The Bible has only been acessible to the common folk for less than 500 years.William Tyndale1486-1542 was the first to use the printing press to mass publish Bibles for the common man.in 1525. He smuggled them into England from Belguim. He was a hunted man, caugh,tried&executed. I read his lifestory. For over 1000 years the Bible was under lock&key&even many clergy did'nt have access.It took 10 months to handwrite a Bible. The higher ups in religion&government held back the Bible from the people
John Wycliffe1330-1385 who translated the Bible in 1382 from Latin into the early-middle English of the day beleived that the Bible should be in the language of the common folk as well as in their hands. He died in 1385, however in 1442 his remains were dug up&a trial was held&his bones were burned to powder&then dumped in a river. I read his lifestory.
I look forward to a day when people cease appealing for the intervention of g:ds, spirits, or governments, and appeal to people directly. Where do our rights come from? The DOI stated that the Creator endowed all men with unalienable rights. It didn't state that G:d or Providence did. The Creator could be the combination of what's built into us due to the natural selection, plus the surviving practices of past generations of humanity.
DEFINITION: Humanist; among the most naive and superstitious of all human beings, who believe that science and education will save us from our sins, in spite of the historical evidence after a so-called "age of enlightenment", there arose global imperialism and slavery, the American, French, Russian, Chinese and scores of other violent bloody revolutions, WWI, WWII, Vietnam and continuing, global mass pollution and a looming WWIII, perhaps the real "war to end all wars", who can say for sure?
Humanism? Well while I subscribe to many of their views I still see them as my views which just happen to be similar to Humanism. I support human rights, freedoms and free will among other things but wouldn't call myself humanist as I see it as an unnecessary label.
I agree, it is an unnecessary label. Just because you care for your fellow human rights and freedoms doesn't mean you have to be labeled as humanist. Do we have to label everything we do as humans? I'm also against being cruel to animals. Does that make me a member of PETA? No. I don't need an organization to define who I am.
I find it absolutely absurd and unneeded that we as humanists could even embrace a "Human Light" as a holiday - our objectives are so small in scale and nature...
Oh, then try this: Today's Christians are influenced by their 'leaders' to resist modern (scientific) thinking. Humanists are influenced by their 'leaders' to resist modern (religious) thinking. That's relevant. .. I am against social abortion, not medically necessary abortion. I am against establishing euthanasia as a social expectation. I hope you are intelligent enough to see the differences between your generalizing and my specifics.
"killing" is in quotes as a sub to your use of "murderers". - Christians were influenced, by their 'leaders', to kill pagans and later each other in the name of Christ. - Humanists are being influenced, by their 'leaders', to kill humanely: abortion and euthanasia, in the name of Humanity. - Humanists write about population control .. as in only having between 500 million to 4.7 billion, max, with human breeding strictly controlled. Don't you read your own 'leaders' stuff?
truly it is what you do with it ... my point is how a few manipulate the many to the advantage of the few and the loss of the many... Influence can be a bad thing...
exactly- but I would view them as complicit in their ignorance of what the extreme members or leadership did, does, will do, then not addressing it.- There is no excuse for such gross ignorance of what extremist or leaders do in the name of the movement.- You cannot just simply say, well that's not me, when you claim to own part of your movement. ... Bombers are no different that the abortionists. Both kill human life. Movement titles are irrelevant. Actions aren't.
I really don't know what to say i know this will be irrelevant to your video, but i just want to say Zinnia that you are such a wonderful person! your videos are so great, and very informative! and i know i new to your video, but i just love everyone of your videos i have watch!
I hope you have a wonderful X-Mas with you and your family!
777=666 said, "Look on page 1001 - 1007 on the current US Health Care Bill and you will see a little program called, "National Medical Device Registry" sponsored by IBM and Positive ID. Obama & Friends want all Americans to have a microchip implanted into their bodies to legally receive Medical Care, Purchase Any Comodities and Travel Nationally/Internationally. As a result, we get monitored 24 hours a day and as a direct result, lose all privacy and get forced into a New World Order!"
Interesting ... Christianity (in principle and by canon) is the same! ... But just like Humanism is being now, it was overwhelmed by those would use it to serve themselves. ... At the govt level there is NO difference in the goals of the leadership; and neither Christianity or Humanism are the real goals.
humanism, as an ideal is as you say; but its reality is "killing", just as christianity's became. .. It is dependent upon the 'leadership' and yours is, like mine was, full of those who would do/do do violence to the world ... It's simply the reality of those who see selves as someone special and others as nobodies.
Seems some people here are confusing humanism with something else...don't know what exactly but ever hear of humanatarian aid ??? I'm sure they are not trying to kill 4.5 billion people but rather help people in dire circumstance
oh, and Dan, humanitarian aid is of NO consequence if the money is siphoned away from those who need it to those who "administer" it. -It is kind of you to give a dollar, but stupid of you if only 60 cents of your dollar, or less, goes to the purpose for which you gave it: humanitarian aid. That's why I try to qualify the common humanist humanitarian from those who siphon in the 'leadership'.
Fine! Wear your blinders! Bury your head in the ground! Ignore the problem of humans being human to the detriment of humanity! That allows 'them' to use your to their purposes! But eventually you will see your folly and scream. Hopefully it will be well before 'they' collar you as irrelevant. BTW, thanks for your replies. It's nice when THE real person answers you back.
@mallardhead Fine! DON'T AGREE WITH ME [insert every thing I am right about] blah blah blah!! YOU'LL SEE HOW WRONG YOU WERE [insert everything you are wrong about] blah blah blah blah!!"
FUCK! you must have three elbows on each arm, to be able to pat yourself on the back so effectively and effortlessly.
Interesting take ... it's still true however! You simply drag all down with you as you go along to get along ... I did that, too (following a similar set of 'leaders')! Turns out it was a very bad thing! And 'look!', you're following my lead ... how ... ridiculous ... is that? ... 'FUCK!' only one shoulder, elbow and wrist; and I gave up patting myself after seeing the destruction blind following blind causes. ... Not too late for you, however! Grow up ... check out your 'leaders'.
@mallardhead Interesting how quick you are to make assumptions. I'm not a follower of ANYBODY so I have no "leaders".
"you're following my lead ..."
Spare your ego the burden of doing all your thinking for you. I was criticizing your attitude of unsubstantiated self importance and certainly NOT following you.
"I did that, too (following a similar set of 'leaders')!"
So, you have a habit of playing this game of follow the leader and ceding to authority. No need to tar others with your brush.
Your BS has BS as you are obviously oblivious to being used as a pawn, yet thinking you are independently thoughtful. A close review of your life (psy101) and who 'led/leads' you is in order. .. My "I did that, too" was an admission of being trained to it from birth. You were, too! .. Both of us feel we follow NOBODY at this time. .. And your ID, EGO, SUPER EGO are inflating your attitude and preceding you in a self-inflated substantial way! (The nature of the three as per Freud.)
"Your BS has BS as you are obviously oblivious to being used as a pawn..."
Really? How is this obvious to you? I hadn't realized you had gathered so much data on me. I thought that the only knowledge you had about me and my personal life or my convictions in general were that I had criticized your presumption. A good way to counter the tendency of coming off as a conspiracy theorist, or having delusions of grandeur, is to show your evidence in a forthright manner and explain.
It's obvious in the things you say, which repeat things others of your persuasion said. Their influence is obvious. If you do not see it you are oblivious, still a Pawn, the best kind for them: unaware. -All that is necessary to any conspiracy is two or more folk in agreement as to belief and action. Humanism has a conspiracy: beliefs, plans and action, which the leadership doe not hide. And whether as a pawn or not, you are part of it.
@mallardhead "A close review of your life (psy101) and who 'led/leads' you is in order. .."
If somebody said such things in my real life, unless I knew and trusted them, and they knew me fairly well, I'd be more inclined to think a restraining order was in order.
"My "I did that, too" was an admission of being trained to it from birth."
Well, that's YOU isn't it.
"You were, too! .. "
And you don't suppose for a second, you are being a wee tad presumptuous here? Sorry! Do I know you?
lol! You're supposed to apply psy101 to yourself. I'm certainly not interested in your history, but I do know you have one. Everybody does and needs a good self-evaluation, regularly. Thanks for the giggle, tho! -As to my presumption, I did much more than psy101. To exist is to fall under the influence of others "from birth." It's the Nurture part of Nature vs., and quite unavoidable. Sorry you do not know this! Though you had a brain. Guess you're just a pawn. -2KnowMe.. you know?
@mallardhead "Both of us feel we follow NOBODY at this time."
Well, anybody can make vacuous claims. So far yours are as good as anybodies.
".. And your ID, EGO, SUPER EGO are inflating your attitude and preceding you in a self-inflated substantial way!"
And now they're not. I'm not the one making bold assertions and professing to know things here. Everybody has the capacity of ego. The thing is, I expect people to explain themselves and justify their bold assertions. What's your evidence?
'vacuous'? Because you don't understand & choose to ridicule rather than ask questions? :( -I'm global! I analyze & synthesize data comprehensively. I study history, government, science, psych/sociology, literature, etc. I'm driven to learn about people! -Your capacity to swelled ego/need-of-recognition is obvious, as a review of your vids shows. You are driven by 'classical reason', analysis is your god, & so you post your assertions and opinions... boldly! .. vacuous? That's funny!
