Scherie means the Kyrenia(Kyrneia in oldgreek)-mountains in the north of cyprus./Gazire(Island in persian),Gazira(in arabic),Saar(in Estnic),Saari(in Finnish)./Cirok(History in Kurdish),Heri(yesterday in latin),cora(in sorbic),gar(Swedish..),hier(french),Ayer(spanish),Hyah(sanskrit),iehri(italian)/Zer(old in armenian and pashto)/Dschazira(Island in pashto)
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Homer's Ithaca was located on Lefkas (Lefkada) Island ..It is Known in Greece for many years ..Don't loose your time searching in Doulihion (=nowadays Cefalonia) or Sami (=nowadays Ithaca)..
Google the Odyssey and Astronomy and you will see a fascinating article about recent work with the constellation references in Odyssey. Using computers to back trace the stars, scholars have determined an exact date for Odysseus' return to Ithaca, where ever it may be. Although I still think Bittlestone's work is by far the best on the subject. Regarding the comments - Where is mount Neriton? - please note the history of landslides and earthquakes in the region. Bittlestone does.
Ithaca has always been, if all the facts pertaining to it from the "Odyssey" are correctly interpreted. understood, connected and verified, a commune on an island, not an island itself.
Amater Bittlestone and his academic trabants doesn't know that all problems of exegesis actually derive from the fact that the exact meaning of Homer has not been grasped.
Bittlestone's tesis is not based on the vsersis of Homer in the Odyssey! Paliki is not and has never been Homer's Ithaca!
If that is what you call an argued point, I can see why they ignore your theory. What makes you think you know the "true meaning" of Homer's words better than world-renowned professors in the field?
The validity of your argument aside, you are *still* just spamming here in order to promote yourself.
Unfortunately, you can see nothing because you do not know nothing obviously about the Ithaca Question.
What does it mean " world-renowed professors in the field" ? We do not know in advance who will discover essential new standpoints in science of Homerology.
Please if you can, read first my book and than tell me something "cleverish"!
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Is that how you defend your argument? Insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you? Accusing them of knowing nothing? That is NOT solid, academic work. If people ignore your theories, it is because you do not make a proper argument. Bittlestone and Diggle here have looked *closely* at the text, made solid arguments about and from it, and have gone out look at both the current landscape and the geology--important and informative work.
I defend my argument in my book. I do not accuse you. It is not an "argumentum ad hominem"! I'm only worried about your and Bittlestone's knowladge of Homer.
Your argument, then, is that anybody who doesn't agree with you has less knowledge of Homer than you do. That's pretty much insulting anybody who doesn't agree with you.
I won't defend my knowledge of Homer, but as for Bittlestone's--his theory is backed by one Professor James Diggle, whom you see in this video involved in this project and whose knowledge of ancient Greek (and Homer) is immense. I suggest you look him up before assuming he knows nothing.
I suggest you and Professor Diggle please read my book first and give your own review.I have to ask myself what one world-revnowed professor (wich knows Homer) is doing in Bittleston's company!?
"I explained the simple meaning of Homers's words, his primitive but correct orientation, conected the relevant episodes and the main story in the Odyssey and have located Ithaca- homeland of Odysseus towards the poet's description on the one of the most enchanting and interesting places on earth." I am sure.
The home of this ancient mythological hero, one of the best known figures of human history, has finally beeen located.
Nonsens.Bittlestone's theory is just one more of many speculations!He is like Schliemann, a very good publicist: an expert "marketer". He knows his "customers" well, and he listens to them carefully, and he responds to what he belives they neeed in order to convice them.
Please see the book Odysseus's Ithaca: The Discovery.
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This is stupidity! How many times we will listen to this theory that is proven wrong. Isn't he the same prof. who denied this theory in the past? Ithaca is not on Kefalonia
The book charts each step of Odysseus, landing back in his homeland, walking 'x' distance to Eumaios pig farm - the stone wall enclosure of which is still there, complete with a 'hollow rock that breaks the north wind', onward to his father Laertes' farm, which is still there, etc. Your shorting of the research and refusal to examine the material is telling. Your sarcasm can't make up for your lack of intellectual honesty. Read it.
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I have read the book behind this video, Robert Bittlestone's "Odysseus Unbound". I have read it and re-read it several times. It is simply the best modern archaeology out there. Brilliant. Every geographic and topographic detail from Homer is matched by Bittlestone perfectly. He has found ancient Ithaca, to a mathematical certainty. Give him his due. Read the book.
