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  • man thats no way to eND 2 heros kojima NO WAY!!!!

  • whats the ost around 3:30 to 4:13? when zero dies?

  • =(

  • se jeu est tout simplement exceptionnelle en France il est très apprécier et émouvant de plus il reflète les sentiment patriotiques VIVE LA FRANCE DIEU BENISE LES USA

  • naomi couldnt have told big boss all that info coz he was in a coma at the time. such bullshit writing. was kojima high when he wrote the script for this game? also, how was dr.madnar still alive when its made pretty clear in metal gear 2 that he died? and even more shockingly when snake hears that dr.madnar is perfectly fine he has nothing to say about it? and how did EVA know sunnys location prior to the events of mgs4? my god the flaws in this game are just ridiculous.

  • @randomusername27 you can also stfu and enjou the game. fucking geek, people like you make every games a fucking mess

  • @FinalAuron1 i do enjoy the game. sorry if pointing out the flaws makes you angry. people like me make every game a mess? that doesnt make any sense at all. mgs1, 2 and 3 dont have the flaws that 4 has story wise. just thought someone like kojima would have paid more attention to the previous games that he wrote. once again i do enjoy these games. but i wont stfu. unless the patriots censor the internet and stop me ;)

  • @randomusername27 EVA was a patriot, why you'd assume that one of the heads of the organisation that kidnapped Sunny would have issue finding her is beyond me. It's never once stated in MG2 that Madnar died, it's not even really fully implied. The Naomi thing I'm unsure of, but there's nothing saying that he couldn't hear people in his nano machine induced coma. How you can claim 4 is poorly written but claim 2 isn't is also beyond me. MGS2 is a wishy washy reimage of MGS1 minus real character

  • @TheDocGoblin EVA was a patriot, and not for long. When sunny was captured by the patriots they were completely formless and worked through AI only. The fact Snake doesnt remark on madnar at all is a bit silly but not a big flaw. The biggest problem with snake in 4 is that he is a shadow of the character he is in 1 and 2. Remember the inspirational speeches he gave. None of that in 4 apart from "you can still be the light that shines through the darkness" crap to raiden.

  • @randomusername27 Because Snake is SUPPOSED to be a shadow of himself, he's dying. Watch his evolution from his final speech in MG2: Solid Snake, through MGS1, MGS2 and MGS4. Snake in MG2:SS is a LOT more peppy and positive than he is in MGS1, does that make MGS1 less of a game?

  • @TheDocGoblin Kojima didnt even want to write this game and hes said he dissapointed with it. Saying mgs2 is wishy washy is just like so many mgs fans who dont get the real message behind that game. That game questioned the humanity and morals of living in this digitized world. How can we have an identity in a world that is becoming more and more digital. Kojima never put as much hear and soul into an mgs game as he did with mgs1 and 2. And Liquid Ocelot was just a complete mess.

  • @randomusername27 Arsenal Gear's storyline in MGS2 is stellar, it's the whole big shell scenario that isn't. Bosses like Fatman, characters like EE who have NO REAL point in the game and who don't progress the plot at all etc.

    Also I think you'll find he put as much soul into Metal Gear 2, Peace Walker and MGS3 as he did into the others. I got the message behind Sons of Liberty, it doesn't detract from the massive flaws that game has.

  • @TheDocGoblin Then he brought back this "badass" raiden in 4 that brought nothing to the themes of the game. At least in 2 kojima used him to portray identity in some way. mgs1-3 all had so much more depth. Raidens scene with the president. The final codec scene with the colonel ai is probably kojimas best written scene. I used to make excuses for 4's badly written twists but not anymore. Your Naomi explanation is ridiculous if you analyze it.

  • @randomusername27 Again, characters like EE and Fatman brought absolutely NOTHING to the series. EE was just a much more watered down Sniper Wolf, she only existed to cause some anguish for Otacon.

    I dunno why you're stopping on making excuses for 4, you seem to be doing it for 2.

  • @TheDocGoblin Fatman brought more to the series than any of the b&b's which still isnt saying much seen as though the b&b's had nothing unless you were supposed to feel some sense of their character out of drebins bedtime stories. As for EE, I liked her realtionship and her death didnt seem nearly as forced as Naomi's. But thats my opinion. Mei Lings inclusion in 4 is completely forgettable as well as the Meryl/Johnny relationship. Turning an easter egg character into a main character?!