You have read the various humanist manifestos? My favorite is the 1933, as its most honest about what they plan to do to us. By the way, you're as wrong as you can be as to their goals. You need to read more of the writings of humanists. Of course I could be focused on the ones using humanism for their personal agendas.....
The vast majority of Humanists, like the vast majority of Christians, is always at the mercy of its leadership. Your leadership, like mine, is out for itself. It really does not matter what either Humanism or Christianity is about. Your leadership is doing what mine did- seizing power and control for itself and screw the masses.....
not irrelevant .... the vast majority will blindly follow the lead of others, who make it seem theirs is the best way ... that's how it happened with Christianity ... throw in govt control and there's no difference between the two ... sheeple are sheeple.
NO! The problem is getting you to understand the nature of human nature. - H+, in its purist sense, is a great ideal. So is pure socialism. But neither ideal can remain pure when human nature is involved. - If you are too ignorant to know this, too stupid to accept it, or too arrogant not to realize the danger it present to humanity, then YOU have a problem, not me!-- I'd love to see the end of all genetic anomalies but hate those who will play God. Read The Lathe of Heaven
@mallardhead We don't need to concern ourselves too much with genetics.
Genetics are just the map of the thing that bootstraps itself to become you.
I think that Cybernetics is the shortest path to helping humanity transcend itself, both by employing cybernetics for management, and as a tool to enhance the human brain.
"We don't need to concern ourselves too much with genetics."? U R crazy! Apparently very! .. and George Sorros loves you to death, you crazy cybernaut! .. You are a definite an S1! .. I honestly think you are sincere, but you are so damned naive it hurts humanity! (and the ironic thing is you think yourself a humanist.)
And no, direct brain implantation and drugs will have a much great effect on our neurology.
And yes, George Soros is a genius, so is Anthony Stafford Beer, Aldous Huxley, Alan Turing, Donal Knuth, John von Neumann (not many people have read his essays on the architecture of the human nervous system)
I'm so thankful that my math professor turned us onto Cybernetics.
We are 100% sincere in our desire to bring about a New World Order.
BS that I don't understand it ... its totalitarianism! S1s dictating to the N1s. You'd create the Borg and deem yourselves Firsts. That's a fictional representation of an actual desire/system of actions. ... Geniuses? BS! ... To know how systems work is one thing. To use them against humanity in the name of humanity is quite different. ... Forcing a NWO, where S1s profit totally in power and wealth over N1s is not genius. It is abuse.
You are rude to think I don't understand Systems based on what little we've discussed. All I've revealed is that I am against the way it is being applied by some 'leaders' to gain advantage and usurp power and wealth, which are relevant beyond measure. Read Plato's 'Republic' to understand it! -I'm glad you use Cy Feedback and turn your friends on to it! If more people did that we'd be in a much better place world-wide. -I think you are as susceptible to being used as anyone.
@mallardhead I don't think it's an unfair inference on my part that you're NOT an engineer.
No, I don't think you can dy/dx a function, nor inductively prove a recursive predicate.
I don't think you have even the foggiest idea of how computers work, at the bare metal, or how to write a turing-complete compiler.
And, you're one of those people that's going to tell me that, that's ok, you don't need to understand things like that, in order to have a serious discussion.
Do I need to be an engineer to understand systems? NO! -As I said, I'm into understanding people: their history, nature and interactions. -I totally agree, if I knew more (engineering terms and practices) it would be easier to show you the errors in your thinking. It does seriously impact the discussion, as does your lack of knowledge and understanding of humanity overall. People are not things to systematically plug into your formulations and use and abuse for your purposes.
Derivatives determine rates. Changing a variable changes the rate. I have practical experience with it. -Recursive predicates are used in ancestry. Ever built a genogram? Requires deductive and inductive reasoning! -I admire your programming abilities but 'C++ is still just C with structs' (so don't get your head all swelled!). -I've added and replaced hardware/software. --It's not okay to be so limited, but then you're as limited. You think Soros is a NWO Savior! Try TYRANT!
Again, I admire your capabilities. I also agree the world needs more reason & rationality; but you must understand human interactive systems depend on more than those two things. A NWO based solely on them needs destruction. You also need to look at those who sit in leadership in this transition world order. They want to replace capitalism (for individual persons) & religion (GOD) with communism (for the state, not the People) & rule of govt dictate (themselves as gods).
In any case, one things I've noticed, is that the best of us, the brightest of us, they ALL support a New World Order, population control, and one world government.
Before there was google, the net or even computers I was into systems and how they work. So I'm NOT frantic. BUT google does provide a lot of good current info at a touch. Beats old info from worn books and a time consuming trip to the library. -I support a NWO, a responsible population and an ordered, unified govt based on the Declaration of Independence and original interp of The Constitution. .. I will fight the two class commie 1 world govt humanists are peddling. No S1s!
btw ... do I need to discuss in detail the human body as a system, or the various systems that comprise it? Or discuss govt as systems? how about city infrastructures -electrical, water, sewer, streets, etc. Or how all these work to comprise even larger systems? Or how about nature systems- weather, vulcanism, hydrosphere, atmosphere, the earth, the solar system, the Universe, String theory's 11 dimensions? -I don't think you'd be satisfied that I know systems. -Soros sucks!
@mallardhead Yes, I do think of myself as a humanist.
One very unfair criticism of us is that we wouldn't share the fruits of our technology with the poor and disadvantaged -- nothing could be further from the truth!
We are committed to making technology available to the entire human population!
Why do you think we're working so hard on getting cheap laptops to the third world??
We'd love it if this stuff were taught at an earlier age, though, and to more students.
You'd share the fruits all right... by using the technology to enslave humanity. Proof of that is in how those who have the tech stipulate the conditions by which it will be given. Again, you, personally, may believe your leaders. But I see by their actions/inactions what liars/manipulators they are. Cheap laptops allow a means to id and track individuals for any of a variety of reasons. .. and yes, early indoctrination is quite effective... I got it from The Church... Evil!
My insight comes from being global and having an insatiable desire to learn about people. I understand religion (born to it) and humanism (educated under it) quite well. Each expresses ideals which are used to represent the best/worst of US. -Soros proved his destructive, enslaving ideals in eastern Europe, SE Asia and now the US. -It's not my place to prove God to you. It's His to prove Himself. -History is the proof that most 'leaders' enslave us. Read it! Then think a bit!
I don't see how you could accuse humanism of killing millions of people, while simultaneously criticizing humanists for supporting human rights, which you call "nonsense". Which is it?
if this is directed at me then it's simple: the Humanism 'leadership' has a different set of values and goals from the every day Humanist. ... That was the failure of Christianity as well.
Humanism purports eugenics. Humanists want to kill off 4.5 billion 'useless' individuals from the earth. You are the 'prophetess' of human destruction. Go figure out why you're such a liar!
No, humanists generally don't support killing off "4.5 billion 'useless' individuals from the earth". In fact that's pretty clearly incompatible with the basic tenets of humanism.
I do not look at what humanism says, but at what humanists do! (I learned that trick from atheists who do the same to Christianity, where they hide what they do under the words they speak!) But even then humanists outright say they want an optimum population of 2.7 billion (UN Optimum Pop report). Some even go as low as 500 million!
Bad Rap? Do you even know its history? It requires coercion through abuse of authority in forcing laws, social segregation into class: fit and unfit, etc. We do not have a DNA fix pill. Even if we did, mutation happens all the time. Transhumanism is just a new title for a very bad idea ... Your means of making the world better means doom for many...
Look on page 1001 - 1007 on the current US Health Care Bill and you will see a little program called, "National Medical Device Registry" sponsored by IBM and Positive ID.
Obama and Friends want all Americans to have a microchip implanted into their bodies that will legally allow us to receive Medical Care, Commerce (Purchase Any Items) and Travel Nationally/Internationally.
We get monitored 24 hours a day and as a direct result, lose all privacy and get forced into a New World Order!
I would never waste one second of my life watching something as lame as The People's Choice Awards. It's a pretty big assumption that everyone one there, except Carrie Underwood apparently, was an atheist, but let's hope it's the truth. By the way, Carrie, god had absolutely nothing to do with you winning.
I would that they are just as gullible and delusional as someone who thanks god and/or jesus when something goes their way. I'm still waiting for a public figure such as an athlete, musician or actor to blame allah, god or jesus when they don't win. Something tells me I'm in for a long wait. Let's see how bornagain001 answers your question, if at all.
Yes, noone is born believing in god. We are taught to believe in god. We are BRAINWASHED. Some of us grow up and use reasoning and logic to come to the conclusion that believing in an all powerful creator of the universe simply defies all logic and good sense. It's a cliche by now, but there is no more evidence of god than there is of santa claus, the easter bunny or the tooth fairy.
