PGR Review for Zune HD (plus iPhone/iPod touch comparison)

[vaibhav402]

why the fuck do any of the apps in iphone or wp7 or android have an exit option...i mean cmon on an iphone i have to minimize my app double tap my home button....hold the app icon and hit the '-' button...pretty annoying

[Zomb1eX]

@vaibhav402 agreed

[DavidDaily100]

you should try swiping (handbrake) it's kinda cool

[Thunderbolt505T]

I don't really care how good or bad the games are, the ones I have so far (BBQ Battle, Ferrari racing, Piano, etc) were free, and freee is better than paying for stuff. HOORAY FOR FREE APPS :D

[Electronicreviews10]

I don't know they both look the same nothing of the graphics has not changed on Ipod touch and Zune HD

[Electronicreviews10]

I really enjoy this game on my Zune HD it's fun

[600username]

yes i like to zune hd and itouch comparison i think you should do tht drum app

[MH5tube]

PGR is one game, and the one on the iPod was something like Burnout? Can't compare.......

[MrRallemulle]

Zune and Apple rocks, while fanboys sucks.

[MrRainmaker20]

cut to the chase OK

[HM9408K1LL3R]

ZuneHD vs iPod is like Ferrari vs Nissan :D

[killertone83]

i fucking hate stupid ass apple

[longluvedrappers]

they should have android installed on this and allow u to watch youtube >.>...there should be some apps like seriously...like a community devlopment project to get or something..

[longluvedrappers]

they should have android installed on this and allow u to watch youtube >.>...there should be some apps like seriously...like a community devlopment project to get ore..

[everyANDnoThinG23]

Hahaha you guy's just make my day...dkheads

[gameingboyz]

androids are hella better than these devices but i do want an ipod touch 64gb more than a zune hd

[TheFrankman37]

how do you have all these apps i have a zune and the marketplace doesnt have that much apps

[atvchick09]

@TheFrankman37 THere is a 3rd party who has like over 100 apps already

[MrAngryPinata]

I personally think Apple has an advantage over Microsoft at the moment or at least until Microsoft makes there zune hd phone capable. Cause I mean look at it this way lets say a 40 year old buisness man needs a good quality phone for work but also likes to play video games ocasionaly but does'nt want to have to buy a phone and a portable gaming system. He see's that the Iphone does both plus has music capability he is most likely going to pick an Iphone over a zune hd because it fits all of his

[MrAngryPinata]

@MrAngryPinata in one swoop. I think Microsoft would be stupid to not make Zune hd phone capable (my own opinion).

[MrShawtyshorty]

@MrAngryPinata They tried to put too many shit on the iphone that's why it has poor service and drops calls. i've heard several people complaining about the poor service and malfucntions the iphone 4. apple just wants money dats why they include as much shit as possible no matter if it's good or not. Zune only focused on the music player and made it so costumers would be satisfied not just to take their money.

[atvchick09]

@MrShawtyshorty Yeah my friend just got one and he is disappointed and wants his flip phone back haha

[MadsWest]

Freaking cool graphics!

[levytheman95]

if this is just the start its a good one apples first apps were mu8ch worse than this

[JandTProductions69]

its true

[jnmixer]

will the zune ever have online gaming

[z7HD]

LMFAO u dont even know how to drift....

[SlidetoCrack]

I might get ZuneHD but I'm going to wait until there is the capability for user created apps

[juggaloking21]

@SlidetoCrack

I don't know how it works per se, but you can download the SDK for the Zune HD for free. I believe it is the XNA architecture that is used for creating games on Xbox Live.

[M0rBiDxFA]

@juggaloking21 Yeah, games and apps will be coming out soon since this was released.

[SlidetoCrack]

That game is exactly the same as Ferrari GT for iPod

[LuisDanielNovoa]

And there is already a Ferrari game for the iPod/iPhone but it doesn't have just 12 Ferrari cars it has 34

[JandTProductions69]

but it costs money

[LuisDanielNovoa]

Oh and You say you can't find any app like this for the iphone, I think you mean that the only racing games you can find for the iphone are like this and better.

Let's just look at GT Racing: Motor Academy by Gameloft a racer in the likes of grand turismo

107 cars constantly free updated with more

17 Tracks

Amazing Graphics

[LuisDanielNovoa]

Please don't compare this game to Asphalt 5, compare it to the good iphone racers like Need For Speed SHIFT or GT Racing academy. plus the ipod touch is better in any way than the Zune HD especially in games (Call Of Duty, Resident Evil,Command And Conquer, FIFA, Madden and too much to fit in here).

