITISH CIVIL WARAS you should know the 2 kings ., Prince Charlie and King george were fighiting for the throne of Great Britian. If Charlie and the Jacobites wld have won Charlie wld have becamr KING OF BRITIAN! i,ve made it simple so you can follow it. Their weresoldiers of ALL Christian faiths on each side. I KNOW How much YOU wld have wanted it to be An english v scots thing,BUT it WASNT wasnt a prod v catholic thing.You seem mixed up .
What really splits my sides is that some (sepratists)S.n.p. and the like. brigadoon fools that make someof the silly vids on here have tried to portray the conflict as Scotland v England! the Battle by oNE"KING" agist another KING . THe battle for the BRTISH crown.......but then agian they,ll cling to anything,any fairy story,any myth any auld"shortbreadtin" nonsense to turn the clock back
THE REAL scots were with the goverment IN the BRITISH CIVIL WAR some clans side with the CATHOLIC STUARTS some with the GOVERMENT ALLof LOWland scotland was on the goverment side
@NOVATICANWARS Again, just like I tell the Scottish Nationalists that come here, THIS IS NOT a POLITICAL video!
REAL SCOTS FOUGHT ON BOTH SIDES.
And while MOST Lowland Scots sided with the Government, there were several Lowland Scots Regiments with the Highland Army. You must remember, Perth, Dundee and Aberdeen are not considered to be in the "Highlands" Lord George Murray was not a Highlander. He was a Lowlander. The County of Perthshire is split by the borders between Highlands & Lowlands,
@hitmann2300 - thank you for your information, i can see your pretty anti jacobite but atleast you dont blurt out total anti jacobite lies. I know your anti SNP (SNP are hardly jacobites they are pretty royalist) please tell me why they want to "re-write history with mel gibson as their leader" When the SNP want scotland to go back to the way it was before union of parliaments which was dealed by corrupt politicions? other than that your information is spot on
@Steely1888 I had family on both sides of the lines at Culloden. Most "Jacobites" were simply clansmen who owed everything to their Chiefs, many fought first for them, not for Charles, or the Stuart cause. and you are very wrong, the very reason they were called "Jacobites" iis that they supported the Stuart kings (Jacobus, being the Latin for James"). Those Clans that supported the Stuarts were mostly Catholics or Episcopalians, which in turn made the conflict a religious one as well....
@Chuckles2979 - well the scots who fought for the redcoats done it out of hardly reasons for paticularly the hannovarian cause. The blackwatch swore loyalty to the hannovarian crown when they became soldiers, and the 2 clans who fought for the redcoats (campbell and munroe) done it basicly cause thats the flaw about we our clan system. Enemies of certain clans will fight for their enemies.
@hitmann2300 - im a jacobite sympathizer, the clan within my family is MacLean who fought at the front line and lead the charge. So cards on the table there. Also "Novaticanwars" the Jacobites opposed the union of parliaments, not the union of crowns so please get your facts straight. I personally see the expiditon as a sad chapter in scottish history. Charlie was a weak king, all Jacobite errors were his (gambling at culloden) dispite his commander refusing.
@Steely1888 As far as being anti-Jacobite, I am proud of the two ancestors who died with the clans, but their cause was a stupid one. The Stuarts were arrogant twits, who wanted the "Rightful absolute power of the Crown." Really the Jacobite uprisings were more of a continuation of the Conflict that raged 100 years earlier in the English Civil War.and earlier conflicts over the question of the rights of the common man vs the absolute Rule of a King. At the end of the day, the Right side won.
@Chuckles2979 - Im not much of a monarchist but i believe the Stewarts had much more of a claim to that throne that people from mainland europe. I dont reguard it as a religious war, its not as if the Stewarts had won everybody would be catholic or episcoplian. Idiots (bigots) like "novaticanwars" cherrishes the thought of it being a "religious war". There were presbyterian Jacobites so i dont accept that
@Steely1888 Your the bigot, your a fascist Nazi Protestant hating IGNORAMUS.Its you that cherishes the thought of it being a religious war , and your nose isout of joint because whom you percive as the "right" side LOST.Dont everthink that cther people dont know where the likes of you are coming from. Your real heroes regard everyone else as "heretics",they were responsible for the rise of fascisim, the Holocaust and both World wars,Their the biggest landowners and Capitalists in the world1 Who?
@NOVATICANWARS - "fascist nazi protestant hating IGNARAMUS"? please back up your accusations? how am i nazi for a start? and how am i protestant hating? protestants did fight for Charlie, which was me saying it wasnt a religious war, atleast not from a Jacobite perspective, but i can fair guess why your a hannovarian supporter. Im not protestant hating, they are fellow Christians. I can well tell your a ulster loyalist to come out with such shite patter, idiotic theories
@NOVATICANWARS - how am i "nazi" wen i said the only british achievement im proud of is WORLD WAR TWO which would mean when the nazis lost! u retard. You are not Christian, your so retarded, your an atheist bigot who attatches himself to a christian branch, and dishes out hatred. Your like a ian paisley, you claim to be a man of the church yet your a war mongering scumbag. You watch this video dancing about the bold Heilin men who went down that day
Im watching this video cause a part of my ancestry goes back to this period. Why are you watching it? for some stupid loyalist bigoted agenda? i bet you even think the jacobite rebellion was a "vatican war" LMAO. anyway please keep your bigotry out of scotland, ulster loyalists who came to scotland brought over the orange order, and sectarian marches, do you support glasgow rangers by any chance wee man?
@NOVATICANWARS - iv went on your page and you associate with people who say "bomb the vatican", it all makes sence now that your not Christian, you should try out islam mate, suits you to the core
@Steely1888 That was a post(not by me)True Christianity Catholic and Protestant is a force for good. Your heroes ,the Sepratists, the so called scottish "national"partyFREED a mass murderer for a handful of Muslim votes, They court every tom ,dick n harry, promise everything to everyone ,to get votes, to divide the people of our Nation.
@NOVATICANWARS - listen im not gonna argue with you about religion as i dont hate protestants. All countries are getting waves of immigration, that will bring about a one world government in which the Bible predicts. Yes i am a "seperatist" as i can acknowledge the union with scotland and england was done by corrupt politicions, we were bought over, and there were several protests and before we could take the protests any further, a war concerning the monarchy diveded scotland.
@Steely1888 An ah hid a look at YOUR page! " Fuck the Ulster Scots" you say,!!Its all Irish, provo supportin Bigotry,Rangers badges with Swastikas superimposed. Your a Protestant Hating, anti semiticIrish Fascist. You .and people like you were destroyed in 1945, but your fascist ideolgy wasnt. Youz hide behind things like "Scottish" nationalisim. The "palestinians" Funny how yu want to "Unite" Ireland... But to DIVIDE BRITIAN!pEOPLE like you HATE the Scottish people.because we got rid of rome,
@NOVATICANWARS - yes, people waving a northern ireland flag in scotland are vermin. How is me hating rangers got to do with hating "protestants" LOL, i hate rangers to the extent they are a rival club, and i dont like their politics much either. How is me hating rangers making me a nazi? rangers fans went to israel doing nazi salutes LOL. You must be a "ulster-scot" to be offended by that. Not all of scotland are rangers fans.... have u ever been here LOL
My Family history is linked to the Scottish highlanders, Two family names Fletcher,and Boles. we left for america where we were again subjegated by the British, German George and his like murdered thousands! We settled in the Mohawk valley of New York where 4/5 of the population was wiped out by Indian and British troops under Barry St. Leger and Sir. John Johnson They were first beat in the Battle of Oriskany, the true turning point of the Revolution. Many a Scott died here on both sides
A brutal bloody business but the right side won. The Young Pretender was an arch reactionary who would have imposed an absolutist political and religious system on the UK. hence MORE Scots fought for King George than for the "damned Italian coward".
I come from near where "Last of the Mohicans" takes place, and it was extraordinary to hear "Promontory" played with bagpipes instead of fiddles and the mountains of upstate New York replaced with the Highlands. Ten years ago I was fortunate enough to visit Culloden, and your video reminds of how awe-struck I was when I first saw Drummossie. Thanks for uploading this.
@Ilydionysos Sorry I missed this. Thank you so much for the kind words. Yes, I made these vids as an expression of a Story I am writing and sadly at the time, Mel Gibson, actually it was the actress that played the queen, had me using Mel to represent the main character in my story. My later vids do a better job as I got away from using Mel :) But that picture of him holding that flag matches a scene I have visualized for a scene during the battle of Culloden :)
Culloden Moor, one of the last battles in the War of the Austrian Succession, had English and French piling in on opposing sides of the on-and-off Scots' civil war. England had recalled an entire army from France (where the Black Watch was distinguished for their rear-guard tactics against French cavalry at Fontenoy) to stop the Jacobites, whom France supported rather poorly.
I am of Scottish heritage and play the pipes and Culloden was fought on my birthday I praise the brave scots who fought and remember them I am a Mackay and Munro we fought bravely love live the pipes and the pipers
I am trying to locate a copy of this music in cd or mp3 form for my mother's. It was her wish to have this and amazing grace on bagpipes played. Could you please help me by telling me where I could find this particular version.
