Meh. Our Merc had this REALLY annoying habit of warning lights after you leave the car unused for a couple of days.
We might get a Hyundai executive car in the future. Either the current top-of-the-line Sonata or whenever the next-gen Genesis sedan is out. We can always go for a Lexus if all else fails.
@maplefreak64 hyundai has just started to improve and develop and will probably catch up to a few of it's competitors or at least people will stop thinking of it as garbage just give hyundai another 5 to 10 years
@maplefreak64 I completely respect your opinion and i do think hyundai isn't quite up to standards with the japanese and german vehicles. however hyundai is just beginning to improve and while japanese car are much more improved and probably continue to improve. I was just proving a point that hyundai is starting to pay more attention. I have nothing against japanese cars because i drive one and sorry if it offended you
If there is anyone out there who thinks that hyundais are crap let me take you to a time when honda and toyota used to sell one of the crappiest cars on the market and no one wanted to buy them! Hondas and toyotas had terrible reliability and resale value. but that all changed and so will hyundai.
@southkoreaeatsdogs Shows how productive you are with your life. You actually used your "precious" life time to create an account to make Korean people look bad. It's not even bad. What you may think is "wrong" to eat dogs, it was their way to live on. I have never eaten one but it's really not much difference from eating any other animal created on the face of the planet. If you have time to do that to a specific nation, I'd first check myself out before I wreck myself. Good day to you.
Haters don't talk bullshits unless you have actually driven an Equus, it is as good as other competitors in the market. Hyundai didn't just randomly make this car, it has been developed in South Korean market for more than 10 years. It provides the same or even better qualities than other competitors with an affordable price (around 20-30k cheaper than other competitors). the top trim of Equus has 5.0V8 engine delivering 426hp
Hyundai made the equus thats great its still a hyundai and they just threw a huge engine in the front that doesnt really make the quus go very fast. This was a good attempt but theyre trying to compete in a market they cant or arent ready to they really dont even deserve to........so good try but no thanks ill keep the sclass
@doduk1000 Ignore the ignorant. They know not what they say, its clear by their word choice and their lack of real FACTS to back up their claim. Most are stuck in the first gen when they were horrible. But they've come a far way since and done quite well!
The only thing you pay for in the over priced lexus, toyota, or honda some name that really don't do much. Sure they are ok cars. But they fail to impress. I want something that will be a great value, and not kill me at the dealer. Hyundai Service has always taken good care of me for the brief times i was there for service.
I have bought my second hyundai and I say that they are great cars. I've had absolutely no problems from them. Had an Accent brand new for 5 years and i now have a used 08 sonata. I have absolutely zero doubt in my cars reliability. I am a true hyundai fan. Ignore those that just wish to insult and try to be hateful.
Screw the jap automakers I'm a VW fan but I would take a hyandai over a Toyota any day, and there's nothing that Lexus makes that is anywhere near as good as this car value wise.
Companies like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus all pay top $ to their head designers to create beautiful cars. They then release it and hyundai copies it and sells them cheap without caring about quality, originality, etc. Thats why they all break down after 50,000 miles. Bottom line, you buy a Hyundai, you're buying last year's model Mercedes. Take a close look at this equus and tell me the front end does not look like a mercedes s class
@sumimimi0 Yea thats cuz you dont know how to take care of your shit. You're basing your maintenance on a hyundia to a BMW. no cheap unleaded gas, no cheap motor oil, none that crap. If you can't afford to take care of your BMW, then you shouldnt own a BMW
@Bahzad23 actually, statistics seem to say the opposite. in general, asian automakers (including hyundai) are reliable, whereas some european automakers are having reliability issues. also, i think you're talking about Hyundai Genesis' design when you mention the resemblence to mercedes s-class. maybe you should do your research before opening your mouth. also, your point about 50,000 mile makes no sense because hyundai's warranties cover up to 100,000 km.
@BabyEater9000 And how many miles are in 100,000 km? 60,000 miles which is close to 50k as i mentioned DUMB FUCK. And yea i know asian car manufacturers are dependable.Thats why i own an Acura.But you might go ahead and do YOUR research before i catch you opening up your mouth to me like that again because Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, korean, etc are ALL asian, but that doesnt mean they're all the same.Japanese quality is better than "made in china" quality.so go drive your shitty hyundai punk
@Bahzad23 Yeah, so if "all" hyundai cars broke down at 50k mile, you still have 12k miles more that's warranted by Hyundai. What kind of car makers give 100,000km warranty? that speaks loads for their quality. Also go look up JD Power's dependability survey. Hyundai is ranked 4/5, which is higher than most on the list including Audi and BMW. I'm not saying Hyundai is the most reliable, but the truth is it IS reliable. Also, can you name major automaker from vietnam or china? Your point is moot.
