Whether or not people recognize these signs is another matter—as the old saying goes, denial isn't just a river in Egypt. (Get it? Denial, spelled "de Nile" … the river Ni … oh, never mind.) The point is that if we see a painting, we know there is a painter. If we see a sculpture, we know there's a sculptor; a pot, a potter. So when we view creation, shouldn't we know there's a Creator?
@Donkooks If you see an ideea, you know there`s an idiot, right? In order for anyone to explain the human soul, you have to prove that it exists. I thought i`d call you a moron just in case you couldn`t read it between the lines.
But only the religious can explain where it came from. The theory of natural selection can explain many of the material aspects of living things, but it fails to explain the human soul.Furthermore, anyone who studies the complexities of life and the universe cannot help but witness the signature of the Creator.
After all, it contained enough matter to form not just our galaxy, but the billion other galaxies in the known universe. So where did that come form? Who, or what, created the primordial dust cloud? Similarly, evolution may explain the fossil record, but it falls far short of explaining the
quintessential essence of human life—the soul. We all have one. We feel its presence, we
speak of its existence and at times pray for its salvation.
So who did make us? Most of us have been brought up more on science than religion, and
to believe in the Big Bang and evolution more than God. But which makes more sense?
And is there any reason why the theories of science and creationism cannot coexist? The Big Bang may explain the origin of the universe, but it doesn't explain the origin of
the primordial dust cloud. This dust cloud (which, according to the theory, drew together,
compacted and then exploded) had to come from somewhere.
It's useless and stupid to start believing in everything that you cannot disprove. If we did so we would all be believing and worshiping the flying spaghetti monster, but we aren't. You believe in something that you cannot prove exists, so you have to come up with arguments. You seem like a nice guy though and it's great to seat back and have a chat with atheist, we're not bad folks.
THE ATHEISM TAPES by Jonathan Miller should solve some of your problems. Search, read, watch and do your thinking work. And if you still can't come to a conclusion understanding atheist ideas, which I'm sure you won't, then we just have to wait for you and your kind to die along with your ideas. Isn't it a shame for you theist that we have discuss the existence of god?
The problem is not disproving god, its proving him/her/it. This is true for the same reason we dont. We dont need to disprove god, since there is no evidence in the first place for his existence. We dont need to disprove unicorns, cuz there is no evidence to begin with. Same for lepricons, superman, talking teapots and so on.
Two simple things that can disprove god: fossil records, and the direct observation of speciation and evolution.
Also, do you believe in other gods, such as the Greek and Roman Pantheons, or maybe the numerous deities of Asia? Probably not. And this leads up to this quote by Stephen Roberts: "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
you cant argue against god, cause everything a logical person would say to a christian theyd just say oh god did it, god wanted it that way. they dont even think they just say that. christianitys perfect cause you cant disprove it, you can only make it sound dumb, i dont even know why people believe that shit anymore its gona die out eventually. aliens would look at our planet like wtf they still believe in religion ?
Come up with one argument that disproofs the existence of a race of extremely small indetectable midgets that cause the movement of every particle in the universe.
See, you cannot because they are fucking indetectable.
Well... have you got an argument that proves the existence of a god? You are the one making the claim so it's surely up to you to present the evidence. A book is not evidence, it's a book.
There is not one definative peice of emperical evedence on either side of the debate hence the reason the debate still exist and will exist. It just that, a debate. Each persons side of the debate is valid because its just that, again, a debate. Enter my two cents,,from the perspective of an Atheist, we don't have the answer but we have the right to keep looking and questioning. From the perspective of a Christian, we know God exists, hence we don't need to question. Both valid. End of Debate!!
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Perhaps this isn't as ignorant as others comments....
There is no argument they will accept. Do you know how brain-washed you have to be to give 10% of your earnings to some clown driving a jaguar when you can barely pay your mortgage? The people at the top of the religious hierarchy are making far too much money to let a few atheist spoil their game. We will give them new intelligent arguments, and their leaders will get together and come up with new rebuttals. This will go on forever.
Religion is big business. If you visit any southern state in America, you will see a huge church on almost every block. It's like a franchise with guaranteed success. There's a lot of real estate ownership involved. There's tons of cash (tax-free) involved. And there's plenty of people that are willing to give 10% of their income every month. It does no good to try to argue with the religious. Churches have been brain-washing people for a thousand years, and they're good at it. There is no argu
So God" loves everyone... Except for anyone else living a lifestyle or following a different faith that still hold values that are accepted as morally "good"? All the starving people of the world? Genocide? What about the Crusades, an act of a caring god? And I suppose something happened after that where his image became that of a peaceful, loving god, asking his people to tell others of Christianity instead of stabbing them in the backs under cover of night?
Thing is - you have to be intelligent to be a legitimate atheist; if you're not, how can you try to project yourself into atheism. One argument, the man says? Errr.... M-theory or evolution - take your pick
just rebrand that video : Atheist's nightmare" and just keep the picture with no sound at all...just looking at him is enough as he got that crazy fanatical look :P
if you would like athiests to disprove the existance of god why dont you prove the existance of god? trying to disprove god is very hard but its just as difficult as proving god
The simple fact is (athiest) cannot prove their claim that God does not exist because He does. The evidence for Gods existence is obvious through out the universe and nature here on earth. And if God did not exist, then how did life and everything that exist come into existence? Answer that...
Well, theists have been in control for thousands of years brainwashing people in their ignorance and putting the fear of god into them and yet... not produced one shred of evidence for the existence of any god. Atheism isn't a "belief" it is a stand point and a challenge to prove the existence of god. Disproof is bourne out by the fact no god turns up! How many more centuries of murder and torcher and exploitation of the ignorant do you need???
Why don't you go and study a bit of science, then you won't be so ignorant about natural processes. The truth is a lot more exciting then what you're trying to sell.
If he exists, nobody has the right to claim his existence. If he exists he wants us to live without us knowing. Arrogant religious poeple have made up stories about them knowing what his plan is, that is a scam. Live in harmony with others and stop you worship, it causes more harm than good to all "God's" creations. Let live and let die. Preech only in the place that was built for it if living in religion is your choice, thank you.
Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false, it is "generally accepted" (or vice versa).
Comprehend this. The burden of proof is on the believer, not the unbeliever. I choose reality and science over mysticism and magic.
@bulkyzero You need to look at statistics. Atheists outnumber the sheep. Do you know why your own religion calls you sheep? Please, prove to me that god exists. Stalemate.
why aren't we all born with an innate understanding of God? to me, religion is so obviously created by man. a story that was created and told through generations to control the masses and to provide answers to questions that, at the time, could not be answered. a story that has slowly fallen apart. think of all the things that were considered "truths from God" that have been disproved. If you need further proof just consider what makes other religions so unbelievable and apply them to yours.
Atheists come up with evedence that can be checked. Theist can only come up with inchoherent babbling from ancient books that defy description (Any of them). Really you think this is the same?
@Bramak17 Atheists come up with facts that defy scientific logic on a daily basis proving the mysteries of the world to be just another way the universe works? You sure about that? Not to mention a mystery is evidence to a religious person that god does exist and yet your atheist can't explain it away giving it credability...should have thought harder before your reply dude.
@ScientificBob You're bang on there man, thank fuck there's more and more of us popping up everyday..drop the religion everybody it really doesn't matter whether there is or isn't a god just accept that if there is it's too big for your wee tiny mind to understand (mine included)..hence why we're doing this thing, I don't know if you've heard about it, it's called LEARNING, not relying on some deity to guide you provided you follow a moral code..just be fuckin' moral and live :D
@ScientificBob No...fricken...WAY!!! The exact same thing happens to me too, I pray for rain and 3 days later there's rain :o You must be in the same group as me, what you wrote matches what I just wrote doesn't it?...I was told we were the only tribe of don'tgiveafuckians left but there's that myth of "the one that got away" but that's an ancient story told to boost community spirit of not being alone in the universe...isn't it?
Atheists can't come up with 1 arguement?..Both groups can only point to "evidence"...which is dodgy but can't show any PROOF, both sides need to drop they "he does exist" "he doesn't" exist arguement NONE OF YOU WILL EVER KNOW UNTIL THE TIME COMES YOU CAN'T ARGUE ANYMORE ANYWAY CAUSE YOU'LL BE DEAD..grow up and live a little, you don't see a labrador excluding a pug because he looks or thinks different, they're both dogs just like we're all human, take a leaf out of the book of a "lower" entity.