The original text of the 1747 proscription is to be found in Internet. All "know" that bagpipes are forbidden by that act. So nobody checks. A totally different sample? All "know" the 10 commendments. Many think one is: " you shall not kill", the original translates murder. Please friends, check the contemporary sources , don't trust later written books. Don't trust me either, but do me the favour, read the sources, books are no sources at all!
The campbells, traitors who throughly enjoyed ethnic cleansing their own kind and for who the english are eternally gratefull to keep the real 'pretenders' on the throne the illegitment german mongrels from hanover. Charlie was too good for them, compare to king georges favourite son. And lets not forget the aftermath, exile, and executions many years later as many as 40,000 by the british army. Banning Gaelic, kilts, bagpipes and arms.
And where was Charlie while his loyal followers suffered? Oh Yeah, He was living La Vida Loca in Italy, partying hard, pimping! He was a wife abuser, and died a drunk. None of the Jacobite successes in the campaign were from any brilliance on his part, Lord Murray deserves the credit there. And the one time that Charles made a decision on conducting battle was, Oh yeah........ Culloden moor!
Ya really need to get your facts straight and stop getting your history from the Telly
And where did Charlie get the money to live so well in Italy? He got it from those loyal Highlanders who were suffering all in the hope that he would come back with a mercenary army and save them.
But, Charlie never bothered to save any moeny to go back to Scotland, He just Lived it large in Italy.
What ethnic cleansing? ALL clan chiefs, Whig or Jacobites alike, exchanged useless feudal warriors for sheep. (All J. Lords got the land back) There was never a ban on bagpipes, have a look in the LAWS, not 19th cent. romantic books. And the Kilt was forbidden for landless only, not for landowners. Any Scottish Gentleman could wear the kilt, not only soldiers. To call the campbells and many others "traitors" is stupid. Since Queen Anne Scots are British subjects, and she was a 100% Stuart!
No, there are some issues he has right, Kilts and Bagpipes were OUTLAWED for many years, it was Sir Walter Scott that worked at getting the ban lifted. However, Scottish regiments raised for the crown could wear the kilt, and play the pipes, which was fantastic for recruitment, along with the heavy competition for civilian jobs as the Clan Chiefs betrayed their clansmen for Gold as they got sold on the idea of herding masses of sheep for the growing textile industry in the Lowlands.
Did you know? It is still a law in the books that Bagpipes may not be brought to the Houses of Parliament without special permission! Bagpipes are still classified as a WEAPON.
The word of the "Instrument of war " is a citation of a judge who sentenced a piper who was out in 45 and claimed not guilty, being a musician, not fighter. He was treated like a drummer. All other trials of pipers, that are documented, are also connected with being out in 45, not piping itself. Someone understood it wrong and started to spread the story. All repeat it. The same with Kilts, few bother to read the old law. There is an exception for all landowners, realy, trust me - or check.
@crematio - You need to read up in your history , I suggest reading John Prebble's "Culloden". "Butcher" Cumberland could not have won without the traitor Campbell's .
@AlbaSiar Following the retreat from London it was only a question of time that the Jacobites would be crushed. Just compare numbers. Apart from the Campbells many other Scottish disliked the Stuarts. How many came out in 1745? Well, the Government's Highlanders did most of the raping and burning. Old Clan feuds, no modern politics caused a lot of the peasants harm. But the "traitors", they paved the way for Victoria's mighty UK. With Scotsmen in highest positions. And today? A Cameron !!!
@crematio - Having routed the Redcoats at Prestonpans and Falkirk , and having rode his luck from the day he landed it is reasonable to suggest 'one more push' into London could have been successful given that the French fleet was assembled in Normandy, and George 1, had already made arrangements to return to Hanover. If the Clansman had united, NO army could have defeated them and there would have been no Culloden , Clearances ,Anglicization , cultural and political hegemony.
@AlbaSiar Sorry, but Prestonspans was a skirmish against 3 Inf Rgts +600 Drag (mostly new Recruits) and Falkirk no Scottish victory. Only 12 Officers and 55 OR killed! (Against 50 killed Jacobites) 280 missing but 170 of them back next day. Without the FRENCH Irish and Ecossais which saved the day it would have been a Scottish disaster. And the Hannover story, nuts. London was fortified and a big army collected. No Stuart support in England and that was the premise for the French invasion.
@crematio - At Prestonpans, 300 Redcoats dead , 500 wounded ,1500 surrendered including 80 officers . "(..)the well equipped regular force of Cope's redcoats had been utterly routed by (..) Scotch Highlanders" - The London Government view of Prestonpans. The redcoats ran or surrendered in the face of the Highland charge and Gen. Cope narrowly survived a court marshal - I doubt if the London softies would have offered any greater resistance against 5-10,000 battle hardened Clansmen .
@AlbaSiar The original daily Inf. OOB for Prestonpans is still existing: 55th 291, 57th 580, 58th 570 43rd and 64th together 183. Dragoons ca.650. 2300 Men all together. Few had more than 4 months training (1 salvoe only), just ca. 300 had some campaign experience. Most cavalry and some infantry escaped. Well equiped? 1 RA Officer but no RA crew for the 1,5 IB toy guns and 4 Coehorns. Please use orig. sources, not books. Ca. 150 dead, some of them murdered in cold blood post capitulation.
Alot of your exile and and the "Cleansing" of the Highlands in forcibly moving out many families from the western highlands and the Great Glen was actually done by Clan Chieftains themselves, who were the owners of the property. They sold out their clansmen in exchange for the money to be made in the wool trade by using the land for sheep.
It wasnt just Campbells that sided with the government, Gordons, Grants, Sinclairs, the Munros, Ross, Mackay, MacLeod, to name most were with the Parliament
@year1314 I'd rather have a bunch of German mongrels as monarchs than an autocratic dictator. If BPC had ever managed to take London and oust the Hannovers, then Britain would be a republic by now, as BPC in 1746 would have been even less popular than Charles I in the 1640's.
American "Scots" Some years ago I met one who was proud that his ancestors fought at Culloden. I asked for details, he had none apart his clan name. He was a Campbell! His face got very long after I informed about the role of this clan. And todays "Scottish" culture? In fact most is Highland, caused by the clearings that forced them South or abroad. In 1745 more than half of Scots had been Lowlanders, who despised the mountain brothers. Their unique culture got lost in the following mix.
I guess you did not read my channel comments, I may live in America, but I was Born in Scotland. So I do know my History on the subject!
Also, while you are correct that most Campbells fought for the Government side, there were a few Campbells, notably from the Auchnabreck area, who were Jacobites, in fact, their Chief had been arrested by Campbell of Argyll before he could fully raise his clan in support of Charlie
You might, but many many not. This guy simply thought that "the" Scots fought the English at Culloden. Many British Regiments (like the Royals) had been entirely recruited in Scotland, and even most "English" ones included a proportion of Scotsmen. The misinterpretation of the STUART war as a national uprising is widespread. 19th/20th century nationalism still dominates the thinking. In18th century family, private interests or personal loyality was decisive, not an abstract national idea.
LOL Yes!! Exactly why I say in my channel statement that..
"While I appreciate comments, NONE of these videos were made as expressions of Scottish Nationalism, or anti British or English. They just have to do with the time period, the music, and my book!!! :) Im a Brit!! Born to an English Father and Scottish Mother, in Scotland"
Too many "REAL" Scots think Charlie was a wonderful guy, fighting for Scottish Independance, they also forget that there were English and also Welsh Jacobites.
So right. By the way, I like your work on YT. With your Crawford's Regiment. video you show your respect for the Jacobites but never fell into the nationalistic trap. Many Jacobites prisoners claimed that they had been forced to join and judges acceptet it, setting them free.(Like the Royal Ecossais and Irish) They owed feudal military service to the chief in exchange for land. He decided to fight - or not. They got no "king's shilling" in 1745, but in fact took it long before in form of land.
The United States has long supported Scotland and many Scots who fled Scotland were influential in the birth of the United States. Even today, Scottish heritage and her right to self rule is recognized not only by those claiming Scottish ancestry but by the U.S. government in some chambers. Ties that bind cannot be ignored.
This is true hitmann2300, Scottish blood lines are mingled with those of others who have come to Scotia at one time or another but that too has little to do with the fact that the Scots must remain united as a people and that includes those who claim Scottish ancestry abroad. It is reckoned that there are as many as 50 million people around the globe who claim Scottish ancestry. Of that number, 9,209,813 resided in the United States and that is based on a 2000 census.
Petty bickering about who is more Scottish because of geography is worthless tripe that separates us as people with a common bond. Don't fall prey to that sort of nonsense and feed it. Fight it and understand that we over here in Canada and the United States who are proud of our Scottish heritage honor and pay due reverence to those from which we have come. Cuimhnich air na daoine o'n d'thaining thu
Thanks for the support, Sadly, Melodeon can no longer answer you since I blocked him. In private notes to me he borders on being an outright racist. He doesnt even view Lowlanders, (Those living in Edinburgh or Glasgow.) as Scottish! Sadly he isnt the only Scot with these strange views about those Scots who live abroad. He actually tried to claim some sort of "Racial Purity" Yet is a MacDonald, and as any MacDonald clansman will tell ya, They have Viking blood in their veins as well as Scots!