@Bahzad23 This car is the red-headed stepchild of all top notch luxury car manufacturers. It's like putting rouge on a pig. Yet, some people still like it.
LOL this car costs $58,000 msrp. hahahahaa Who ever buys this shitty ass car is the dumbest person on earth. For close to $58,000 you can get your self the nicest Mercedes-Benz or BMW on earth. And you'll be riding in REAL european luxury. Not some fake ass korean built european knockoff that will break down after 50,000 miles. Seriously, its a decent car for a hyundai, BUT $58,000??? thats just ridiculous. If you gonna tell me a hyundai should cost more than a benz, then your simply retarded.
Hyundai Equus might be cars that have most vividly accomplished the crime in the car that has appeared on the market in the Imaichi place usually if it is called counterfeit goods other than the crime though it is nothing. Hyundai Equus is counterfeit goods of Mercedes sold more at a low price than genuine.
Does Hyundai have participation in some races?Do it participate in formula 1, the endurance race for 24 hours in Le Mans, Indy 500, and the any and have it developed one's skills to a high degree?
The mimicry of GDI of Mitsubishi and externals are the design appropriation of the other companies to the engine. Does any its companies be the technologies and design?
To those People who thinks all hyundai cars are shitty: Bmw founded 1916, Mercedes Benz founded 1886, Audi founded 1909, Toyota founded 1937, Nissan founded 1933, Ford founded 1903...... and Hyundai started making car in 1976,(hyundai pony) with some broken drum barrels. And now, do people find huge defect or lack of performance on hyundai's cars? I don't think so. Hyundai covered all those 30~80 years of gap. You think Samsung or Lg products are nice? It is made out of same people also!
@yu689595 yeah, i must admit that hyundai really has done a great job the last couple of years with keeping up with all different types of cars in all different types of markets, kudos to them... but on the other hand look at kia, haha i know there 2 different companies but i mean kia is going nowhere fast LOL
Hyundai Equus leaves customers more satisfied than any other large premium cars in the American market, even outdistancing luxury German brands such as BMW, Audi and Mercedes-Benz. The Equus received 904 points out of a maximum 1,000 in this year's U.S. automotive performance, execution and layout (APEAL) survey, which was published on Thursday by J.D. Power and Associates, an influential U.S. agency that conducts surveys to determine customer satisfaction levels.
@yyyy2999 LOLOLOL. DO YOU THINK HYUNDAI IS BAD? HAHAHAHA. GUESS WHO DESIGNED ALL OF HYUNDAI AND KIA'S NEWEST CARS? THE PREVIOUS HEAD OF DESIGNS FOR LAMBORGHINI AND AUDI. AHAHAHAHAH. THIS CAR HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY A LAMBO DESIGNER!
@yyyy2999 You're such a close-minded idiot. You don't know what Hyundai is. Hyundai is NOT the same as it was many years ago, when it first entered the US car industry. Most new car-buyers will NOT know the difficult history of Hyundai/Kia, they will look at a car, want it, then buy it.
@taiyozoku1 Hyundai's head of designs is Peter Shreyer, the previous head of designs for Lamborghini and Audi. It would look like an Audi. Please, you're another hater of Hyundai because you're still stuck in the past, thinking that they make low-class cars.
Lexus was mocked by Mercedes and Benz when they entered the USA's car industry. Lexus was coined "a poor man's luxury". After all these year, Lexus has grown a respectable reputation in the vehicle world. Why can't Hyundai be the same?
@taiyozoku1 Every country uses their OWN manufacturing vehicles. Obama has an Escalade/CTS limo, the Korean president has a fully loaded, secure Equus, and the Germans have their nice S-Class. The thing is, many people who own a lot of money would buy this car.
LOL This isn't a sales talk. How old are you? I've lived long enough to know that Lexus was indeed mocked, until they grew that respectable reputation. I am NOT a sales-person. I am speaking cold hard facts.
Also, its funny how you're arguing. I'm not arguing that the British SHOULD use an Equus, I'm just arguing that the Equus is a vehicle that is in the same level as the Lexus GS, Mercedes Benz S-Class, etcetc.
Many tests also ranked Equus higher above the S-Class and Lexus GS.