@doiremick86 I'm unaware of any evidence presented that disproves the existence of God or any other deities by atheists or anyone else. The only people blabbering about proof are the religious. Most atheists know they can't disprove God's existence, but choose not to believe due to the lack of evidence. Most theists seem to view the lack of proof that God doesn't exist as confirmation that he does. This is a logical fallacy and only makes them look ... disingenuous or ignorant.
@NeoConsREvil That's why both groups need to wise up, it's a question that 1) Doesn't NEED answered and 2) Doesn't really matter either way if it is answered...just look at how many people have died in his/her name, I'm sure if he/she was real then noahs ark would become a fairytale compared to what would be done as punishment and the governments would try to kill him/her anyway in interest of "national security", if he/she isn't real then things will just carry on as normal.
@doiremick86 It does matter, especially here in the US. Have you seen the Republican Party? The validity of these unproven, bigoted ideals matters very much. The Church and all that it tries to shove on the rest of us needs to be forbidden from government. Being free to worship your god doesn't mean you're free to govern me in his name. Keep faith at a personal level. People like Santorum and those that agree with him scare the shit out of any sane person.
Someone says "If someone tells me he saw God, he's crazy". Next logical step: send him/her to a psychiatric reeducation camp or goulag.That's what's frightening about the new atheistic fanaticism. It's the same as any fanaticism, same ol' recipe, same tone, same logic: my belief is the good one, the rest is evil, let's make it disappear. I don't practice any religion, I wasn't brought up religiously (I'm vedantic), but I find rising militant atheism as dangerous as any other fundamentalism.
As for God being unable to lift a rock he created too heavy for him, I find it funny, as though he could not be, not only in the kid who can't lift it, but in the rock itself, and playing at hiding itself to itself. Anyway. I don't understand people talking about a concept of "God" that doesn't include playing at cache-cache in all kinds of ways in the universe, including this blog. Atheists sometimes seem to have inherited the grim seriousness of apocalyptic preachers.
Germanic root of word "God" means "to call", "to invoke". Indo-european root for Dieu, Dios, etc., is linked to the idea of vastness and light (dyau, dyaus, dyu). Theos has the same root as Dieu, like Zeus: Dyaus, as in the Vedas. One culture is bent on calling, or invoking. Others are bent on seeing (here : the light, all kinds, any level of light, including inner, peaceful, vast light, which is always Dieu, Dyaus. I can't prove it to anyone & I won't try. Neither can anyone prove Iznogod.
If you claim a god to be omnipotent and omniscient then you can't argue against it, its a view point; take the same question from an atheistically perspective, how can you prove the existence of a god? You cannot definitively prove this either. They're both merely opinions.
They claim[they can't prove it because its a negative]... What a cop-out!!! At least give one logical reason other than "I can't see God so He doesn't exist."
@ScientificBob o.k I understand, if you can't prove the"non-existence of God", then what other "proof" or logical reason can you give to back your claim"? And you can't prove the existence the non- existence of life out side of our solar system either but that doesn't mean that it doesn't or can't exist.... Of course you cant prove the non-existence of God, because He exist...
To be frank, sometimes I don't get what people are talking about. Seems outside of my culture. I hear a "tone of voice" in the written words by those who are "atheists" and it sounds like "Believe of die". One says God doesn't exist because the Bible Book is full of sh.. Are they atheists or abookish or ashitist? What are they really talking about? God didn't create the universe? Fine. Sue for infringement of copyright, get your money and burn some books. Sound and Fury for nothing.
He thought like an atheist thinking about god??? I thought like a christian about Marry Poppins and there is no god (but the movie version of Marry Poppins is hot :p ). Argue for me the case Marry Poppins is not real. Huh go on, disprove Poppins. Just one argument proving Poppins is not real.
Individually one can have the experience of God, or one can have the.. non-experience of God. Other than that, we speak of beliefs, atheist or theist belief. What's really worrying is that atheists have now reach the point of fundamentalist fanaticism and they're embracing the worst of what they usually denounce: they wage a new war of beliefs, sort of a new war of religion, and they seem unable to realize it.They prove nothing but want to impose that naught on people. Pathetic. And frightening
Give me one, just one argument that proves unicorns don't exist. Do you now see the problem with your question? I believe a pink guineapig sits on my shoulder. He's name is Marvin. Can you unarguably prove his nonexistence? The point is one can't disprove an unobservable being or object.. Religious people's complete lack of logical thinking always amuses me..
Come up with 1 to prove god... The glasses you're wearing are made by man... The YouTube u r using is an invention of a human.. And finally the language you are speaking is an evolutionary result of a thousand years of humans... If you trust god exists why use all things made by man... Sit by a tree n pray your life out....
it's a one of those things thats answered with a question, since i don't believe in any gods. can you prove to me why another god isn't real? your pick. the problem with your question is simply that i have nothing to prove. i find your evidance lacking, just as much as i find any evidance for any other god or god's to be nothing more than stories or boogiemen.
@sartoretto007 You may say "no religions are true", but religion is true. If you can comprehend what I'm saying. Religion is simply how you live your life, through following your beliefs. So everyone has a religion. Atheism is one too; as it's been classed. But it may as well be called apathy instead, since that's moreso what it is. Life is easy without much self-discipline, which is why most people are atheist.
@JustElijah Your view on atheists is one of the biggest misconceptions of atheism by theists. Atheists do not lack self discipline; it's just that instead of choosing to follow rules on the fear of supernatural retribution by a being that may or may not exist, we choose to follow self discipline based on the societal instincts that are ingrained into us by millenia of evolution as social beings, and to act towards other people in the same way that we want to be treated as in turn.
@rk23263 Your view on theists is one of the biggest misconceptions of theism by atheists. We don't do it out of fear. Well I can't speak for everyone, but I do it for myself. Since you probably don't know too much about it, I can tell you with a sure knowledge that nothing but good can come from following the "rules", which would only help you become the best version of yourself possible. If you were to see the whole grand scheme of life, it would make more sense.
Your challange only shows that you do not understand atheists. I do not try to debunk god. I just don't see a reason to believe in any gods. There is a myriad of claims about divine beings and spirits, and I don't believe any of them.
To further ilustrate my point: I bet you don't believe that the world was created by Kutkh, the Raven God. Neither do I. You just believe in one of the many religions. I don't, because to me, the god of Abraham makes just as much sense as Kutkh, the mighty raven.
@ArgonianDude They aren't crazy. If you can't say what God looks like, so you can compare that with what they said they saw, who are you to say they saw nothing? There isn't any reason for anyone to lie about stuff like that, but even if they didn't and thought they did, you still cannot deny their testimony. It is theirs, whether you have proof of its legitimacy or not.
first let's define god... ''the creator''... ''all powerful''... so can he create something more powerful than himself? the very idea is fundamentally flawed.
If there is no god you can prove to exist then there's no god we must have to debunk. Get the simple logic? It's a circular argument. I'm not saying I completely don't believe in someone more superior than us (a 4-Euclidean Dimensioned being is far more superior) but your argument is childlike and embarrasing.
Debunk the existence of my "god" which is identically same to yours and i will CONVERT
You are right. We atheists cannot debunk the existence of God, and no intelligent atheist I have come across so far has claimed to do so. The only ones who claim to be able to debunk God, are morons who throw around strawman arguments.
I think one of my favorite posters sums it up best.
"Look, nobody really knows where all this came from but I'd rather trust the dudes in lab coats who aren't demanding I get up every Sunday morning to overdress and apologize for being human."
answers: dinosaurs, Australopithecus, zombies are not real (therefore how can jesus exist?), cancer, starving christian children, sumerians had similar religious ideas before including a flood story. my hope is that one day you will be released from samsara and be content with reality.
religion is religion..its impossible to prove or dis prove which makes it genius...9/10 ppl believe in what they were raised to believe..if the parents were christians, theyre christians.but answer me this. theres hundreds of religions in this world. whose to say yours is right????