  • @TheDocGoblin and mgs2 opened up the entire story that leads into mgs4. The s3 plan? the whole why the patriots used raiden as gw's test subject? Wanting to control people's will and consciousness and raiden was perfect for the test. Which was then pretty obviously used for the development of sop in 4. Saying that 2 is a reimage of 1 means that you are clueless. go type in youtube "mgs2 jfk" for an understanding of 2s story. seems like you need it a refresh.

  • @randomusername27 You're getting considerably cocky. Just because I don't bum mgs2 with a blind fanboyism and I can appreciate 4 even with it's minor story flaws (FoxDie was the biggest flaw in it's story, literally EVERYTHING else fits into the series) I love MGS2 as well, at least the Tanker and Arsenal Gear. The big shell is a poor rehash of Shadow Moses, regardless of story elements, it's a repetitive, poorly designed area.

  • @TheDocGoblin Im not bumming mgs2 at all. I appreciate 4 for its cinematic elements, incredible direction and music. I just think it has way less depth than other 3 in terms of themes and character development. My problem with Snake in 4 was that he had seemed to lost every bit of spark he had before. Of course hes aged and dying but the Solid Snake we know wouldnt have been like that I believe. He never has anything to say in 4. He meets a character they give him some explanation and he leaves

  • @TheDocGoblin At the end of mgs2 we see snake all enthusiastic about stopping Liquid and finding Olgas child. Then he gives a big inspirational speech in typical snake fashion about life being more than just passing on you genes, through music, movies etc etc. In 4, he is just getting on with the job. Sure he is dying, but I thought Snake was always the strong minded type no matter what. He just doesnt seem to care about passing anything on in himself anymore. Otacon speaks to the players more.

  • @randomusername27 But that was what was what I liked about Snake in 4. His body had rapidly aged, he was ill and he had lost his belief in freedom. He was plagued by nightmares of his past and he had succumbed to the belief his life was ending. Otacon knew this and that's why he steps up in 4, to ensure Sunny is protected from the reality of Snake's illness.

  • @TheDocGoblin But hey, at least we have a series where the characters have this amount of depth. I think we have differing opinions and theres no changing each of our minds. In the end I guess i just would have preferred if the questions in 2 were unanswered, like Hideo had originally intended. He actually got death threats when he said he wasnt interested in making 4. World is a fucked up place.

  • @randomusername27 Well yeah, a visionary genius like Hideo shouldn't of received that treatment, but I'm glad he gave us the closure that he did. I'm happy that he;s focusing on Big Boss' early life/descend into his madness. I don't think he should of appeared in 4 though, I'd of preferred us not knowing if Snake had killed himself. Sorry about not replying to your PM, I writ a big one up but for some reason youtube wont let me message you

  • @randomusername27 Just replayed a bit of 4 today. It appears Naomi isn't dead upon the time that Big Boss is brought out of his Coma, Big Boss is awakened before the Eastern European mission, I assume that's when Naomi told him about FoxDie.

  • @TheDocGoblin what the hell? I thought it was when JD was destroyed that he woke up.

  • @randomusername27 Apparently not, it was when JD was destroyed that he could finally find Zero. According to the database/metal gear wiki Naomi left Big Boss a video explaining everything. Maybe I've misread the signs though because I'm sure he was supposed to wake up after all the AIs went down myself.

  • @TheDocGoblin database and wiki are full of shit that isnt in the game. Big Boss says that he was kept in eternal sleep by JD and the proxy ai.

  • @randomusername27 the database is written by Kojima productions and is an official product, I'd say it's a canon source.

  • @TheDocGoblin If it contradicts whats in the game i wouldnt call it canon.

  • @randomusername27 But it's written by the same team, by your logic a lot of MGS2 and MGS3 aren't canon because they contradict things said in previous games in the series.

  • @TheDocGoblin well yea, if it contradicts something in the game then i wouldnt count it as canon. mgs4 database making up for poor writing in the series. If big boss says in mgs4 that for him to be awakened JD must be destroyed how can you take what the database says as being the real canon? It contradicts one of the biggest twists in the game. No sorry the game was wrong and the database tells the real mgs4 story? I call that bullshit

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  • "I'm taking it upon myself to turn zero, back into nothing" Zero: Wait!!! What are you doing -cuts off oxygen- " You baaasstard -gags to death :3

  • Big Boss has so much swag.

    Dat voice

    Dat dress style

    Dat eyepatch

    Dat hair

    He even looks like what Snake should have looked like in MGS4.

  • i find it odd that big boss has an english accent here...

  • i like the normal snake which is from mgs3

  • @snake01mgs me too

  • anywho. Apart from the arguements. I wonder if in MGS Rising we find out what happens to Snake. Maybe he sorta chills out at last and becomes a legendary badass.