Most people buy new cars looking for a balance of quality, driving experience and appearance. It's how that car makes that person feel when they drive it. If people spent tens of thousands on just quality the automotive world would be boring place. I guess your justifying buying a hyundai solely because of quality since you can't accept that they slack on design by copying others on some of their models.
Terryfilming: grow up and wake up. The automotive community is full of 'losers' from top to bottom who have shook their head at hyundai's blatant plagiarism of other makes and models for years. Some of their cars 'rob' designs more the others. So,the designer you mentioned has great things under his belt. Is he asleep at the wheel now?Are You telling yourself the genesis sedan doesn't look like a benz in front and 5 series in the rear??? Are you telling yourself the equiis doesn't look like the
Wow. It looks like another copy cat. I'm shocked. No wait I am not. Hyundai makes their number by copying and selling cheap cars. Case in point.
Heres the business model: 1. Load it with bells, whistles and bullshit. 2. Do nothing edgy about the styling. The closest you get to the edge is determining how close you can mimic a more expensive car without getting sued. 3. Sell car for less money.
@ZeeSSman1978 LOL. It makes me laugh when dipshits like you say Hyundai/Kia are copycats. Guess who's head of designs at Hyundai and Kia? Peter Shreyer. The past head of designer for the Lamborghini Murcielago. Audi TT. And many other Audis and Lambos. Its losers like you who make me laugh so hard.
@TerryFilming Really want to make the hyundai fans look like trash, maybe a change in vocabulary would be in order. Don't really give much credibility when one uses low class vocabulary (cursing)
@zyxw2011 It is NOT a car for "suckers". Funny how Lexus/Toyota owners bashes Hyundai - I remember back in the 80s when Lexus was introduced in US. It was mocked by Mercedes and BMW. it was coined poor man's luxury - now Lexus closed or same category of German cars- why not Hyundai? Give it another 10 years and i bet Hyundai will do the same.
Two words: Brand. Recognition. "It looks like an S-class" should be making Hyundai designers cry, not dance around in a happy circle. You WANT to be DIFFERENT from the competition, so that people know what you're selling immediately. I sure as hell wouldn't mind being spotted in a $60,000 Hyundai that looks distinct... but a look-a-like? That's just cheap.
@scaremengaviation Actually, most people buy a car for its QUALITY and if they like it or not. The S-Class is coined as the "best lux car". So, most people would say that.
people buy an s class or a 7 series not only for the features..but also to make a statement about their success....i don't think the hyundai does that very well
I like the frontal look as well as the rear; however, the side reminds me of the Hyundai Azera....Kim Tae Hee looks cute but if you have 100 Kim Tae Hee, it's cute divided by 100.
Come on everyone. I think it's great for Hyundai to try to make a luxury car (albeit a copycat one), but there is a reason it is constantly compared to the mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc. They're known as the premium luxury cars because they ARE the premium luxury cars. It's great this Hyundai is cheaper but it'll never be an S Class. You can whine and complain about price all you want, but just cause an S is more expensive doesn't make it worse.
i might be going overbored in saying this, but i look for this car maker to make a full size SUV off of this, dont know how long it'll take, but look for one in the future or maybe the gas prices will destroy that concept for me, we'll see:)
@bondage2012- keep driving your civic and when you grow up to be a man! Open your eyes. I've had Benz's, BMW's, Audi's, Lexus, masarati and many Porsche's including the Panamera. Although they're very nice and exclusive cars, it never justified the $350 oil changes and $500 break jobs; to name a few. I traded to an Equis and I'm loving it. Free oil changes for life, 100k mile warranty, iPad 2 for a manual. When I need something done on the car, Hyundai comes to my office or home to pick it up.
@TheRockisSmokin this is intended for a laugh, and did not mean to offend so don't call me stupid.I am just saying how times change when a Hyundai cost more than a corvette even a used one that's all bro, so don't take this the wrong way.a year ago nobody would think a Hyundai would cost 60 grand so have a sense of humor and reply only when you understood the comments so grow a brain 'cause you might need it.
@keds4u Wow I would love to be in your place ole average me driving an Impala. :( I really don't see why so many people hate the Equus when they don't know much about it! I can't afford one..though.
@keds4u Wow I would love to be in your place ole average me driving an Impala. :( I really don't see why so many people hate the Equus when they don't know much about it! I can't afford one..though.
@keds4u Wow I would love to be in your place ole average me driving an Impala. :( I really don't see why so many people hate the Equus when they don't know much about it! I can't afford one..though.
@keds4u i believe it... and you aren't lying about the maintenance charges. i had a friend with a benz and yea, it cost him exactly $500 for a break job. that's crazy. hyundai has definitely stepped their game up!