That you read this book again and again is nice to know but this does not mean that it makes the book worth reading or accurate. The theory is not only very wrong but it is unoriginal as others have proposed this idea in the past... and failed. Cute geological research cannot alone overturn real historical and archaeological records that have a track record of thousands of years. You should ask for a refund.
Scherie means the Kyrenia(Kyrneia in oldgreek)-mountains in the north of cyprus./Gazire(Island in persian),Gazira(in arabic),Saar(in Estnic),Saari(in Finnish)./Cirok(History in Kurdish),Heri(yesterday in latin),cora(in sorbic),gar(Swedish..),hier(french),Ayer(spanish),Hyah(sanskrit),iehri(italian)/Zer(old in armenian and pashto)/Dschazira(Island in pashto)
Nassieful 3 days ago
u guys are both wrong dick wads
odyseas home is in Zakinthos....
there is ancient riuns there.....
64788946 2 months ago
I love greek mythology, I love the odyssey.
CHErevolucionDJC 1 year ago
Dig, dig.....maybe you can find a MYTH underneath the earth, you up your ass idot....ahahha!!!
Celavieful 1 year ago
Bravo, Bittlestone et al ! Most interesting.
3XXKeturah 1 year ago
Ithaca lies to the westahaca :-P
IronicallyVague 1 year ago
Ithaca is not described in the "Odyssey" like an island! Therefore Bittlestone is digging in the wrong place.This is a big delusion.
BERISB 3 years ago
ODYSSEUS'S ITHACA
: The Discovery
Author: Brckovic, Berislav
A convincing, compelling argument..."
Review by Kirkus Discoveries,
BERISB 3 years ago
There is almost complete correspondence between the lines and some of the locations... with scientific criteria, will be hard to ignore... etc.
BERISB 3 years ago
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Homer's Ithaca was located on Lefkas (Lefkada) Island ..It is Known in Greece for many years ..Don't loose your time searching in Doulihion (=nowadays Cefalonia) or Sami (=nowadays Ithaca)..
chousiself 3 years ago
Youtube "History Channel on Homer's Ithaca" and you will find Mount Neriton in the video. Bittlestone points it out.
kaneweb 3 years ago
Google the Odyssey and Astronomy and you will see a fascinating article about recent work with the constellation references in Odyssey. Using computers to back trace the stars, scholars have determined an exact date for Odysseus' return to Ithaca, where ever it may be. Although I still think Bittlestone's work is by far the best on the subject. Regarding the comments - Where is mount Neriton? - please note the history of landslides and earthquakes in the region. Bittlestone does.
kaneweb 3 years ago
Exist a lie, exist a bloody lie and exist also Bitlestone's theory about Homer's Ithaca.
Berislav Brcković
BERISB 3 years ago
another good theory about ''homers ithaca'', missing many clues...
asyftaos 3 years ago
Lake as the trepanation on the Homer's head. Homer's Ithaca is not an island!
Paliki never been an island.
BERISB 3 years ago
Ithaca has always been, if all the facts pertaining to it from the "Odyssey" are correctly interpreted. understood, connected and verified, a commune on an island, not an island itself.
Amater Bittlestone and his academic trabants doesn't know that all problems of exegesis actually derive from the fact that the exact meaning of Homer has not been grasped.
Bittlestone's tesis is not based on the vsersis of Homer in the Odyssey! Paliki is not and has never been Homer's Ithaca!
BERISB 3 years ago
Berisb--that's rich, saying that Professor James Diggle doesn't grasp Homer.
Clearly, you're only posting here to promote your own book.
glaukopisathene 3 years ago
Nonsens. I promote here only my right tesis about Ithaca.Bitllestone and his proffessors
may ignore my theory,but they can not ignore true meaning Homer's words. That is the point!
BERISB 3 years ago
If that is what you call an argued point, I can see why they ignore your theory. What makes you think you know the "true meaning" of Homer's words better than world-renowned professors in the field?
The validity of your argument aside, you are *still* just spamming here in order to promote yourself.
glaukopisathene 3 years ago
Unfortunately, you can see nothing because you do not know nothing obviously about the Ithaca Question.
What does it mean " world-renowed professors in the field" ? We do not know in advance who will discover essential new standpoints in science of Homerology.