Those same Highland people who fled the clearings and the failure of the clan system brought a piece of Scotland with them that many Scots themselves have forgotten. Perhaps it is those like yourself who secretly wish that what we have preserved from our forefathers was still yours. It can be because Scots are Scots no matter where you live or how you choose to honor your heritage. Together, united, we are strong. Divided we let those who seek control over us to rule.
To MelodeonJohn I can only say this-Americans who claim Scottish ancestry and therefore are proud of Scotland and her people know enough about Scotlands history to realize that it isn't about tartans or plaids or shortbread tins. It is about having in us the same spirit that brought those from whom we came to a new land to start a new life. It is a proud spirit of a proud people who despite the best efforts of outside influences continued and thrived.
What would an American know about Scotlands history other than what he had read from a book written by an englishman no doubt, Americans have a tartan tin of shortbread with th their grannys pic and thats them Scots
The typical argument of the ignorant, when you cant back up your shite, you turn to abuse. I was born in Rutherglen. My family still love in Motherwell, Inverness, and Glasgow. Besides you silly cunt, you just stated earlier that you live in Scotland and never learned your history. So maybe it takes someone outside the box as it were to teach it to you! Please do Scotland a favour and keep your tripe to yourself, because you as a representative makes true Scots look ignorant!
Thats the pot calling kettle black using abusive language I didnt call you any foul words, I did once read thats lack of words or is that you americanised now.
No, you just stated what most ignorant bastards like you come out with when you cant back up any of your silly statements. You either claim that because a person is living abroad that they cant be Scots! Or that because they dont support your views, they must not be Scots. Unlike yourself, I actually got an education and know my country's history. Now if you cant bring up any FACTS to back your silly beliefs I suggest you stick to whatever drugs your takin and your music and leave it there.
Of course they didnt kill anyone in Edinburgh they are all anglo there ,saying they killed all way back to Edinburgh is a mode of speech by real scots,The English wanted to wipe out the Clan system , They arent all named Smith after you leave Stirling.
No, it is an ignorant remark and a mode of speech used by the retarded! In the end, progress and Greed killed the Clan system. The Clan chiefs themselves were as much to blame as any "Englishman" Charlie's war was a civil war He never had the full support of Scotland, not even by half! But you go on ahead and believe the crap the SNP are feeding to you! If they have their way, in the end you wont even be able to say your Scottish. You will be a state within a United States of Europe! Enjoy it!
I HATE!! the english royalty,Duke of Cumberland won his Battle at Culloden but he didnt need to kill men women and children that werent in the battle, all the way back to Edinburgh,He was committing Genocide in Scotland,The English King wanted all Scots who wore
kilts and had Scottish clan names destroyed, He banned Education of Scottish History in schools up until 1970
I wasnt taught Scottish History at School as it wasnt allowed.
Even today many English say Forget it all it was so long ago, wasnt long ago for the Scots,and we shall always have it till we get FREEDOM from England,Many Scots had to leave for foreign shores because of English Gold buying up all their land
Scotland today, The Land belongs to many races, from A -Z and they dont stay in Scotland and use the land to get Government Grants.What do Scots get
out of it. NOTHING,just hard work keeping the land for owners cattle and sheep is left to the Scots
Maybe you just didnt listen enough in school. And yes, while I can agree in hindsight that what Cumberland did was a warcrime, you are taking it way too far, They werent killing people in Edinburgh, except for Highlanders brought from the northwest for hangings and such, they werent killing all Scots, nor even going after all the clans, The "cleansing" was taking place in the old MacDonald, Cameron, and other clan lands in the Highlands......
, all to the west and Northwest of Wade's road from Fort William to Inverness, basically the Great Glen region and everything west and north of that. Also Cumberland was doing most of this on his own, with the idea that after 4 other rebellions, where Jacobites had been granted amnesty and even given their lands and titles back, they once again had to face them. So Cumberland committed an atrocity. In the end, his father George 2nd ordered the cleansing stopped. And he tried a different method..
He sold the remaining Chiefs on the idea of sheep farming, and in the end, the chiefs betrayed their clansmen for coin, putting them off the land to make way for sheep!
Your version of history is very skewed, and sadly, sounds like SNP dribble. Do yourself a favour.. READ SOME BOOKS before trying to state any facts. I had family who fought on both sides at Culloden. Myself and my family are British!
I wouldnt vote for SNP, The SNP wants to throw in with Europe why get rid of one tyrant to get another, As far as being Brit anyone can be that just takes a passport
Let me repeat this for you, since either you failed to read this in my last response, or perhaps you still need to learn how to read (Jesus, and Scotland boasted the World's finest education system in the world, but it's hard to believe after dealing with the likes of you) ........
I was born in Rutherglen. My family still live in Motherwell, Inverness, and Glasgow. Rutherglen is in SCOTLAND ya git!
The Jacobite Army fought to put the Stuarts back on the throne. Scotland was already "free" and had been from the late 1300's after The Bruce freed it.
n 1689 James VII, the last Stewart king of Scots, was deposed. There followed more than half a century of attempts to return the Stewarts to the throne of Great Britain.
The Jacobites were the supporters of James VII, his son James Francis Edward Stewart, (the Old Pretender) and his grandson Charles Edward Stewart (Bonnie Prince Charlie).
The name Jacobite is taken from the Latin for King James, Jacobus Rex.
So many died because of the custom of the time to do as the clan chief commanded.
If you didn't you're house was burned or you were evicted, family and all in the middle of winter.
I'm a Scot and would have gladly fought on the Jacobite side, but let's not kid ourselves all these men and bairns who fought that day at Culloden were willing combatants.
Children as young as 13 fought on the Jacobite side. RIP!
@gingerjoe1972 - how the hell did "more Scots" fight for the government? lowlanders tended to support the government but you make out as if the entire redcoat army at culloden was scottish. The Jacobite commanders were Lowlanders! Funny how the Jacobites carried the saltire into battle and their clothing had them easily identified as Scotsmen. 3 regiments of scots fought for the redcoats, that is no where near the population of scots in the jacobite army
@gingerjoe1972 - The Jacobites only had 2 regiments that werent scottish, irish picketts and the manchester regiment. The rest of the regiments were scots which destroys your theory of false information
The "45" started when he arrived with seven companions at Eriskay on 23 July 1745. As you can see by that date, Culloden could not have happened in 1745! Charlie's campaign went on for the next 9 months. The Battle of Prestonpans took place on the 21st of September 1745! Carlisle fell on November 14th 1745. They reached Derby on the 4th of december. Falkirk was Fought on 7th January 1746 And Culloden on April 16th 1746. Take the time to look up the facts first before posting!
You could also have simply paused the video at 3:52/3:59 and the Culloden Monument clearly states "The Battle of Culloden was fought on this moor 16th April 1746....." I doubt highly that the Scots would have left that Monument up as long as it has been there without correcting the date if it were wrong!!!
they could have won another victory. Culloden was a battle that should never have been fought, realistically after the retreat from England the only real option was going into the Highlands and trying to hold out for French support. In the end, Scotland was simply a pawn for the French who were more interested about the affairs going on, on the continent with the War going on there. The rebels had played their part in diverting and causing the recall of British forces needed in EU back to UK.
The night attack mainly failed because it wasnt pressed, with the highland army strung out for miles in the wilderness between Culloden and Nairn the plan had been for a concentratd attack by the whole army, seeing that this could not be achieved before daybreak they called off the attack, personally I would have sent in the regiments as they came up, they had several hundred in place before dawn, and these could have easily, IMO created enough chaos that as more highlanders came up they....
Being back in Scotland allowed the Highland Army the luxury of fighting again, since supply and replacement of loses could be dealt with now. Falkirk was a near run thing, but it ended as another major Victory for the Highland Army. Murray wished to retreat into the deep Highlands, but O'Sullivan and Charlie chose Culloden moor. Murray argued against it, but the best he managed was the idea of a night attack on the Government troops at Nairn.
Going back to Scotland, when you consider all the issues was the best and only choice. Besides on the way back the topic was made to make a stand several times in Northern England to see if the French were on their way or not. Also going back north made the issues of resupply and reinforcement easier, there were more Clans finally joining the revolt, and several regiments and supplies had arrived in Scotland from France while the Army had been in England.
Pt.4.. Based on the intel given them from a spy at Derby, the Jacobites believed that yet a third Army was marching toward them from London! Which was a lie!
So you see it is no wonder that a retreat was insisted on. Lord Murray was a smart man, he knew that even if they won a victory against one of the Armies they thought they had arrayed against them, the casualties to the Highland Army would make it an ineefective force, Murray's key strategies were to keep the Prince safe, and Army intact!
PT.3!! The biggest issue was Communication, The Jacobites had little or no actual communication with the French, they were unaware if a force had actually been assembled or not. Only Charlie's assurances which when you take into account the lack of English Jacobite support, which Charles had also said would manifest itself, created an issue of lack of trust from the Chieftains and officers of the Army.
PT. 2 cont.... The Royal Navy had already been achieving a great Naval Blockade of the French ports where the invasion army was mustering. In fact the French had already lost alot of the shipping needed for the crossing, the British capturing or sinking many as they made their way to the embarkation ports. So who knows if the French army would have even made it to England's shores with enough force to help the Jacobites??
Pt. 1 cont.... Yes London was panicing, George was preparing to leave, But the Jacobites entering London would have faced opposition, and the arrival of the two government Armies behind them so it is doubtful they would have lasted long enough to await French help.
