These guys are sooooooo touchy. They can use filth and foul language at the Jew all day long, but just let these thin skinned humorless jackals hear something they are too stupid to understand or see someone enjoying themselves and their armpit lice get in an uproar.
Nonetheless, I will endevour to pick up in the near future. In ther meantime, I would recommend Susan Nathan's 'The Other Side of Israel'; she's an Israeli Jew who has written extensivly on the wrongs of Israeli policy. Ilan Pappe has been criticised for alleged inaccuricies, but overal his narrative is generally exact. A number of my sources are of Jewish and Israeli origin.
The commercial shows a bunch of happy commercial actors getting paid. Reality is that Israel has bulldozed territory to make room for themselves and construct walls. The real Jews would would've thrown bombs instead of kicking the ball back with an excuse that the ball was a terroist tactic.
That thing clearly is worse than the Berlin Wall - makes the Israelis look like the glorified prison wardens that they are... particularly sadistic ones. I mean did the East Germans make videos glorifying the guards at the Berlin Wall? I guess they weren't as arrogant as the Israelis who think they can get away with anything... I'd like to think that one day they will go too far... when their reckoning comes it won't be pretty.
The Palestinians are natives, they are descended from Aramaic speakers who in turn were descended from Hebrews. European Jews are colonisers who drove the Palestinians off their land.
Palestinians certainly have a longer history than Americans too.
European Jews were the initial colonists, backed and armed between 1920 and the early 40s by the British. Mizrahim came after Palestinians were ethnically cleansed...
explain the Farhud of 1942 then? Arabs have been abusing Jews since the beggining of there conquering of lands that Jews had lived in be4, dont sht me plz
arab anti semetism is what drove mass migration to Israel, we are glad to now be living in the land of our ancestors, 25% of Ashkenazim live in Israel 90% of Mizrahim live in Israel
It's true that Mizrahim were abused by Arabs, most notably in Egypt and Iraq under Nasser and the Baathists respectibly.I just feel it was wrong that the natives of Palestine, both Muslim and Christian were driven out of their homes. Prior to 48, the right to reside in what is today Israel was not religiously exclusive.Today, settlement expansion continues to drive native Arabs from their lands. A Jew from New York can move to Israel willingly, wheras an Arab driven out in 48 can't.
The historical truth is that the rise to power of Hitler was aided and abetted by wealthy american banking families and jewish banking interests, with the sole intent of driving european jews from where they lived to a mass exodus into israel. The balfour agreement at the end of ww1 gave palestine to both the arabs who helped the english against the turks, and the jewish banking families who got usa into ww1 as promised as their payoff
@jeffdolan LOL learn history, educate yourself. the majority of "Palestinians" are work immigrants who came to british mandate to get jobs. Where were the "palestinians" before 6 day war? why haven;t they demanded sovereignty till then?
ignorance is your way.
By the way you also reveal yourself as nazi and racist, for your information any one can become a Jew, by embracing Jewish way of life. FYI sephardic and ashkenaz jews share the same genes, but this shouldn't worry you unless u're NAZI
1. Do you have figueres, statistics, etc to prove this?
2. The presence of a Christian community, and Christian churches, goiung back millenia, is more proof of the authenticity of Palestinians being native. Besides, even if there are Palestinians whose families dids only arrive durting the mandate, why should a person with one Jewish grandparent who arrived in say the 1990s have more of a right to live there than the aforementioned Palestinian.
for 2000 years, do have an idea how many holocausts have happened? But there are some people who claim that even the last one is a myth, many of them "Palestinians". Do you know who is Abu-Mazen? He is the chairman of Pal. authority, if you don't know. Do you know that he has "Ph.d", his work is all about Holocaust denial.
Israel is a tiny state, have you looked at the map? Arabs own the whole Middle East but they cant sleep, knowing that there is tiny tiny Jewish state around.