@keds4u When you have money to buy benzez, bmw's, audi's, Lexuses, Maserati's, Panamera's... you dont complain about a 350 oil change and 500 break jobs... OMFG! You bitchass liar, how did you get 20 likes?
@Ghettoescu he doesn't complain he just said it's not justifiable cos people who make money out oF their own effort don't just spend it recklessly and stupidly (like you I would say). At the end of the day, famous businessmen and investors drive very average cars
@taxxon1987 Average... no problem. But "very"? I disagree. What "famous" investor or businessman is going to be seen in the current best-selling economy sedans... the Civic... the Corolla... really?? Maybe a Prius, or Cruze Eco, or some Mercedes Blue-Tec... to show how "green" they are, but other than that you'd better have a nice, fat, list backing up your claims. There's a lot of not-famous businessmen and investors in my neighborhood and they all drive non-average cars.
@keds4u I don't believe you one bit. For one, I assume if you ad those vehicles, you could spell brake jobs correctly, and you would spell the right name of the car..
@keds4u I don't believe you one bit. For one, I assume if you had those vehicles, you could spell brake jobs correctly, and you would spell the right name of the car..
@keds4u your stats are off. Latest is 60K mile or 5 year warranty, including oil changes.....NOT FOR LIFE. However this is still really good. All else is awesome though, and seriously considering one.
@keds4u I'm gonna go ahead and stop you right there because I (and most others) can tell you're so full of BS. First off, how childish of you to assume that owning high end cars makes you a "man" as you've put it. I believe you that you've owned all those cars (aside from the panamera), but I'll bet you were "that guy" that got the 10y/o used versions for $35k and went around talking down to people who drive anything you feel is below you because you have a luxury car lol.
I was in the dealer today for my sonata maintenance and check out the Equus. WOW, that's all I can say... For 53k? It's hard to believe! The finish quality and attention to details is superb! The car is gigantic inside. EPA estimates in the sticker pretty decent too.
Sleepersown, yet you keep coming to a Equus video to say how much you think it's a bad deal to buy it! It's funny, because we have the same rationale, which is "I don't think the car is worth the price" but I don't go out there in the MB forum advertising to the world "hey buddy you can get the same quality/comfort/technology for 3x less with a more reliable Hyundai" You see the difference? Anyway I'm done discussing this, to each his own, go enjoy you MB and I wil enjoy my Hyundai... Very pro
I return because of the notice in my email telling me there was a response. I'm not on a hyundai hater campaign. I'm rather fond of them. I just spoke my opinion about the vehicles price and what you get for it. You didn't like what I had to say so you responded. As I said, this is youtube and an opinion for or against can be voiced. If you don't like what I have to say move on, or as you said " to each their own ".
BTW, that S-Class with the V12 engine costs almost 3 times what the Equus cost :-o!!!! So much for power... That's just the initial cost. Ownership in the v12 is probably 3x more expensive too! Not that Hyundai can't fix that for us, happy value owners ;-)! The new Genesis V8 (R-spec) will have smoking 429 hp of power and they promise price will keep similar. Unbelievable!
Who cares what the engine costs ? With a decent warranty it can be replaced with zero or $100 deductible ? So what's your point ? So much for power ? You make no sense. Are you 12 ? And why do you think the ownership is 3x more expensive ? Cuz you've never owned a MB and have no idea what you're talking about ? Buy your 70k NEW HYUNDAI and be happy. I don't care. You will still have spent 30-40k more for the title of " new car ". Smart move.
Sleepersown, you are right, this is not a Hyundai forum buy this is a video of a Hyundai car, which we happen to love, excuse us! Go and check the Mercedes videos to see if I have a single post there bashing their cars! Of course not. I don't hate luxury German cars, only they will never see a single cent of my money, that's for sure. It has nothing to do with hate or love or name brand prestige... it has to do with value!
Where did I bash your beloved Hyundai ? I just said IMO the price is too high for what you're getting. Where's the bashing in that ? I could care less if you bashed MB or whoever. If you " value " this car over the then by all means enjoy it. I however, do not see the " value " in paying that price for what i'm getting. I'd rather just get a sonata and customize it.
Excellent sleepersown! It's that kind of thinking that makes us, Hyundai owners or owners to be, thankful that we have not been influenced by prestige/status at the expense of thousands more. Got love the haters.