"who says life is sacred? (not god, because he dosent exist)"
To make such a claim, one would have to be omniscient. It is because the atheist is neither omniscient nor omnipresent that he then takes an ILLOGICAL LEAP by concluding that there is no God, because it CAN NOT BE PROVEN that He doesn't exist. Such reasoning is absurd. Why would anyone try to claim that God doesn't exist when His existence is axiomatic?
can you prove the flying spaghetti monster dosent exist? we can make that assumption, cant we. BUT he may very well exist. we only needed god in the fucking stone age to tell us not to beat the shit out of eachother. we dont need some spooky sky fairy figure to tell us whats right or wrong (which is actually a non existent concept in the first place) God may very well exist, but to not be an athiest, you would have either have severe mental problems or your just stupid. you are easily led
"God may very well exist, but to not be an athiest, you would have either have severe mental problems or your just stupid. you are easily led"
WE ARE ALL BORN ATHEISTS. Not one person alive today was born with a knowledge of God. But there are a few who shake the shackles that bound them to atheism and discover that God created each one of us for HIS PURPOSE. Do you know YOUR PURPOSE in life?
Now come, bornagain001. If God, as you imply here, is a "discovery", than surely belief would exist without the bombardment of the young by religious parents. And surely it would only be your Christ whom children "discovered" - not Allah or Vishnu or Adonai (or any of the thousands of other gods through the ages).
So which is it: Is god knowledge, or is god discovery?
Romans 1 tells us that God HAS MADE HIMSELF "manifest" in each one of us. In other words, the person who calls himself an atheist is only suppressing the TRUTH that God has placed in Him. Satan's sole purpose is to DECEIVE man. False God's and false religions are some of his greatest deceptions. Followed only by the Big Bang, evolution and abiogenesis.
Ohh! I see! Count me in - I'm a Christian now! Because it makes so much more sense to live life paying obedience to unchanging dogma from one particular ancient book of fairy tales than to employ common sense.
So let's see if I got this right . . . Satan and Jesus are real, but all those other gods are false, and evolution is just fabricated by Satan, as is the Big Bang and abiogenesis. Probably most of science is a product of Satan, right? Oh, you poor, misled sap.
I did not say science was product of Satan. In my own church there are Christian Biology and science teachers plus researchers, doctors and nurses who depend on science. There are certain "theories" based on BAD SCIENCE which are bogus. Remember ...Aristotle TAUGHT that everything revolved around the earth.
Aristotle can be forgiven; evolution deniers cannot. You did say evolution is a deception of Satan. You are saying this only because it inconveniences your biblical worldview. It is a robust theory, and I'm sure you know that the word "theory" carries much more weight in science than in philosophy. All fields of research point to evolution. It is falsifiable, but has never been falsified. You are willfully ignorant to the evidence even though the science behind evolutionary biology saves lives.
And we know that the Bible is the word of God. How? Because the Bible tells us so. But why believe the Bible? The Bible is infallible. How do we know? Because the Bible is the word of God. But why believe the Bible? Because the Bible tells us so. But why believe the Bible? The Bible is infallible. How do we know? Because the Bible is the word of God. But why believe the Bible? Because the Bible tells us so. But why believe the Bible? The Bible is infallible. How do we know? ad nauseam . . .
It doesn't really inconvenience my Biblical worldview because I used to believe in evolution and now I know the TRUTH. It doesn't matter how "robust" your theory is....it's still in error. I am not denying micro evolution which takes place WITHIN A SPECIES. I am denying Macro evolution which claims one species became another species. Fish to reptile. Reptiles to birds and Apes to Human. Ridiculous.
The evidence for evolution does not depend on observing macroevolution directly. There is a very great deal of other evidence, such as transitional fossils. (Talkorigins).
The only difference between micro & macroevolution is time, and to accept one means necessarily having to accept the other. The differentiation between Micro/Macro as imposed upon the Theory of Evolution by those who disbelieve in speciation events is an artificial differentiation.
Truth-knowing is the claim of every theist of every religion that takes his superstition seriously. It doesn't matter that you use all upper-case letters in the word truth....you're still wrong. Bold claims do make something true. You can deny the evidence until you turn blue in the face. You have no competing theory, and so, fail.
"It doesn't matter that you use all upper-case letters in the word truth....you're still wrong. Bold claims do make something true."
DEATH will come to both of us soon. The Bible compares our lives as a "vapor". It comes and goes that quickly. If you are right...it will all end. No one will know any different. If you are WRONG...an eternity in HELL awaits you. Please drive carefully. You are not prepared to stand before the Judgment seat of Christ.
And yet another theist concludes with all he has left, by paraphrasing the fallacious Pascal's Wager. In your case, it takes the same shape as your jealous, monster-god's bullying: the oh-so-Christian threat of eternal damnation. Can't maintain a logical argument? Just tell 'em they're goin' to hell; that'll shut 'em up!
All from one book of fairy tales penned by fearful, ignorant, power-hungry, desert-dwellers 2,000 years ago.
Which desert dweller do you speak of? Paul? He was a government employee---paid to find Christians and kill them. Matthew? Also a government employee as a Tax Collector. Luke?..a Physician. Moses? Lived in the Pharaohs palace until he killed a soldier and had to flee into the desert to avoid being caught. David? He was a King over millions of people. Mohammad? Sorry dude...wrong book. So tell me...what desert dweller are you referring to?
infideluxe, Nice win. As is almost always the case, an argument with a theist ends with said theist saying something like "Oh yeah? You just wait!" Imagine an airborn white towel.
his face is like a robot's, no sign of any expression. his slight smug when he babbles on about this bullshit is so enraging. the lipstick is too dark, it makes his face look like it's covered in rosacea and washes it out. go on, girl. you progressive-ass atheist tranny. xoxo.
Must suck to be you and have no reason to post other than to insult. Why troll? Nothing better to do with your time? I think it's kind of amusing in a pathetic way that ZJ bugs you so much. You must be quite the entertainment at a party, and please don't take that as a compliment.
emiflea, Why so hostile? Why would you be so enraged? I get the feeling you are shallow and superficial. It's all about looks, isn't it? Maybe you should start your own series of videos about fashion or make up, you know, something REALLY important to the world.
Why should I listen to a GUY who wears lipstick, eye makeup and a woman's hairstyle. Your own existence is one of CONFUSION....and yet you want us to TELL US that there IS NO JUDGMENT!
Humanism will eventually take over and religion will be kicked to the curb. It may take decades or even centuries, (let's hope not) but it WILL happen. We will grow up and abandon our pacifier, religion.
Perhaps, but as I am fond of saying if you try you might fail, if you don't try you will fail. We may disagree on methods, but I think we can agree on at least some things.
Why don't you people listen to what she has to say rather than getting all hung up on what she looks like. Think. Use your minds if you've got them. Stop being so shallow.
Inconsistency & inauthenticity of the Bible abound, becoming increasingly obvious over time. You, VirusFangX, rely on faith alone, and you should just admit it. Be brave.
Mencken: "The simple fact is that the New Testament, as we know it, is a helter-skelter accumulation of more or less discordant documents, some of them probably of respectable origin but others palpably apocryphal, and that most of them, the good along with the bad, show unmistakable signs of having been tampered with."
Biblical language is vague & ambiguous and apologists will go out of their way to interpret it as prophetic. Biblical statements about the natural world appear exactly as they should to people with the understanding of that time. Exactly as if there is no God speaking to humanity.
Cosmology's become a precise science, and says Earth was created 9 billion years after initiation of the big bang, contradicting Genesis's sequence. The Bible refers to the universe as a "firmament" that sits above a flat, immovable, Earth.
Romans - Gee, imagine that! The Bible stating that unbelievers are fools and that its own powers of prophecy are true, ya know!. How unexpected, lol.
sorry i don't have anything enlightening to say, but that background music just gave me the image of a viking or pirate going on some sort of determined voyage on the seven seas. XD
VirusFangX, Yes, you know much more than I do about religion and the scriptures. Pat yourself on the back. Said scriptures are still largely fictional as far as I'm concerned. In the end it all comes down to blind faith and belief in an all powerful, all knowing, all seeing, infallible, supreme creator of the universe, and I'm not buying it. I refuse to be a slave to a god that doesn't exist, or at least is playing a 20 centuries long game of hide and seek. I do not believe in god. Sorry.
VirusFangX, Maybe, just maybe, the bible is nothing but a big black book of fiction. I've read enough of it to know that one need's a vivid imagination to believe any of it. Belief in god and the bible demands abandoning all logic and reason. Oh yeah, and there is no evidence or proof whatsoever. What about hebrews and muslims? They each believe that their own special storybooks speak the truth. Somebody is wrong, could it be ALL of you?
I'm sorry, VirusFangX, but you're arguments both from incredulity and from ignorance.
"We don't know, so god did it. And guess what? His name is Yaweh!"
When we don't know, we say, "I don't know." The self-centered, god-as-repository-for-ignorance, response has been proffered for more than a couple of millennia, and you are only the next sheep buying the same snake-oil. You will most likely never know for sure before you die how the universe originated. Deal with it like an adult.
watergaia's last comment is nothing less than ridiculous. Does he/she really know anything about humanism? Equating humanism to communism is weak, not to mention cliche. watergaia says "humanism is satanism". What a stupid fucking statement. I smell a rabid christian.
