I once remember being on the downwind leg in a 152 for Waco (TX, USA) municipal with my instructor and seeing a flock of geese (it was November) down below me, overtaking me.
Sorry, to call that a "full stall" is misleading. When an airplane stalls, either one wing drops, or the nose drops. Neither of which happened to this airplane. The stall warning horn is usually set several kts above the published stall speed @ MGW. Just because the stall warning horn is going off, doesn't mean the airplane has stalled. To teach, or even advertise, that the airplane is stalling during a landing like that is just plain inaccurate. Nice landing, it just isn't a full stall!
@kciRsnurB the stall warning operates by a change in pressure distribution on the wing, not airspeed. stalls can occur at high airspeeds. the stall warning is set to warn that critical angle of attack is approaching. critical (stalling) angle of attack is not affect by weight.
I can't think of a more satisfying way to end a flight than to have the stall warning come on just as you flare, and then the sound of the tyres contacting the runway on touch down. Really brings a smile to my face when that happens. Of course, not all my flights ended so sweetly though.
Lol i dont want to try that lol when i start flight alone one day i didnt check airspeed in final approach and that was a puf! When i touch the ground lol
Great Job!!!!!!! I noticed you hang out at the ranch... I fly out of MGJ and have to dodge skydivers all the time when FSS doesn't get the memo lol.... Anyways that was a sweet landing.
The horn went off and that is all that matters. When I did my check ride the FAA officer laid a simple rule out. On final approach before touchdown the stall horn better be blaring! Nice landing!!!
Having learned to fly at Spadaro's, I don't think I know any way to land a plane other than a stall. One of my proudest achievemnts over there was to put the engine in idle at 1,500' over the south shore (for a simulated emergency landing), join the downwind for RWY 18, figure the right moment to hook a U turn, set the plane down in a greaser fashion without using flaps and coast all the way to the tiedown spot. Learning there wasn't easy, but I've come to appreciate how that place hones skills.
Hi, Well, having learned to skydive at Spadaro's (1991), I will attest that EITHER runway is indeed "challenging". To be able to put it down "just managing your energy" is indeed a feat! Kudos!
@oibal60 Hi Gerry, I think we have more in common than I suspected since I did my first and a few more skydives at Spadaro's too around the same time period, but I got my real training at The Ranch in Gardiner NY. Learning to fly has been a recent undertaking for me and Bart did most of the training (yelling in my ear). Doing solos there was particularly interesting because you never know when skydivers might be coming in forcing a go-around just as you're on final. I'm ready for my checkride.
Ha! Small world! I've been a member of The Ranch since 1994. I just recently attended the '30th anniversary' this past weekend. Bumped into Skinner, Bruce Chapman, Levent/Sonic, etc. We're still the same bunch ...only with gray hair!
Gerry
D-19579
P.S. Good luck with the check-ride, and, always remember, YOU are PIC !
Hi, Yes, I put two 'shortened' legs - of the tripod into each of the 'map pockets' of the two front seats. The remaining leg - of the tripod - was just placed/adjusted in the 'dead space' behind the seats. I then put my heavy flight-bag right-smack-dab underneath the tripod and 'attached' it to all three legs via a bungee cord. Then I adjusted the vertical shaft so that the camera was at the 'proper level' - just high enuf to get a view of the panel/outside and clear of my bobbing head!
Hi, Thanx! What can I say, I've been exposed, over the years, to several REALLY GOOD instructors! ...and, yep, practice is an important ingredient too!
è l'avvisatore di stallo che suona..il che avviene 5-10 kts prima dello stallo..quindi non E' IN PIENO STALLO:) e cmq ogni atterraggio è un micro stallo!...ciao
@linoleumcarving Yes, I see them all the time when they are far, as they get closer, they become IFO and we talk to them. We also study them when they crash. thanks for question.
@linoleumcarving I haven't shot any of them down yet. It is in the plan though. What makes them float and go so fast is...money. If you have enough money, you can make something to float in the air and go fast too.
Mere inches off the ground my friend ...and also slowly descending ...bleeding off airspeed and energy. The high-nose pitch/attitude (courtesy of the camera lens on top of the instrument cluster) gives the impression of 'height' but it's the WHEELS/TIRES 'way below' that's gonna contact the ground.
yea i have a video just like this but I dont like the stall warning going off unless im actually like 1 inch off the ground. Check out my video, the stall warning goes off and i touch down at the same moment.
