Kill The Health Care Bill! Start Over! Howard Dean

[UtubeJ8ke]

Just stop complaining but ok$1.1 trillion now... Uh .. Idk

[adaus2]

Every Congressman, who is an M.D., does not support this bill. Howard Dean is arguably the most liberal politician in Washington D.C., and he does not support the bill.

Additionally, every M.D. I have spoken to about this issue mentioned that they are not paid fairly for Medicare/Medicaid patients (~8% of total costs). Doctors are now paper pushers, and should not have more obstacles between them and treating the patients.

This will simply create a doctor shortage and waste $1.1 TRILLION!

[ArswawWorldofWarcraf]

Let me get this straightWere trying to pass a healthcare plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesnt understand it, passed by a congress that hasnt read it but exempts themselves from it. To be signed by a president that also hasnt read it , and who smokes. And the funding will be administered by a treasury chief who didnt pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general that is obese, and funded by a country thats broke!

[venicestu]

@ArswawWorldofWarcraf well said, I hope you don't mind if i repeat your words elsewhere

[ArswawWorldofWarcraf]

@venicestu Thanks for your comment. Go ahead and repeat it. We need as many people as we can to see the lies the liberals tell us.

[Msnoneofyobiz]

The public should be allowed to view this bill, along with every bill, and give opinions about what it should be. all of this back and forth here and there BS doesnt work for me. their only interest is their growing pockets.

[az101010]

so we have to maintain health insurance

just like car insurance or go to jail..

that's liberal stupidity at its finest..

that's definitely unconstitutional..

[ArswawWorldofWarcraf]

@az101010 Exactly, you do not have to have car insurance if you do not drive. However, you have to have health insurance no matter what.

[az101010]

maybe YOU have to have health insurance-but i don't.. and i will NEVER allow a stupid liberal to force me to buy anything..

[ArswawWorldofWarcraf]

@az101010 Only if the bill does not pass. It applies to all non federal workers and the rest have to buy insurance. How will you get out of it?

[az101010]

the same way we've ever got out of any communist take-over attempt.. amercians will never let it happen- just watch the show.. and especially watch the stupid liberals put a boot up thier own ass..

[Kioti077]

Holly shit, I feel like a thief came into my house to rob me,I'm piss, First Big Pharma gets their bill, then banks,wall street and now Insurances , I think they are going to have American pen raised sheep for Christmas dinner , The Democrats and Obama tied our hoofs and put us in the butcher block, while this happens,Obama is spying on the citizenry and make them bleed in two wars. Crazy shit I miss Bushe's "good old days",

[mtnmanquin]

What obama and this health care bill are doing to our county is unconstitutional and show just how anti american the demo party is. These people are not americans and in fact are more of a threat to our Nation then any terrorist. One if by land two if by sea...

[geofiles]

President Obama and his administration said if Health Care Reform is not passed, Medicare and Medicaid will blow a hole through our budget. This means, Obama and our government cant even properly administer Medicare and Medicaid, not to mention the entire federal budget. How can we expect them to be able to run National Health Care?

[punkfliper]

@geofiles well said. hell they cant even run the postal service correctly. Have you ever been to the DMV? OH... THATS GOVERNMENT RUN TOO!

[ArswawWorldofWarcraf]

@geofiles That is exactly what I wonder. That should be a very convincing argument. For anyone who is not a lemming.

[geofiles]

The current National Health Care Reform Bill is unconstitutional, for it outright takes away individual liberty and freedom as guaranteed by the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.

It doesn't conform to any other successful working models of Health Care used by other Nations.

It will begin with an immediate increase in taxes, but it will not begin to provide services for over 3 years from now.

[ggammel]

PATRIOT Howard Dean, MD, practiced medicine throughout his terms as VT Rep, 1982, & Lt. Gov (1986)~became Gov 1991~was elected to FIVE 2-yr terms 1991-03~was 2nd longest Gov of VT~served as Chair of Nat'l Govs 1994-95; & as Gov, pd off much of VT public debt~balanced budget 11 times~TWICE lowered Income Tax~~oversaw expanding Dr. Dinosaur to ensure health care for VT kids/expectant moms! He is a PATRIOT unlike the POTUS.