2) Yes you can say that if the Jacobites had kept advancing toward London the French would have sent their Army, but now you get into alot of speculation.......
Wow, a great debate here instead of what I see in so many of my other vids, Nationalists and Unionists fighting!!!
My own views..
1) There was no organized defense for London at the time, Wade's and Cumberland's armies were north and east of the Jacobites. However, with less then 6,000 men, there was no way the Highland Army could have held London, a city with millions!! And there was militia being organized.......
Having said that the same Lord George Murray erred with his nightime march in an attempt to attack the sleeping Hanoverians. All he did was exhaust the remainder of the Highland army just before the battle took place.
He took the highland army as far as Derby, the road to London was clear, they could have walked in and taken it.
Sadly, there is something in we Scots, I don't know what to call it, but when so close to victory we seem to hold back at the crucial moment.
The decision by the clan chiefs to retreat back to Scotland was what changed things. If they had gone on to London history would have been changed forever. And Charlie would have been a hero.
Once the decision to retreat was taken the effect on the morale of the ordinary Highlander would have been totally demoralising.
It was on Charlie and he then went on to make so many errors of judgement, e.g. putting faith in the wrong leaders, going in the plum duff with his one brilliant general, Lord George Murray, choice of battlefield at Culloden, etc., etc.
Once back in Scotland the die was cast and they were doomed. If only..............
Yet the opposite happened. The clansmen, good in attack, not used to retreat, many returned to their homes when back in the Highlands. The cause was lost once we retreated.
If Charlie hadn't lost the plot then he might have listened to Lord George Murray instead of ignoring him. He would never have allowed Culloden to be the deciding battlefield as it wasn't suited to the Highland charge.
London was heavily defended. But the Scots would have got French support if they had kept marching to London. They however wanted a Stuart on the BRITISH throne, so they would anyway have faced English rebellions. Enough dissenters all over the place at the time if a Stuart would have come on the throne.
Maybe, baetores, but there were also a lot of Jacobites in England just waiting to see the outcome before venturing to join Charlie.
We'll never know now what might have happened. The only difference would be we'd have a different royal family here in GB. Maybe that wouldn't have been a bad thing. lol!
When they got to Derby they found that nobody was that bothered with the Hanoverians and actually thought they were ok - This lack of support and apathy was what turned the highlanders round (as well as being too far from home to feel safe)
Maybe that's it, Chor, they felt too far from home to feel safe.
Yet maybe in some ways if they had made a fight of it in England who knows what forces might have gathered round them. I think a lot were waiting to see who was winning.
They returned home, dispirited, and Charlie took the huff, ignoring his top man, Murray, and listening to old men who didn't have a clue. The final straw was the selection of the final battle, Culloden. Totally unsuited to the clan way of fighting.
Yeah perhaps. I know what you mean about the Culloden, I walked across it yesterday and got a serious case of the "willies" far too flat, and boggy. I think the original plan was for a hillside towards the east.
The time is comming again. With the recognition of a sovereign Kosovo there is nothing to prevent Scotland from being free again. Though i do suspect that as long as people want to be free withing EU's borders there is little real chance of independence.
Our Bonnie Prince should have shored up his defenses at the Border once he occupied Edinburgh, win the hearts of his subjects in Scotland, north and south, win recruits, and WAIT for an English advance.
Then CRUSH them on our own territory.
Instead, like a typical 'royal', he wanted to further his own ambition rather than the people who fought for him.
Easy to say what we think the Prince thought. He never left a book behind to tell of his feelings. We can but guess.
His big mistake was to fall out with Lord George Murray, a military genius.
The latter lost everything for following the Prince, his lands, his position, and went into exile, and to his credit, never held a grudge against the Stuarts he's gave everything for.
We can only wonder what might have been. If only.....
Prince Tearlach was a besotted idiot, but I understand why the clans followed him and fought. If they hadn't, my many times grandfather wouldn't have ended up in the colonies and I wouldn't be here to tell his story.
Well this and my other videos really arent made to glorify Charlie, but to honor the Clansmen. And they also for a fictional story I am writing at the moment which portrays a Scotsman who fights with the Jacobites due to Fate and circumstances placing him there rather then out of any love for the stuarts.
We cannot forgot all the Jacobites that committed atrocities during the battles like the coldblooded massacare of redcoats during Preston Pans
Demonisis3 6 months ago
should have left Gibson out of the video
craemac 8 months ago
great post hitmann the truth for a change
NOVATICANWARS 9 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS Thank you. The SNP just wants to rewrite History with Mel Gibson as their editor. The Jacobite uprisings were Civil wars and Scotland did most of the bleeding all the way around for the Stuart cause, which was not about freeing Scotland, it was about who would sit on the throne of Britain and who would be in charge. Even if Charlie had won, it would have ended up that eventually the people, through Parliament would have rose against the Stuarts again. Absolute rule wasn't wanted
hitmann2300 9 months ago 2
@hitmann2300 we all know that it wont stop the separatists from claiming it was a Scots v English thing,It does bug me when some sepratist or other starts to ramble on about "Butcher Cumberland". if Charlies boys wld have got the upper hand, am sure it wld have been a case of same same ,Brutal times indeed.
NOVATICANWARS 8 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - could u be any less unionist/hannovarian royalist if you tried? i suspect your from "ulster" to have what your youtube name is. If you really are Scottish show a bit of respect for a sad chapter in Scottish history. & rap it with your "separatist" patter, it can be viewed metaphoricly as scotland vs england as one side flew the saltire, whilst the other had the union jack. The jacobites fought for the king of scottish royal blood.
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 Dont gee me any of your fkn shite you arsehole . I can trace my Scottish ancesrty back over a thousand years Am a proud Scots man and a proud protestant. What the fuck are you? Irish .not Scottish! Ya Hitler loving Nazi bastard, who the fk are you trying to kid . And dont talk shite Culloden wasnt Scots v English ya fkn clown!
NOVATICANWARS 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - how am i irish and a nazi? im part irish and part scottish u tit. I never said it was a religious war, although for hannovarians it pretty much was to keep a presbyterian crown. Jacobites fought for the scottish clan system, for scotland (the opposed the union of PARLIAMENTS) and for THEIR rightful king, as they swore allegiance to the stewarts and became apart of scotland cause of it. That was their allegiances, and they never broke it. That loyalty should be honoured
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - LOL "hitler loving nazi bastard" the only british achievement im proud of is WW2, your probably unionist cause of WW2? lol, even though thats when britain being powerful went in a massive decline after it. Answer me, are you a "ulster" loyalist? listen to the hatred in you, i refuse to accept your "Christian", your a bigot, youd be much happier on a video concerning 1690 wouldnt you
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - your an artificial "Christian"
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - if you had any decency you would show a bit of respect/sympathy to the attrocities Cumberland carried out that day. But the truth of it is you are a big fan of his, and proud of the lives he took that day (not just from the battlefield)
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 IT WASNT SCOTS V ENGLISH . IT WAS REALY THE BRITISH CIVIL WARAS you should know the 2 kings ., Prince Charlie and King george were fighiting for the throne of Great Britian. If Charlie and the Jacobites wld have won Charlie wld have becamr KING OF BRITIAN! i,ve made it simple so you can follow it. Their weresoldiers of ALL Christian faiths on each side. I KNOW How much YOU wld have wanted it to be An english v scots thing,BUT it WASNT wasnt a prod v catholic thing.You seem mixed up .
NOVATICANWARS 6 months ago
@hitmann2300 Awesome. Finally someone gets it. Crawford here to bro.
thegranitebison 1 month ago
What really splits my sides is that some (sepratists)S.n.p. and the like. brigadoon fools that make someof the silly vids on here have tried to portray the conflict as Scotland v England! the Battle by oNE"KING" agist another KING . THe battle for the BRTISH crown.......but then agian they,ll cling to anything,any fairy story,any myth any auld"shortbreadtin" nonsense to turn the clock back
NOVATICANWARS 9 months ago
THE REAL scots were with the goverment IN the BRITISH CIVIL WAR some clans side with the CATHOLIC STUARTS some with the GOVERMENT ALLof LOWland scotland was on the goverment side
NOVATICANWARS 9 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS Again, just like I tell the Scottish Nationalists that come here, THIS IS NOT a POLITICAL video!
REAL SCOTS FOUGHT ON BOTH SIDES.
And while MOST Lowland Scots sided with the Government, there were several Lowland Scots Regiments with the Highland Army. You must remember, Perth, Dundee and Aberdeen are not considered to be in the "Highlands" Lord George Murray was not a Highlander. He was a Lowlander. The County of Perthshire is split by the borders between Highlands & Lowlands,
hitmann2300 9 months ago
@hitmann2300 - thank you for your information, i can see your pretty anti jacobite but atleast you dont blurt out total anti jacobite lies. I know your anti SNP (SNP are hardly jacobites they are pretty royalist) please tell me why they want to "re-write history with mel gibson as their leader" When the SNP want scotland to go back to the way it was before union of parliaments which was dealed by corrupt politicions? other than that your information is spot on
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 I had family on both sides of the lines at Culloden. Most "Jacobites" were simply clansmen who owed everything to their Chiefs, many fought first for them, not for Charles, or the Stuart cause. and you are very wrong, the very reason they were called "Jacobites" iis that they supported the Stuart kings (Jacobus, being the Latin for James"). Those Clans that supported the Stuarts were mostly Catholics or Episcopalians, which in turn made the conflict a religious one as well....