3. Namecalling. Please. I said nothing of the sort to equate me with the murderous ideology of nazism.
If you wish to disagree with me, fine. Please, though, try not gto stoop to the level of the gutter by engaging in such wanton verbal garbage. Using 'nazi' as a putdown is offensive to the memory of those Jews, Roma and others who dies at the hands of an evil ideology. Shame on you. Perhaps you are too immature to come on forums like this; stick to video games and junk food.
1.I have a phenomena called "Todaro Paradox" to prove my point.
2.Jews have had presence in land , that had been called "Palestine" by Romans, for more then 4000 years."...say the 1990s" - so you tell that the rightful owner of the land is the one who was the first in the land. But Jews had owned these lands long before these have been conquered and re conquered.The only ethnic group who may have claimed these lands is Philistine people, who have nothing to do with "Palestinians".
3. Dude I can see through you, by distinguishing between Mizrahim and Ashkenazim, and calling Ashkenazim "colonists" you try to make a claim - European Jews have no rights on this land. From you words it's clear that European Jews are to be blamed, yeah and the Brits of course. But maybe you too immature and lack of basic knowledge of the region to discuss such matters.In case Brits would have wanted to assist Jews, they could leave boarders of mandate open and stop Arab immigration
Dude. That's nicer. It's a lot more pleasant than nazi. My main problem, Duke, with this whole sad and sorry affair is the fact that someone with one Jewish grandparent is allowed to move and get citizenship to what is now Israel. A Palestinian, Christian or Muslim, whose family go back millenia, and who was kicked out of Jaffa or Haifa by the Stern and Irgun, has no nright of return.That's discrimination right there, both sectarian and ethnic.
That mufti had met Hitler and demanded the final solution for the Jews of the mandate, he also recruited SS division of Bosnian Muslims who became notorious for their cruelty. After the end of WW2, UN divided what left from the mandate after Jordan had been created and Jews should have received a tiny tiny land with ridiculous borders, but were happy to get any state.The endless attempts of the Arab states to destroy the only Jewish state, are known to anyone who wants to know
My second preoblem is that settlements continue to be built on land expropriated from small farmers in the West Bank, again many of whom have had since Ottoman times or earlier. Anyone with one Jewish grtandparent can again buy into these settlements and live there. That'd be like someone with one Irish American grandparent coming to present day Northern Ireland, and kicking a Protestant out of their home.
Brits had divided the mandate and created Jordan (state that never existed before), that supposed to be the state for the Arabs who had lived in mandate. But it seems that this wasn't enough and they demanded more. To understand the true intentions of the "Palestinians" (by the way during the mandate times this name was given to Jews who came to live there, Arabs preferred to be called Jordanians, Egyptians or Syrians), make a little research about mufti of Jerusalem at that time.
I'm Irish, and I donj't think that, because English and Scots Protestant settlers brutally ethnically cleansed Ulster of the Irish, a present day U.S citizen has the right to kick a Protestant out of their home in present day Northern Ireland, just because the formeer has one Irish Amnerican grandparent.
It's ludicrous to think such a policy would be feasible. The Plantation of Ulster only occured 400 years ago. Israel allows claims based on a loss that happened 2000 years ago!
@dukef4 At the end of the day, an individual has the right to settle anywhere so long as that individual does so peacefully, without forcing people from their homes. The settlers in the west bank are anything but peaceful. There is also a curious contradiction in their alleged reverewnce for the land, given that the settlement of Ariel has been engaged in deliberate pollution of adjoing Palestinan farms and springs; raw sewage has been literally pumped down into those lands, in an effort to expl
Hi again. I see many Irish people who support "Palestinians", and I see that the reason is your tragic history. But your parallels are completely not suitable for the situation. It's easy nowadays to depict Israel as the ruthless occupant, but you Europeans even don't bother to dig a little. When Jews had arrived to the mandate, Brits ruled the area and Jews, there hadn't been Jewish state. About Arab hostility you can learn from massacre that have taken place in Hebron, theremore
The last thing man. I believe that humans are equal in their right to exist, but this is not the case when it comes to ideas they believe in. Nowadays we witness the uprising of Islamism around the Globe, this why we want have peace. "Palestinians" are just a tool, to hurt Israel and Jews. All the exposure is only due to oil $. You'll never hear about Darfut on TV, about massacres of Christians in Kenya, or prosecutions of Christians in Gaza, slavery in Saudi Arabia...