Maybe it's a bigger joke to believe in god, or a "higher power" when there is not one single atom of evidence. Many people live full, satisfying lives without a belief a god or the higher power. I am sick of hearing about "godless communists". When communism fails it has absolutely nothing to do with a lack of religion. Also, is there really anything wrong with worshiping the earth? It does actually exist and without it, we do not and never did exist. It's good health is imperative to us.
@Watergaia: For only a split second I was thinking: "See, another silly American!" But then I realised I would offend many Americans who do not follow this idiotic and sickening religious crap. So I won't damn the entire nation. Only those morons who think there's a very old man in the clouds watching over you and who see everywhere communists and dangerous communistic ideologies. Perhaps I should be afraid as an evolutionist, I see silly creationists everywhere; I need help from a shrink.
You're wrong because a) you're making a "but they're not REAL Christians!" argument without any basis, and b) so-called "ultimate justice" is not necessary in order to implement justice. There never has been a "higher power", so why would lawlessness even depend on that? It changes nothing. We put our own laws in place to handle this -- because we're certainly not getting any help from above.
VirusFangX, There has been lawlessness ever since the very first law was put into effect. The bible being taken out of schools has nothing to do with it. Crime rates are higher in states that are the most religious, i.e. the southern states. Look at the very low crime rates in Scandinavia, countries that are quite secular. Do not presume to know how I feel about "ultimate justice".
Your hair looked very nice when it was shorter, and in your first video you mention becoming more natural at recording videos....now you seem very robotic.
Actually, Humanism ideology has religious origins. It is just another utopian ideology that is derived from christian ideology. All utopian ideologies are arrogant and are 'faith' based essentially.
I don't really see what you would consider Christian aspects of humanism. It is explicitly non-religious (I don't know what evidence you have of its alleged religious origins, but that's irrelevant to humanism in its present state). And I don't see why calling something utopian is supposed to be a criticism, or how accusations of arrogance are a way of actually finding fault with an ideology. Further, faith is not necessary for the evaluation and acceptance of humanism.
How's that supposed to work? The incarceration rate for Christians doesn't vary significantly from the general population. "A higher power and judgement" is not a credible threat. There are so many competing higher powers, and so many things you could be judged for! But there's no way to tell which one is right, because there's no evidence for any of them. Besides, putting off such a (unproven) judgement until after one dies just isn't an effective way of modifying behavior in this life.
Was the content of the video too complicated for you? Surely you can see how farting out this little flame, whining about ZJ's appearance, with nothing to say about the content, makes you look in the end?
Regarding your comment about humans needing to assuage their fear of death with a belief in heaven, The last sentence almost sounds as if you expect me to shuffle off "This Mortal Coil" at any minute. I certainly hope I'm not that close! Also, concerning cognitive dissonance, as I've always understood it, it certainly seems to make me more aware of my faults. ( and increases any guilt I may have! ) It does make one see things more clearly, however.
ZJ, I gotta tell you, I love you. I had no idea about this holiday, but I cannot count the number of times since I figured myself out that I've told people that "I believe in people." Some of them seem to get it, some don't, and let's face it. Humans are human. And so sometimes we disappoint. But that's what learning and growing as people is about. Bcse of my primary husband's pagan beliefs, we celebrate Yule, and X-mas with families too. I plan on adding Human Light next year. Thank you.
lol, In a sense maybe I am. However if you can't even figure out the basics of right and wrong, like don't go running around killing people, then you have bigger issues than this.
Christmas is hardly the only holiday related to the season. The jewish holiday for example. The objective, I believe, is to simply have something to call our own.
The Jewish holiday is purely Jewish. Christmas is anything but purely Christian. Sure the Christians celebrate it, but Christmas is the winter festival. You don't need the religious connotation to celebrate.
I love the fact you chose Holst for this video... one of my favorite composers! :) I have loved his Planets suite since I had the opportunity to play Jupiter and Mars back in high school for All-State orchestra tryouts.
I am loving the holiday of HumanLight as well; thank you for sharing this with all of us! I will definitely be celebrating it next year.
The Bible has only been acessible to the common folk for less than 500 years.William Tyndale1486-1542 was the first to use the printing press to mass publish Bibles for the common man.in 1525. He smuggled them into England from Belguim. He was a hunted man, caugh,tried&executed. I read his lifestory. For over 1000 years the Bible was under lock&key&even many clergy did'nt have access.It took 10 months to handwrite a Bible. The higher ups in religion&government held back the Bible from the people
RonSafreed 1 month ago
John Wycliffe1330-1385 who translated the Bible in 1382 from Latin into the early-middle English of the day beleived that the Bible should be in the language of the common folk as well as in their hands. He died in 1385, however in 1442 his remains were dug up&a trial was held&his bones were burned to powder&then dumped in a river. I read his lifestory.
RonSafreed 1 month ago
Humanists are destructive creatures since they follow only their own wants and desires and never regard humanity as a whole. Its a code word.
JamesRideout123 2 months ago
The first thing i noticed was Jupiter playing in the background o-o
Magnosious 6 months ago
I look forward to a day when people cease appealing for the intervention of g:ds, spirits, or governments, and appeal to people directly. Where do our rights come from? The DOI stated that the Creator endowed all men with unalienable rights. It didn't state that G:d or Providence did. The Creator could be the combination of what's built into us due to the natural selection, plus the surviving practices of past generations of humanity.
marasu66 7 months ago
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DEFINITION: Humanist; among the most naive and superstitious of all human beings, who believe that science and education will save us from our sins, in spite of the historical evidence after a so-called "age of enlightenment", there arose global imperialism and slavery, the American, French, Russian, Chinese and scores of other violent bloody revolutions, WWI, WWII, Vietnam and continuing, global mass pollution and a looming WWIII, perhaps the real "war to end all wars", who can say for sure?
richardaberdeen 7 months ago
Fag
FAMEROB 10 months ago
Is this a female lip-syncing a guys narrative?
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CyberrPolice 1 year ago
Nice one Z. I have always found it strange that the most misunderstood condition on this planet is purely and simply the Human one.
stratocaster539 1 year ago
Humanism? Well while I subscribe to many of their views I still see them as my views which just happen to be similar to Humanism. I support human rights, freedoms and free will among other things but wouldn't call myself humanist as I see it as an unnecessary label.
AlexThomson1000 1 year ago
@AlexThomson1000
I agree, it is an unnecessary label. Just because you care for your fellow human rights and freedoms doesn't mean you have to be labeled as humanist. Do we have to label everything we do as humans? I'm also against being cruel to animals. Does that make me a member of PETA? No. I don't need an organization to define who I am.
AzurBlaz 1 year ago 3
Is this like the white man's Kwanzaa?
RMCDisciple 1 year ago
I find it absolutely absurd and unneeded that we as humanists could even embrace a "Human Light" as a holiday - our objectives are so small in scale and nature...
GrowthSpiral 1 year ago
@PriscillaRelentless
Oh, then try this: Today's Christians are influenced by their 'leaders' to resist modern (scientific) thinking. Humanists are influenced by their 'leaders' to resist modern (religious) thinking. That's relevant. .. I am against social abortion, not medically necessary abortion. I am against establishing euthanasia as a social expectation. I hope you are intelligent enough to see the differences between your generalizing and my specifics.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@PriscillaRelentless
"killing" is in quotes as a sub to your use of "murderers". - Christians were influenced, by their 'leaders', to kill pagans and later each other in the name of Christ. - Humanists are being influenced, by their 'leaders', to kill humanely: abortion and euthanasia, in the name of Humanity. - Humanists write about population control .. as in only having between 500 million to 4.7 billion, max, with human breeding strictly controlled. Don't you read your own 'leaders' stuff?
mallardhead 1 year ago
First!!!
nytelordz 1 year ago
ZzzzzzzzZzzzzz what??
nytelordz 1 year ago
@PriscillaRelentless
truly it is what you do with it ... my point is how a few manipulate the many to the advantage of the few and the loss of the many... Influence can be a bad thing...
mallardhead 1 year ago
@PriscillaRelentless
exactly- but I would view them as complicit in their ignorance of what the extreme members or leadership did, does, will do, then not addressing it.- There is no excuse for such gross ignorance of what extremist or leaders do in the name of the movement.- You cannot just simply say, well that's not me, when you claim to own part of your movement. ... Bombers are no different that the abortionists. Both kill human life. Movement titles are irrelevant. Actions aren't.
mallardhead 1 year ago
I really don't know what to say i know this will be irrelevant to your video, but i just want to say Zinnia that you are such a wonderful person! your videos are so great, and very informative! and i know i new to your video, but i just love everyone of your videos i have watch!
I hope you have a wonderful X-Mas with you and your family!
ZylnorWrath 1 year ago
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but humans are evil and bad
versedaaron 1 year ago
777=666 said, "Look on page 1001 - 1007 on the current US Health Care Bill and you will see a little program called, "National Medical Device Registry" sponsored by IBM and Positive ID. Obama & Friends want all Americans to have a microchip implanted into their bodies to legally receive Medical Care, Purchase Any Comodities and Travel Nationally/Internationally. As a result, we get monitored 24 hours a day and as a direct result, lose all privacy and get forced into a New World Order!"
mallardhead 1 year ago
Epic music choice, lol.