Chuckles2979 6 months ago
@Chuckles2979 - well the scots who fought for the redcoats done it out of hardly reasons for paticularly the hannovarian cause. The blackwatch swore loyalty to the hannovarian crown when they became soldiers, and the 2 clans who fought for the redcoats (campbell and munroe) done it basicly cause thats the flaw about we our clan system. Enemies of certain clans will fight for their enemies.
Steely1888 6 months ago
@hitmann2300 - im a jacobite sympathizer, the clan within my family is MacLean who fought at the front line and lead the charge. So cards on the table there. Also "Novaticanwars" the Jacobites opposed the union of parliaments, not the union of crowns so please get your facts straight. I personally see the expiditon as a sad chapter in scottish history. Charlie was a weak king, all Jacobite errors were his (gambling at culloden) dispite his commander refusing.
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 As far as being anti-Jacobite, I am proud of the two ancestors who died with the clans, but their cause was a stupid one. The Stuarts were arrogant twits, who wanted the "Rightful absolute power of the Crown." Really the Jacobite uprisings were more of a continuation of the Conflict that raged 100 years earlier in the English Civil War.and earlier conflicts over the question of the rights of the common man vs the absolute Rule of a King. At the end of the day, the Right side won.
Chuckles2979 6 months ago
@Chuckles2979 - Im not much of a monarchist but i believe the Stewarts had much more of a claim to that throne that people from mainland europe. I dont reguard it as a religious war, its not as if the Stewarts had won everybody would be catholic or episcoplian. Idiots (bigots) like "novaticanwars" cherrishes the thought of it being a "religious war". There were presbyterian Jacobites so i dont accept that
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 Your the bigot, your a fascist Nazi Protestant hating IGNORAMUS.Its you that cherishes the thought of it being a religious war , and your nose isout of joint because whom you percive as the "right" side LOST.Dont everthink that cther people dont know where the likes of you are coming from. Your real heroes regard everyone else as "heretics",they were responsible for the rise of fascisim, the Holocaust and both World wars,Their the biggest landowners and Capitalists in the world1 Who?
NOVATICANWARS 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - "fascist nazi protestant hating IGNARAMUS"? please back up your accusations? how am i nazi for a start? and how am i protestant hating? protestants did fight for Charlie, which was me saying it wasnt a religious war, atleast not from a Jacobite perspective, but i can fair guess why your a hannovarian supporter. Im not protestant hating, they are fellow Christians. I can well tell your a ulster loyalist to come out with such shite patter, idiotic theories
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - how am i "nazi" wen i said the only british achievement im proud of is WORLD WAR TWO which would mean when the nazis lost! u retard. You are not Christian, your so retarded, your an atheist bigot who attatches himself to a christian branch, and dishes out hatred. Your like a ian paisley, you claim to be a man of the church yet your a war mongering scumbag. You watch this video dancing about the bold Heilin men who went down that day
Steely1888 6 months ago
Im watching this video cause a part of my ancestry goes back to this period. Why are you watching it? for some stupid loyalist bigoted agenda? i bet you even think the jacobite rebellion was a "vatican war" LMAO. anyway please keep your bigotry out of scotland, ulster loyalists who came to scotland brought over the orange order, and sectarian marches, do you support glasgow rangers by any chance wee man?
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - iv went on your page and you associate with people who say "bomb the vatican", it all makes sence now that your not Christian, you should try out islam mate, suits you to the core
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 That was a post(not by me)True Christianity Catholic and Protestant is a force for good. Your heroes ,the Sepratists, the so called scottish "national"partyFREED a mass murderer for a handful of Muslim votes, They court every tom ,dick n harry, promise everything to everyone ,to get votes, to divide the people of our Nation.
NOVATICANWARS 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - listen im not gonna argue with you about religion as i dont hate protestants. All countries are getting waves of immigration, that will bring about a one world government in which the Bible predicts. Yes i am a "seperatist" as i can acknowledge the union with scotland and england was done by corrupt politicions, we were bought over, and there were several protests and before we could take the protests any further, a war concerning the monarchy diveded scotland.
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS however as i said, the only british achievement im proud of is WW2, so dont call me a nazi.
Steely1888 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - the good of these waves of immigration is that i hope it unites Christians and end the stupid bigoted pish of the past
Steely1888 6 months ago
@Steely1888 An ah hid a look at YOUR page! " Fuck the Ulster Scots" you say,!!Its all Irish, provo supportin Bigotry,Rangers badges with Swastikas superimposed. Your a Protestant Hating, anti semiticIrish Fascist. You .and people like you were destroyed in 1945, but your fascist ideolgy wasnt. Youz hide behind things like "Scottish" nationalisim. The "palestinians" Funny how yu want to "Unite" Ireland... But to DIVIDE BRITIAN!pEOPLE like you HATE the Scottish people.because we got rid of rome,
NOVATICANWARS 6 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS - yes, people waving a northern ireland flag in scotland are vermin. How is me hating rangers got to do with hating "protestants" LOL, i hate rangers to the extent they are a rival club, and i dont like their politics much either. How is me hating rangers making me a nazi? rangers fans went to israel doing nazi salutes LOL. You must be a "ulster-scot" to be offended by that. Not all of scotland are rangers fans.... have u ever been here LOL
Steely1888 6 months ago
Onore agli eroi di Scozia!!!
klausponji 10 months ago
well said hitman couldent say it better myself i am a stewart
slrjohnny 11 months ago
@slrjohnny Thanks!! I'm a Crawford myself :)
hitmann2300 9 months ago
My Family history is linked to the Scottish highlanders, Two family names Fletcher,and Boles. we left for america where we were again subjegated by the British, German George and his like murdered thousands! We settled in the Mohawk valley of New York where 4/5 of the population was wiped out by Indian and British troops under Barry St. Leger and Sir. John Johnson They were first beat in the Battle of Oriskany, the true turning point of the Revolution. Many a Scott died here on both sides
autoteck1951 11 months ago
A brutal bloody business but the right side won. The Young Pretender was an arch reactionary who would have imposed an absolutist political and religious system on the UK. hence MORE Scots fought for King George than for the "damned Italian coward".
Bonfireboy1963 1 year ago 2
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bushmen123 1 year ago
I come from near where "Last of the Mohicans" takes place, and it was extraordinary to hear "Promontory" played with bagpipes instead of fiddles and the mountains of upstate New York replaced with the Highlands. Ten years ago I was fortunate enough to visit Culloden, and your video reminds of how awe-struck I was when I first saw Drummossie. Thanks for uploading this.
mrleedra 1 year ago
Sempre que vejo algum video sobre essa batalha eu me emociono. Gostei muito do video.
cinhagatinha 1 year ago
@cinhagatinha muito obrigado
hitmann2300 1 year ago
Charlie was a ponce !!
jimbob1969 1 year ago
like "fae hymn", i love this music and video, but just a mistake, the picture of Braveheart, it's not the same period. Whatever, i love...
Ilydionysos 1 year ago
@Ilydionysos Sorry I missed this. Thank you so much for the kind words. Yes, I made these vids as an expression of a Story I am writing and sadly at the time, Mel Gibson, actually it was the actress that played the queen, had me using Mel to represent the main character in my story. My later vids do a better job as I got away from using Mel :) But that picture of him holding that flag matches a scene I have visualized for a scene during the battle of Culloden :)
hitmann2300 9 months ago
Culloden Moor, one of the last battles in the War of the Austrian Succession, had English and French piling in on opposing sides of the on-and-off Scots' civil war. England had recalled an entire army from France (where the Black Watch was distinguished for their rear-guard tactics against French cavalry at Fontenoy) to stop the Jacobites, whom France supported rather poorly.
bcschmerker 1 year ago
@bcschmerker Indeed the peripheral small states were a side show in a bigger context.
Lisnageeragh 1 year ago
Anyone know about Shelton, Robertson or Stovall? Thanks.
mvies77 1 year ago
two hundred and 64 years ago today this happened. Incredible
epearl8 1 year ago
@themusher26 we might be related cause im of munro decendant aswell and my ancestors also faught at culloden
craigr112 2 years ago
I am of Scottish heritage and play the pipes and Culloden was fought on my birthday I praise the brave scots who fought and remember them I am a Mackay and Munro we fought bravely love live the pipes and the pipers
TheMusher26 2 years ago 2
The Munros supported the British government during the Jacobite uprisings.
sledo 2 years ago
Thank you i forgot about that. I am also a Murray and a Cambell thanks for the correction
TheMusher26 2 years ago
Clan Campbell supported the government in both the 1715 and 1746 uprisings. Murrays fought on both sides.