[NCLUSA]

The health care bill is a smoke screen, as to keep us idiot tax payers from seeing how they are leading us into Socialism.

[Msnoneofyobiz]

@NCLUSA

well there are great things we have that are socialized: highways, mail, schools, fire dept, etc. They make enough to pay their workers and epuipment and dont break us. I just think the gov't is twisting socilaism with this health care, making sure we are broke and they get substantial profits. they want yet another shield over our eyes, another worry so we take focus from solutions. yeah we are idiot taxpayers we let them do it all.

[PerryLogan]

What an irony--that Joe Lieberman may be the one who saves us from this sucky bill.

[nirbija]

Howard Dean's present pro-GOP position (vote against the bill) reminds us of Dean's intemperate scream that jettisoned him from the Presidential race in 2004

Some libruls are much like the mindless republicons: Their folly is destroying America.

Too many libruls ARE DELUSIONAL!

They FAIL TO NOTE that Dems DO NOT have a filibuster proof caucus in the Senate!

Judas lie-berman IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!

The traitor supported the GOP candidate for President & spoke at their convention, AGAINST the Dems

[nalkar2]

Dr. dean is right just kill it

[LifeIsGood63]

Oh this is boring. I wanted a public option. Obama was able to add 30,000 more troops within a few weeks because that is what the right wants. Now since the liberals want a health care option. This has been a 6 month pile of shit. The president is a right winger because not one of the things he is doing is what I voted for. Ho-Hum Cheney (Liebermann) is still in charge.

[marcuty]

Easy to blame Obama, after all he's the "captain" of the ship. But even if the captain is giving the direction to his crew, what happen is half the paddlers paddle in one direction and the other half paddles in the other...u go in circle which is what's happening. He can't impose his views (even if most agree with him) in such a complex political system...Unfortunately, u live in a conservative country that beleives the almighty "invisible hand" of the market will solve everything...good luck!

[LifeIsGood63]

Conservative? Look I voted for this Manchurian Candidate. Obviously he is not a man of his word. A liberal speaks his mind. A conservatard has to be told what to think. Don't make promises you never intend to keep. Tell me: What will we win in Afghanistan? A get out of jail free card? He better grow a pair and start standing up for the voters beliefs or our next president could be the queen of tards Sarah Palin. Not my choice. Trust me.

[wwwMERTHcom]

Health care reform is important. Everyone wants a bill that lowers costs and opens up new opportunities. The dems have a majority in both houses, if this were a good plan and supported by the people, it would have passed a long time ago.

Passing the bill that exist now will only make the situation worse.

[Lukeor]

Fucking money loving senators. Man.... What a disgusting let down.

I thought we were going to have universal health care, like I had and loved in the military for the past 5 years.

[ar4216]

This bill is essentially a giveaway to one of the most disgusting industries in America- the insurance industry. It must be stopped. It's passage will be a disaster for the cause of real reform.

[signboyy]

this started out as a bill to help people get healthcare, and due to insurance company puppet politicians ammending the bill, it has turned into a bill which benefits insurance companies.

as long as lobbying is legal, the american people will always be screwed by the internal corporations who control our government.

[bigrebnc1861]

What in the hell do you mean if the American people knows what is in the bill they will want it? obama you are a worthless piece of shit you stupid scum bag. You do not want the American people to know what is in the bil stupid SOB

[Codger45caliber]

Does this mean the Louisiana senator won't get her 100 million dollars?

Only 291 days left until the 2010 election.

[bb44332211]

Obamacare was never healthcare anyway. Scrap the bill.

[iadmireavril]

No Single-Payer, no Public Option, so why do I support this Bill anymore?

Oh I get it, just like my skyroceting Home and Car Insurance is mandatory so would I. No Pre-existing Conditions would mean that the potentially insured would have to be insured at a much higher rate, a gift to the Republicans, the health insurance companies and lovely Sen. Lieberman, so why am I still supporting this Bill. I do not!

I support gov Dean's call: KILL THE DAMN BILL ALREADY!

[WaryRox]

@iadmireavril I can't agree with you more!

[FlowerClown]

As American we get the government we deserve. We the people hold the power it that we are all to stupid to understand that.