  • @MrRichardo23 Considering Rising takes place before this game? It's not likely. Besides, Snake has about a year left to live, and told Big Boss that he wants to spend it in peace. Don't expect a thrilling game out of that.

  • @GSSAGE7

    Since they changed developers to Platinum Games.

    The setting was also changed to a several years after MGS4.

  • @brainysnaeha Yeah, I found that out a little while after posting that.

  • @GSSAGE7 Maybe it could be a racer game. In Alaska. Involving dog sledding. Snake never did get to do that sled race.

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  • @MrRichardo23 People making Halo or Battlefield aren't aiming for REACTION, they just want to make a great game, which they do and did. Metal Gear Solid is also a great game that has a big reaction, but thats what they were aiming for. Not all games are about the almighty REACTION as you say

  • @MrLawesome13 Well I agree with you...but even then the only good fucking halo game was odst and halo 1 lol. And that is factual opinion.Mainly because a lot of other people would agree. Reach was a letdown. They went from having to fucking do something significant to unlock armour and shit which was fun that is why i like halo 3 moar. But noooo...Reach had to make it easier for the fucking 8 year olds that play it. My other point being. That franchise has been destroyed by younger people.

  • @MrRichardo23 Which isnt their entire fault, I love all the games and i have a factual opinion that a lot of people do too. making it easier for kids to play it was a majorly good way to get more sales. And if your a true fan you dont care whose playing it, you just care about it being a kick ass game but cmon this is a MGS video, lets not drag halo into this. Younger people destroyed it, but older people kept it alive

  • fuckin zero the twat

  • big boss last kill

  • sanke is a great listener

  • and so zero....became...zero haha

  • Snake... is... BEAST!!!!!!!

  • it's sad . these games teaches us that people change , like zero and naked snake. they used to be buddies..

  • @JennyHMS Zero and Big Boss are like the 2pac and Biggie of MGS

  • i salute the greatest game series of all time

  • I am a great fan of the Metal Gear Series but some parts are not clear- Kojima is developing Metal Gear Rising it supposedly fills the gap about Raiden's transformation but what about Big Boss- the Les Infants Terribles how exactly did that happen and did Big Boss have a mission of his own in the backdrop of MGS4 I mean Major Zero must have had his security Big Boss could not just go in and take Major Zero- I think I definitely see another two metal gear games before the saga is fully complete!

  • @iLoveMusicMuchly

    Major Zero was the leader of the patriots.

    The bad guys.

    They deserved to be stopped.

  • 5:15 thats what happens to me after i eat mexican

  • there is no MGS 5 so fucking sad

  • I didn't understand about the "mutated" FOXDIE....can someone explain me?? =)

    it is some kind of "evoluted" FOXDIE??? or......

  • @nickiusick The old Foxdie in Snake's body from MGS1 is starting to mutate and will soon turn him into a biological weapon, meaning it'll just start attacking everyone. The only way to get rid of it is to die, which is why Snake tries to kill himself. But then Big Boss tells him that the new Foxdie (put into him by Drebin in Act 1) that was designed to kill Ocelot/Eva/Big Boss has erased over the old one, meaning it is no longer a threat. And Snake will die before the new one becomes a threat.

  • that was big boss last kill

  • I think they should make a game where you are The Boss. and you start the cobra unit in world war 2! i think itd be cool!

  • @THEcalebJweyant

    Id love to play as The Joy! See how her and The Sorrow fall in love and the tragic end of how her child (ocelot) is taken away by The Philosophers

  • @Koloudu Listen to the EVA tapes from Peace Walker- they explain EVERYTHING about The Boss and The Sorrow...

  • @videogamenostalgia

    i don't have Peace Walker yet! :( my psp is broken... im waiting for the HD remake for the ps3 :/

  • @THEcalebJweyant yeah id love to play as a the sorrow or pian in world war 2 :D

  • @THEcalebJweyant apparently that is the new story Hideo Kojima designed for the new Metal gear Solid 5.

  • my god eney my friend played this game i have no words to say to it but i love the game so much

  • So,major zero was the biggest motherfucker ever...Nice,Now I understands "La Li Lu Le Lo" when he's suposed to meet Adam in MGS 3...

  • Can somebody explain to me why Solid/Old Snake is at The Boss' grave? I never understood that. Also, can somebody explain to me why a war traitor would get a soldiers grave in the US?