See, this was a civil war, not Scots against English.
gert83 2 years ago
I am trying to locate a copy of this music in cd or mp3 form for my mother's. It was her wish to have this and amazing grace on bagpipes played. Could you please help me by telling me where I could find this particular version.
crys136 2 years ago
The original text of the 1747 proscription is to be found in Internet. All "know" that bagpipes are forbidden by that act. So nobody checks. A totally different sample? All "know" the 10 commendments. Many think one is: " you shall not kill", the original translates murder. Please friends, check the contemporary sources , don't trust later written books. Don't trust me either, but do me the favour, read the sources, books are no sources at all!
crematio 2 years ago
The campbells, traitors who throughly enjoyed ethnic cleansing their own kind and for who the english are eternally gratefull to keep the real 'pretenders' on the throne the illegitment german mongrels from hanover. Charlie was too good for them, compare to king georges favourite son. And lets not forget the aftermath, exile, and executions many years later as many as 40,000 by the british army. Banning Gaelic, kilts, bagpipes and arms.
year1314 2 years ago
And where was Charlie while his loyal followers suffered? Oh Yeah, He was living La Vida Loca in Italy, partying hard, pimping! He was a wife abuser, and died a drunk. None of the Jacobite successes in the campaign were from any brilliance on his part, Lord Murray deserves the credit there. And the one time that Charles made a decision on conducting battle was, Oh yeah........ Culloden moor!
Ya really need to get your facts straight and stop getting your history from the Telly
hitmann2300 2 years ago
And where did Charlie get the money to live so well in Italy? He got it from those loyal Highlanders who were suffering all in the hope that he would come back with a mercenary army and save them.
But, Charlie never bothered to save any moeny to go back to Scotland, He just Lived it large in Italy.
hitmann2300 2 years ago
What ethnic cleansing? ALL clan chiefs, Whig or Jacobites alike, exchanged useless feudal warriors for sheep. (All J. Lords got the land back) There was never a ban on bagpipes, have a look in the LAWS, not 19th cent. romantic books. And the Kilt was forbidden for landless only, not for landowners. Any Scottish Gentleman could wear the kilt, not only soldiers. To call the campbells and many others "traitors" is stupid. Since Queen Anne Scots are British subjects, and she was a 100% Stuart!
crematio 2 years ago
No, there are some issues he has right, Kilts and Bagpipes were OUTLAWED for many years, it was Sir Walter Scott that worked at getting the ban lifted. However, Scottish regiments raised for the crown could wear the kilt, and play the pipes, which was fantastic for recruitment, along with the heavy competition for civilian jobs as the Clan Chiefs betrayed their clansmen for Gold as they got sold on the idea of herding masses of sheep for the growing textile industry in the Lowlands.
hitmann2300 2 years ago
Did you know? It is still a law in the books that Bagpipes may not be brought to the Houses of Parliament without special permission! Bagpipes are still classified as a WEAPON.
hitmann2300 2 years ago
The word of the "Instrument of war " is a citation of a judge who sentenced a piper who was out in 45 and claimed not guilty, being a musician, not fighter. He was treated like a drummer. All other trials of pipers, that are documented, are also connected with being out in 45, not piping itself. Someone understood it wrong and started to spread the story. All repeat it. The same with Kilts, few bother to read the old law. There is an exception for all landowners, realy, trust me - or check.
crematio 2 years ago
@crematio - You need to read up in your history , I suggest reading John Prebble's "Culloden". "Butcher" Cumberland could not have won without the traitor Campbell's .
AlbaSiar 1 year ago
@AlbaSiar Following the retreat from London it was only a question of time that the Jacobites would be crushed. Just compare numbers. Apart from the Campbells many other Scottish disliked the Stuarts. How many came out in 1745? Well, the Government's Highlanders did most of the raping and burning. Old Clan feuds, no modern politics caused a lot of the peasants harm. But the "traitors", they paved the way for Victoria's mighty UK. With Scotsmen in highest positions. And today? A Cameron !!!
crematio 1 year ago
@crematio - Having routed the Redcoats at Prestonpans and Falkirk , and having rode his luck from the day he landed it is reasonable to suggest 'one more push' into London could have been successful given that the French fleet was assembled in Normandy, and George 1, had already made arrangements to return to Hanover. If the Clansman had united, NO army could have defeated them and there would have been no Culloden , Clearances ,Anglicization , cultural and political hegemony.
AlbaSiar 1 year ago
@AlbaSiar Sorry, but Prestonspans was a skirmish against 3 Inf Rgts +600 Drag (mostly new Recruits) and Falkirk no Scottish victory. Only 12 Officers and 55 OR killed! (Against 50 killed Jacobites) 280 missing but 170 of them back next day. Without the FRENCH Irish and Ecossais which saved the day it would have been a Scottish disaster. And the Hannover story, nuts. London was fortified and a big army collected. No Stuart support in England and that was the premise for the French invasion.
crematio 1 year ago
@crematio - At Prestonpans, 300 Redcoats dead , 500 wounded ,1500 surrendered including 80 officers . "(..)the well equipped regular force of Cope's redcoats had been utterly routed by (..) Scotch Highlanders" - The London Government view of Prestonpans. The redcoats ran or surrendered in the face of the Highland charge and Gen. Cope narrowly survived a court marshal - I doubt if the London softies would have offered any greater resistance against 5-10,000 battle hardened Clansmen .
AlbaSiar 1 year ago
@AlbaSiar The original daily Inf. OOB for Prestonpans is still existing: 55th 291, 57th 580, 58th 570 43rd and 64th together 183. Dragoons ca.650. 2300 Men all together. Few had more than 4 months training (1 salvoe only), just ca. 300 had some campaign experience. Most cavalry and some infantry escaped. Well equiped? 1 RA Officer but no RA crew for the 1,5 IB toy guns and 4 Coehorns. Please use orig. sources, not books. Ca. 150 dead, some of them murdered in cold blood post capitulation.
crematio 1 year ago
Alot of your exile and and the "Cleansing" of the Highlands in forcibly moving out many families from the western highlands and the Great Glen was actually done by Clan Chieftains themselves, who were the owners of the property. They sold out their clansmen in exchange for the money to be made in the wool trade by using the land for sheep.
It wasnt just Campbells that sided with the government, Gordons, Grants, Sinclairs, the Munros, Ross, Mackay, MacLeod, to name most were with the Parliament
hitmann2300 2 years ago
@year1314 I'd rather have a bunch of German mongrels as monarchs than an autocratic dictator. If BPC had ever managed to take London and oust the Hannovers, then Britain would be a republic by now, as BPC in 1746 would have been even less popular than Charles I in the 1640's.
velapulsar 1 year ago
American "Scots" Some years ago I met one who was proud that his ancestors fought at Culloden. I asked for details, he had none apart his clan name. He was a Campbell! His face got very long after I informed about the role of this clan. And todays "Scottish" culture? In fact most is Highland, caused by the clearings that forced them South or abroad. In 1745 more than half of Scots had been Lowlanders, who despised the mountain brothers. Their unique culture got lost in the following mix.
crematio 2 years ago
I guess you did not read my channel comments, I may live in America, but I was Born in Scotland. So I do know my History on the subject!
Also, while you are correct that most Campbells fought for the Government side, there were a few Campbells, notably from the Auchnabreck area, who were Jacobites, in fact, their Chief had been arrested by Campbell of Argyll before he could fully raise his clan in support of Charlie
hitmann2300 2 years ago
You might, but many many not. This guy simply thought that "the" Scots fought the English at Culloden. Many British Regiments (like the Royals) had been entirely recruited in Scotland, and even most "English" ones included a proportion of Scotsmen. The misinterpretation of the STUART war as a national uprising is widespread. 19th/20th century nationalism still dominates the thinking. In18th century family, private interests or personal loyality was decisive, not an abstract national idea.
crematio 2 years ago
LOL Yes!! Exactly why I say in my channel statement that..
"While I appreciate comments, NONE of these videos were made as expressions of Scottish Nationalism, or anti British or English. They just have to do with the time period, the music, and my book!!! :) Im a Brit!! Born to an English Father and Scottish Mother, in Scotland"
Too many "REAL" Scots think Charlie was a wonderful guy, fighting for Scottish Independance, they also forget that there were English and also Welsh Jacobites.
hitmann2300 2 years ago
So right. By the way, I like your work on YT. With your Crawford's Regiment. video you show your respect for the Jacobites but never fell into the nationalistic trap. Many Jacobites prisoners claimed that they had been forced to join and judges acceptet it, setting them free.(Like the Royal Ecossais and Irish) They owed feudal military service to the chief in exchange for land. He decided to fight - or not. They got no "king's shilling" in 1745, but in fact took it long before in form of land.
crematio 2 years ago
great photography for that era!
collinchris 2 years ago
My ancestory is Scottish. My family is Clan Justice.
God bless Scotland.
6Ski6tzo6 2 years ago
1746!
xDutchGirl94 2 years ago
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cgms310 2 years ago
The "45" Started in 1745, Prestonpans was fought 21st of Sept. 1745
The Invasion of England started in November.
The Battle of Falkirk was fought 17th January 1746
And then Culloden on April 16th 1746
Jaco009898 2 years ago
I should know better!! My bad :(
cgms310 2 years ago
May the diaspara come home and restore our nation's independence.
Peace on earth and goodwill to all men.
BillDFC 2 years ago
The United States has long supported Scotland and many Scots who fled Scotland were influential in the birth of the United States. Even today, Scottish heritage and her right to self rule is recognized not only by those claiming Scottish ancestry but by the U.S. government in some chambers. Ties that bind cannot be ignored.