@GoGrishaGo well excepting that the origin can actually be traced to england and stories handed down for centuries to kings eager not to be poisoned and handed stories about the ability of unicorn horns to detoxify the most toxic of drinks with evidence provided by narwhale horns...
but then science can't prove the big bang either except to say 15 or so billion years ago and we don't know why...
iSTOP WAVING YOUR FINGER YOU ARROGANT ISLAMIC FUCK! WAVING YOUR FINGER DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YR SAYING IS RIGHT. IT'S JUST SOME THREAT 'YOU BETTER SAY I'M RIGHT' NO WONDER PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE PRIMITIVE
Atheism is relatively new. It is, whether you believe it or not, the invention of the Jesuit priesthood who created freemasonry and the Illuminati, and who were in turn created and sanctioned by the Catholic Church. All of this can be researched online. The Catholic Church are hell bent on world domination. And have decided the Fascism most closely resembles the ideals of the Catholic Church. The NWO is coming, the anti-Christ is coming. No one will escape except the true Church of Jesus Christ
@ScientificBob you know it all worm, I'm looking at the origins of Atheism right now and it says it had it's beginnings in the 16th century but wasn't openly admitted to until the 18th century. Anything before then was called something else. Most every culture on the face of the planet believed in a god. And who the *^&% asked you.
@crustydownunder "Anything before then was called something else"
You're looking at the origin of the WORD instead of the origin of a worldview that doesn't include supernatural entities.
"Most every culture on the face of the planet believed in a god" So? There was a time that everybody believe that the earth was the center of the solar system. That didn't make it correct, now did it?
@philhimself99 So evolution doesn't exist because you don't have proof. And don't say you do. If you were as smart as you are going to say you are, you would already know that evolution is based on lies. Only people who have never studied evolution for themselves believe it's true. Strange, atheists say we believe in a myth, but they believe in a lie. And I can prove God is real, take a look around you. Evolution? No, creation. The whole intent of evolution is to deny God. Why?
@crustydownunder Sorry, if you read my last post correctly, I say that i CAN'T prove any of the theories. But that fact is, in 2000 years of written history, we found NO PROOFS that EITHER RELIGION or EVOLUTION is accurate. If you disagree with this, we don't have the same definition of what a proof is.
@philhimself99 Mmm. Sorry if I confused you. What is proof? That would be a whole other can of worms. People say I believe in a fairytale, but the bible has proved its accuracy over and over again. I don't believe in God because a book told me too, I believe in God because He revealed Himself to me, just as He did to others in the bible. The bible is for us to use to confirm what His Spirit reveals to us personally. No one can understand that unless they have experienced it first.
@crustydownunder Unless you read the definition of a PROOF and that you PROOVE ME the existance of God, we better stop this discution. However, if you can PROOVE me the existance of God, i will be glad to tell you that you were right. Since you don't seem to understand what a PROOF is, please get the wisdom to accept your ignorance. I accept mine. WE JUST DON'T KNOW! Nothing as been proven scientifically.
@philhimself99 Then I feel sad for you. Always you want scientific proof. Do you need science to tell you if you have never learned to swim, that you will drown in water? How does a baby know to hold it's breath underwater? How do all animals know how to swim at birth. Somethings need no proof, they are just known on the inside of us. Don't live your whole life looking for proof, because sometimes even proof cannot be seen. Like the wind moves the trees, but it cannot be seen.
@crustydownunder As I knew, you didn't prove anything. I respect your opinion, I just don't think it makes sense at all. Concerning the swimming issue, there is something called genes. It doesn't mean god did anything in there. For wind moving trees, it's very simple to prove. Now, with all respect, please accept that you might not know everything. Constantly putting things in question is a sign of intelligence. Being stubborn is ... well the opposite ;) I feel sorry for you too
@philhimself99 all i want you to do is explain why the universe started... because he might say we don't need god to explain the results... hawking fails to say what made it all kick off...
@ScientificBob I said it can't be seen, and it can't. So, nature, with no brain or intelligence, understands the concept of drowning? You are so deceived. You people never answer the questions, you always slid off topic. You call everyone else stupid because they believe differently. How arrogant is that? You are not smart, you simply repeat everything you heard someone else say. You have no original thought or idea. You are the root of the problem asshole, not the solution.
@crustydownunder "I said it can't be seen, and it can't" That doesn't matter. It's still detectable. You implied that wind has no evidence because it 'can't be seen'. That's just plain wrong.
"So, nature, with no brain or intelligence, understands the concept of drowning" No. And I have no idea how you got that from what I said. Go read it again.
@crustydownunder shut up ass... the bible has been proven to be full of shit time and time again... there are two creation stories that contradict each other... there are two geneologies of christ that contradict each other... the book of job has god sitting around with the devil and making bets on the outcome of his praise or denial of god... the bible is shit made up by men...
@crustydownunder "the bible has proved its accuracy over and over again"
LOL
No it hasn't. The entire old testament is pure gibberish that's been falsified a thousand times over. As for the new testament... anecdotal bullocks, written down decades to centuries after the alledged events, with absolutely NOTHING to back up any of the things that matter to the religion.
@ScientificBob See, you answer me again, with a lie. The bible has been proved accurate. Almost ever ancient discovery has been made using the bible for a guide, don't lie, just admit it. As for the new testament, it was written by not one or two eye witnesses but five. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul. So again, you spin another lie. You call yourself scientificbob, but all you have is lies. How sad for your mother. Just like the things you believe, lies.
@crustydownunder "The bible has been proved accurate" No, it hasn't. Do you wish to continue this stupdi yes/no game or are you finally gonna back up your statement with something verifiable?
"Almost ever ancient discovery has been made using the bible for a guide" For example?
"it was written by not one or two eye witnesses" None of authors are eyewitnesses, unless they lived to be +120 in an age where the average life span was like 27.
@crustydownunder "evolution doesn't exist because you don't have proof"
LOL
Perhaps if you ignore everything we know about biology, bio-chemistry, molecular biology, genetic and the solid convergence with physics, geology and archeology.
You're a freaking moron. Or a troll. Or a Poe.
I seriously hope you're just a Poe. But I fear you're just stupid.
@ScientificBob Seriously, you want to go there? biology, bio-chemistry, molecular biology, genetic, no one I know working in this field believes in evolution, and they'd be thrown out of their respective research labs for saying so. They are funded by evolutionist. It's all a big lie, and you are sucked right into it. As for geology and archeology, more lies, there are strict limits to variation that are never crossed, something every breeder of animals or plants is aware of.
@crustydownunder the biggest lie is religion..that organization pays no tax nice business they have going and all u religious fools have been sucked in... lol! it's mind slavery you fool..you have no free thought.. you are controlled thou shall not steal... thou shall not kill... thou shall give the church more money...lol
@crustydownunder "no one I know working in this field believes in evolution" That's probably because you actually don't know anyone who is actually working in those fields. Disagreeing with the scientific consensus is one thing, but flat out denying that there is a scientific consensus puts you into an entirely new category of stupido.
@crustydownunder "and they'd be thrown out of their respective research labs for saying so" Well, duh. A doctor would also be fired from a hospital for denying Germ Theory and being a proponent of the "demonic posessesion hypothesis", and rightfully so.
"geology and archeology, more lies" Yes, yes. ALL science that doesn't agree with your bronze-book is a lie. It's a global conspiracy and they all work for the devil!!!1!!!111
When someone makes an extraordinary claim, it has to be backed up by some sort of proof or explanation. Theists claim there is a good, the burden of proof is with them.
I can show you how stupid your argument is by just twisting it around against you:
Give me ONE.. ONE proof there are no invisible unicorns flying in deep space, who are responsible for every natural fenomena.
An atheist's perspective specifically in the field of god...? I'd like to know about an atheist's perspective, specifically in the field of cakes.
Atheists DO have arguments against the existence of god, and not only against the existence of your god but all of them. But lets say that you're right and atheists don't have arguments against the existence of any god. By your logic all of these gods must exist... Are you doing all you can to avoid the wrath of shiva?
This man is stupid. He needs to understand that the burdan of proof is on him(or other religious crazys) that god exists. Take bigfoot or the lochness monster for example. There is MORE proof that they exist than god.
The thing is, we don't see, feel or hear god, so why would we believe in him? You'd have to come up with 1, i repeat 1 good reason for us, to believe in the existence of a god.
As an example, I believe in fairies, you don't. Then I don't proceed to ask you why you wouldn't believe in fairies, NO! I would proceed to tell you, what it's all about, show you a fairy etc. etc.
Oh yeah, fairies don't exist, neither does your god.
I'm assuming that you only believe in one god, you're monotheist, and based on that assumption you only believe in the god that you were taught to believe in and therefore dismiss all other gods. In this case you're atheist about all gods except your own. You dont believe in zeus, why not? You cannot disprove zeus, but this isnt a reason to worship him either is it? The same is true for atheism, just because god cant be disproved doesnt mean you should believe in him.