[SynthRay]

The iPhone app is a bit better from the amount of cars you can choose from.

But 7$?

Seriously? No thanks.

[Kzeron]

what 3rd party apps means?? srry guys but im kinda ignorant when talking bout this stuff

[mjenabi2]

means applications developed by other companies rather than microsoft themselves.

[halfingr]

The polygon rate for Asphault is less than half than that of PGR. The same goes with the physics engine. It shows the ultimate potential it has over the iPod/iPhone series, its just that Microsoft doesn't want just anybody programming on XNA. If Microsoft actually let in real developers instead of just letting inter-Microsoft game developers developer other peoples games for them, playing the ZuneHD would be more like playing on a PSP, rather than playing a touchscreen media player.

[tripleS9000]

SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPP

|u can say all tht without tht long of a video game

ASSHOLE

SO SUCK ITT

[sbs260]

i dont know

although the app for the zune pgr is free...

its only ferrari's and thats it

not much varietie.

while Asphalt 5 has TONS and TOns of cars.

and the graphics are abit better + upgrades.

but i do agree that free for that good graphics and game play for its class is superior to Asphalt but

a 7? its abit low... i personally would have gave it a 8.5 due to how much cars *or bikes* there is to pick to keep u coming for more, while you probably would get bored of the ferrari's fast.

[Didjuno]

PGR on the Zune HD also has damage to your cars if you hit a wall or another car Asphalt 5 does not.

[lipsyncnetwork]

i love my zune hd..... but microsoft is being completely ridiculous by only offering 15 apps. isn't half of the reason you 'put in the tegra chip is to have a great gaming experience? hey bill gates fuck you

[megadeth8592]

dude the ipod touch didnt even have apps when it first came out

so just give it some time

or go play some 360 or whatever u have

[cucumbers2007]

@lipsyncnetwork 

ZuneHD just came out... -_- give it time

[ironskilit]

bill gates is no longer the ceo

[mrguyorama]

@lipsyncnetwork Bill gates retired like two years ago haha

[Shad0whearth]

hate accelerolablabla controls on racing games! old school push to steer is alot better

[WretchedDrake]

agreed

[y2jarmy]

yeah zune hd rules

[weirdmage]

I would so go for the ZuneHD but the only reason I got an iTouch is because it has a jailbreak and I'm not even sure if Zune will come out with a jailbreak.

[JuniorTekLive]

its not going to come with a jailbreak since you can just upload games of your own you dont have to jailbreak it to add games like the ipod

[zs7iey]

@JuniorTekLive

exactly

[zs7iey]

@weirdmage

dude you dont need to jailbreak it.

you can easily create, download and share your own apps as well as other if they're written with xna. i have all kinds of free, user generated apps for my zune hd right not, and they are great for 1337 h4x0rx like u

[qwedgeonline12]

Why do ANY of you even bother to post on this video anymore? Just like what you want and who cares what other people say. Your opinion is an opinion, and I highly doubt you will change each others' mind about the Zune HD or iPod Touch. They both have their faults, and leave it at that. @halfingr, you're telling me that cell phone styled internet is complex technology? Stop living in 2006. *PS. I am an Apple Fanboy, but at least I am willing to say that $7 for a game is retarded.

[zswickliffe]

I may be wrong, but I think he may be referring to the 8 cell Nvidia Tegra processor, which is extremely complex, allowing for amazing graphics and applications.

[AllPs3suck]

@qwedgeonline12 Lol would you rather pay $7 for a game(itouch) or $60 for a game (xbox 360/ps3)

[qwedgeonline12]

Yeah, actually I would, but the Xbox and PS3 have NOTHING to do with this video.

[halfingr]

Yeah, I agree with you ZHDAR that the gameplay on the iPhone application is better, but the main difference between the iPhone application and this Zune one, is that the game itself; its internal machinations, are much simpler.

See:

(iPod technology) Simple device = Simple apps = Simple gameplay = Easy

(Zune technology) Complex device = Complex apps = Complex gameplay = Hard

[part2themovie]

wow tilting your fucking screen is the dumbest gimmick i ever saw. and all the dumbfucks are like nooo its cool... sigh

[halfingr]

@part2themovie

Let me guess, you were thinking about putting a full size steering wheel on the screen? Xd

I'd like to see the games you design. lol.