We need a nation wide strike. No one goes to work, drives, buys stuff and we just stay at home.

The whole country stops and that will send a chill down the spine of government not to mess with us.

Kill this bill it sucks.

PASS HR 676 Medicare for all or nobody.

[marcuty]

Unfortunately, as demonstrated by the republicans and right-wing tea baggers, it's much easier to mobilize people on fear tactics and to be "against" something. What you guys should have done, is to unite like in the campain, rally and take the streets demanding health care for all. Obama was hoping to play with adults, instead he left the bill in the hands of spoiled "corrupt" children...The majority wants public option and yet the minority opposing it are the loudest... VERY SAD for U!

[FlowerClown]

Its not just SAD for me its a sad time for the American people

The tea baggers have some good ideas but I see it being fueled on racism where where they during Bush and his wars and spending spree.The uneducated make great lemmings. We need to take over these masses and hold government up to the light. It not about black or white its about power,money and greed.

[rlg985]

@FlowerClown

Fueled on racism eh? I'm guessing you've just been taken everything fed to you by the media, that some random banner in a protest of hundreds of thousands of people makes the whole thing racist. Just a hint, you can find bad apples in any protest, this one being no exception. Racism is still a real thing today, but the word is thrown around way too often to the point that it means nothing now.

[FlowerClown]

I've seen the"Strike"work in Nepal first hand. It broke the government there. Gandhi did it to England in India and we, if we join together, can do it here.

[mrREDBIRDFAN]

Howard Dean gets smacked down again.The good DR IS MAD BOO-HOO-HOO.This spook likes to lose.Because simply he is a loser.Just one more wealthy asshole crying about how he wants to help the poor.Let DR EVIL live on 25000 a year with a couple of kids so he can actually know from where he speaks.Not living in a mansion throwing flowers to the less fortunate below.People on the left are so gulliable to think these cry-babys would lower their own standards to help anyone.Go Joe.

[rpgposer0]

This is classic politicking. I guess progressives forgot that the republicans controlled by corporations would try ANY tactic to kill any bill that limits their profits. Now a democratic controlled senate has been cornered by republicans and turncoats. Sad but true, reform will probably not happen now.

[KosmicCitizen]

FINING people for being uninsured as if they were automobiles! This is "change"? Bloody insane.

I spit every time I hear someone portray Obama or the Democratic party as "socialists." Capitalism-with-band-aids is NOT "socialism."

[KosmicCitizen]

Judas Joe needs to go away.

A system of terms, where candidates can act like little autonomous dictators with regard to their voting once in office, is worse than useless.

[rebjiii]

the GOP will be brought to its knees for the next 12 years for defeating health care reform which has allowed unethical health insurance companies to maintain the status quo.

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

lol. are you still talking about the GOP? god damn you are living in the stone age of politics.

[rebjiii]

royaldemonforchrist....have u come to grips with the fact that obama is going to be your president for another 7 years?...... with racist idiots like palin, limbaugh and boehner running the 'conservative' circus......conservatives will never elect another president in our lifetime....or our children's lifetime.

[rlg985]

@rebjiii

Ah yes, nothing like the good old standby of "Anyone who disagrees with me is a racist"

There was a very slight chance that electing the first Black President was going to start to move us beyond race, but obviously the race baiters making a living off of yelling racism everywhere will never let us move on.

[LifeIsGood63]

Well tell them there is no such thing as racism. Unless you are not part of the human race. That is the only race. I think?

[VeohBlows]

I don't like Dean because he is a doctor still opposes Medical Marijuana, and he should know better. That is really the only problem I have with this guy other than his crew he hangs with, Clintons and such. Our government is crap, I say kill the bill and start over with Hr676 is seems to me most people in the USA would support that over this corporate give away. Our own public health insurance company with NO 20 million dollar CEO's. I don't want to trade my healthcare for Susies 2010 BMW.

[VeohBlows]

But, don't put this shit off just to hog up more time from real issues, I do not want to see 6 more months of bullshit healthcare debating, when illegal wars are being fought, people loosing their homes, no jobs, Privacy violations, war criminals on the loose,.. on and on and on. Healthcare means nothing to me if we continue to kill and irradiate the lands of poor Muslims for Oil when we could use HEMP that would pay for all this healthcare crap!@\/@! plus can be produced here in America by US.