Aaaaah, Spadaros! Learned to skydive there back, ummm, in 1993 (Ray Maynard, Dale Hanson...). (MIAS, KHWV), where I rent from, have a 3,000' paved restriction - for insurance purposes.
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Dude I'm sorry but this was not a full stall landing, as Icawood said, the horn will go off anywhere from 5 to 10 knots before the stall (I've seen it go at 20 above on a gusty day). Also, a full stall landing is the term given to a type of tail-dragger landing where the pilot floats the aircraft until the stall at which point all three wheels (two main and the tail) touch down simultaneously. This ensures that you won't bounce back into the air or porpoise, which of course can be devastating.
@oibal60 Of course you are right. But it is true that the term "full stall landing" conventionally describes a tail-dragger landing of the sort described. Upon watching the video again it's certainly possible that he did get the aircraft to stall prior to touchdown, but as I said, it's difficult to say for sure because the stall horn will go early.
@joeywmac have you ever flown a plane.....cause if the gusting wind is causing the stall warning to go off '20kt before the stall speed' then that means that for the wing with the stall warning on it, the relative airflow is close to the stall speed, meaning that wing, and in most cases the other one as well is about to stall. Stalling can happen at any speed it is the angle of the airflow over the wing. Also bouncing isnt devastating or else everyone would die the first time they tried landing
@maxbedford1987 There's really no need for your attitude, I'm very aware of when and why the stall warning horn goes off and although I shouldn't have to justify it to you, I've flown from LSAs through King Airs. Also, the conditions for which the stall horn can go off as much as 20 kt above actual stall speed are created often on approach into a headwind and with full flaps. Experiencing low level wind shear in the flare can create a rapid change in relative airspeed over the wing.
@maxbedford1987 Also, if you read my comment again you'll notice I was referring to porpoising being potentially devastating, not bouncing. This is especially true in tail-wheel aircraft.
@joeywmac Funny thing...i was taxing back to the hangers on a really windy day and i got the stall horn while on the ground. Wasn't taxing too fast either
Well like I said no offence... I guess it's just different types of flying :-) I never go less than 200 feet short of the aiming points I fly a Cessna 172 Skyhawk and dont really have to worry about flying off the end of the runway :-) xD
Ya I fly a 152 and just try to get it down on the numbers. Less taxing and good practice for short field landing I guess. We all have our preferances :)
I fly a T-41 (C-172) and I almost never get a stall horn. In fact, I've only had it once, and it was just as the mains were touching. No biggie here.
It wasn't a "full stall" landing. Stall warning horns typically go off 5-10 knots above stall speed. If it was a full stall he would have slammed it into the runway.
I once remember being on the downwind leg in a 152 for Waco (TX, USA) municipal with my instructor and seeing a flock of geese (it was November) down below me, overtaking me.
Chuckjagerdiver 1 month ago
Full stall?? I didn't see a stall until five feet to touchdown
atntony 2 months ago
nice video but you can't slow up. either you slow down or speed up.
chrisklein21 6 months ago
Perfect.
mattp1803 6 months ago
bro, perfect approach and landing! very good!
andyskateboarder 6 months ago
bad ass, nice job
waterman1976 6 months ago
Sorry, to call that a "full stall" is misleading. When an airplane stalls, either one wing drops, or the nose drops. Neither of which happened to this airplane. The stall warning horn is usually set several kts above the published stall speed @ MGW. Just because the stall warning horn is going off, doesn't mean the airplane has stalled. To teach, or even advertise, that the airplane is stalling during a landing like that is just plain inaccurate. Nice landing, it just isn't a full stall!
kciRsnurB 8 months ago
@kciRsnurB the stall warning operates by a change in pressure distribution on the wing, not airspeed. stalls can occur at high airspeeds. the stall warning is set to warn that critical angle of attack is approaching. critical (stalling) angle of attack is not affect by weight.
steveslike 4 months ago
Yup, that's the way it is done folks.