Here's an argument... If god is real where is he. Why would he let so much violence go on the world. I lost my faith long ago and discovered the truth... Science. Explain evolution, Explain how god was created.
@sartoretto007 He's not trying to prove there is a god. He's asking you to prove there isn't. Answers exist independent of our knowing them, so his question stands. I can't answer it, but no question on any subject disproves the possibility of the world having been created by a sentient being, which is all "god" means. They are just questions we don't know the answer to. Perhaps it all fits together and we just don't know how. You could say that for literally anything, including atheism.
@Daly2893 All-powerful with things logical... Of course God Can't make a ROck to heavy for him to lift because that is not logical. But lets say that he could make something to big for him to lift due to him being all powerful with things even illogical. After he made the rock to big for him to lift... He would just go ahead and lift it... Cause lifting a rock to big for him to lift is illogical.
Your invalid argument is INVALID.
And they say we Christians have horrible arguments.
@MrIrishBilly You apparently missed the point of that video, once again.
"love is wise, hatred is foolish"
Don't blind yourself with hatred.
-You seem to have had a bad experience with theists. Remember that people can take any text and with enough bias make it mean to them what they want it to mean. just because people use it to promote hatred doesn't mean that the text is inherently hateful. Look at Mother Teresa.
2. Why are we born with a sense of right and wrong?
3. I was using Mother Teresa as an example of a christian who did not have prejudices. I just typed the first one that came to mind. A better example would be Damien of Molokai
4. I don't see anything in that last comment that said you were an atheist
5. I don't see how I missed any point that video made, I respectfully disagree with the idea that god is illogical.
You are asking for a negative proof. Such a proof is NOT possible. The burden of proof lies on those positing the existence of such a being, and shifting that burden to the other side is a common fallacy. However, when multiple lines of investigation in cosmology, geology, biology, and other sciences can account for the universe without invoking the supernatural, Bayesian inference would statistically imply that there is a very high probability that no such supernatural forces exist.
@therealluckystrik3r Damn, I'll let you atheists win this round, but next time Jesus will win. May the lord; our father who art in heaven have mercy on you, and pity you for worshiping false gods. One day Jesus will come down and make America great once more, and on that day no one will deny the lord. Hailleleuiah! Praise Jesus.
I don't need a video response. Black plague. Killed MILLIONS of "god-believing" people. Why didn't their god protect them? Answer: god doesn't exist. Now your turn, give me an argument that god exists.
have to ask what degree of proof do you need that god does not exist? Like I mean the only proof anyone can have is that no one has ever seen him. In recent years unless you want to count crackpots from the middleages and if anyone claims to have met him to prove so they need to undergo a psychological evaluation because obviously everyone is going to think they are mental.
Evidence motherfucker. Do you have it?
veritasdivina 17 minutes ago
You dont have one argument for Atheist is because you think like a Christain...
ethan1581 1 hour ago
i think both evolution and creation are both full of it. both fairy tales
chopin999 1 hour ago
Whether or not people recognize these signs is another matter—as the old saying goes, denial isn't just a river in Egypt. (Get it? Denial, spelled "de Nile" … the river Ni … oh, never mind.) The point is that if we see a painting, we know there is a painter. If we see a sculpture, we know there's a sculptor; a pot, a potter. So when we view creation, shouldn't we know there's a Creator?
Donkooks 2 hours ago
@Donkooks If you see an ideea, you know there`s an idiot, right? In order for anyone to explain the human soul, you have to prove that it exists. I thought i`d call you a moron just in case you couldn`t read it between the lines.
fightingBarbie 12 minutes ago
But only the religious can explain where it came from. The theory of natural selection can explain many of the material aspects of living things, but it fails to explain the human soul.Furthermore, anyone who studies the complexities of life and the universe cannot help but witness the signature of the Creator.
Donkooks 2 hours ago
After all, it contained enough matter to form not just our galaxy, but the billion other galaxies in the known universe. So where did that come form? Who, or what, created the primordial dust cloud? Similarly, evolution may explain the fossil record, but it falls far short of explaining the
quintessential essence of human life—the soul. We all have one. We feel its presence, we
speak of its existence and at times pray for its salvation.
Donkooks 2 hours ago
So who did make us? Most of us have been brought up more on science than religion, and
to believe in the Big Bang and evolution more than God. But which makes more sense?
And is there any reason why the theories of science and creationism cannot coexist? The Big Bang may explain the origin of the universe, but it doesn't explain the origin of
the primordial dust cloud. This dust cloud (which, according to the theory, drew together,
compacted and then exploded) had to come from somewhere.
Donkooks 2 hours ago
the burden of proof is on theists..
TheCmcskills 4 hours ago
Oh thank god for this... I needed a laugh.. XD
jolorulz 4 hours ago
It's useless and stupid to start believing in everything that you cannot disprove. If we did so we would all be believing and worshiping the flying spaghetti monster, but we aren't. You believe in something that you cannot prove exists, so you have to come up with arguments. You seem like a nice guy though and it's great to seat back and have a chat with atheist, we're not bad folks.
adriano54015 5 hours ago
Bahahahahahaha!!!! loved the annotations
gambyyt 6 hours ago
THE ATHEISM TAPES by Jonathan Miller should solve some of your problems. Search, read, watch and do your thinking work. And if you still can't come to a conclusion understanding atheist ideas, which I'm sure you won't, then we just have to wait for you and your kind to die along with your ideas. Isn't it a shame for you theist that we have discuss the existence of god?
sNailDaytrip 6 hours ago
Everybody breathe in... Now exhale. We are never going to see eye to eye on anything are we?
ChristianJHenderson 6 hours ago
Of course not, nobody told you that you cannont proof a negative?
Try this, proof to me that little fairys dont exist. Oooops, cannot do?
See, thats why sceptics don t run around and proof nonexistance. Get it?
robert31415926 7 hours ago
The problem is not disproving god, its proving him/her/it. This is true for the same reason we dont. We dont need to disprove god, since there is no evidence in the first place for his existence. We dont need to disprove unicorns, cuz there is no evidence to begin with. Same for lepricons, superman, talking teapots and so on.
damienkurast 9 hours ago
@damienkurast lmao absolutely true!!
gambyyt 6 hours ago
Two simple things that can disprove god: fossil records, and the direct observation of speciation and evolution.
Also, do you believe in other gods, such as the Greek and Roman Pantheons, or maybe the numerous deities of Asia? Probably not. And this leads up to this quote by Stephen Roberts: "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
rk23263 10 hours ago
that makes no sense why would a non believer try to dispprove god?...they don't believe in it to begin with duh.....
you believe in it..you have to prove it... simple logic...
gtman5 10 hours ago
if there is a god... Why did he make me an atheist?
reignofchaos968 11 hours ago
then prove the existence of God?
reignofchaos968 11 hours ago
my only nightmare is his hair style
xxnotmuchxx 11 hours ago
and I'm a black rainbow and I am an ape of god ...
incubus990 13 hours ago
spoiler: Relgious guy doesn't see Atheistic point of view.
Danyal123 13 hours ago
you cant argue against god, cause everything a logical person would say to a christian theyd just say oh god did it, god wanted it that way. they dont even think they just say that. christianitys perfect cause you cant disprove it, you can only make it sound dumb, i dont even know why people believe that shit anymore its gona die out eventually. aliens would look at our planet like wtf they still believe in religion ?
TehHighTimes 13 hours ago
Come up with one argument that disproofs the existence of a race of extremely small indetectable midgets that cause the movement of every particle in the universe.
See, you cannot because they are fucking indetectable.
dex1314 15 hours ago 2
Watching this video is like going to a landfill....wtf is up with the posts popping up like someone taking a crap?
Casshyr 15 hours ago
Well... have you got an argument that proves the existence of a god? You are the one making the claim so it's surely up to you to present the evidence. A book is not evidence, it's a book.
hoppimike 16 hours ago
There is not one definative peice of emperical evedence on either side of the debate hence the reason the debate still exist and will exist. It just that, a debate. Each persons side of the debate is valid because its just that, again, a debate. Enter my two cents,,from the perspective of an Atheist, we don't have the answer but we have the right to keep looking and questioning. From the perspective of a Christian, we know God exists, hence we don't need to question. Both valid. End of Debate!!
scrubbyfilth 17 hours ago
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" Perhaps this isn't as ignorant as others comments....