[Z200a]

If only there were more people who thought like you .....

[chan0chap]

thats what happens when you let jews into politics

[rpgposer0]

Wut??

[chan0chap]

joe lieberman is a jew duhh

[rpgposer0]

OK, explain to me what that means.

[bbbbmer]

if only howard dean was president or senate majority leader -- he's SOOO much more effective than harry reid OR obama...... and one helluva lot smarter!

KILL THIS BILL!!!

[idicula1979]

I agree with you but now it seems there is no good moves for the democrats, It seems the minority party has trapped the majority party in a no win situation.

[VeohBlows]

End the wars, drug wars included. Hold up the law of the land, prosecute the criminals in government.

[EscpdFrmPsykward]

This bill has become a monster. It must be killed. Start over with single payer on the table, but call it a Medicare expansion for all Americans to BUY INTO. And don't take it off the table, don't compromise.

I see no reason why America can't have a system similar to Australia. They have a 60/40 split between public and private healthcare and they spend less money and are healthier then us. We shouldn't be afraid to point to other countries and say, "That works, let's steal it!"

[CosmosPrivateer]

I can cut that bill down to 1500 pages just by changing the font size.

The font size has to be big so those old turds can see the words.

I didn't say read them.

Besides that the entire document is line item-ed. Thats another 500 pages of text.

[hstone39]

What is Obama talking about our budget for when our budget is a smoke screen. Of course premium is going to go up because of the economy. What we need to do is to make health care free. Plus, the health care bill will take away some of our rights. They think we are stupid. This is how we know that we are beat the new world order interlectually. The new world order is moving too fast. They always want to create distractions media to cover up what they are doing.

[hstone39]

We are putting pressure on the new world order and they are panicking. They real reason why Obama and the new world order is sending 30,000 more troops to afghanistan because Oath Keepers is reaching out to them and having a strong influence on them. While they putting the troops over seas the new world order will try to use people who hate this country and foreigner against us.

[Waage83]

THERE IS NO NEW WORLD ORDER.

It is the same world order as always the corporations own you Americans and they will always own you Americans only you wake up.

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

we own the planet.

[NuclearRadio]

Actually, since China owns us, they own the planet. We only own a gigantic goddamn bill.

[Orionx26]

ITs gonna happen!

Its 2000 pages... Theres no way we can know whats in the Bill. The mandates alone are unconstitutional.

[marniespeaks]

Don't kill health care

Don't kill the bill

Kill

[NuclearRadio]

Just kill.

[Mrfranxs]

Obama make a lot of threats, how about we impeach him for holding another foreign office while being president that is against the law.

[savior02]

thats right kill the bill and impeach obama while your at it

[mockingarab]

I'm tired of democrat flip flopping!

[JixMa]

"Kill The Health Care Bill! Start Over! Howard Dean"

Hear hear, Howard Dean! I couldn't agree more! 5*****

[whoo689]

Insurance is gonna give 20% of your premiums for profits to the execs?? ook... Doesn't the insurance, esp. HEALTH insurance, only have a 5% profit margin? How does that work out to 20% of premiums?o.O

[deveousdevil]

Dean seems very smart.

[whoo689]

Obama, lol. If this bill passes, he's gonna tell us that it'll MAGICALLY end high premiums and healthcare costs? Get real! 2,000 pages of mandates and more regulations on healthcare will only further drive up costs. I mean, these are politicians! Very few are doctors, and zero are economists. Why should we trust fixing the system to THEM of all people?

[boots920]

You got to take the school of Goebbles off the air otherwise you folks are doomed.

Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.

Joseph Goebbels

Dean ? Where's the vetting paperwork on the Kenyan National. (Corruption)

[RESET1776]

NEVER trust anyone with a hairline that leaves room for horns!

[Orionx26]

@RESET1776 Youth is wasted on the young.

[emmjay701]

Fuck that NASAL, WHINY, LAME-ASS, RECTAL IRRITANT... Joe Liebermann...

I hope he eats shit...

[Homer177]

Ah senator Joe LIEberman. What an idiot.