Please if you can, read first my book and than tell me something "cleverish"!
BERISB 3 years ago
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Is that how you defend your argument? Insulting everyone who doesn't agree with you? Accusing them of knowing nothing? That is NOT solid, academic work. If people ignore your theories, it is because you do not make a proper argument. Bittlestone and Diggle here have looked *closely* at the text, made solid arguments about and from it, and have gone out look at both the current landscape and the geology--important and informative work.
glaukopisathene 3 years ago
I defend my argument in my book. I do not accuse you. It is not an "argumentum ad hominem"! I'm only worried about your and Bittlestone's knowladge of Homer.
BERISB 3 years ago
Your argument, then, is that anybody who doesn't agree with you has less knowledge of Homer than you do. That's pretty much insulting anybody who doesn't agree with you.
I won't defend my knowledge of Homer, but as for Bittlestone's--his theory is backed by one Professor James Diggle, whom you see in this video involved in this project and whose knowledge of ancient Greek (and Homer) is immense. I suggest you look him up before assuming he knows nothing.
glaukopisathene 3 years ago
I suggest you and Professor Diggle please read my book first and give your own review.I have to ask myself what one world-revnowed professor (wich knows Homer) is doing in Bittleston's company!?
BERISB 3 years ago
Interesting theory but not definitive. for a scenic tour on actual Ithaca - click my page.
rainscratch 4 years ago
"I explained the simple meaning of Homers's words, his primitive but correct orientation, conected the relevant episodes and the main story in the Odyssey and have located Ithaca- homeland of Odysseus towards the poet's description on the one of the most enchanting and interesting places on earth." I am sure.
The home of this ancient mythological hero, one of the best known figures of human history, has finally beeen located.
Author: Berislav Brcković
BERISB 4 years ago
O.K.
BERISB 3 years ago
Nonsens.Bittlestone's theory is just one more of many speculations!He is like Schliemann, a very good publicist: an expert "marketer". He knows his "customers" well, and he listens to them carefully, and he responds to what he belives they neeed in order to convice them.
Please see the book Odysseus's Ithaca: The Discovery.
Berislav Brcković
Thanks.
BERISB 4 years ago
and where is the mountain neriton in paliki?
there is not there a mountain. only a hill 500 meter high...homer says:
Bright Ithaca is my home: it has a mountain,
Leaf-quivering Neriton, far visible.
FAR VISIBLE.FAR VISIBLE IS AINOS 1600 METER IN CHEFALONIA, FAR VISIBLE IS ELATI 1200 METER IN LEFKADA....NOT IN PALIKI
eldymion 4 years ago
Dear sir or madam,
Thank you very much for your question.This is a very good question.
My book Odysseus's Ithaca:The Discovery gives complitly answer to the question whay my theory about Ithaca is correct until Bitlestone's is not.
Regards.
Berislav
BERISB 4 years ago
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This is stupidity! How many times we will listen to this theory that is proven wrong. Isn't he the same prof. who denied this theory in the past? Ithaca is not on Kefalonia
saertna1 4 years ago
The book charts each step of Odysseus, landing back in his homeland, walking 'x' distance to Eumaios pig farm - the stone wall enclosure of which is still there, complete with a 'hollow rock that breaks the north wind', onward to his father Laertes' farm, which is still there, etc. Your shorting of the research and refusal to examine the material is telling. Your sarcasm can't make up for your lack of intellectual honesty. Read it.
kaneweb 4 years ago
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I have read the book behind this video, Robert Bittlestone's "Odysseus Unbound". I have read it and re-read it several times. It is simply the best modern archaeology out there. Brilliant. Every geographic and topographic detail from Homer is matched by Bittlestone perfectly. He has found ancient Ithaca, to a mathematical certainty. Give him his due. Read the book.
kaneweb 4 years ago
That you read this book again and again is nice to know but this does not mean that it makes the book worth reading or accurate. The theory is not only very wrong but it is unoriginal as others have proposed this idea in the past... and failed. Cute geological research cannot alone overturn real historical and archaeological records that have a track record of thousands of years. You should ask for a refund.
dvas11 4 years ago
Dear sir or madam,
Bitlestone has'nt found ancient Ithaca.
Read the book Odysseus's Ithaca: The Discovery by Berislav Brcković.
Thanks.
Best,
Berislav
BERISB 4 years ago