SGThibakusha 18 hours ago
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AthenianPride 19 hours ago
Con't.
There is no argument they will accept. Do you know how brain-washed you have to be to give 10% of your earnings to some clown driving a jaguar when you can barely pay your mortgage? The people at the top of the religious hierarchy are making far too much money to let a few atheist spoil their game. We will give them new intelligent arguments, and their leaders will get together and come up with new rebuttals. This will go on forever.
TheRobin3212 20 hours ago
Religion is big business. If you visit any southern state in America, you will see a huge church on almost every block. It's like a franchise with guaranteed success. There's a lot of real estate ownership involved. There's tons of cash (tax-free) involved. And there's plenty of people that are willing to give 10% of their income every month. It does no good to try to argue with the religious. Churches have been brain-washing people for a thousand years, and they're good at it. There is no argu
TheRobin3212 20 hours ago
We have mountains of evidence. You just ignore it.
Jugman10000 20 hours ago
So God" loves everyone... Except for anyone else living a lifestyle or following a different faith that still hold values that are accepted as morally "good"? All the starving people of the world? Genocide? What about the Crusades, an act of a caring god? And I suppose something happened after that where his image became that of a peaceful, loving god, asking his people to tell others of Christianity instead of stabbing them in the backs under cover of night?
D3MYN 20 hours ago
choosing to believe in god is just a cop-out. you need to explore your own beliefs instead of just accepting whatever crap is handed to you
stevnev88 21 hours ago
Thing is - you have to be intelligent to be a legitimate atheist; if you're not, how can you try to project yourself into atheism. One argument, the man says? Errr.... M-theory or evolution - take your pick
MemeMan101 22 hours ago
just rebrand that video : Atheist's nightmare" and just keep the picture with no sound at all...just looking at him is enough as he got that crazy fanatical look :P
NBjam77 22 hours ago
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JESUS IS CUMMING OPEN YOUR MOUTH CHRISTIANS :P
damion223 1 day ago
if you would like athiests to disprove the existance of god why dont you prove the existance of god? trying to disprove god is very hard but its just as difficult as proving god
scottwolf666999 1 day ago
Do you wanna see my unicorn? If you prove Allah is real I'll show him to you.
marlboroman1985 1 day ago
@marlboroman1985 Bravo sir !
fightingBarbie 7 minutes ago
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The simple fact is (athiest) cannot prove their claim that God does not exist because He does. The evidence for Gods existence is obvious through out the universe and nature here on earth. And if God did not exist, then how did life and everything that exist come into existence? Answer that...
MrPeppa11 1 day ago
Well, theists have been in control for thousands of years brainwashing people in their ignorance and putting the fear of god into them and yet... not produced one shred of evidence for the existence of any god. Atheism isn't a "belief" it is a stand point and a challenge to prove the existence of god. Disproof is bourne out by the fact no god turns up! How many more centuries of murder and torcher and exploitation of the ignorant do you need???
Histbuff1 1 day ago
Why don't you go and study a bit of science, then you won't be so ignorant about natural processes. The truth is a lot more exciting then what you're trying to sell.
ophirdog 1 day ago
If he exists, nobody has the right to claim his existence. If he exists he wants us to live without us knowing. Arrogant religious poeple have made up stories about them knowing what his plan is, that is a scam. Live in harmony with others and stop you worship, it causes more harm than good to all "God's" creations. Let live and let die. Preech only in the place that was built for it if living in religion is your choice, thank you.
TheStoemp 1 day ago
loool anal rape is what i do
CrayfishInMyAnus 1 day ago
why can't the pro gods and pro-no gods just get along? In the name of Jesus and Richard Dawkins, cease and desist.
moo2thetube 1 day ago
@moo2thetube "why can't the pro gods and pro-no gods just get along"
Because the first impose rules on the second. Rules that originate from their religious framework for 100%
ScientificBob 1 day ago
Holy shit
You have amazing facial hair
Waaaghtatic 1 day ago
bulky...
You may be bulky but that don't make you no majority. Unh unh!
Bramak17 1 day ago
God/religion/faith is unfalsifiable. Period.
Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false, it is "generally accepted" (or vice versa).
Comprehend this. The burden of proof is on the believer, not the unbeliever. I choose reality and science over mysticism and magic.
NeoConsREvil 1 day ago
atheists are trolls. simple as that. they dont want to agree with the majority
bulkyzero 1 day ago
@bulkyzero You need to look at statistics. Atheists outnumber the sheep. Do you know why your own religion calls you sheep? Please, prove to me that god exists. Stalemate.
MacktheFilet 1 day ago
why aren't we all born with an innate understanding of God? to me, religion is so obviously created by man. a story that was created and told through generations to control the masses and to provide answers to questions that, at the time, could not be answered. a story that has slowly fallen apart. think of all the things that were considered "truths from God" that have been disproved. If you need further proof just consider what makes other religions so unbelievable and apply them to yours.
meinla 1 day ago
doiremick86
Atheists come up with evedence that can be checked. Theist can only come up with inchoherent babbling from ancient books that defy description (Any of them). Really you think this is the same?
Bramak17 1 day ago
@Bramak17 Atheists come up with facts that defy scientific logic on a daily basis proving the mysteries of the world to be just another way the universe works? You sure about that? Not to mention a mystery is evidence to a religious person that god does exist and yet your atheist can't explain it away giving it credability...should have thought harder before your reply dude.
doiremick86 1 day ago
@doiremick86 "mystery is evidence to a religious person that god does exist"
And that's when they engage in a bunch of logical fallacies.
A mystery can't be evidence of anything other then ignorance.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
@ScientificBob You're bang on there man, thank fuck there's more and more of us popping up everyday..drop the religion everybody it really doesn't matter whether there is or isn't a god just accept that if there is it's too big for your wee tiny mind to understand (mine included)..hence why we're doing this thing, I don't know if you've heard about it, it's called LEARNING, not relying on some deity to guide you provided you follow a moral code..just be fuckin' moral and live :D
doiremick86 1 day ago
@doiremick86 But, but, but.... I prayed for rain and then it started raining 3 days later... :-)
Religitards crack me up.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
@ScientificBob No...fricken...WAY!!! The exact same thing happens to me too, I pray for rain and 3 days later there's rain :o You must be in the same group as me, what you wrote matches what I just wrote doesn't it?...I was told we were the only tribe of don'tgiveafuckians left but there's that myth of "the one that got away" but that's an ancient story told to boost community spirit of not being alone in the universe...isn't it?
doiremick86 22 hours ago
BAHAHAHHA the annotations
itrytoteachyou 1 day ago
Yeshua is Lord!!
joshmarquez 1 day ago
Atheists can't come up with 1 arguement?..Both groups can only point to "evidence"...which is dodgy but can't show any PROOF, both sides need to drop they "he does exist" "he doesn't" exist arguement NONE OF YOU WILL EVER KNOW UNTIL THE TIME COMES YOU CAN'T ARGUE ANYMORE ANYWAY CAUSE YOU'LL BE DEAD..grow up and live a little, you don't see a labrador excluding a pug because he looks or thinks different, they're both dogs just like we're all human, take a leaf out of the book of a "lower" entity.
doiremick86 1 day ago
@doiremick86 I'm unaware of any evidence presented that disproves the existence of God or any other deities by atheists or anyone else. The only people blabbering about proof are the religious. Most atheists know they can't disprove God's existence, but choose not to believe due to the lack of evidence. Most theists seem to view the lack of proof that God doesn't exist as confirmation that he does. This is a logical fallacy and only makes them look ... disingenuous or ignorant.
NeoConsREvil 1 day ago
@NeoConsREvil That's why both groups need to wise up, it's a question that 1) Doesn't NEED answered and 2) Doesn't really matter either way if it is answered...just look at how many people have died in his/her name, I'm sure if he/she was real then noahs ark would become a fairytale compared to what would be done as punishment and the governments would try to kill him/her anyway in interest of "national security", if he/she isn't real then things will just carry on as normal.
doiremick86 1 day ago
@doiremick86 It does matter, especially here in the US. Have you seen the Republican Party? The validity of these unproven, bigoted ideals matters very much. The Church and all that it tries to shove on the rest of us needs to be forbidden from government. Being free to worship your god doesn't mean you're free to govern me in his name. Keep faith at a personal level. People like Santorum and those that agree with him scare the shit out of any sane person.