RyuuMakato42 1 year ago
Now we just neeed a "SentientLight" holiday hehe
1982mockingbird1982 1 year ago
watch youtube vid:
TEDxBlue - Daniel J. Siegel, M.D. - 10/18/09
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
If I had it my way, there would only be 4 holidays, the first monday in January, April, July and October. Make sense?
thoughtsurfer1 1 year ago
Mmmm Holst...
TheElectricTurtle 1 year ago
@mallardhead
Humanism is focused on the importance of people... A far cry from killing them
dantheman0798879 2 years ago
@dantheman0798879
Interesting ... Christianity (in principle and by canon) is the same! ... But just like Humanism is being now, it was overwhelmed by those would use it to serve themselves. ... At the govt level there is NO difference in the goals of the leadership; and neither Christianity or Humanism are the real goals.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@dantheman0798879
humanism, as an ideal is as you say; but its reality is "killing", just as christianity's became. .. It is dependent upon the 'leadership' and yours is, like mine was, full of those who would do/do do violence to the world ... It's simply the reality of those who see selves as someone special and others as nobodies.
mallardhead 1 year ago
Seems some people here are confusing humanism with something else...don't know what exactly but ever hear of humanatarian aid ??? I'm sure they are not trying to kill 4.5 billion people but rather help people in dire circumstance
dantheman0798879 2 years ago
@dantheman0798879
nope! you're the uninformed one! ... you really need to read the writings of your organizations and leaders ....
mallardhead 1 year ago
@dantheman0798879
oh, and Dan, humanitarian aid is of NO consequence if the money is siphoned away from those who need it to those who "administer" it. -It is kind of you to give a dollar, but stupid of you if only 60 cents of your dollar, or less, goes to the purpose for which you gave it: humanitarian aid. That's why I try to qualify the common humanist humanitarian from those who siphon in the 'leadership'.
mallardhead 1 year ago
Fine! Wear your blinders! Bury your head in the ground! Ignore the problem of humans being human to the detriment of humanity! That allows 'them' to use your to their purposes! But eventually you will see your folly and scream. Hopefully it will be well before 'they' collar you as irrelevant. BTW, thanks for your replies. It's nice when THE real person answers you back.
mallardhead 2 years ago
@mallardhead Fine! DON'T AGREE WITH ME [insert every thing I am right about] blah blah blah!! YOU'LL SEE HOW WRONG YOU WERE [insert everything you are wrong about] blah blah blah blah!!"
FUCK! you must have three elbows on each arm, to be able to pat yourself on the back so effectively and effortlessly.
skepticoz 1 year ago
@skepticoz
Interesting take ... it's still true however! You simply drag all down with you as you go along to get along ... I did that, too (following a similar set of 'leaders')! Turns out it was a very bad thing! And 'look!', you're following my lead ... how ... ridiculous ... is that? ... 'FUCK!' only one shoulder, elbow and wrist; and I gave up patting myself after seeing the destruction blind following blind causes. ... Not too late for you, however! Grow up ... check out your 'leaders'.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead Interesting how quick you are to make assumptions. I'm not a follower of ANYBODY so I have no "leaders".
"you're following my lead ..."
Spare your ego the burden of doing all your thinking for you. I was criticizing your attitude of unsubstantiated self importance and certainly NOT following you.
"I did that, too (following a similar set of 'leaders')!"
So, you have a habit of playing this game of follow the leader and ceding to authority. No need to tar others with your brush.
skepticoz 1 year ago
@skepticoz
Your BS has BS as you are obviously oblivious to being used as a pawn, yet thinking you are independently thoughtful. A close review of your life (psy101) and who 'led/leads' you is in order. .. My "I did that, too" was an admission of being trained to it from birth. You were, too! .. Both of us feel we follow NOBODY at this time. .. And your ID, EGO, SUPER EGO are inflating your attitude and preceding you in a self-inflated substantial way! (The nature of the three as per Freud.)
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead
"Your BS has BS as you are obviously oblivious to being used as a pawn..."
Really? How is this obvious to you? I hadn't realized you had gathered so much data on me. I thought that the only knowledge you had about me and my personal life or my convictions in general were that I had criticized your presumption. A good way to counter the tendency of coming off as a conspiracy theorist, or having delusions of grandeur, is to show your evidence in a forthright manner and explain.
skepticoz 1 year ago
Respond to this video...
It's obvious in the things you say, which repeat things others of your persuasion said. Their influence is obvious. If you do not see it you are oblivious, still a Pawn, the best kind for them: unaware. -All that is necessary to any conspiracy is two or more folk in agreement as to belief and action. Humanism has a conspiracy: beliefs, plans and action, which the leadership doe not hide. And whether as a pawn or not, you are part of it.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead "A close review of your life (psy101) and who 'led/leads' you is in order. .."
If somebody said such things in my real life, unless I knew and trusted them, and they knew me fairly well, I'd be more inclined to think a restraining order was in order.
"My "I did that, too" was an admission of being trained to it from birth."
Well, that's YOU isn't it.
"You were, too! .. "
And you don't suppose for a second, you are being a wee tad presumptuous here? Sorry! Do I know you?
skepticoz 1 year ago
@skepticoz
lol! You're supposed to apply psy101 to yourself. I'm certainly not interested in your history, but I do know you have one. Everybody does and needs a good self-evaluation, regularly. Thanks for the giggle, tho! -As to my presumption, I did much more than psy101. To exist is to fall under the influence of others "from birth." It's the Nurture part of Nature vs., and quite unavoidable. Sorry you do not know this! Though you had a brain. Guess you're just a pawn. -2KnowMe.. you know?
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead "Both of us feel we follow NOBODY at this time."
Well, anybody can make vacuous claims. So far yours are as good as anybodies.
".. And your ID, EGO, SUPER EGO are inflating your attitude and preceding you in a self-inflated substantial way!"
And now they're not. I'm not the one making bold assertions and professing to know things here. Everybody has the capacity of ego. The thing is, I expect people to explain themselves and justify their bold assertions. What's your evidence?
skepticoz 1 year ago
@skepticoz
'vacuous'? Because you don't understand & choose to ridicule rather than ask questions? :( -I'm global! I analyze & synthesize data comprehensively. I study history, government, science, psych/sociology, literature, etc. I'm driven to learn about people! -Your capacity to swelled ego/need-of-recognition is obvious, as a review of your vids shows. You are driven by 'classical reason', analysis is your god, & so you post your assertions and opinions... boldly! .. vacuous? That's funny!
mallardhead 1 year ago
You have read the various humanist manifestos? My favorite is the 1933, as its most honest about what they plan to do to us. By the way, you're as wrong as you can be as to their goals. You need to read more of the writings of humanists. Of course I could be focused on the ones using humanism for their personal agendas.....
mallardhead 2 years ago
Irrelevant. Again, the vast majority of humanists do not support killing billions of people; this is not what humanism is about.
ZJemptv 2 years ago 8
@ZJemptv
The vast majority of Humanists, like the vast majority of Christians, is always at the mercy of its leadership. Your leadership, like mine, is out for itself. It really does not matter what either Humanism or Christianity is about. Your leadership is doing what mine did- seizing power and control for itself and screw the masses.....
mallardhead 1 year ago
@ZJemptv
not irrelevant .... the vast majority will blindly follow the lead of others, who make it seem theirs is the best way ... that's how it happened with Christianity ... throw in govt control and there's no difference between the two ... sheeple are sheeple.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead how dare you slander transhumanism that way!!!
It's barely even worth it to try to educate you.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
NO! The problem is getting you to understand the nature of human nature. - H+, in its purist sense, is a great ideal. So is pure socialism. But neither ideal can remain pure when human nature is involved. - If you are too ignorant to know this, too stupid to accept it, or too arrogant not to realize the danger it present to humanity, then YOU have a problem, not me!-- I'd love to see the end of all genetic anomalies but hate those who will play God. Read The Lathe of Heaven
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead We don't need to concern ourselves too much with genetics.
Genetics are just the map of the thing that bootstraps itself to become you.
I think that Cybernetics is the shortest path to helping humanity transcend itself, both by employing cybernetics for management, and as a tool to enhance the human brain.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
"We don't need to concern ourselves too much with genetics."? U R crazy! Apparently very! .. and George Sorros loves you to death, you crazy cybernaut! .. You are a definite an S1! .. I honestly think you are sincere, but you are so damned naive it hurts humanity! (and the ironic thing is you think yourself a humanist.)
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead yes sir, I am.
And no, direct brain implantation and drugs will have a much great effect on our neurology.
And yes, George Soros is a genius, so is Anthony Stafford Beer, Aldous Huxley, Alan Turing, Donal Knuth, John von Neumann (not many people have read his essays on the architecture of the human nervous system)
I'm so thankful that my math professor turned us onto Cybernetics.
We are 100% sincere in our desire to bring about a New World Order.