  • @xSayHiToTheBadGuyx If you played MGS1 and heard what he said about gray fox, then its simple he still respects big boss and even though he killed him it wasn't anything personal like hate is was just a mission that he had to follow. For the gave part, i think its just a memorial for people/hero's that they lost on mission/wars, although i don't know why a traitor would be buried on their home country but remember is a game. Well that's what i think at least i don't know about other people.

  • @XDtAsuMaRuXD I didn't have any problem with Big Boss, i was referring to The Boss the whole time. I just never understood why Snake was in the graveyard where she was buried.

  • @xSayHiToTheBadGuyx Ok now i see what your saying, it's because The Boss and Big Boss graves are at the same place. As you can see the one with the white flowers is the grave of The Boss, the one that Solid Snake is saluting is Big Boss grave. Solid Snake is just there to pay his respects for Big Boss not The Boss.

  • @XDtAsuMaRuXD Oh that makes sense!

  • this kinda emotionally impacts you

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  • This is the end of "The Tragedy of Big Boss"... Everithing begun in Tseloniyark in the Soviet Union in August 1964... And in the end he died in The Boss grave... EPIC!!!

  • The hardest boss

  • big boss is like "i cant believe i use to work for this faggot"

  • what did Big Boss mean by Snake wouldn't have committed the same mistakes as him? Did he mean Snake wouldn't have killed the Boss and allow America to get blame?

  • this is one fucked-up "family"

    still though, I love these games

  • So im guessing...real life translation=Foxdie is aids?

  • @wademoss381 Let's just hope nobody will create some sort of super aids that will cause a worldwide epidemic.

  • since all the conflicts between zero and big boss were a result of misinterpretations of the beliefs the boss had, if the boss had explained herself better none of the games would have ever existed :)

  • If Metal Gear solid series ended here I'd be fine with that, a great game with a great story

  • 4 people here got infected by FOXDIE

  • 4:48 He forgot to press X!!!

  • i think that everyone will agree that metal gear solid 5 should be on the way.

  • Zero's mumbling.

    Translation: Err heh heh heh ( What the fuck are you doing?! )

  • Metal Gear Solid series fucking destroys the halo series.

  • @MrRichardo23

    you can't compare

  • @MrRichardo23 how dare you even compare them...

  • @MrRichardo23 You can't compare two games like those, they are like total opposites. It's like saying cake is better than hot dogs, it doesn't make sense

  • @MrLawesome13 Cake is better...

  • @MrLawesome13 You know. You could compare any ps3 game to any 360 game. By reaction. Not by graphics or gameplay or story. REACTION

  • @MrRichardo23 hey hey hey, metal gear solid series is amazing but halo is also amazing in a different way

  • @dylanmasterguy Uh huh...well. I CAN compare the two in terms of. Holy shit that ending was awesome. And Holy shit that ending was...kinda lame. I mean...The most badass being on 360...is called John? -.- I was hoping him to be called bob.

  • @MrRichardo23 unchrted fuckallof them sry

  • @hqhosam1671 Any ps3 series fucks over any xbox 360 series. Literally. Ratchet and clank. Uncharted. MGS. Littlebigplanet even owns them. Microsoft can't come up with a great storyline. lol

  • @MrRichardo23 in your opinion. I like msg but i think Halo destroys mgs. Not fact

  • @bringmethecod Is that because halo is an FPS by any chance? :3

  • @bringmethecod never. Mgs is PURE AWESOME.

  • MSG4 greatest game ever made

  • MSG4 greatest game ever made

  • MSG4 greatest game ever made

  • Anyone knows title of song started at 2:44???

  • Fucked FOXDIE. I want more MG.

  • so after all zero was the bad guy uh? wouldn't have guessed...

  • @THISSUCKS236 this game and the rest of the saga pretty much tries to say there is no true bad or good you know

  • @THISSUCKS236 no zero was just trying to follow the will of the boss but he missinterpretted it..all the games basically revolve around the beliefs of the boss but no one rlly knewwat she wanted

  • choke that old bitch he foreclosed on 200,000 motgages he didnt own

  • Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, John Hancock, James Otis...The real sons of liberty

  • EVA, paramedic, sigint, ocelot all the hero´s died

  • I just love the way stories are told, with such a poetic sense

  • They should added the switch to Japanese audio?

  • @AJ15ist @AJ15ist Nah, if there is any game which proves English VA can be superior to Japanese then it's this one.

    Richard Doyle= AMAZING!

    David Hayter= Ditto

    and all the mgs cast.