You are a hypocrite by your own logic. You speak as if Hyundai owners are an elite group of people ? It's just a car. If you're NOT influenced by prestige/status ... what are YOU really paying TENS OF THOUSANDS more for ? A car in which 95% of it's features have been done before and can be obtained for cheaper ? It's not hate, it's logics. I already said if you want to buy this car, go right ahead. I stated my opinion on what I'd do. This is not a Hyundai forum, it's youtube.
Slepeerson, I can't think of one significant feature that the Mercedes S class or BMW 7 series has that is not present in the high end model of the Equus. The Eqqus actually offers more for almost half the price! I understand some folks will never buy a Hyundai because they can never risk losing the brand status at such expensive cost. Fine! People do whatever they want with their money. To each his own. Let the luxury Hyundais for us folks who can careless about the brand and focus in real va
Let's see an equus go mid 12's @ 115+ with a hand built v12 bi-turbo engine STOCK. How's that for ONE SIGNIFICANT FEATURE. Honestly, If you want to buy this car because it's new, by all means go ahead. As you stated, to each their own. I didn't put anyone down. I just stated there are better full package cars for WAY less. Just so happens those cars actually come with prestige as a bonus.
At the end of the day, go sit in the new equus, take it for a drive. Then go sit in a 6 yr old S 600 or S65 or bmw 760 ( all of which are under if not half the price of this car ) and take them for a drive. if you'd still buy the equus over them, lol then we're not the same customer. Hence, to each their own once again.
@sleepersown you're looking at the price of car alone, but you have to consider the cost of maintenance, fuel, and insurance. you're talking S600 or S65...thoese are V12, correct? I can't imagine the cost of even a simple tune up on those engines. and will you be driving around in a V12 car when the gas price hits $6.00 a gallon?
No, i'm not looking at the price alone. I'm looking at the logical side of spending. If you can afford 70k for a car, are you really concerned with gas mileage and insurance ? As far as maintenance, there are companies that offer EXTREMELY comprehensive coverage for a few grand. lol @ $6/gal gas. Wow, if this is truly a concern, you might want to spring for a car way under 70k.
You speak about not me not considering other factors. Think about the money you'd save ( over 40k in some instances ) buying this vs one I mentioned. I'm pretty sure with that money you'd be able to put your precious tv in the back, and pay for maintenance for more than 4+ yrs. Oh and insurance ? Paid in full for the same duration. $6 gas ? Buy yourself an civic or something for a daily with the savings. So who is really looking at price alone ?
A colleague of mine has a 5 year old S with a V8 (I forget the displacement). I've ridden in it. It is a fine car but I've also driven a Hyundai Genesis and there isn't much to distinguish them. I haven't driven an Equus but I'm guessing it is just a bigger Genesis. When the 5L direct-injected V8 is released this year, I suspect it will become even harder to justify spending twice as much (or more).
Lexus stole customers from the Germans - no reason Hyundai can't do the same.
Let's be real here, the MAJORITY of people that are going to buy this car are those that can't AFFORD BRAND NEW mb's, bmw's, audi's jags etc. Those that can opt for the 70k fully optioned Equus probably will not. I'm not downing this car, I'm being realistic. Buick has stepped up like Hyundai has yet I don't see people flocking to them. The Equus will sell but, " stealing " customers from the germans is not something I see here.
Yes, that's my point - both people who buy an Equus will be people who couldn't afford an S-class but want everything they'd get in one for about half the money... Or a 750Li at about 2/3ds the money.
The closest competitor would be an Infiniti M56. But the interior isn't as nice or as roomy.
Buick has some potential, but as long as they design their suspension and handling for people on Social Security, they're not going to win over customers like me.
Negating the fact you're still comparing new vehicle to new vehicle ( which my whole point was comparing cost of vehicle vs options that give the same features for less ). I'm not sure what you mean by buick's suspension design and handling being for people on SS ? As been reported, the Equus is far from the handling of a bmw so ... I don't know what you're really going for.
Comparing new to new is the only rational way to compare them. And if you're not sure what I mean about Buick's suspension and handling, drive one and see. I never said Hyundai was the equal of BMW in handling, though BMW isn't doing so well in this department any more either. Their new steering and suspension is failing to live up to past standards - Jaguar and Audi both trump BMW these days.
But for equipped new cars for the money... The Equus has no peers.
No Gwynne66, TO YOU comparing new vs new may be the only way to compare a vehicle but, not to me. It's just a car. Who cares when it was made ? If I like it, can afford it ( cost of ownership, not just acquisition ), and it's WORTH it to me, I buy it. I never argued new vs new, this isn't a deal. It's pretty " no duh " to me. I wasn't doing that. If you choose to comment on my posts, please roll with the same debate. I got you're point long ago however, it seems you don't get mine.