You don't understand it btw.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
BS that I don't understand it ... its totalitarianism! S1s dictating to the N1s. You'd create the Borg and deem yourselves Firsts. That's a fictional representation of an actual desire/system of actions. ... Geniuses? BS! ... To know how systems work is one thing. To use them against humanity in the name of humanity is quite different. ... Forcing a NWO, where S1s profit totally in power and wealth over N1s is not genius. It is abuse.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead I don't think it would be unfair of me to infer that you, in-fact DO NOT know how systems work, lol.
And, that's the most important thing.
I have personally applied Cybernetic feedback theory to many aspects of my life, and, I have to say, THAT STUFF WORKS.
I've turned many of my peers onto it.
And, for the last time, profit and wealth are trivial and irrelevant.
You honestly think I'm going to take a hand in violating others for my own means??
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
You are rude to think I don't understand Systems based on what little we've discussed. All I've revealed is that I am against the way it is being applied by some 'leaders' to gain advantage and usurp power and wealth, which are relevant beyond measure. Read Plato's 'Republic' to understand it! -I'm glad you use Cy Feedback and turn your friends on to it! If more people did that we'd be in a much better place world-wide. -I think you are as susceptible to being used as anyone.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead I don't think it's an unfair inference on my part that you're NOT an engineer.
No, I don't think you can dy/dx a function, nor inductively prove a recursive predicate.
I don't think you have even the foggiest idea of how computers work, at the bare metal, or how to write a turing-complete compiler.
And, you're one of those people that's going to tell me that, that's ok, you don't need to understand things like that, in order to have a serious discussion.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
Do I need to be an engineer to understand systems? NO! -As I said, I'm into understanding people: their history, nature and interactions. -I totally agree, if I knew more (engineering terms and practices) it would be easier to show you the errors in your thinking. It does seriously impact the discussion, as does your lack of knowledge and understanding of humanity overall. People are not things to systematically plug into your formulations and use and abuse for your purposes.
mallardhead 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
Derivatives determine rates. Changing a variable changes the rate. I have practical experience with it. -Recursive predicates are used in ancestry. Ever built a genogram? Requires deductive and inductive reasoning! -I admire your programming abilities but 'C++ is still just C with structs' (so don't get your head all swelled!). -I've added and replaced hardware/software. --It's not okay to be so limited, but then you're as limited. You think Soros is a NWO Savior! Try TYRANT!
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead I don't use C++ unless I have to.
Most of what I do with RFID hardware is in Python, I don't do any lower level embedded programming with any RFID hardware.
But yeah I have to develop algorithms and prove them, blah blah blah.
So me and most of my friends are sick of the Old World Order.
And a world based on reason and rationality is not a bad thing to hope for.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
Again, I admire your capabilities. I also agree the world needs more reason & rationality; but you must understand human interactive systems depend on more than those two things. A NWO based solely on them needs destruction. You also need to look at those who sit in leadership in this transition world order. They want to replace capitalism (for individual persons) & religion (GOD) with communism (for the state, not the People) & rule of govt dictate (themselves as gods).
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead go ahead, frantically hit google...
Sigh.
In any case, one things I've noticed, is that the best of us, the brightest of us, they ALL support a New World Order, population control, and one world government.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
Before there was google, the net or even computers I was into systems and how they work. So I'm NOT frantic. BUT google does provide a lot of good current info at a touch. Beats old info from worn books and a time consuming trip to the library. -I support a NWO, a responsible population and an ordered, unified govt based on the Declaration of Independence and original interp of The Constitution. .. I will fight the two class commie 1 world govt humanists are peddling. No S1s!
mallardhead 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
btw ... do I need to discuss in detail the human body as a system, or the various systems that comprise it? Or discuss govt as systems? how about city infrastructures -electrical, water, sewer, streets, etc. Or how all these work to comprise even larger systems? Or how about nature systems- weather, vulcanism, hydrosphere, atmosphere, the earth, the solar system, the Universe, String theory's 11 dimensions? -I don't think you'd be satisfied that I know systems. -Soros sucks!
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead Yes, I do think of myself as a humanist.
One very unfair criticism of us is that we wouldn't share the fruits of our technology with the poor and disadvantaged -- nothing could be further from the truth!
We are committed to making technology available to the entire human population!
Why do you think we're working so hard on getting cheap laptops to the third world??
We'd love it if this stuff were taught at an earlier age, though, and to more students.
I'd be so lost...
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
You'd share the fruits all right... by using the technology to enslave humanity. Proof of that is in how those who have the tech stipulate the conditions by which it will be given. Again, you, personally, may believe your leaders. But I see by their actions/inactions what liars/manipulators they are. Cheap laptops allow a means to id and track individuals for any of a variety of reasons. .. and yes, early indoctrination is quite effective... I got it from The Church... Evil!
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead I'm still mystified as to what gives a church-going outsider like you, such insight into US, something you can't possibly understand.
Frankly, I don't trust anything that can't be proven.
All of the theorems that I believe in have proofs.
I assume you believe in god? Proof? NO
What's your predicate?
That the "leaders" are going to use us to enslave humanity??
That's going to need extraordinary proof my friend!
As if we have leaders...
Go on, prove it! I'm listening!
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
My insight comes from being global and having an insatiable desire to learn about people. I understand religion (born to it) and humanism (educated under it) quite well. Each expresses ideals which are used to represent the best/worst of US. -Soros proved his destructive, enslaving ideals in eastern Europe, SE Asia and now the US. -It's not my place to prove God to you. It's His to prove Himself. -History is the proof that most 'leaders' enslave us. Read it! Then think a bit!
mallardhead 1 year ago
I don't see how you could accuse humanism of killing millions of people, while simultaneously criticizing humanists for supporting human rights, which you call "nonsense". Which is it?
ZJemptv 2 years ago 8
@ZJemptv
if this is directed at me then it's simple: the Humanism 'leadership' has a different set of values and goals from the every day Humanist. ... That was the failure of Christianity as well.
mallardhead 1 year ago
Humanism purports eugenics. Humanists want to kill off 4.5 billion 'useless' individuals from the earth. You are the 'prophetess' of human destruction. Go figure out why you're such a liar!
mallardhead 2 years ago
No, humanists generally don't support killing off "4.5 billion 'useless' individuals from the earth". In fact that's pretty clearly incompatible with the basic tenets of humanism.
ZJemptv 2 years ago 8
@ZJemptv
I do not look at what humanism says, but at what humanists do! (I learned that trick from atheists who do the same to Christianity, where they hide what they do under the words they speak!) But even then humanists outright say they want an optimum population of 2.7 billion (UN Optimum Pop report). Some even go as low as 500 million!
mallardhead 1 year ago
@mallardhead I'm sick of the bad rap that Eugenics gets.
Eugenics != Coercion
Eugenics can be done completely without force or violence.
Just because some people took it too far means nothing.
And yes, with less people, the world would be better off.
But, that gives you no right to call people like us murderers.
At least we want to make the world a better place.
I suggest you look into the bright and hopeful transhumanism.
AnonymousElektron 1 year ago
@AnonymousElektron
Bad Rap? Do you even know its history? It requires coercion through abuse of authority in forcing laws, social segregation into class: fit and unfit, etc. We do not have a DNA fix pill. Even if we did, mutation happens all the time. Transhumanism is just a new title for a very bad idea ... Your means of making the world better means doom for many...
mallardhead 1 year ago
<3 wonderful video
CakefaceSmut 2 years ago
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Look on page 1001 - 1007 on the current US Health Care Bill and you will see a little program called, "National Medical Device Registry" sponsored by IBM and Positive ID.
Obama and Friends want all Americans to have a microchip implanted into their bodies that will legally allow us to receive Medical Care, Commerce (Purchase Any Items) and Travel Nationally/Internationally.
We get monitored 24 hours a day and as a direct result, lose all privacy and get forced into a New World Order!
777equals666 2 years ago
Human Light? How dare you declare War on Christmas! I hereby declare a war on your War on Christmas with my Blitzkrieg on Grinchitude!
newsradiohead 2 years ago
I would never waste one second of my life watching something as lame as The People's Choice Awards. It's a pretty big assumption that everyone one there, except Carrie Underwood apparently, was an atheist, but let's hope it's the truth. By the way, Carrie, god had absolutely nothing to do with you winning.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
Did you see Carrie Underwood on the People Choice Awards last night. She THANKED GOD in front of all those atheists for all she has been given.
bornagain001 2 years ago
Okay? So what does it mean when someone thanks Allah?
ZJemptv 2 years ago
I would that they are just as gullible and delusional as someone who thanks god and/or jesus when something goes their way. I'm still waiting for a public figure such as an athlete, musician or actor to blame allah, god or jesus when they don't win. Something tells me I'm in for a long wait. Let's see how bornagain001 answers your question, if at all.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
humans suck
kartman1751 2 years ago
Thanks!