[jeepers2021]

@halfingr lmaooo

[part2themovie]

you guys got some really dumb analogies. i hate the ipod but since when did it become so shitty and the apps werent working

your arguments fail, just admit ur fan boys and call it a day

[havokauto]

im tired of ipod lovers all they talk about is apps not quality so i guess 90,000 cars not running is better than 5 cars that run i hate ipod hoes

[lolmoper]

@havokauto lol so there are literally hoe's on the streets with ipods while they are waiting for a customer haha

[MegaVirgo4]

@havokauto lol dont hate, they say just the same about you zune hoes



[J0o0o0o03]

ooohhhh boy bunkyda, they both do the exact same stuff. If anything the zune does more. Take the first gen ipod and compare. Yeah zune kills it.

[iTouchiPodez]

hello ipod touch first gen is very old and the zune hd is fairly new cant compare an old ipod touch to a new product

[halfingr]

@iTouchiPodez

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

If you're looking to go and congregate with other apple fan-girls, go look at an apple fangirl video, not a legitimate review video.

[iTouchiPodez]

@halfingr dude im saying you cant compare a First Gen iPod Touch To A NEW Zune HD the first ipod touch did NOT have much to start with, no app store, external speakers only a music player and internet broswer basically.

the new zune hd has a small app store, lacks external speakers but HD quality.

plus did i even say i like apple products??? i only said you cant compare the first gen to a Zune HD, made in 2009, and iPod Touch 1G, made in like 2004-2006, made in 2007.

Its fairer for the 3Gone

[zar8752]

@iTouchiPodez

"plus did i even say i like apple products???"

Well based on your username...

[iTouchiPodez]

@zar8752 dude i had to other names to pick its this or iPodzsucksveryalot and i would get hate mail from apple fans

[bunkyda]

zune hd=fail ipod touch= Pocket computer with over 100,000 apps beat that microsoft

[mysteriousknome]

100,000 apps= shitty cover up for poor music playback. its quality not quantity that really makes the difference for Zune. 100,000 apps=no lasting appeal and very unlikely you would even use a third of them. In addition, at least zune gives us something refreshing to look at Ipod touch gens=same design just smaller wow thats really refreshing. You can keep your 100,000 apps ill take excellent music playback and high quality games that are actually worth something..

[maximum512]

@mysteriousknome

i had a i touch the quality wasn't that bad

games? are u serious i pods had alot better games i mean a lot especially after you jail break it dude i like my zune hd but if can go back in time and prevent myself from getting mugged for my itouch id be happier

[wolfbite6]

@mysteriousknome i love you lol but totally i agree i love my hd ill never let it go

[MrRallemulle]

@mysteriousknome I hear a fanboy here my friend.

[MegaVirgo4]

@mysteriousknome you can hardly hear the difference lol stupid to go for something that you barely notice

[DrawerWorthy]

@mysteriousknome Go fucking suck Bill off then.

[TheHusky9]

@bunkyda the fact that there are so many apps (AND 90% OF THEM ARE USELESS), on the itunes app store is because apple has poor quality control, and let any shit through to the store.

[vorjay]

fanboy much?

[krosMx]

is hard to say, but the ipod touch is better

[amBullseye]

No way. I just found out, thanks to you, that depending on the initial horizontal position of your player, the game starts either with the jack at the left side or the jack at the right side.

At the other youtube videos you can see loads of people saying the headphone jack at the right is annoying.

[mrguyorama]

umm also project gotham racing games have a more serious feel to them then asphalt

[Cueil]

that's right... I was about to say the same thing, but this is the correct response... two different types of racing... wouldn't mind seeing a NFS game though... or Forza though they would have to fine tune the hell out of the controlls

[bradymaverick]

the zune hd is better im buying mine tomarow

[y2jarmy]

yeah zune rules

[TheLiltpj2468]

stfu ipod touch is like a pocket computer they don't have shit on ipod and how the fuck they put wifi on but not on xbox.

[campingatwalmart]

wao calm down is ipod paying you to be a douche?

[IzmailGlosson]

well because Xbox 360. is a whole 4 years older than the Zune HD that's why.