NeoConsREvil 1 day ago
Someone says "If someone tells me he saw God, he's crazy". Next logical step: send him/her to a psychiatric reeducation camp or goulag.That's what's frightening about the new atheistic fanaticism. It's the same as any fanaticism, same ol' recipe, same tone, same logic: my belief is the good one, the rest is evil, let's make it disappear. I don't practice any religion, I wasn't brought up religiously (I'm vedantic), but I find rising militant atheism as dangerous as any other fundamentalism.
LKloup 1 day ago
@LKloup "Next logical step: send him/her to a psychiatric reeducation camp or goulag"
Strawman.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
As for God being unable to lift a rock he created too heavy for him, I find it funny, as though he could not be, not only in the kid who can't lift it, but in the rock itself, and playing at hiding itself to itself. Anyway. I don't understand people talking about a concept of "God" that doesn't include playing at cache-cache in all kinds of ways in the universe, including this blog. Atheists sometimes seem to have inherited the grim seriousness of apocalyptic preachers.
LKloup 1 day ago
Germanic root of word "God" means "to call", "to invoke". Indo-european root for Dieu, Dios, etc., is linked to the idea of vastness and light (dyau, dyaus, dyu). Theos has the same root as Dieu, like Zeus: Dyaus, as in the Vedas. One culture is bent on calling, or invoking. Others are bent on seeing (here : the light, all kinds, any level of light, including inner, peaceful, vast light, which is always Dieu, Dyaus. I can't prove it to anyone & I won't try. Neither can anyone prove Iznogod.
LKloup 1 day ago
If you claim a god to be omnipotent and omniscient then you can't argue against it, its a view point; take the same question from an atheistically perspective, how can you prove the existence of a god? You cannot definitively prove this either. They're both merely opinions.
VultureAgrsr 1 day ago
They claim[they can't prove it because its a negative]... What a cop-out!!! At least give one logical reason other than "I can't see God so He doesn't exist."
MrPeppa11 1 day ago
@MrPeppa11 "What a cop-out"
It's not a cop-out. It's exactly bang on the money.
Existence can be proven. Non-existence can't.
I can prove the existence of unicorns by finding one.
I can't prove the non-existence of unicorns. if you think you can, please explain how.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
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@ScientificBob o.k I understand, if you can't prove the"non-existence of God", then what other "proof" or logical reason can you give to back your claim"? And you can't prove the existence the non- existence of life out side of our solar system either but that doesn't mean that it doesn't or can't exist.... Of course you cant prove the non-existence of God, because He exist...
MrPeppa11 1 day ago
To be frank, sometimes I don't get what people are talking about. Seems outside of my culture. I hear a "tone of voice" in the written words by those who are "atheists" and it sounds like "Believe of die". One says God doesn't exist because the Bible Book is full of sh.. Are they atheists or abookish or ashitist? What are they really talking about? God didn't create the universe? Fine. Sue for infringement of copyright, get your money and burn some books. Sound and Fury for nothing.
LKloup 1 day ago
He thought like an atheist thinking about god??? I thought like a christian about Marry Poppins and there is no god (but the movie version of Marry Poppins is hot :p ). Argue for me the case Marry Poppins is not real. Huh go on, disprove Poppins. Just one argument proving Poppins is not real.
socioeconomicsisshit 1 day ago
there's no way to say there is or isn't a god. faith is ALL blind. its easy as hell to shoot holes in the bible....its a hunk of shit.
rjohnston96 1 day ago
Individually one can have the experience of God, or one can have the.. non-experience of God. Other than that, we speak of beliefs, atheist or theist belief. What's really worrying is that atheists have now reach the point of fundamentalist fanaticism and they're embracing the worst of what they usually denounce: they wage a new war of beliefs, sort of a new war of religion, and they seem unable to realize it.They prove nothing but want to impose that naught on people. Pathetic. And frightening
LKloup 1 day ago
Give me one, just one argument that proves unicorns don't exist. Do you now see the problem with your question? I believe a pink guineapig sits on my shoulder. He's name is Marvin. Can you unarguably prove his nonexistence? The point is one can't disprove an unobservable being or object.. Religious people's complete lack of logical thinking always amuses me..
LLaappee 1 day ago
Come up with 1 to prove god... The glasses you're wearing are made by man... The YouTube u r using is an invention of a human.. And finally the language you are speaking is an evolutionary result of a thousand years of humans... If you trust god exists why use all things made by man... Sit by a tree n pray your life out....
deepikadurag0 1 day ago
Your an Idiot.
On one side we have hundreds of years of scientific research to back up our scientific " theories".
You have a man on a cloud who hates the gays.
And you have the gaul to issue us a challenge of the burden of proof.
Your argument is...... "Just because something cannot be proven false,it must therefore be true.
In which case can you prove to me that there isn't a spaghetti goblin that spends its time chilling on the moon waiting for the next humans return.
Oh wait....
XposureVideo 1 day ago
it's a one of those things thats answered with a question, since i don't believe in any gods. can you prove to me why another god isn't real? your pick. the problem with your question is simply that i have nothing to prove. i find your evidance lacking, just as much as i find any evidance for any other god or god's to be nothing more than stories or boogiemen.
GreaseStain 1 day ago
No religions are true. It's all a sham
sartoretto007 1 day ago 21
@sartoretto007 You may say "no religions are true", but religion is true. If you can comprehend what I'm saying. Religion is simply how you live your life, through following your beliefs. So everyone has a religion. Atheism is one too; as it's been classed. But it may as well be called apathy instead, since that's moreso what it is. Life is easy without much self-discipline, which is why most people are atheist.
JustElijah 10 hours ago
@JustElijah Your view on atheists is one of the biggest misconceptions of atheism by theists. Atheists do not lack self discipline; it's just that instead of choosing to follow rules on the fear of supernatural retribution by a being that may or may not exist, we choose to follow self discipline based on the societal instincts that are ingrained into us by millenia of evolution as social beings, and to act towards other people in the same way that we want to be treated as in turn.
rk23263 10 hours ago
@rk23263 Your view on theists is one of the biggest misconceptions of theism by atheists. We don't do it out of fear. Well I can't speak for everyone, but I do it for myself. Since you probably don't know too much about it, I can tell you with a sure knowledge that nothing but good can come from following the "rules", which would only help you become the best version of yourself possible. If you were to see the whole grand scheme of life, it would make more sense.
JustElijah 9 hours ago
Your challange only shows that you do not understand atheists. I do not try to debunk god. I just don't see a reason to believe in any gods. There is a myriad of claims about divine beings and spirits, and I don't believe any of them.
To further ilustrate my point: I bet you don't believe that the world was created by Kutkh, the Raven God. Neither do I. You just believe in one of the many religions. I don't, because to me, the god of Abraham makes just as much sense as Kutkh, the mighty raven.
Daudeoz76 1 day ago
God's existence?
If someone says "I saw God" he's crazy. If someone says "I saw a Werewolf".... same thing
ArgonianDude 1 day ago
@ArgonianDude They aren't crazy. If you can't say what God looks like, so you can compare that with what they said they saw, who are you to say they saw nothing? There isn't any reason for anyone to lie about stuff like that, but even if they didn't and thought they did, you still cannot deny their testimony. It is theirs, whether you have proof of its legitimacy or not.
JustElijah 9 hours ago
the annotations.
SKYsTHeLiMiTuKNo 1 day ago
Captions anyone?
MATANUI720 1 day ago
first let's define god... ''the creator''... ''all powerful''... so can he create something more powerful than himself? the very idea is fundamentally flawed.
dannyizgodd 1 day ago
The burden of proof lies upon those who make the claim that God exists.
GmRebelliousV 1 day ago
@IslamicCollection
If there is no god you can prove to exist then there's no god we must have to debunk. Get the simple logic? It's a circular argument. I'm not saying I completely don't believe in someone more superior than us (a 4-Euclidean Dimensioned being is far more superior) but your argument is childlike and embarrasing.
Debunk the existence of my "god" which is identically same to yours and i will CONVERT
uLtimaMusikA 1 day ago
fuck you are dumb
eh411108 1 day ago
Prove to me that I am not god
badpunchline 1 day ago
@badpunchline omg god !! :D is this like "find waldo" ? do i get a price now ? a VIP place in heaven ? xD
picorettte 1 day ago
your an idiot
AlexGriff24 1 day ago
the burden of proof is not with us... can you disprove the existence of any Freddy Kreugar?
alzopunk 2 days ago
@IslamCollection
You are right. We atheists cannot debunk the existence of God, and no intelligent atheist I have come across so far has claimed to do so. The only ones who claim to be able to debunk God, are morons who throw around strawman arguments.