ZeitgeistWI 2 years ago 2
This is true hitmann2300, Scottish blood lines are mingled with those of others who have come to Scotia at one time or another but that too has little to do with the fact that the Scots must remain united as a people and that includes those who claim Scottish ancestry abroad. It is reckoned that there are as many as 50 million people around the globe who claim Scottish ancestry. Of that number, 9,209,813 resided in the United States and that is based on a 2000 census.
ZeitgeistWI 2 years ago 2
Petty bickering about who is more Scottish because of geography is worthless tripe that separates us as people with a common bond. Don't fall prey to that sort of nonsense and feed it. Fight it and understand that we over here in Canada and the United States who are proud of our Scottish heritage honor and pay due reverence to those from which we have come. Cuimhnich air na daoine o'n d'thaining thu
ZeitgeistWI 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the support, Sadly, Melodeon can no longer answer you since I blocked him. In private notes to me he borders on being an outright racist. He doesnt even view Lowlanders, (Those living in Edinburgh or Glasgow.) as Scottish! Sadly he isnt the only Scot with these strange views about those Scots who live abroad. He actually tried to claim some sort of "Racial Purity" Yet is a MacDonald, and as any MacDonald clansman will tell ya, They have Viking blood in their veins as well as Scots!
hitmann2300 2 years ago
Nevermind that Scottish blood is mixed, not only with the English, but with Norman, saxon, even Roman blood over the course of the last 1800 years
hitmann2300 2 years ago
Second hitmann2300.
McDonald of the isles.
Stood at Stirling through to the Jacobites at Culloden.
Norse & Scots blood.
RagnarOneEye 2 years ago
Those same Highland people who fled the clearings and the failure of the clan system brought a piece of Scotland with them that many Scots themselves have forgotten. Perhaps it is those like yourself who secretly wish that what we have preserved from our forefathers was still yours. It can be because Scots are Scots no matter where you live or how you choose to honor your heritage. Together, united, we are strong. Divided we let those who seek control over us to rule.
ZeitgeistWI 2 years ago
To MelodeonJohn I can only say this-Americans who claim Scottish ancestry and therefore are proud of Scotland and her people know enough about Scotlands history to realize that it isn't about tartans or plaids or shortbread tins. It is about having in us the same spirit that brought those from whom we came to a new land to start a new life. It is a proud spirit of a proud people who despite the best efforts of outside influences continued and thrived.
ZeitgeistWI 2 years ago
What would an American know about Scotlands history other than what he had read from a book written by an englishman no doubt, Americans have a tartan tin of shortbread with th their grannys pic and thats them Scots
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
The typical argument of the ignorant, when you cant back up your shite, you turn to abuse. I was born in Rutherglen. My family still love in Motherwell, Inverness, and Glasgow. Besides you silly cunt, you just stated earlier that you live in Scotland and never learned your history. So maybe it takes someone outside the box as it were to teach it to you! Please do Scotland a favour and keep your tripe to yourself, because you as a representative makes true Scots look ignorant!
hitmann2300 2 years ago
Thats the pot calling kettle black using abusive language I didnt call you any foul words, I did once read thats lack of words or is that you americanised now.
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
No, you just stated what most ignorant bastards like you come out with when you cant back up any of your silly statements. You either claim that because a person is living abroad that they cant be Scots! Or that because they dont support your views, they must not be Scots. Unlike yourself, I actually got an education and know my country's history. Now if you cant bring up any FACTS to back your silly beliefs I suggest you stick to whatever drugs your takin and your music and leave it there.
hitmann2300 2 years ago
Of course they didnt kill anyone in Edinburgh they are all anglo there ,saying they killed all way back to Edinburgh is a mode of speech by real scots,The English wanted to wipe out the Clan system , They arent all named Smith after you leave Stirling.
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
No, it is an ignorant remark and a mode of speech used by the retarded! In the end, progress and Greed killed the Clan system. The Clan chiefs themselves were as much to blame as any "Englishman" Charlie's war was a civil war He never had the full support of Scotland, not even by half! But you go on ahead and believe the crap the SNP are feeding to you! If they have their way, in the end you wont even be able to say your Scottish. You will be a state within a United States of Europe! Enjoy it!
hitmann2300 2 years ago
I HATE!! the english royalty,Duke of Cumberland won his Battle at Culloden but he didnt need to kill men women and children that werent in the battle, all the way back to Edinburgh,He was committing Genocide in Scotland,The English King wanted all Scots who wore
kilts and had Scottish clan names destroyed, He banned Education of Scottish History in schools up until 1970
I wasnt taught Scottish History at School as it wasnt allowed.
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
Even today many English say Forget it all it was so long ago, wasnt long ago for the Scots,and we shall always have it till we get FREEDOM from England,Many Scots had to leave for foreign shores because of English Gold buying up all their land
Scotland today, The Land belongs to many races, from A -Z and they dont stay in Scotland and use the land to get Government Grants.What do Scots get
out of it. NOTHING,just hard work keeping the land for owners cattle and sheep is left to the Scots
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
Maybe you just didnt listen enough in school. And yes, while I can agree in hindsight that what Cumberland did was a warcrime, you are taking it way too far, They werent killing people in Edinburgh, except for Highlanders brought from the northwest for hangings and such, they werent killing all Scots, nor even going after all the clans, The "cleansing" was taking place in the old MacDonald, Cameron, and other clan lands in the Highlands......
hitmann2300 2 years ago
, all to the west and Northwest of Wade's road from Fort William to Inverness, basically the Great Glen region and everything west and north of that. Also Cumberland was doing most of this on his own, with the idea that after 4 other rebellions, where Jacobites had been granted amnesty and even given their lands and titles back, they once again had to face them. So Cumberland committed an atrocity. In the end, his father George 2nd ordered the cleansing stopped. And he tried a different method..
hitmann2300 2 years ago
He sold the remaining Chiefs on the idea of sheep farming, and in the end, the chiefs betrayed their clansmen for coin, putting them off the land to make way for sheep!
Your version of history is very skewed, and sadly, sounds like SNP dribble. Do yourself a favour.. READ SOME BOOKS before trying to state any facts. I had family who fought on both sides at Culloden. Myself and my family are British!
hitmann2300 2 years ago
I wouldnt vote for SNP, The SNP wants to throw in with Europe why get rid of one tyrant to get another, As far as being Brit anyone can be that just takes a passport
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
Let me repeat this for you, since either you failed to read this in my last response, or perhaps you still need to learn how to read (Jesus, and Scotland boasted the World's finest education system in the world, but it's hard to believe after dealing with the likes of you) ........
I was born in Rutherglen. My family still live in Motherwell, Inverness, and Glasgow. Rutherglen is in SCOTLAND ya git!
hitmann2300 2 years ago
The Jacobite Army fought to make Scotland Free and they did,But poofy Charlie wanted to stand in Londons
Royal court, thats all he was interested in.
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
The Jacobite Army fought to put the Stuarts back on the throne. Scotland was already "free" and had been from the late 1300's after The Bruce freed it.
hitmann2300 2 years ago
n 1689 James VII, the last Stewart king of Scots, was deposed. There followed more than half a century of attempts to return the Stewarts to the throne of Great Britain.
The Jacobites were the supporters of James VII, his son James Francis Edward Stewart, (the Old Pretender) and his grandson Charles Edward Stewart (Bonnie Prince Charlie).
The name Jacobite is taken from the Latin for King James, Jacobus Rex.
MelodeonJohn 2 years ago
So many died because of the custom of the time to do as the clan chief commanded.
If you didn't you're house was burned or you were evicted, family and all in the middle of winter.
I'm a Scot and would have gladly fought on the Jacobite side, but let's not kid ourselves all these men and bairns who fought that day at Culloden were willing combatants.
Children as young as 13 fought on the Jacobite side. RIP!
nacho1560 2 years ago
the munros aswell
JAKWIK 2 years ago
Great video, and the "Gael" song is fantastic, I love it.
thanks for uploading mo chara.
Hugh
itsjustmacker 2 years ago
Highlands forever!!!
My home, my heart, my love!!!
My heart´s in the Highlands, wherever I go!!!
JamesMcKenzieFraser 2 years ago 7
What song is it?
JamesMcKenzieFraser 2 years ago
"The Gael" from the movie "last of the Mohicans"
hitmann2300 2 years ago
Thank you!!!
JamesMcKenzieFraser 2 years ago
Irony being is that more Scots fought for the Goverment, than the Jacobites!
gingerjoe1972 3 years ago 2
Ironic, and sad too.
Caledonia62 2 years ago
That is a fact.
BillDFC 2 years ago
@gingerjoe1972 - how the hell did "more Scots" fight for the government? lowlanders tended to support the government but you make out as if the entire redcoat army at culloden was scottish. The Jacobite commanders were Lowlanders! Funny how the Jacobites carried the saltire into battle and their clothing had them easily identified as Scotsmen. 3 regiments of scots fought for the redcoats, that is no where near the population of scots in the jacobite army
Steely1888 6 months ago
@gingerjoe1972 - The Jacobites only had 2 regiments that werent scottish, irish picketts and the manchester regiment. The rest of the regiments were scots which destroys your theory of false information
Steely1888 6 months ago
The "45" started when he arrived with seven companions at Eriskay on 23 July 1745. As you can see by that date, Culloden could not have happened in 1745! Charlie's campaign went on for the next 9 months. The Battle of Prestonpans took place on the 21st of September 1745! Carlisle fell on November 14th 1745. They reached Derby on the 4th of december. Falkirk was Fought on 7th January 1746 And Culloden on April 16th 1746. Take the time to look up the facts first before posting!
hitmann2300 3 years ago
You could also have simply paused the video at 3:52/3:59 and the Culloden Monument clearly states "The Battle of Culloden was fought on this moor 16th April 1746....." I doubt highly that the Scots would have left that Monument up as long as it has been there without correcting the date if it were wrong!!!