[dragonslug93]

yeah well they could've added wifi on their new elite

[gohilurvish]

I just asked coz Zune HD has TV out... You know, HD. It would be fun to see in front on TV and use Zune like steering

[gohilurvish]

How about PGR on TV? is it possible?

[Broeils]

Why would you want to? If you really want to play it on a big screen you should get it for a console

[xjosh360]

pgr has way better graphics 2

[linkinpark4lifeyo]

go zune!!!!!!!

[belanina05]

please do the piano app....really want to see that-----

[atan0k]

Oh yes, please do more biased reviews where you use the price as an excuse to adulterate what should be purely based on the product.

Also, good job at cutting the unskippable advertisement and loading time, which amount for over 20 seconds before ever seeing the menu screen.

Oh, and when you say "free" I believe you're not counting with the >$200 you paid to the same people that "gave" you this?

[roguemat]

So apple gave you your touch? Nice.

[atan0k]

No, because I don't have a touch.

Or any Apple product at all.

They both suck.

[zesar351]

PGR may be free but asphalt 5 has more features like more cars(i think it has 30 cars) 8 different modes. Bluetooth multi player and a full feature online multi player where u can play anybody around the world

[xjosh360]

ya but i think pgr is better cause it has more graphics and the fact that its free and the reason ppl think that asphalt has better gameplay is better beacause asphalt is way faker 2

[Didjuno]

Do i hear Trackmania on here?

(Not the sucky kind the DS has but like with desert bay and island) I F***ING Love trackmania

[cursedreject]

i hear "time trail"

[AnthonyMishima]

TWO MINUTES AND FIFTY SECONDS. IT TOOK YOU TWO MINUTES AND FIFTY MOTHERLOVING SECONDS TO SHOW US THE ACTUAL GAME! AAARRRRRRGH! This is, by far, the most useless review I have ever seen, in my whole life. What next? Maybe review a XBOX360 game and start by showing us the FULL HD install? Maybe describe dashboard? Really, man, think; show us THE GAME, and DESCRIBE THE OPTIONS WITH A VOICE-OVER. God! Watch some Classic Game Room reviews, see how it's done. Good intentions, but a waste of time.

[fire1202]

They both play like crap (autotilt... it's bloody horrible, they should have made touch buttons instead) but PGR has better graphics IMO. Dreamcast-like graphics.

Gonna wait for a year or so first before I sell my iTouch. Just bought it nearly a year ago. I don't even use iTunes LMAO. I use YamiPod. And I definitely don't play the autotilt games. Probably gonna go back to an iPod Classic (more storage!!!) or get a Zune HD (32 GB Zune HD is surprisingly cheap + Zune has better sound quality).

[lexacost]

i think the pgr is actually

really good and is free!!

[lilice1907]

hey what is that number in the upper right hand corner? i can't tell

[SmashManiac99]

Do Audiosurf Tilt next.

[marquesbrownlee]

This is my fave app next to audiotilt!

[Celeshot]

The two games are completely different. PGR is more realistic whereas Asphalt 5 looks arcadey...I like PGR a lot.

[Fro5000]

Great review! Keep up the fantastic work! :D

[dantel666]

Audiosurf review please

[xcalibur839]

Yes, do the piano app next!

Also that was cool showing the difference between the two platforms, but maybe try a side by side view or something instead of the picture in picture. :)

[pablolankenau]

Dude iPhone racing app is very different....

PGR is realistic.ish

[asianoutcast87]

Hmmmmmmm. Iphone PGR seems better in everything besides price. It has weight on the car, better graphics, better turning, etc. Hey, at least its still good and its free.

[ADeadRock]

the only good 3d app released was audiosurf and even that was a bit mediocre. stupid ass m$ should just allow 3rd party apps. the community could make apps 10x better than this

[Fro5000]

After seeing some of the stuff on iTunes made by 3rd Parties, I highly doubt it.

[darkwolfx333]

Agreed. They should allow complete third party support. However the new rendition of Audiosurf Tilt is a perfect recreation of the amazing PC game. As for PGR: FE I am very disappointed with the graphics. The Zune HD can do 47 million triangles per second, where the PSP does 33 and the new iPhone 3GS can only do 7. Very disappointing... what is wrong with you Bizarre Creations?

[51111kevin]

kool vid

[TheCombatFetus]

How is the gameplay "better"? I didn't conclude that.

[T2SEFAN]

Love the idea of comparing Zune HD apps to iPod touch apps. You should do Audio Surf Tilt next.