I think one of my favorite posters sums it up best.
"Look, nobody really knows where all this came from but I'd rather trust the dudes in lab coats who aren't demanding I get up every Sunday morning to overdress and apologize for being human."
Viper4382 2 days ago
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answers: dinosaurs, Australopithecus, zombies are not real (therefore how can jesus exist?), cancer, starving christian children, sumerians had similar religious ideas before including a flood story. my hope is that one day you will be released from samsara and be content with reality.
DrDoItDub 2 days ago
religion is religion..its impossible to prove or dis prove which makes it genius...9/10 ppl believe in what they were raised to believe..if the parents were christians, theyre christians.but answer me this. theres hundreds of religions in this world. whose to say yours is right????
tiddles360 2 days ago
i dont think anyone has 1 argument to dispute unicorns
GoGrishaGo 2 days ago
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@GoGrishaGo well excepting that the origin can actually be traced to england and stories handed down for centuries to kings eager not to be poisoned and handed stories about the ability of unicorn horns to detoxify the most toxic of drinks with evidence provided by narwhale horns...
but then science can't prove the big bang either except to say 15 or so billion years ago and we don't know why...
the question is not, to be or not to be...
it is, why is being...
idiotsnightmare 2 days ago
Evolution?
TheMightyPnut 2 days ago
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@TheMightyPnut you think the mighty mighty that started the whole ball of wax doesn't work by the methods that it created?
evolution is a natural process, which by definition would have been set in motion by the creator of all natural processes...
evolution is incidental and a nonstarter in an argument against god...
against religion, and specific religions fine... but not the idea of god...
you are just too small minded to see beyond the words of men...
idiotsnightmare 2 days ago
iSTOP WAVING YOUR FINGER YOU ARROGANT ISLAMIC FUCK! WAVING YOUR FINGER DOESN'T MEAN WHAT YR SAYING IS RIGHT. IT'S JUST SOME THREAT 'YOU BETTER SAY I'M RIGHT' NO WONDER PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE PRIMITIVE
calabiyou 2 days ago
Atheism is relatively new. It is, whether you believe it or not, the invention of the Jesuit priesthood who created freemasonry and the Illuminati, and who were in turn created and sanctioned by the Catholic Church. All of this can be researched online. The Catholic Church are hell bent on world domination. And have decided the Fascism most closely resembles the ideals of the Catholic Church. The NWO is coming, the anti-Christ is coming. No one will escape except the true Church of Jesus Christ
crustydownunder 2 days ago
@crustydownunder You're a fucking idiot. Atheism existed as far back as ancient greece.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
@ScientificBob you know it all worm, I'm looking at the origins of Atheism right now and it says it had it's beginnings in the 16th century but wasn't openly admitted to until the 18th century. Anything before then was called something else. Most every culture on the face of the planet believed in a god. And who the *^&% asked you.
crustydownunder 13 hours ago
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@crustydownunder "Anything before then was called something else"
You're looking at the origin of the WORD instead of the origin of a worldview that doesn't include supernatural entities.
"Most every culture on the face of the planet believed in a god" So? There was a time that everybody believe that the earth was the center of the solar system. That didn't make it correct, now did it?
"who the *^&% asked you." It's a public forum.
ScientificBob 2 hours ago
@ScientificBob Actually, atheism existed as far back as humans existed.
fightingBarbie 9 minutes ago
We can't disprove god but you can't prove it neither. Scientifically, if you can't prove something, you can't say it exist.
philhimself99 2 days ago
@philhimself99 So evolution doesn't exist because you don't have proof. And don't say you do. If you were as smart as you are going to say you are, you would already know that evolution is based on lies. Only people who have never studied evolution for themselves believe it's true. Strange, atheists say we believe in a myth, but they believe in a lie. And I can prove God is real, take a look around you. Evolution? No, creation. The whole intent of evolution is to deny God. Why?
crustydownunder 2 days ago
@crustydownunder Sorry, if you read my last post correctly, I say that i CAN'T prove any of the theories. But that fact is, in 2000 years of written history, we found NO PROOFS that EITHER RELIGION or EVOLUTION is accurate. If you disagree with this, we don't have the same definition of what a proof is.
philhimself99 2 days ago
@philhimself99 Mmm. Sorry if I confused you. What is proof? That would be a whole other can of worms. People say I believe in a fairytale, but the bible has proved its accuracy over and over again. I don't believe in God because a book told me too, I believe in God because He revealed Himself to me, just as He did to others in the bible. The bible is for us to use to confirm what His Spirit reveals to us personally. No one can understand that unless they have experienced it first.
crustydownunder 2 days ago
@crustydownunder Unless you read the definition of a PROOF and that you PROOVE ME the existance of God, we better stop this discution. However, if you can PROOVE me the existance of God, i will be glad to tell you that you were right. Since you don't seem to understand what a PROOF is, please get the wisdom to accept your ignorance. I accept mine. WE JUST DON'T KNOW! Nothing as been proven scientifically.
philhimself99 2 days ago
@philhimself99 Then I feel sad for you. Always you want scientific proof. Do you need science to tell you if you have never learned to swim, that you will drown in water? How does a baby know to hold it's breath underwater? How do all animals know how to swim at birth. Somethings need no proof, they are just known on the inside of us. Don't live your whole life looking for proof, because sometimes even proof cannot be seen. Like the wind moves the trees, but it cannot be seen.
crustydownunder 2 days ago
@crustydownunder As I knew, you didn't prove anything. I respect your opinion, I just don't think it makes sense at all. Concerning the swimming issue, there is something called genes. It doesn't mean god did anything in there. For wind moving trees, it's very simple to prove. Now, with all respect, please accept that you might not know everything. Constantly putting things in question is a sign of intelligence. Being stubborn is ... well the opposite ;) I feel sorry for you too
philhimself99 2 days ago
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@philhimself99 all i want you to do is explain why the universe started... because he might say we don't need god to explain the results... hawking fails to say what made it all kick off...
idiotsnightmare 2 days ago
@crustydownunder "Always you want scientific proof" Can you give an alternative with at least equally accurate results?
"How does a baby know to hold it's breath underwater?" It's called a "natural relfex". Much like breathing itself.
"Like the wind moves the trees, but it cannot be seen. " it can be measure. Dumbass.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
@ScientificBob I said it can't be seen, and it can't. So, nature, with no brain or intelligence, understands the concept of drowning? You are so deceived. You people never answer the questions, you always slid off topic. You call everyone else stupid because they believe differently. How arrogant is that? You are not smart, you simply repeat everything you heard someone else say. You have no original thought or idea. You are the root of the problem asshole, not the solution.
crustydownunder 13 hours ago
@crustydownunder "I said it can't be seen, and it can't" That doesn't matter. It's still detectable. You implied that wind has no evidence because it 'can't be seen'. That's just plain wrong.
"So, nature, with no brain or intelligence, understands the concept of drowning" No. And I have no idea how you got that from what I said. Go read it again.
"You are so deceived" About what and by whom?
ScientificBob 2 hours ago
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@crustydownunder shut up ass... the bible has been proven to be full of shit time and time again... there are two creation stories that contradict each other... there are two geneologies of christ that contradict each other... the book of job has god sitting around with the devil and making bets on the outcome of his praise or denial of god... the bible is shit made up by men...
but god,
god,
now that is a whole different idea,
is there a creator?
idiotsnightmare 2 days ago
@crustydownunder "the bible has proved its accuracy over and over again"
LOL
No it hasn't. The entire old testament is pure gibberish that's been falsified a thousand times over. As for the new testament... anecdotal bullocks, written down decades to centuries after the alledged events, with absolutely NOTHING to back up any of the things that matter to the religion.
ScientificBob 1 day ago
@ScientificBob See, you answer me again, with a lie. The bible has been proved accurate. Almost ever ancient discovery has been made using the bible for a guide, don't lie, just admit it. As for the new testament, it was written by not one or two eye witnesses but five. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul. So again, you spin another lie. You call yourself scientificbob, but all you have is lies. How sad for your mother. Just like the things you believe, lies.
crustydownunder 13 hours ago
@crustydownunder "The bible has been proved accurate" No, it hasn't. Do you wish to continue this stupdi yes/no game or are you finally gonna back up your statement with something verifiable?