Fair play for making this a civil discussion, and dutifuly acknowledging our own exerience. You make many ponts, including some very valid ones regarding Islamist extremism, for which I'm no apologiust. I do feel, however, my points on the settlements, and land grabs still stand. I don't have time to go into this much further for now; prefewrably, a chat over a pint or two in a snug bar on a rainy afternoon would be preferable to a youtube board...
In the meantime, I wish you the very best. Do endevourt to hold the temper. I know from both my own misdeeds and those of my island's history that prsenting ones own side of the argument helps aid dialoguie, open up new paradigms of thinking and helps one to meet new and interesting peopleThe 'new paradigms' is especially interesting; it's not only limited to compromising, but presenting a third dimension previuosly unseen by either party!
@dukef4 I recently had the pleasure of engaging, at times emphatic, discussion with an affable young Ameruican Jewish chap here in Dublin. Neither of us actually 'converted' the other but we nonetheless left on a positive note.Happy days.
I apologies for calling you 'nazi', I misinterpreted your post, at first sight it looked like another claim that European Jews and Mizrahi Jews have nothing in common, despite the recent genetic researches.
There had been no "palestinians" before 60's. But the terror attacks on Jewish state has been much before, when the attackers called themselves Jordanians and Egyptians, and general name for such squads had been "Fedaayun" (or something like that).
Please don't tell about discrimination. Since the times Jews had been expelled from these lands, every place Jews stayed they were butchered and humiliated (there are some exceptions).
I guess you mama never slapped that foul mouth out of ya.
The Palestinians should thank Israel for all the opportunities that they have given them to overthrow their wicked leaders. Its on them that they never have.
These guys are sooooooo touchy. They can use filth and foul language at the Jew all day long, but just let these thin skinned humorless jackals hear something they are too stupid to understand or see someone enjoying themselves and their armpit lice get in an uproar.
Definition of a P.I.G.
Palestinian
In
Gaza!
Am Yisrael Chai!!
reginaDexant 1 year ago
Muslim are alway angered by ridiculously little facts.
seriousbe 1 year ago
Nonetheless, I will endevour to pick up in the near future. In ther meantime, I would recommend Susan Nathan's 'The Other Side of Israel'; she's an Israeli Jew who has written extensivly on the wrongs of Israeli policy. Ilan Pappe has been criticised for alleged inaccuricies, but overal his narrative is generally exact. A number of my sources are of Jewish and Israeli origin.
jeffdolan 1 year ago
what a pathetic ad
killerkitty777 2 years ago
go fuck off yourself!! bastard antonberk! u r an asswhole u and people like u!
amorosanad 2 years ago
fuck you all palastines!!!! i like this ad even that i hate palastines!! this ad shows that we can get alone
antonberk 2 years ago
The commercial shows a bunch of happy commercial actors getting paid. Reality is that Israel has bulldozed territory to make room for themselves and construct walls. The real Jews would would've thrown bombs instead of kicking the ball back with an excuse that the ball was a terroist tactic.
neolestat13 2 years ago
That thing clearly is worse than the Berlin Wall - makes the Israelis look like the glorified prison wardens that they are... particularly sadistic ones. I mean did the East Germans make videos glorifying the guards at the Berlin Wall? I guess they weren't as arrogant as the Israelis who think they can get away with anything... I'd like to think that one day they will go too far... when their reckoning comes it won't be pretty.
lordhighexecutioner 2 years ago
Of course it's worse this wall prevent kill jews and it's so bad.
alexei3333 2 years ago
Hey, I like soccer. And if the Israeli's have to build a wall in order to have a peaceful game, so be it.