  • How could you say that? Japanese voice acting is pretty good, some of my favorite seiyuus (Japanese voice actors and actresses) are in Metal Gear, Akio Otsuka, Chikao Otsuka, Banjo Ginga, Kikuko Inoue, etc.

  • @AJ15ist Well when Hideo Kojima says the David Hayte is the definitive Snake...that's how.

  • Fine.

  • The part at 1:03 where he said "The original members.... para medic......sigint.......EVA...­......ocolot.......they've all passed on" knowing that just brings a tear to my eye.

  • so Major Zero started it all

    He deserves to die as he brainwashed Paz in Peace Walker.....

  • At first when I saw Big Boss' voice actor in the credits I was upset but then I heard Richard Doyle's voice and it suits him perfectly. Besides the emotional impact would be removed if it was just David Hayter talking to himself.

  • They should have added the switch to Japanese audio?

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  • OOHR... my hip... my damn trick knee...

  • Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the retirement home

  • i kinda wished that mgs4 have would been in now time not in future snake looks...wierd

  • "Maybe you wouldn-" LE FUUUUUUUUUUUU

  • -teary eyed- still...the most epic game ever.

  • Metal Gear Solid 4: Old Broken Veterans, the video game. 

  • Solid snakes story is over...but big boss still has more to show!

  • @dadkwashere Not forgetting Raiden, in the upcoming game. Rising.

  • In this game...

    Solid Snake die?

  • i don´t understand a shit XD

  • I think Kojima just wrote all this to make it impossible for Wikipedia to make a summary.

  • Correction. MSG3 was basically the prologue, Big Boss fought his mentor, the Boss, and her Spec Ops unit The Cobras.

  • @TonyBranston LMFAO XD agreed XD

  • @TonyBranston It's not a story about destroying The Patriots, it's one man's attempt at destroying Wikipedia!!!

  • @TonyBranston

    Metal Gear Solid 5: [Citation Needed]

  • @TonyBranston And yet they tried anyway.

  • @TonyBranston i think kojima was off his tits when he wrote this...but somehow i still love it!

  • in mgs1 and 2 you never knew about zero you only knew about big boss...so snake and liqued and idk about solidous were made from big bosses dna to be super soldiers, and you kill liqued in mgs1 but i think in mgs2 you kill a liqued fake or him being saved from you killing him but idk, in mgs3 i didnt really know the story line but i think you just fought a new group of people or something, but yea mgs4 gets deeper in the story line and i wished i played it before mgs rising comes out

  • @TheRozna I dont think Mgs rising will have anything to do with snake. Im guessing its a new storyline

  • @Milo12030 yeah its gonna be all about raiden

  • @TheRozna in mgs3 you where naked snake (Big boss) where you fought russians to get the prophecy and stop the shagohod, so pretty much the same old story :P just shagohod was the metal gear

  • ata 9:07 whats the soundtrack tha plays backround!!!!!?

  • i never played mgs1-mgs3 , ive only played the last, someone tell me about solidus and the clones and all, im confused, big boss is naked snake huh ?

  • @Playver1337 It's to much for telling you.

    you HAVE to play the other parts...it's epic!

  • zero shitting himself made me (and probably others) come completely out of the moment. I burst out laughing

  • so wait let me get this straight you mean to tell me that throughout all of the Metal Gear Solids that this whole time we have all been playing as Snakes son from mgs 1 and 2 and then play as bigboss in the past in snake eater witch takes place in 1964 and then play as his sonb in Guns of the patriots??

  • Zero is a genius.

  • @alanoasiss An evil genius.

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  • you think they would have killed zero in a more creative way like pushing him into traffic....

  • As soon as that music kicks in at 2:46 it just makes this scene that much more epic

  • @bossyboris

    Not that it needs to be more epic.......i mean come on, its the moment when the founder of the Patriots.......when the man who caused it all dies.......

    Definitely, one of the best scenes in the history of the videogames ever

  • @odrobina55 I totally agree with you, this is one of the greatest moments in video game history.

    And also I believe that the metal gear solid series is the greatest game series ever.

  • @bossyboris

    Amen bro...

  • @bossyboris Yeah i agree you know its crazy how when you begin MGS 1 its all about Big Boss and then as you finish its all about him again.

  • @bossyboris your half right.. the metal gear series is the best that ever was and best that there ever will be

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  • @bossyboris you're right there mate it is the best game series ever

  • So contrived. They could've just let it end with Snake killing himself for the sake of the world, but no... they had to bring back Big Boss and rekill him again. Why? Only so that no one can say he didn't really die and bring him back in a future sequel?