If you want to compare apples and oranges, that's fine. Just don't expect too many people to agree with you for doing it.
BTW, how much does it cost to do a major service to an S600 (remember, that's not covered by warranty even if said warranty hasn't expired - which, for any car you can get for the price of an Equus, it will have by the time you need to take it in for a service)?
My guess is about $3500 in parts and labor to give it a "good going over".
LOL I never expected or wanted people to agree with me. If you chose to agree, that's fine but, I didn't post my opinion to gather followers. And like I said, I WOULD NEVER buy a used MB without a warranty for that sole reason. So it would depend on what you meant by " major service ". Was this a failed component or scheduled maintenance ?
No, I'm talking about scheduled maintenance - not covered by warranty. In a "major service" you get new plugs (and leads if needed), new water pump, maybe new oil pump(s), new belts/hoses. They'll check the tension of the timing chains (VERY labor intensive job) and a laundry-list of other minor tasks. I recently had my Jag done and it was $1400. In an A8 it costs nearly $2000. In an S65 it would likely be at least $5k.
For someone who can buy a $120k car, that isn't a lot.
Well since you're talking about scheduled maintenance. I could see it running around 3k or so. However, ONCE AGAIN, I already said that one must realize they are buying a car that was over 100k. I also said you have to pay to play. If you DON'T want to pay that much for a service, don't get the car. However, If you're like me and replace cars every 3 yrs or so, It really won't seem like that much because of the THOUSANDS you have saved over getting a new car. Get it ?
I'm not sure why but, you're still comparing new vehicle to new vehicle ( which my whole point was comparing cost of vehicle vs options that give the same features for less ). I'm not sure what you mean by buick's suspension design and handling being for people on SS ? As been reported, the Equus is far from the handling of a bmw so ... I don't know what you're really going for.
As I stated previously, if you're really not all about " brands ". Get a cpo'd car and be done with it. Same luxury, same peace of mind and with the savings, you can mod the car to an even more exclusive status. To me, it's foolish to spend that much on an unproven vehicle with a company that has NO track record in this sector. If this car was around high 40's fully optioned out like the 70k Equus, I could see people taking the risk but, 70k ? Not really.
If I'm "not all about brands", I'd buy the Equus over the others because it offers everything they do at a lower price.
Saying Hyundai is "unproven" is absurd. They're proved in the only way that matters: reliability and durability. At this point all MB and BMW are trading on is their badge. Audi makes more technologically advanced cars than both of them and if you want real luxury, you'll buy a Bentley (Yes, Audi owns them but the cars are still built in Crewe by artisans)
I'm not sure what you're actually trying to prove or point out. If you want to buy the Equus for whatever reason, do so. For the last time, my comments were only my opinion. FOR ME there's no way I'D spend 70k when I could spend 30-40k and get the same thing ( if not more ). And I say Hyundai is unproven because they have no where NEAR the time invested in this market as the big 3, nevermind imports. There's no breakthrough tech etc with the Equus so, i'll save my money and buy used.
But the point is that you *can't* get "the same thing" as an Equus for "30-40k" unless you're willing to settle for a used MB and if you're willing to settle for used, you can buy a used 2009 Genesis for 20k. The cheapest 2009 S-class I could find was $50k. The newest one for $30k I could find was a 2006 and a lot of them in that range have 100k+ miles on them.
For the price of a new Equus, you'd have to settle for a 3 year-old S-class with 50k+ miles on it.
The " same thing " for me is the space, leather/wood, and some cool electronics for pretty much the same overall cost. Granted the features aren't exact but, close enough for me. It's OBVIOUS the price points will be MUCH different for the same year vehicle. They were INITIALLY offered at different price points lol. If you can't find an S class for 30k with lower than 100k miles, you're not looking. I'm sorry but, i'm not " settling " if I get an 06 S65 for 45k vs an Equus lmao.
I searched cars-dot-com for an S-class that was <4 years old and <50k miles (i.e. still warrantied). They listed a total of 3247 S-class cars for sale. Of the 288 that were less than four years old... exactly none were for sale at "less than 30k". The cheapest was a 2009 V8 with 73k miles for $47995. Of the 275 with less than 50k... the cheapest was $58,700. The cheapest V12 car was an S600 with 41k miles for $80,000. The cheapest AMG was $120k (in white, eww!).