I'll tell you what, those young Palestinians would rather be playing soccer than blowing themselves up for their wicked Islamic devil filled leaders.
When will the Palestinian Arabs revolt against their leadership. Israel has given them tons of opportunities.
4U2TakeBackAmerica 2 years ago
This is racist!
Reqrezentin 2 years ago
Those Poor innocent Palistinians, I wish those Israeli's would stop using Suicide Bombers against them.
By the way, there is no such people as Palestinians. That's the big joke.
Their Arabs.
They have no history as a people.
4U2TakeBackAmerica 2 years ago
The Palestinians are natives, they are descended from Aramaic speakers who in turn were descended from Hebrews. European Jews are colonisers who drove the Palestinians off their land.
Palestinians certainly have a longer history than Americans too.
jeffdolan 2 years ago
Palestinians didn't exist before the 1960's.
whyzeee2 2 years ago 5
Palestinians existed as a creation of PLO Arafat.
That fat murdering slob.
4U2TakeBackAmerica 2 years ago
@whyzeee2
dumbass whites have existed since white race was established.
Intifada1981 1 year ago
EUROPEAN JEWS WHO SUFFERED IN THE HOLOCAUST AND CAME ORIGIONALLY FROM THIS LAND ARE ONLY 46% OF THE jEWISH POPULATION
50% R MIZRAHIM (like me) WHO WERE E X P E L L E D BY THE ARABS, SO DONT SHIT ME U RETARD
BamenYaros 2 years ago
To Bamen Yaros,
European Jews were the initial colonists, backed and armed between 1920 and the early 40s by the British. Mizrahim came after Palestinians were ethnically cleansed...
jeffdolan 2 years ago
explain the Farhud of 1942 then? Arabs have been abusing Jews since the beggining of there conquering of lands that Jews had lived in be4, dont sht me plz
arab anti semetism is what drove mass migration to Israel, we are glad to now be living in the land of our ancestors, 25% of Ashkenazim live in Israel 90% of Mizrahim live in Israel
BamenYaros 2 years ago
Bamen,
It's true that Mizrahim were abused by Arabs, most notably in Egypt and Iraq under Nasser and the Baathists respectibly.I just feel it was wrong that the natives of Palestine, both Muslim and Christian were driven out of their homes. Prior to 48, the right to reside in what is today Israel was not religiously exclusive.Today, settlement expansion continues to drive native Arabs from their lands. A Jew from New York can move to Israel willingly, wheras an Arab driven out in 48 can't.
jeffdolan 2 years ago
which is y there has 2 b 2 states for two peoples nd eachmcan return to their homeland, but 1948 + Population Exchange,
BamenYaros 2 years ago
The historical truth is that the rise to power of Hitler was aided and abetted by wealthy american banking families and jewish banking interests, with the sole intent of driving european jews from where they lived to a mass exodus into israel. The balfour agreement at the end of ww1 gave palestine to both the arabs who helped the english against the turks, and the jewish banking families who got usa into ww1 as promised as their payoff
mikeoli 2 years ago
@jeffdolan LOL learn history, educate yourself. the majority of "Palestinians" are work immigrants who came to british mandate to get jobs. Where were the "palestinians" before 6 day war? why haven;t they demanded sovereignty till then?
ignorance is your way.
By the way you also reveal yourself as nazi and racist, for your information any one can become a Jew, by embracing Jewish way of life. FYI sephardic and ashkenaz jews share the same genes, but this shouldn't worry you unless u're NAZI
dukef4 1 year ago
@dukef4
1. Do you have figueres, statistics, etc to prove this?
2. The presence of a Christian community, and Christian churches, goiung back millenia, is more proof of the authenticity of Palestinians being native. Besides, even if there are Palestinians whose families dids only arrive durting the mandate, why should a person with one Jewish grandparent who arrived in say the 1990s have more of a right to live there than the aforementioned Palestinian.