ZJemptv 2 years ago
Yes, noone is born believing in god. We are taught to believe in god. We are BRAINWASHED. Some of us grow up and use reasoning and logic to come to the conclusion that believing in an all powerful creator of the universe simply defies all logic and good sense. It's a cliche by now, but there is no more evidence of god than there is of santa claus, the easter bunny or the tooth fairy.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
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ndbass09 2 years ago
who says life is sacred? (not god, because he dosent exist) ps you look like manson in this video :p
evilresidence4 2 years ago
"who says life is sacred? (not god, because he dosent exist)"
To make such a claim, one would have to be omniscient. It is because the atheist is neither omniscient nor omnipresent that he then takes an ILLOGICAL LEAP by concluding that there is no God, because it CAN NOT BE PROVEN that He doesn't exist. Such reasoning is absurd. Why would anyone try to claim that God doesn't exist when His existence is axiomatic?
bornagain001 2 years ago
can you prove the flying spaghetti monster dosent exist? we can make that assumption, cant we. BUT he may very well exist. we only needed god in the fucking stone age to tell us not to beat the shit out of eachother. we dont need some spooky sky fairy figure to tell us whats right or wrong (which is actually a non existent concept in the first place) God may very well exist, but to not be an athiest, you would have either have severe mental problems or your just stupid. you are easily led
evilresidence4 2 years ago
"God may very well exist, but to not be an athiest, you would have either have severe mental problems or your just stupid. you are easily led"
WE ARE ALL BORN ATHEISTS. Not one person alive today was born with a knowledge of God. But there are a few who shake the shackles that bound them to atheism and discover that God created each one of us for HIS PURPOSE. Do you know YOUR PURPOSE in life?
bornagain001 2 years ago
@bornagain001
"...and discover that God created each one of us for"
No. I'm a product of a genetic code that has been changing for millions of years. And I can show you that.
Can you show me god created you?
founoe 2 years ago
my purpose was to preach athiesm to you MOTHERFUCKER you just got owned.
evilresidence4 2 years ago
Now come, bornagain001. If God, as you imply here, is a "discovery", than surely belief would exist without the bombardment of the young by religious parents. And surely it would only be your Christ whom children "discovered" - not Allah or Vishnu or Adonai (or any of the thousands of other gods through the ages).
So which is it: Is god knowledge, or is god discovery?
infideluxe 2 years ago
Romans 1 tells us that God HAS MADE HIMSELF "manifest" in each one of us. In other words, the person who calls himself an atheist is only suppressing the TRUTH that God has placed in Him. Satan's sole purpose is to DECEIVE man. False God's and false religions are some of his greatest deceptions. Followed only by the Big Bang, evolution and abiogenesis.
bornagain001 2 years ago
bornagain001
Ohh! I see! Count me in - I'm a Christian now! Because it makes so much more sense to live life paying obedience to unchanging dogma from one particular ancient book of fairy tales than to employ common sense.
So let's see if I got this right . . . Satan and Jesus are real, but all those other gods are false, and evolution is just fabricated by Satan, as is the Big Bang and abiogenesis. Probably most of science is a product of Satan, right? Oh, you poor, misled sap.
infideluxe 2 years ago
I did not say science was product of Satan. In my own church there are Christian Biology and science teachers plus researchers, doctors and nurses who depend on science. There are certain "theories" based on BAD SCIENCE which are bogus. Remember ...Aristotle TAUGHT that everything revolved around the earth.
bornagain001 2 years ago
Aristotle can be forgiven; evolution deniers cannot. You did say evolution is a deception of Satan. You are saying this only because it inconveniences your biblical worldview. It is a robust theory, and I'm sure you know that the word "theory" carries much more weight in science than in philosophy. All fields of research point to evolution. It is falsifiable, but has never been falsified. You are willfully ignorant to the evidence even though the science behind evolutionary biology saves lives.
infideluxe 2 years ago
And we know that the Bible is the word of God. How? Because the Bible tells us so. But why believe the Bible? The Bible is infallible. How do we know? Because the Bible is the word of God. But why believe the Bible? Because the Bible tells us so. But why believe the Bible? The Bible is infallible. How do we know? Because the Bible is the word of God. But why believe the Bible? Because the Bible tells us so. But why believe the Bible? The Bible is infallible. How do we know? ad nauseam . . .
infideluxe 2 years ago
It doesn't really inconvenience my Biblical worldview because I used to believe in evolution and now I know the TRUTH. It doesn't matter how "robust" your theory is....it's still in error. I am not denying micro evolution which takes place WITHIN A SPECIES. I am denying Macro evolution which claims one species became another species. Fish to reptile. Reptiles to birds and Apes to Human. Ridiculous.
bornagain001 2 years ago
The evidence for evolution does not depend on observing macroevolution directly. There is a very great deal of other evidence, such as transitional fossils. (Talkorigins).
The only difference between micro & macroevolution is time, and to accept one means necessarily having to accept the other. The differentiation between Micro/Macro as imposed upon the Theory of Evolution by those who disbelieve in speciation events is an artificial differentiation.
infideluxe 2 years ago
Truth-knowing is the claim of every theist of every religion that takes his superstition seriously. It doesn't matter that you use all upper-case letters in the word truth....you're still wrong. Bold claims do make something true. You can deny the evidence until you turn blue in the face. You have no competing theory, and so, fail.
infideluxe 2 years ago
"It doesn't matter that you use all upper-case letters in the word truth....you're still wrong. Bold claims do make something true."
DEATH will come to both of us soon. The Bible compares our lives as a "vapor". It comes and goes that quickly. If you are right...it will all end. No one will know any different. If you are WRONG...an eternity in HELL awaits you. Please drive carefully. You are not prepared to stand before the Judgment seat of Christ.
bornagain001 2 years ago
boornagain001
And yet another theist concludes with all he has left, by paraphrasing the fallacious Pascal's Wager. In your case, it takes the same shape as your jealous, monster-god's bullying: the oh-so-Christian threat of eternal damnation. Can't maintain a logical argument? Just tell 'em they're goin' to hell; that'll shut 'em up!
All from one book of fairy tales penned by fearful, ignorant, power-hungry, desert-dwellers 2,000 years ago.
Gotta love Iron-Age thinking in the 21st century.
infideluxe 2 years ago
Which desert dweller do you speak of? Paul? He was a government employee---paid to find Christians and kill them. Matthew? Also a government employee as a Tax Collector. Luke?..a Physician. Moses? Lived in the Pharaohs palace until he killed a soldier and had to flee into the desert to avoid being caught. David? He was a King over millions of people. Mohammad? Sorry dude...wrong book. So tell me...what desert dweller are you referring to?
bornagain001 2 years ago
Ah, but you deflect, don't you? You are simply unworthy of further discussion, inculcated as you are in the comforting trap of your myth-of-choice.
I'm sorry, bornagain001, did you say something?
infideluxe 2 years ago
As a past unbeliever (which all of us were) I was indeed in a trap of a myth. I NOW understand TRUTH.
bornagain001 2 years ago
bornagain001 -
Your truth-claims, plus a shiny quarter, will buy you a brightly colored gumball.
infideluxe 2 years ago 2
infideluxe, Nice win. As is almost always the case, an argument with a theist ends with said theist saying something like "Oh yeah? You just wait!" Imagine an airborn white towel.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
This is a great idea for celebrating the season without religion. Thanks for telling us about it, ZJ.
Merry Human Light to all, and to all a good night.
ShaeFan 2 years ago
his face is like a robot's, no sign of any expression. his slight smug when he babbles on about this bullshit is so enraging. the lipstick is too dark, it makes his face look like it's covered in rosacea and washes it out. go on, girl. you progressive-ass atheist tranny. xoxo.
emiflea 2 years ago
emiflea
Must suck to be you and have no reason to post other than to insult. Why troll? Nothing better to do with your time? I think it's kind of amusing in a pathetic way that ZJ bugs you so much. You must be quite the entertainment at a party, and please don't take that as a compliment.
infideluxe 2 years ago
lol what
ZJemptv 2 years ago
i love you, that's what.
emiflea 2 years ago
emiflea, Why so hostile? Why would you be so enraged? I get the feeling you are shallow and superficial. It's all about looks, isn't it? Maybe you should start your own series of videos about fashion or make up, you know, something REALLY important to the world.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
Why should I listen to a GUY who wears lipstick, eye makeup and a woman's hairstyle. Your own existence is one of CONFUSION....and yet you want us to TELL US that there IS NO JUDGMENT!
bornagain001 2 years ago
@bornagain001
"Why should I listen to a GUY who wears lipstick"
He makes a good point, lipstick or not.
founoe 2 years ago
@bornagain001 youre a conservative douchebag, but atleast i get the conservate douchebag point of view. asshole.
evilresidence4 2 years ago
Humanism will eventually take over and religion will be kicked to the curb. It may take decades or even centuries, (let's hope not) but it WILL happen. We will grow up and abandon our pacifier, religion.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
Way to read the telepromter on your computer !!
mosquewatcher 2 years ago
Perhaps, but as I am fond of saying if you try you might fail, if you don't try you will fail. We may disagree on methods, but I think we can agree on at least some things.
Fare thee well my fellow feline.
MasterBlueTiger 2 years ago
Actually the concept has been around since the end of the dark ages, so no, new it is not.
MasterBlueTiger 2 years ago
Why don't you people listen to what she has to say rather than getting all hung up on what she looks like. Think. Use your minds if you've got them. Stop being so shallow.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
Man this guy is just fucking weird.
xxdiogenescynicxx 2 years ago
Are you a man wearing lipstick
jjccccc 2 years ago
Wow, your so advanced... -.-
IceOnFireProductionz 2 years ago
Inconsistency & inauthenticity of the Bible abound, becoming increasingly obvious over time. You, VirusFangX, rely on faith alone, and you should just admit it. Be brave.