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Great vide of Scotland and the Highlands!!!
christof139 3 years ago
Thank you!!!
hitmann2300 3 years ago
I guess when your original video's name gets hijaked by some stupid hack that should be a compliment. In a round a bout sort of way...
Take no offense,hitmann... it's only an obvious observation...
ROPdude 3 years ago
LOL Do me a favor and go troll elsewhere! This vid was put up a year ago.
You on the other hand dont have a single vid of your own up on Youtube. For a 35 year old you come across as a punk 12 year old.
Grow the hell up and Merry Xmas Kthxbye
hitmann2300 3 years ago
i didnt know they had cameras in jacobite days-fancy!
bigchappy1970 3 years ago
they could have won another victory. Culloden was a battle that should never have been fought, realistically after the retreat from England the only real option was going into the Highlands and trying to hold out for French support. In the end, Scotland was simply a pawn for the French who were more interested about the affairs going on, on the continent with the War going on there. The rebels had played their part in diverting and causing the recall of British forces needed in EU back to UK.
hitmann2300 3 years ago
The night attack mainly failed because it wasnt pressed, with the highland army strung out for miles in the wilderness between Culloden and Nairn the plan had been for a concentratd attack by the whole army, seeing that this could not be achieved before daybreak they called off the attack, personally I would have sent in the regiments as they came up, they had several hundred in place before dawn, and these could have easily, IMO created enough chaos that as more highlanders came up they....
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Being back in Scotland allowed the Highland Army the luxury of fighting again, since supply and replacement of loses could be dealt with now. Falkirk was a near run thing, but it ended as another major Victory for the Highland Army. Murray wished to retreat into the deep Highlands, but O'Sullivan and Charlie chose Culloden moor. Murray argued against it, but the best he managed was the idea of a night attack on the Government troops at Nairn.
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Going back to Scotland, when you consider all the issues was the best and only choice. Besides on the way back the topic was made to make a stand several times in Northern England to see if the French were on their way or not. Also going back north made the issues of resupply and reinforcement easier, there were more Clans finally joining the revolt, and several regiments and supplies had arrived in Scotland from France while the Army had been in England.
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Pt.4.. Based on the intel given them from a spy at Derby, the Jacobites believed that yet a third Army was marching toward them from London! Which was a lie!
So you see it is no wonder that a retreat was insisted on. Lord Murray was a smart man, he knew that even if they won a victory against one of the Armies they thought they had arrayed against them, the casualties to the Highland Army would make it an ineefective force, Murray's key strategies were to keep the Prince safe, and Army intact!
hitmann2300 3 years ago
PT.3!! The biggest issue was Communication, The Jacobites had little or no actual communication with the French, they were unaware if a force had actually been assembled or not. Only Charlie's assurances which when you take into account the lack of English Jacobite support, which Charles had also said would manifest itself, created an issue of lack of trust from the Chieftains and officers of the Army.
hitmann2300 3 years ago
PT. 2 cont.... The Royal Navy had already been achieving a great Naval Blockade of the French ports where the invasion army was mustering. In fact the French had already lost alot of the shipping needed for the crossing, the British capturing or sinking many as they made their way to the embarkation ports. So who knows if the French army would have even made it to England's shores with enough force to help the Jacobites??
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Pt. 1 cont.... Yes London was panicing, George was preparing to leave, But the Jacobites entering London would have faced opposition, and the arrival of the two government Armies behind them so it is doubtful they would have lasted long enough to await French help.
2) Yes you can say that if the Jacobites had kept advancing toward London the French would have sent their Army, but now you get into alot of speculation.......
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Wow, a great debate here instead of what I see in so many of my other vids, Nationalists and Unionists fighting!!!
My own views..
1) There was no organized defense for London at the time, Wade's and Cumberland's armies were north and east of the Jacobites. However, with less then 6,000 men, there was no way the Highland Army could have held London, a city with millions!! And there was militia being organized.......
hitmann2300 3 years ago
Having said that the same Lord George Murray erred with his nightime march in an attempt to attack the sleeping Hanoverians. All he did was exhaust the remainder of the Highland army just before the battle took place.
nacho1560 3 years ago
Why was it an ill advised venture?
He took the highland army as far as Derby, the road to London was clear, they could have walked in and taken it.
Sadly, there is something in we Scots, I don't know what to call it, but when so close to victory we seem to hold back at the crucial moment.
The decision by the clan chiefs to retreat back to Scotland was what changed things. If they had gone on to London history would have been changed forever. And Charlie would have been a hero.
nacho1560 3 years ago
Once the decision to retreat was taken the effect on the morale of the ordinary Highlander would have been totally demoralising.
It was on Charlie and he then went on to make so many errors of judgement, e.g. putting faith in the wrong leaders, going in the plum duff with his one brilliant general, Lord George Murray, choice of battlefield at Culloden, etc., etc.
Once back in Scotland the die was cast and they were doomed. If only..............
nacho1560 3 years ago 3
we went back for 2 reasons
1 rumour was it there were 9000 men at the gates of london
and 2 if they went to scotland they would have an easier time defending it than in england
witchhunter32 3 years ago
Yet the opposite happened. The clansmen, good in attack, not used to retreat, many returned to their homes when back in the Highlands. The cause was lost once we retreated.
If Charlie hadn't lost the plot then he might have listened to Lord George Murray instead of ignoring him. He would never have allowed Culloden to be the deciding battlefield as it wasn't suited to the Highland charge.
nacho1560 3 years ago
London was heavily defended. But the Scots would have got French support if they had kept marching to London. They however wanted a Stuart on the BRITISH throne, so they would anyway have faced English rebellions. Enough dissenters all over the place at the time if a Stuart would have come on the throne.
baetores 3 years ago 2
Maybe, baetores, but there were also a lot of Jacobites in England just waiting to see the outcome before venturing to join Charlie.
We'll never know now what might have happened. The only difference would be we'd have a different royal family here in GB. Maybe that wouldn't have been a bad thing. lol!
nacho1560 3 years ago
When they got to Derby they found that nobody was that bothered with the Hanoverians and actually thought they were ok - This lack of support and apathy was what turned the highlanders round (as well as being too far from home to feel safe)
chorizopher 3 years ago
Maybe that's it, Chor, they felt too far from home to feel safe.
Yet maybe in some ways if they had made a fight of it in England who knows what forces might have gathered round them. I think a lot were waiting to see who was winning.
They returned home, dispirited, and Charlie took the huff, ignoring his top man, Murray, and listening to old men who didn't have a clue. The final straw was the selection of the final battle, Culloden. Totally unsuited to the clan way of fighting.
nacho1560 3 years ago 3
Yeah perhaps. I know what you mean about the Culloden, I walked across it yesterday and got a serious case of the "willies" far too flat, and boggy. I think the original plan was for a hillside towards the east.
chorizopher 3 years ago
McNabs forever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
witchhunter32 3 years ago
Robertson's lining up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caledonia62 2 years ago
McLachlans Forever!!!
shadoogie61 3 years ago
The time is comming again. With the recognition of a sovereign Kosovo there is nothing to prevent Scotland from being free again. Though i do suspect that as long as people want to be free withing EU's borders there is little real chance of independence.
robertgeorg 4 years ago
The Theme from "Last of the Mohican's" Played by the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
hitmann2300 4 years ago
Charles Stuart caused more pain and suffering in his short stay in Scotland than even Cromwell.What an ill advised venture.
BillDFC 4 years ago 7
Our Bonnie Prince should have shored up his defenses at the Border once he occupied Edinburgh, win the hearts of his subjects in Scotland, north and south, win recruits, and WAIT for an English advance.
Then CRUSH them on our own territory.
Instead, like a typical 'royal', he wanted to further his own ambition rather than the people who fought for him.
Caledonia62 2 years ago
Easy to say what we think the Prince thought. He never left a book behind to tell of his feelings. We can but guess.
His big mistake was to fall out with Lord George Murray, a military genius.
The latter lost everything for following the Prince, his lands, his position, and went into exile, and to his credit, never held a grudge against the Stuarts he's gave everything for.
We can only wonder what might have been. If only.....
nacho1560 2 years ago
Prince Tearlach was a besotted idiot, but I understand why the clans followed him and fought. If they hadn't, my many times grandfather wouldn't have ended up in the colonies and I wouldn't be here to tell his story.
jggiant12188 4 years ago
Well this and my other videos really arent made to glorify Charlie, but to honor the Clansmen. And they also for a fictional story I am writing at the moment which portrays a Scotsman who fights with the Jacobites due to Fate and circumstances placing him there rather then out of any love for the stuarts.
hitmann2300 4 years ago