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
for 2000 years, do have an idea how many holocausts have happened? But there are some people who claim that even the last one is a myth, many of them "Palestinians". Do you know who is Abu-Mazen? He is the chairman of Pal. authority, if you don't know. Do you know that he has "Ph.d", his work is all about Holocaust denial.
Israel is a tiny state, have you looked at the map? Arabs own the whole Middle East but they cant sleep, knowing that there is tiny tiny Jewish state around.
dukef4 1 year ago
@dukef4
3. Namecalling. Please. I said nothing of the sort to equate me with the murderous ideology of nazism.
If you wish to disagree with me, fine. Please, though, try not gto stoop to the level of the gutter by engaging in such wanton verbal garbage. Using 'nazi' as a putdown is offensive to the memory of those Jews, Roma and others who dies at the hands of an evil ideology. Shame on you. Perhaps you are too immature to come on forums like this; stick to video games and junk food.
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
1.I have a phenomena called "Todaro Paradox" to prove my point.
2.Jews have had presence in land , that had been called "Palestine" by Romans, for more then 4000 years."...say the 1990s" - so you tell that the rightful owner of the land is the one who was the first in the land. But Jews had owned these lands long before these have been conquered and re conquered.The only ethnic group who may have claimed these lands is Philistine people, who have nothing to do with "Palestinians".
dukef4 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
3. Dude I can see through you, by distinguishing between Mizrahim and Ashkenazim, and calling Ashkenazim "colonists" you try to make a claim - European Jews have no rights on this land. From you words it's clear that European Jews are to be blamed, yeah and the Brits of course. But maybe you too immature and lack of basic knowledge of the region to discuss such matters.In case Brits would have wanted to assist Jews, they could leave boarders of mandate open and stop Arab immigration
dukef4 1 year ago
@dukef4
Dude. That's nicer. It's a lot more pleasant than nazi. My main problem, Duke, with this whole sad and sorry affair is the fact that someone with one Jewish grandparent is allowed to move and get citizenship to what is now Israel. A Palestinian, Christian or Muslim, whose family go back millenia, and who was kicked out of Jaffa or Haifa by the Stern and Irgun, has no nright of return.That's discrimination right there, both sectarian and ethnic.
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
That mufti had met Hitler and demanded the final solution for the Jews of the mandate, he also recruited SS division of Bosnian Muslims who became notorious for their cruelty. After the end of WW2, UN divided what left from the mandate after Jordan had been created and Jews should have received a tiny tiny land with ridiculous borders, but were happy to get any state.The endless attempts of the Arab states to destroy the only Jewish state, are known to anyone who wants to know
dukef4 1 year ago
@dukef4
My second preoblem is that settlements continue to be built on land expropriated from small farmers in the West Bank, again many of whom have had since Ottoman times or earlier. Anyone with one Jewish grtandparent can again buy into these settlements and live there. That'd be like someone with one Irish American grandparent coming to present day Northern Ireland, and kicking a Protestant out of their home.
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
Brits had divided the mandate and created Jordan (state that never existed before), that supposed to be the state for the Arabs who had lived in mandate. But it seems that this wasn't enough and they demanded more. To understand the true intentions of the "Palestinians" (by the way during the mandate times this name was given to Jews who came to live there, Arabs preferred to be called Jordanians, Egyptians or Syrians), make a little research about mufti of Jerusalem at that time.
dukef4 1 year ago
@dukef4
I'm Irish, and I donj't think that, because English and Scots Protestant settlers brutally ethnically cleansed Ulster of the Irish, a present day U.S citizen has the right to kick a Protestant out of their home in present day Northern Ireland, just because the formeer has one Irish Amnerican grandparent.