Mencken: "The simple fact is that the New Testament, as we know it, is a helter-skelter accumulation of more or less discordant documents, some of them probably of respectable origin but others palpably apocryphal, and that most of them, the good along with the bad, show unmistakable signs of having been tampered with."
infideluxe 2 years ago 2
Biblical language is vague & ambiguous and apologists will go out of their way to interpret it as prophetic. Biblical statements about the natural world appear exactly as they should to people with the understanding of that time. Exactly as if there is no God speaking to humanity.
infideluxe 2 years ago
The Bible is a story book, remove the "his-".
Cosmology's become a precise science, and says Earth was created 9 billion years after initiation of the big bang, contradicting Genesis's sequence. The Bible refers to the universe as a "firmament" that sits above a flat, immovable, Earth.
Romans - Gee, imagine that! The Bible stating that unbelievers are fools and that its own powers of prophecy are true, ya know!. How unexpected, lol.
I'm afraid the Kool-aid runs deep in your veins.
infideluxe 2 years ago 5
HumanLight is a bit 19th century... We should be celebrating *TranshumanLight*. Praise science and technology -- the true Light of the World!
Parapon3ra 2 years ago 6
sorry i don't have anything enlightening to say, but that background music just gave me the image of a viking or pirate going on some sort of determined voyage on the seven seas. XD
DBSKlovesBALLOONS 2 years ago
VirusFangX, Yes, you know much more than I do about religion and the scriptures. Pat yourself on the back. Said scriptures are still largely fictional as far as I'm concerned. In the end it all comes down to blind faith and belief in an all powerful, all knowing, all seeing, infallible, supreme creator of the universe, and I'm not buying it. I refuse to be a slave to a god that doesn't exist, or at least is playing a 20 centuries long game of hide and seek. I do not believe in god. Sorry.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
VirusFangX, Maybe, just maybe, the bible is nothing but a big black book of fiction. I've read enough of it to know that one need's a vivid imagination to believe any of it. Belief in god and the bible demands abandoning all logic and reason. Oh yeah, and there is no evidence or proof whatsoever. What about hebrews and muslims? They each believe that their own special storybooks speak the truth. Somebody is wrong, could it be ALL of you?
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
ZJemp why didnt u reply to my PM? is your arguement flawed?
kikkolee 2 years ago
I'm sorry, VirusFangX, but you're arguments both from incredulity and from ignorance.
"We don't know, so god did it. And guess what? His name is Yaweh!"
When we don't know, we say, "I don't know." The self-centered, god-as-repository-for-ignorance, response has been proffered for more than a couple of millennia, and you are only the next sheep buying the same snake-oil. You will most likely never know for sure before you die how the universe originated. Deal with it like an adult.
infideluxe 2 years ago
watergaia's last comment is nothing less than ridiculous. Does he/she really know anything about humanism? Equating humanism to communism is weak, not to mention cliche. watergaia says "humanism is satanism". What a stupid fucking statement. I smell a rabid christian.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
Watergaia, you're an idiot. Go learn what Humanism is before you comment!
nealithh 2 years ago
Maybe it's a bigger joke to believe in god, or a "higher power" when there is not one single atom of evidence. Many people live full, satisfying lives without a belief a god or the higher power. I am sick of hearing about "godless communists". When communism fails it has absolutely nothing to do with a lack of religion. Also, is there really anything wrong with worshiping the earth? It does actually exist and without it, we do not and never did exist. It's good health is imperative to us.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
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founoe 2 years ago
humanism is satanism, egoism, i-want-to-be-god-ism, self-worship and mother-earth worship!
humanists believe that humans are gods who know everything, that's why humanists think they are right.
i've also heard that communism is the goal of humanism. rejection of god leads to communism and state worship!
watergaia 2 years ago
@watergaia
I'd much rather worship the state than god for the simple reason that the state actually exists.
founoe 2 years ago
@Watergaia: For only a split second I was thinking: "See, another silly American!" But then I realised I would offend many Americans who do not follow this idiotic and sickening religious crap. So I won't damn the entire nation. Only those morons who think there's a very old man in the clouds watching over you and who see everywhere communists and dangerous communistic ideologies. Perhaps I should be afraid as an evolutionist, I see silly creationists everywhere; I need help from a shrink.
Leviwosc 2 years ago
You're wrong because a) you're making a "but they're not REAL Christians!" argument without any basis, and b) so-called "ultimate justice" is not necessary in order to implement justice. There never has been a "higher power", so why would lawlessness even depend on that? It changes nothing. We put our own laws in place to handle this -- because we're certainly not getting any help from above.
ZJemptv 2 years ago
VirusFangX, There has been lawlessness ever since the very first law was put into effect. The bible being taken out of schools has nothing to do with it. Crime rates are higher in states that are the most religious, i.e. the southern states. Look at the very low crime rates in Scandinavia, countries that are quite secular. Do not presume to know how I feel about "ultimate justice".
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
Your hair looked very nice when it was shorter, and in your first video you mention becoming more natural at recording videos....now you seem very robotic.
dragonfly690 2 years ago
Actually, Humanism ideology has religious origins. It is just another utopian ideology that is derived from christian ideology. All utopian ideologies are arrogant and are 'faith' based essentially.
StoicAtheist 2 years ago
I don't really see what you would consider Christian aspects of humanism. It is explicitly non-religious (I don't know what evidence you have of its alleged religious origins, but that's irrelevant to humanism in its present state). And I don't see why calling something utopian is supposed to be a criticism, or how accusations of arrogance are a way of actually finding fault with an ideology. Further, faith is not necessary for the evaluation and acceptance of humanism.
ZJemptv 2 years ago
How's that supposed to work? The incarceration rate for Christians doesn't vary significantly from the general population. "A higher power and judgement" is not a credible threat. There are so many competing higher powers, and so many things you could be judged for! But there's no way to tell which one is right, because there's no evidence for any of them. Besides, putting off such a (unproven) judgement until after one dies just isn't an effective way of modifying behavior in this life.
ZJemptv 2 years ago
what is with the fucking lipstick? your voice and the lipstick.. i just can't take you seriously. you sound so fucking arrogant.
emiflea 2 years ago
@emiflea
Was the content of the video too complicated for you? Surely you can see how farting out this little flame, whining about ZJ's appearance, with nothing to say about the content, makes you look in the end?
infideluxe 2 years ago
Black and white? The world is a shade of gray. Stop assuming so much, makes you look stupid.
You basically just surmised what humanist ethics actually are and didn't even know it. Logical morality and situational ethics.
Its obvious which one of us is in the "fantasy" world when you can't even get your facts straight.
MasterBlueTiger 2 years ago
Regarding your comment about humans needing to assuage their fear of death with a belief in heaven, The last sentence almost sounds as if you expect me to shuffle off "This Mortal Coil" at any minute. I certainly hope I'm not that close! Also, concerning cognitive dissonance, as I've always understood it, it certainly seems to make me more aware of my faults. ( and increases any guilt I may have! ) It does make one see things more clearly, however.
TIMOTHYSAARINEN 2 years ago
For some reason this did not show up in my subscription box. Fortunately I check your channel frequently. 5 stars from me.
HappyCabbie 2 years ago
Btw...you look particularly beautiful in this vid. Hope you don't mind me saying so.
talon0sage 2 years ago
ZJ, I gotta tell you, I love you. I had no idea about this holiday, but I cannot count the number of times since I figured myself out that I've told people that "I believe in people." Some of them seem to get it, some don't, and let's face it. Humans are human. And so sometimes we disappoint. But that's what learning and growing as people is about. Bcse of my primary husband's pagan beliefs, we celebrate Yule, and X-mas with families too. I plan on adding Human Light next year. Thank you.
talon0sage 2 years ago
lol, In a sense maybe I am. However if you can't even figure out the basics of right and wrong, like don't go running around killing people, then you have bigger issues than this.
MasterBlueTiger 2 years ago
I don't understand the need for a humanist winter festival. Just celebrate Christmas.
DanteCWB 2 years ago
@DanteCWB
But what if I don't feel that the birth of a zombie jew is worth celebrating?
founoe 2 years ago
Then don't. Just celebrate Christmas.
DanteCWB 2 years ago
Christmas is hardly the only holiday related to the season. The jewish holiday for example. The objective, I believe, is to simply have something to call our own.
MasterBlueTiger 2 years ago
The Jewish holiday is purely Jewish. Christmas is anything but purely Christian. Sure the Christians celebrate it, but Christmas is the winter festival. You don't need the religious connotation to celebrate.
DanteCWB 2 years ago
Too bad blacks are not on your list you racist freak.
Ikilledsugarspook45 2 years ago
I love the fact you chose Holst for this video... one of my favorite composers! :) I have loved his Planets suite since I had the opportunity to play Jupiter and Mars back in high school for All-State orchestra tryouts.
I am loving the holiday of HumanLight as well; thank you for sharing this with all of us! I will definitely be celebrating it next year.
sugarycactus 2 years ago