Ok did you know twin turbo v12's were offered in the s class since 2003 or no ? If you're searching for any W221, there's no shock why you can't find any under 30k lol. You're mistaken on the years I were referring to ( w220 ). Buying used doesn't mean buying the latest gen. It's obvious based on price what cars you'd be able to get cpo'd and extend the factory warranty and what cars you'd have to get an aftermarket one. And lol, I happen to like w221's in white ! lol.
Of course the major problem with the AMG65s is that they're undrivable without electronic aids. 728lb/ft of torque is ludicrous in a RWD road car.
And, as I keep reminding you... extending the factory warranty isn't going to help with routine service costs which, on an AMG65 are going to be epic.
Remember, they're setting their service costs based on the budget of a person who can afford to pay $120k for a car.
As I responded to your other post. No kidding MB is raping customers on servicing. Parts for MB are relatively expensive but cheaper when purchased outside of the stealership and once again then, you're not buying a kia as stated. If you're not going into it eyes wide open, expect a rude awakening. You sound like you're trying to make me aware of things I already know about. My point still stands and will still come out cheaper in overall cost of ownership.
Look, if you want to argue that driving an S600/S65 is worth the higher cost of ownership for the "prestige" you infer from it... that's one thing. But when you try to argue that the cost of ownership is actually lower than an Equus, you're just embarrassing yourself - especially when you insist on comparing a used S to a new Equus. At least compare like with like.
Assume a 50% depreciation after 5 years. That mean a used Equus will cost about $29,000.
I'm done. I don't really know why I wasted the time conversing with you. It's clear your brain is stuck on stupid and unable to comprehend the strategies at hand. Like I said a LONG time ago, spend your money how you want. I will do the same. My comments about this car have been said and I stand by them as they are MY opinion. Take it how you wanna.
Its rubbish ugly and stupid y would u take this over BMW Mercedes Audi Jaguar Lexus and rolls royce
dukeboy1998 1 month ago
It would be nice if they had the maracas to build a luxury brand.
Had the guts to be what they want to be.......
BlackDynamiteNYC 1 month ago
Meh. Our Merc had this REALLY annoying habit of warning lights after you leave the car unused for a couple of days.
We might get a Hyundai executive car in the future. Either the current top-of-the-line Sonata or whenever the next-gen Genesis sedan is out. We can always go for a Lexus if all else fails.
fire1202 1 month ago
yu689595 < 自画自賛
rexchristbalite 1 month ago
Equus logo is dum.
radudeATL 1 month ago
Hyundai is excellent in the design of an exterior and interior design.
Moreover, a price is also good.
But is not technical innovation there.
It differs from Toyota and Honda which stood up in technical development there.
The place of others is not taken but Hyundai's own directivity is required.
maplefreak64 2 months ago
@maplefreak64 hyundai has just started to improve and develop and will probably catch up to a few of it's competitors or at least people will stop thinking of it as garbage just give hyundai another 5 to 10 years
burnstylers 2 months ago
@burnstylers
Yes, obtaining trust takes time.
Moreover, while imitating the car of a foreign country, a true understanding cannot be obtained just because it pursues rationality.
I think that technical innovation and engineering original with becoming a genuine article are required.
maplefreak64 2 months ago
@maplefreak64 I completely respect your opinion and i do think hyundai isn't quite up to standards with the japanese and german vehicles. however hyundai is just beginning to improve and while japanese car are much more improved and probably continue to improve. I was just proving a point that hyundai is starting to pay more attention. I have nothing against japanese cars because i drive one and sorry if it offended you
burnstylers 2 months ago
If there is anyone out there who thinks that hyundais are crap let me take you to a time when honda and toyota used to sell one of the crappiest cars on the market and no one wanted to buy them! Hondas and toyotas had terrible reliability and resale value. but that all changed and so will hyundai.
burnstylers 2 months ago
US. Sales performance by January - October. 2011
Mercedes S = 9804 sets
Bmw 7 = 8853 sets
Lexus LS = 7558 sets
Audi A8 = 4561 (year of a new model injection)
Honday Equus = 2568 (year of a new model injection)
maplefreak64 2 months ago
0-60 6.7secs wtf? slower than sonata
Frickitt 2 months ago
hyundai sucks its korean crap
southkoreaeatsdogs 3 months ago
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WorldOfIvillis 2 months ago
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@southkoreaeatsdogs Shows how productive you are with your life. You actually used your "precious" life time to create an account to make Korean people look bad. It's not even bad. What you may think is "wrong" to eat dogs, it was their way to live on. I have never eaten one but it's really not much difference from eating any other animal created on the face of the planet. If you have time to do that to a specific nation, I'd first check myself out before I wreck myself. Good day to you.