It's ludicrous to think such a policy would be feasible. The Plantation of Ulster only occured 400 years ago. Israel allows claims based on a loss that happened 2000 years ago!
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@dukef4 At the end of the day, an individual has the right to settle anywhere so long as that individual does so peacefully, without forcing people from their homes. The settlers in the west bank are anything but peaceful. There is also a curious contradiction in their alleged reverewnce for the land, given that the settlement of Ariel has been engaged in deliberate pollution of adjoing Palestinan farms and springs; raw sewage has been literally pumped down into those lands, in an effort to expl
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
Hi again. I see many Irish people who support "Palestinians", and I see that the reason is your tragic history. But your parallels are completely not suitable for the situation. It's easy nowadays to depict Israel as the ruthless occupant, but you Europeans even don't bother to dig a little. When Jews had arrived to the mandate, Brits ruled the area and Jews, there hadn't been Jewish state. About Arab hostility you can learn from massacre that have taken place in Hebron, theremore
dukef4 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
The last thing man. I believe that humans are equal in their right to exist, but this is not the case when it comes to ideas they believe in. Nowadays we witness the uprising of Islamism around the Globe, this why we want have peace. "Palestinians" are just a tool, to hurt Israel and Jews. All the exposure is only due to oil $. You'll never hear about Darfut on TV, about massacres of Christians in Kenya, or prosecutions of Christians in Gaza, slavery in Saudi Arabia...
dukef4 1 year ago
@dukef4
Fair play for making this a civil discussion, and dutifuly acknowledging our own exerience. You make many ponts, including some very valid ones regarding Islamist extremism, for which I'm no apologiust. I do feel, however, my points on the settlements, and land grabs still stand. I don't have time to go into this much further for now; prefewrably, a chat over a pint or two in a snug bar on a rainy afternoon would be preferable to a youtube board...
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@dukef4
In the meantime, I wish you the very best. Do endevourt to hold the temper. I know from both my own misdeeds and those of my island's history that prsenting ones own side of the argument helps aid dialoguie, open up new paradigms of thinking and helps one to meet new and interesting peopleThe 'new paradigms' is especially interesting; it's not only limited to compromising, but presenting a third dimension previuosly unseen by either party!
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@dukef4 I recently had the pleasure of engaging, at times emphatic, discussion with an affable young Ameruican Jewish chap here in Dublin. Neither of us actually 'converted' the other but we nonetheless left on a positive note.Happy days.
jeffdolan 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
Good day pal.
I apologies for calling you 'nazi', I misinterpreted your post, at first sight it looked like another claim that European Jews and Mizrahi Jews have nothing in common, despite the recent genetic researches.
Wish you the best.
dukef4 1 year ago
@jeffdolan
There had been no "palestinians" before 60's. But the terror attacks on Jewish state has been much before, when the attackers called themselves Jordanians and Egyptians, and general name for such squads had been "Fedaayun" (or something like that).
Please don't tell about discrimination. Since the times Jews had been expelled from these lands, every place Jews stayed they were butchered and humiliated (there are some exceptions).
dukef4 1 year ago
Not trying to send a political message in an area where politics dominates everything.
When will they learn.
elspoko 2 years ago
No one is forcing Palestinians to watch Israeli TV stations. In fact, I doubt that many Palestinians are even aware that this commercial exists.
whyzeee2 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up. They are occupied, not even allowed to go around in their own land, what would their "media" be like?
Reqrezentin 2 years ago
If you want an idea of what Palestinian Media is like, google "Palestinian Media Watch", or "MEMRI".
whyzeee2 2 years ago
I guess you mama never slapped that foul mouth out of ya.
The Palestinians should thank Israel for all the opportunities that they have given them to overthrow their wicked leaders. Its on them that they never have.
4U2TakeBackAmerica 2 years ago
Are you serious? Thank Israel? For what? Occupation or killings of civilians? Fucktard.
Reqrezentin 2 years ago