Lets not compare. They're their own beings with things in common and things not in common. Does it really matter whose better? Lets just enjoy the climbing.
... Osman was a climber and a hell of one too. He did tons for this sport. Pushing it pretty darn far, and did quite a bit of work on equipment testing and modifying. Sonnie Trotter is probably the best trad climber ever alive though, no point in comparing.
Im prettty sure Tommy Caldwell is a better trad climber. Pretty much owns El Cap. And has lead a 15.a, but dedicates himself to trad climbing. And his freaking wife Beth did meltdown which is a 14.c on trad. Freaking sick. And harder than cobra crack. And Tommy is definitely stronger than Beth.
I hate comparing climbers who do things at grades I don't understand. I respect both Tommy and Beth as amazing climbers. I do not withdraw my statement on Trotter though, but it is highly just an opinion. Add Dider to the list of top crackers if you want. And BTW Beth = EX-wife is what we're hearing : )
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because he could speed solo 5.7s? and because he took massive world record whippers that led to his death? he was a retard and his death was inevitable. I think his carelessness is an embarrassment to the sport.
He was a goofball, yes. I mean, he looked like an extra from Wayne's World. But if you think he couldn't climb hard you don't know what you're talking about. He was a 5.14 climber when the list of 5.14 climbers was very short.
Lets not compare. They're their own beings with things in common and things not in common. Does it really matter whose better? Lets just enjoy the climbing.
CanfieldSuccess 9 months ago
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XxAddyLuvsYewxX 9 months ago
mr i still think dave macloud is better + the route that sonnie talks about was first down by dave
yomattieT 1 year ago
@yomattieT Yeh but it took macleod over a year to get the route, trotter got it waaaay faster
ollicrudge 1 month ago
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yomattieT 1 year ago
So cool 4:18, bird flys out of the hole.
SpicyThaiSausage 1 year ago
rhapsody's dave macleods e11 epic. id love to see sonnie climb that
040819932939 2 years ago
@040819932939 he did..
vexilar1 1 year ago
il be going to scotland soon, will be checking that route out:), not that il be able to climb it lol
snowyywwinters 2 years ago
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juikm 3 years ago
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osman was the best really!
adamski0101 3 years ago
osman was a nut job first, climber second. He never climbed close to as hard as sonnie, let alone on trad.
teamneverlost 3 years ago
... Osman was a climber and a hell of one too. He did tons for this sport. Pushing it pretty darn far, and did quite a bit of work on equipment testing and modifying. Sonnie Trotter is probably the best trad climber ever alive though, no point in comparing.
Pomattic 3 years ago 6
Im prettty sure Tommy Caldwell is a better trad climber. Pretty much owns El Cap. And has lead a 15.a, but dedicates himself to trad climbing. And his freaking wife Beth did meltdown which is a 14.c on trad. Freaking sick. And harder than cobra crack. And Tommy is definitely stronger than Beth.
azhum 2 years ago
I hate comparing climbers who do things at grades I don't understand. I respect both Tommy and Beth as amazing climbers. I do not withdraw my statement on Trotter though, but it is highly just an opinion. Add Dider to the list of top crackers if you want. And BTW Beth = EX-wife is what we're hearing : )
Pomattic 2 years ago
@Pomattic tbh hes on par with dave macloud
yomattieT 1 year ago
Neither did anyone at that time...?... Osman pushed this sport, and far. And made possible some of what Trotter (and co) is/are doing.
Pomattic 2 years ago
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because he could speed solo 5.7s? and because he took massive world record whippers that led to his death? he was a retard and his death was inevitable. I think his carelessness is an embarrassment to the sport.
davervr6 3 years ago
Nah, dont agree. He just had a different outlook on the sport.
adamski0101 3 years ago
He was a goofball, yes. I mean, he looked like an extra from Wayne's World. But if you think he couldn't climb hard you don't know what you're talking about. He was a 5.14 climber when the list of 5.14 climbers was very short.
deliveryboy2 2 years ago
you suck go away dan was greatness
kloudd 2 years ago
No doubt man. hes awesome.
fiftyhunnug 3 years ago 2
man he is easily my favorite climber in the world, what a champion
somegi9 3 years ago 4