85iceman 9 months ago
Excelent camera view, very steady! 10/10
andyskateboarder 9 months ago
I can't think of a more satisfying way to end a flight than to have the stall warning come on just as you flare, and then the sound of the tyres contacting the runway on touch down. Really brings a smile to my face when that happens. Of course, not all my flights ended so sweetly though.
shinco52 11 months ago
Great power management, after turning final! Had it nailed - no further changes in power until the roundout. Nice.
mmichaeldonavon 11 months ago
Lol i dont want to try that lol when i start flight alone one day i didnt check airspeed in final approach and that was a puf! When i touch the ground lol
rey2290 1 year ago
if that aweful sound was replaced by a hot womens voice, I would call that a perfect stall landing!
razu2444 1 year ago
Great Job!!!!!!! I noticed you hang out at the ranch... I fly out of MGJ and have to dodge skydivers all the time when FSS doesn't get the memo lol.... Anyways that was a sweet landing.
dave22387 1 year ago
Very nice!
thommitulpe 1 year ago
Very good job. Nice balancing of your craft.
traffety 1 year ago
great landing
eddogbreath 1 year ago
that was solid bro.
OWHSsoccer07 1 year ago
The horn went off and that is all that matters. When I did my check ride the FAA officer laid a simple rule out. On final approach before touchdown the stall horn better be blaring! Nice landing!!!
rappy727 1 year ago
Why do some people think if they stall when landing it's bad but actually that is how a perfect landing is made....
Nice landing : D
desiang1 1 year ago
Having learned to fly at Spadaro's, I don't think I know any way to land a plane other than a stall. One of my proudest achievemnts over there was to put the engine in idle at 1,500' over the south shore (for a simulated emergency landing), join the downwind for RWY 18, figure the right moment to hook a U turn, set the plane down in a greaser fashion without using flaps and coast all the way to the tiedown spot. Learning there wasn't easy, but I've come to appreciate how that place hones skills.
airste172 1 year ago 6
@airste172
Hi, Well, having learned to skydive at Spadaro's (1991), I will attest that EITHER runway is indeed "challenging". To be able to put it down "just managing your energy" is indeed a feat! Kudos!
Gerry
oibal60 1 year ago
@oibal60 Hi Gerry, I think we have more in common than I suspected since I did my first and a few more skydives at Spadaro's too around the same time period, but I got my real training at The Ranch in Gardiner NY. Learning to fly has been a recent undertaking for me and Bart did most of the training (yelling in my ear). Doing solos there was particularly interesting because you never know when skydivers might be coming in forcing a go-around just as you're on final. I'm ready for my checkride.
airste172 1 year ago
@airste172
Ha! Small world! I've been a member of The Ranch since 1994. I just recently attended the '30th anniversary' this past weekend. Bumped into Skinner, Bruce Chapman, Levent/Sonic, etc. We're still the same bunch ...only with gray hair!
Gerry
D-19579
P.S. Good luck with the check-ride, and, always remember, YOU are PIC !
oibal60 1 year ago
@airste172 been there done that, i learn out of FRG and practice at sparado
stealhty1 1 year ago
@airste172 is that a GPS strapped to your yoke? im just curious as ive never seen that before. love the video BTW
BagSmash3r 3 months ago
very nice :)
mrmacio 1 year ago
nice, the way I was taught.
captgrant 1 year ago
Very stabilized approach. Well done.
FlightLevelHeaded 1 year ago
great landing...
paravidinopatrick 1 year ago
beautiful by the book landing, nice job and keep flying
ilikechile 1 year ago
LMFAO, HES STALLING WHILE LANDING
kikpik1 1 year ago
the stall warning kinda sounds like dial-up internet trying to connect hahah
myrandomspaces 1 year ago
nice landing
kade6 1 year ago
NICE LANDING!!
pdowty68 1 year ago
Now thats what i call gettin her down and gettin the hell outta the way!Well done.
FoulOwl 1 year ago
That's how to land a light aircraft with a tricycle undercarriage. The flare and hold-off are absolutely textbook.
bravobravo74 1 year ago
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bravobravo74 1 year ago
Well Done....I'd give that a 10...cheers from Mastic, NY
Jakebliskin 1 year ago
Beautiful landing. So controlled, calm and smooth. Really well done.