"Almost ever ancient discovery has been made using the bible for a guide" For example?
"it was written by not one or two eye witnesses" None of authors are eyewitnesses, unless they lived to be +120 in an age where the average life span was like 27.
ScientificBob 2 hours ago
@crustydownunder "evolution doesn't exist because you don't have proof"
LOL
Perhaps if you ignore everything we know about biology, bio-chemistry, molecular biology, genetic and the solid convergence with physics, geology and archeology.
You're a freaking moron. Or a troll. Or a Poe.
I seriously hope you're just a Poe. But I fear you're just stupid.
ScientificBob 1 day ago 10
@ScientificBob Seriously, you want to go there? biology, bio-chemistry, molecular biology, genetic, no one I know working in this field believes in evolution, and they'd be thrown out of their respective research labs for saying so. They are funded by evolutionist. It's all a big lie, and you are sucked right into it. As for geology and archeology, more lies, there are strict limits to variation that are never crossed, something every breeder of animals or plants is aware of.
crustydownunder 12 hours ago
@crustydownunder the biggest lie is religion..that organization pays no tax nice business they have going and all u religious fools have been sucked in... lol! it's mind slavery you fool..you have no free thought.. you are controlled thou shall not steal... thou shall not kill... thou shall give the church more money...lol
gtman5 10 hours ago
@crustydownunder "no one I know working in this field believes in evolution" That's probably because you actually don't know anyone who is actually working in those fields. Disagreeing with the scientific consensus is one thing, but flat out denying that there is a scientific consensus puts you into an entirely new category of stupido.
ScientificBob 2 hours ago
@crustydownunder "and they'd be thrown out of their respective research labs for saying so" Well, duh. A doctor would also be fired from a hospital for denying Germ Theory and being a proponent of the "demonic posessesion hypothesis", and rightfully so.
"geology and archeology, more lies" Yes, yes. ALL science that doesn't agree with your bronze-book is a lie. It's a global conspiracy and they all work for the devil!!!1!!!111
Welcome in the 21st century, the age of reason
ScientificBob 2 hours ago
Can god make a rock so heavy even he can' t lift it?
jeanwearinfool 2 days ago
@jeanwearinfool Yes he can. Is there a rock so heavy God cannot lift it, No.
crustydownunder 2 days ago
When someone makes an extraordinary claim, it has to be backed up by some sort of proof or explanation. Theists claim there is a good, the burden of proof is with them.
I can show you how stupid your argument is by just twisting it around against you:
Give me ONE.. ONE proof there are no invisible unicorns flying in deep space, who are responsible for every natural fenomena.
marianopicco 2 days ago
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crustydownunder 2 days ago
@crustydownunder Mmm, some one didn't have a come back.
crustydownunder 12 hours ago
lol i like what his mullet said at 0:32
seanmathews009 2 days ago
I have a challenge for you prove there is a god.
hcox420 2 days ago
An atheist's perspective specifically in the field of god...? I'd like to know about an atheist's perspective, specifically in the field of cakes.
Atheists DO have arguments against the existence of god, and not only against the existence of your god but all of them. But lets say that you're right and atheists don't have arguments against the existence of any god. By your logic all of these gods must exist... Are you doing all you can to avoid the wrath of shiva?
jdusfm 2 days ago
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jdusfm 2 days ago
Once you have proven god. Which god? Why not gods or goddess. I know there is no god because no-one has proven other wise.
Alchemaya2014 2 days ago
This man is stupid. He needs to understand that the burdan of proof is on him(or other religious crazys) that god exists. Take bigfoot or the lochness monster for example. There is MORE proof that they exist than god.
darrylsh 2 days ago
The thing is, we don't see, feel or hear god, so why would we believe in him? You'd have to come up with 1, i repeat 1 good reason for us, to believe in the existence of a god.
As an example, I believe in fairies, you don't. Then I don't proceed to ask you why you wouldn't believe in fairies, NO! I would proceed to tell you, what it's all about, show you a fairy etc. etc.
Oh yeah, fairies don't exist, neither does your god.
TheSarophas 2 days ago
Can god create a boulder so big and heavy that even he can't lift it?
TravisTrixta85 2 days ago
I'm assuming that you only believe in one god, you're monotheist, and based on that assumption you only believe in the god that you were taught to believe in and therefore dismiss all other gods. In this case you're atheist about all gods except your own. You dont believe in zeus, why not? You cannot disprove zeus, but this isnt a reason to worship him either is it? The same is true for atheism, just because god cant be disproved doesnt mean you should believe in him.
permedmammoth 2 days ago
Here's an argument... If god is real where is he. Why would he let so much violence go on the world. I lost my faith long ago and discovered the truth... Science. Explain evolution, Explain how god was created.
sartoretto007 2 days ago
@sartoretto007 He's not trying to prove there is a god. He's asking you to prove there isn't. Answers exist independent of our knowing them, so his question stands. I can't answer it, but no question on any subject disproves the possibility of the world having been created by a sentient being, which is all "god" means. They are just questions we don't know the answer to. Perhaps it all fits together and we just don't know how. You could say that for literally anything, including atheism.
potentperson 2 days ago
God = An All Powerful Being
An All powerful being can do Anything
Can god create a Rock too heavy for him to lift?
If yes -> Not all powerful
If No -> Not all powerful
Therefore an All powerful being is impossible therefore a god cannot exist.
Your Welcome :)
Daly2893 2 days ago
@Daly2893 All-powerful with things logical... Of course God Can't make a ROck to heavy for him to lift because that is not logical. But lets say that he could make something to big for him to lift due to him being all powerful with things even illogical. After he made the rock to big for him to lift... He would just go ahead and lift it... Cause lifting a rock to big for him to lift is illogical.
Your invalid argument is INVALID.
And they say we Christians have horrible arguments.
7waystosunday 2 days ago
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MrIrishBilly 2 days ago 3
@MrIrishBilly You apparently missed the point of that video, once again.
"love is wise, hatred is foolish"
Don't blind yourself with hatred.
-You seem to have had a bad experience with theists. Remember that people can take any text and with enough bias make it mean to them what they want it to mean. just because people use it to promote hatred doesn't mean that the text is inherently hateful. Look at Mother Teresa.
-P.S. don't be a troll
ZacharyDenverPitts 2 days ago
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MrIrishBilly 2 days ago
@MrIrishBilly
1. No I'm not a Mormon.
2. Why are we born with a sense of right and wrong?
3. I was using Mother Teresa as an example of a christian who did not have prejudices. I just typed the first one that came to mind. A better example would be Damien of Molokai
4. I don't see anything in that last comment that said you were an atheist
5. I don't see how I missed any point that video made, I respectfully disagree with the idea that god is illogical.
6. Can we stop arguing now?
ZacharyDenverPitts 2 days ago
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MrIrishBilly 2 days ago
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MrIrishBilly 2 days ago
You are asking for a negative proof. Such a proof is NOT possible. The burden of proof lies on those positing the existence of such a being, and shifting that burden to the other side is a common fallacy. However, when multiple lines of investigation in cosmology, geology, biology, and other sciences can account for the universe without invoking the supernatural, Bayesian inference would statistically imply that there is a very high probability that no such supernatural forces exist.
phoenixshade3 2 days ago
so this is how a derp looks like?
ranumf 2 days ago
@therealluckystrik3r Damn, I'll let you atheists win this round, but next time Jesus will win. May the lord; our father who art in heaven have mercy on you, and pity you for worshiping false gods. One day Jesus will come down and make America great once more, and on that day no one will deny the lord. Hailleleuiah! Praise Jesus.
Mythodiir 2 days ago
I don't need a video response. Black plague. Killed MILLIONS of "god-believing" people. Why didn't their god protect them? Answer: god doesn't exist. Now your turn, give me an argument that god exists.
heind1993 2 days ago
@heind1993 it says so in the bible.
hahahahhahahaa JK!!
Dodge5278 2 days ago
@Dodge5278 trolled
heind1993 2 days ago
have to ask what degree of proof do you need that god does not exist? Like I mean the only proof anyone can have is that no one has ever seen him. In recent years unless you want to count crackpots from the middleages and if anyone claims to have met him to prove so they need to undergo a psychological evaluation because obviously everyone is going to think they are mental.
Youjtrains 2 days ago