PilotBoyGD 1 year ago
I need to get some flying SOON or I will burst!! I see that you did what I want to do with the tripod in the back seat. Did you anchor it?
dfg1958 1 year ago
Hi, Yes, I put two 'shortened' legs - of the tripod into each of the 'map pockets' of the two front seats. The remaining leg - of the tripod - was just placed/adjusted in the 'dead space' behind the seats. I then put my heavy flight-bag right-smack-dab underneath the tripod and 'attached' it to all three legs via a bungee cord. Then I adjusted the vertical shaft so that the camera was at the 'proper level' - just high enuf to get a view of the panel/outside and clear of my bobbing head!
oibal60 1 year ago
Beautiful Landing!
hunterhalo2 1 year ago
gotta love the 100' "runout"
traderjoe1300 1 year ago
Great airspeed bleeding for short field landing roll and turn off the active. Thanks.
tcruz86 1 year ago
Hi, Thanx! What can I say, I've been exposed, over the years, to several REALLY GOOD instructors! ...and, yep, practice is an important ingredient too!
Gerry
oibal60 1 year ago
PERFECT LANDING!
simfgta 2 years ago
Yep...that is definitely rwy 24 @Brookhaven or KHWV
Good Landing !!!
chukli 2 years ago
è l'avvisatore di stallo che suona..il che avviene 5-10 kts prima dello stallo..quindi non E' IN PIENO STALLO:) e cmq ogni atterraggio è un micro stallo!...ciao
ziomaldi71 2 years ago
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WOW have you ever seen a UFO when up in your plane and would you shoot one down so we can study it?
billy
linoleumcarving 2 years ago
@linoleumcarving Yes, I see them all the time when they are far, as they get closer, they become IFO and we talk to them. We also study them when they crash. thanks for question.
skysnet 2 years ago 2
skysnet.............thank you for shooting one down. have you found out how they float in the air and how come they also are so fast too?
billy
linoleumcarving 2 years ago
@linoleumcarving I haven't shot any of them down yet. It is in the plan though. What makes them float and go so fast is...money. If you have enough money, you can make something to float in the air and go fast too.
skysnet 2 years ago 4
@skysnet LOL!
razorflown2 2 years ago
@skysnet i saw that on the kinga ir flight school dvds lol
lapacman26 1 year ago
You've got to be kidding me...
DayJetFan 2 years ago
That was perfect!
gabe096 2 years ago
Picture perfect!! I miss flying!
dave7200 2 years ago
Very Good smooth Captain!
CmteSigwalt 2 years ago
Hey is that a Mid-Island Cessna 152? I flew just about every one of them during training and renting. Whats the tail number? lol
InternetGamesNow 2 years ago
Yep, MIAS indeed!
Those C-152's can 'handle' renters and students ...with aplomb!
oibal60 2 years ago
wow you were pretty high when the stall warning went off. Isnt this slightly dangerous?
keeevan 2 years ago
Mere inches off the ground my friend ...and also slowly descending ...bleeding off airspeed and energy. The high-nose pitch/attitude (courtesy of the camera lens on top of the instrument cluster) gives the impression of 'height' but it's the WHEELS/TIRES 'way below' that's gonna contact the ground.
oibal60 2 years ago
yea i have a video just like this but I dont like the stall warning going off unless im actually like 1 inch off the ground. Check out my video, the stall warning goes off and i touch down at the same moment.
keeevan 2 years ago
@keeevan
Then dismantle your stall-warning.. this is how you should land.
bertjuhh16 1 year ago
Now that's a landing! Way to make the stall horn cry!
drankone4u 2 years ago
Now you need to go east a few miles and do some of those at Spadaro Airport (1N2), then you have the technique for sure! ;)
airste172 2 years ago
Aaaaah, Spadaros! Learned to skydive there back, ummm, in 1993 (Ray Maynard, Dale Hanson...). (MIAS, KHWV), where I rent from, have a 3,000' paved restriction - for insurance purposes.
oibal60 2 years ago
brookhaven??
aviator147 2 years ago
Yup, KHWV.
Gerry
oibal60 2 years ago
great landing!
lankeyshit 2 years ago
wow great!!!
kdes 2 years ago
wow cool landing
alongo34 2 years ago
great!
venclmag2007 2 years ago
Great job!
alieninacan 2 years ago
beautifull job
sniperserg 2 years ago
Perfect! Keep up.
spithakos 2 years ago
nice landiiing!!!!!!!!
josehpxxx 2 years ago
Meh
tjustman 2 years ago
Nice landing, looks like you were just left of the center though.
noahdh 2 years ago
se pasó para aterrizar corto el pelado...
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cessnaman293 2 years ago
nice landing.
Nassault630 2 years ago
nice landing. I'm thinking he wrote "Full stall" meaning he stuck the landing while the stall horn continued to warn of the imminent future.
alan2526 3 years ago 6
Dude I'm sorry but this was not a full stall landing, as Icawood said, the horn will go off anywhere from 5 to 10 knots before the stall (I've seen it go at 20 above on a gusty day). Also, a full stall landing is the term given to a type of tail-dragger landing where the pilot floats the aircraft until the stall at which point all three wheels (two main and the tail) touch down simultaneously. This ensures that you won't bounce back into the air or porpoise, which of course can be devastating.
joeywmac 3 years ago
@joeywmac A wing will stall immaterial of whether there are wheels (conventional or tricycle) underneath it ...or none at all.
oibal60 1 year ago
@oibal60 Of course you are right. But it is true that the term "full stall landing" conventionally describes a tail-dragger landing of the sort described. Upon watching the video again it's certainly possible that he did get the aircraft to stall prior to touchdown, but as I said, it's difficult to say for sure because the stall horn will go early.
joeywmac 1 year ago
@joeywmac have you ever flown a plane.....cause if the gusting wind is causing the stall warning to go off '20kt before the stall speed' then that means that for the wing with the stall warning on it, the relative airflow is close to the stall speed, meaning that wing, and in most cases the other one as well is about to stall. Stalling can happen at any speed it is the angle of the airflow over the wing. Also bouncing isnt devastating or else everyone would die the first time they tried landing
maxbedford1987 9 months ago
@maxbedford1987 There's really no need for your attitude, I'm very aware of when and why the stall warning horn goes off and although I shouldn't have to justify it to you, I've flown from LSAs through King Airs. Also, the conditions for which the stall horn can go off as much as 20 kt above actual stall speed are created often on approach into a headwind and with full flaps. Experiencing low level wind shear in the flare can create a rapid change in relative airspeed over the wing.
joeywmac 7 months ago
@maxbedford1987 Also, if you read my comment again you'll notice I was referring to porpoising being potentially devastating, not bouncing. This is especially true in tail-wheel aircraft.
joeywmac 7 months ago
@joeywmac Funny thing...i was taxing back to the hangers on a really windy day and i got the stall horn while on the ground. Wasn't taxing too fast either
dray22222 7 months ago
@dray22222
That's not funny. What do you call two boobs that look exactly the same? Identitties. Now that's funny.
horseburger 5 months ago
No offence but you missed the aiming points by about 1000 feet... The stalled landing was good it was just a little short on the runway
Spitfire9995 3 years ago
I fly at HWV too and aim land on the numbers not the aiming point.
unitedatc 3 years ago
Well like I said no offence... I guess it's just different types of flying :-) I never go less than 200 feet short of the aiming points I fly a Cessna 172 Skyhawk and dont really have to worry about flying off the end of the runway :-) xD
ledel67 3 years ago
Ya I fly a 152 and just try to get it down on the numbers. Less taxing and good practice for short field landing I guess. We all have our preferances :)
unitedatc 3 years ago
I fly a T-41 (C-172) and I almost never get a stall horn. In fact, I've only had it once, and it was just as the mains were touching. No biggie here.
jochenheiden 3 years ago
It wasn't a "full stall" landing. Stall warning horns typically go off 5-10 knots above stall speed. If it was a full stall he would have slammed it into the runway.
lcawood 3 years ago
Awsome landing..
er1c42 3 years ago
That's a long final right there. And I thought you were supposed to land on the runway centerline...
bigbootbytt 3 years ago
I like your style! Nice job.
mikeb172sp 3 years ago 2
One of the BEST landings I have ever seen!!!! Great job!!!
emidgley 3 years ago 2
nice landing man!! 24 is my fav runway. the REILS are great!!
mrmasr 3 years ago
Sadly, this is the only time you will ever use that landing in your career if you move into larger aircraft. ;)
spyder124 3 years ago 2
nice one! i fly the 150, it's a beautiful aircraft and very easy to fly...
GoJakob 3 years ago
love it when a landing comes toghetter.
stereonipples 3 years ago
Beautifal landing.
engeladam409 4 years ago
professional landing Sir!!!!!
hasjt 4 years ago
Smooth touchdown, especially with the stall horn going strong!
BeechSundowner 4 years ago