WorldOfIvillis 2 months ago
Haters don't talk bullshits unless you have actually driven an Equus, it is as good as other competitors in the market. Hyundai didn't just randomly make this car, it has been developed in South Korean market for more than 10 years. It provides the same or even better qualities than other competitors with an affordable price (around 20-30k cheaper than other competitors). the top trim of Equus has 5.0V8 engine delivering 426hp
minhyukiii 3 months ago
This is just a half priced knock off of the mercedes s class
rtherster1 3 months ago
Hyundai made the equus thats great its still a hyundai and they just threw a huge engine in the front that doesnt really make the quus go very fast. This was a good attempt but theyre trying to compete in a market they cant or arent ready to they really dont even deserve to........so good try but no thanks ill keep the sclass
varunjaitly360 3 months ago
@doduk1000 Ignore the ignorant. They know not what they say, its clear by their word choice and their lack of real FACTS to back up their claim. Most are stuck in the first gen when they were horrible. But they've come a far way since and done quite well!
bmet2013 4 months ago
Also the warranty is 100k Miles, not KM.
bmet2013 4 months ago
The only thing you pay for in the over priced lexus, toyota, or honda some name that really don't do much. Sure they are ok cars. But they fail to impress. I want something that will be a great value, and not kill me at the dealer. Hyundai Service has always taken good care of me for the brief times i was there for service.
bmet2013 4 months ago
I have bought my second hyundai and I say that they are great cars. I've had absolutely no problems from them. Had an Accent brand new for 5 years and i now have a used 08 sonata. I have absolutely zero doubt in my cars reliability. I am a true hyundai fan. Ignore those that just wish to insult and try to be hateful.
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The company of not only Hyundai but South Korea is doing the illegal copy of the product of other companies in the world.
Therefore, I am angry.
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biyorkman 4 months ago
Screw the jap automakers I'm a VW fan but I would take a hyandai over a Toyota any day, and there's nothing that Lexus makes that is anywhere near as good as this car value wise.
Mast3rSkillz 4 months ago
Those who buy this car will remove the logo of Hyundai, and will attach Mercedes's logo.
biyorkman 4 months ago
@biyorkman for those that want to be posers.
bmet2013 4 months ago
Looks Nice but too Slow and a little too pricey for a Hyunda.
coolvideo28 5 months ago
the 2009-present Hyundai Equus/ Hyundai Centennial is assembled in
Ulsan, South Korea
Annihilator1111 5 months ago
Companies like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus all pay top $ to their head designers to create beautiful cars. They then release it and hyundai copies it and sells them cheap without caring about quality, originality, etc. Thats why they all break down after 50,000 miles. Bottom line, you buy a Hyundai, you're buying last year's model Mercedes. Take a close look at this equus and tell me the front end does not look like a mercedes s class
Bahzad23 5 months ago
@Bahzad23 WOW I HAVE BEEN DRIVING HYUNDAI CAR FOR 10 YEARS AND NO PROBLEM AND I OWN A BMW NOW AND AFTER 2 YEARS IT BROKE DOWN.
sumimimi0 5 months ago 5
@sumimimi0 Yea thats cuz you dont know how to take care of your shit. You're basing your maintenance on a hyundia to a BMW. no cheap unleaded gas, no cheap motor oil, none that crap. If you can't afford to take care of your BMW, then you shouldnt own a BMW
Bahzad23 5 months ago
@sumimimi0
Thats because its a BMW, they break down all the time. Get an Audi or Merc
stevomwa1 2 months ago
@Bahzad23 actually, statistics seem to say the opposite. in general, asian automakers (including hyundai) are reliable, whereas some european automakers are having reliability issues. also, i think you're talking about Hyundai Genesis' design when you mention the resemblence to mercedes s-class. maybe you should do your research before opening your mouth. also, your point about 50,000 mile makes no sense because hyundai's warranties cover up to 100,000 km.
BabyEater9000 5 months ago
@BabyEater9000 And how many miles are in 100,000 km? 60,000 miles which is close to 50k as i mentioned DUMB FUCK. And yea i know asian car manufacturers are dependable.Thats why i own an Acura.But you might go ahead and do YOUR research before i catch you opening up your mouth to me like that again because Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, korean, etc are ALL asian, but that doesnt mean they're all the same.Japanese quality is better than "made in china" quality.so go drive your shitty hyundai punk
Bahzad23 5 months ago
@Bahzad23 Yeah, so if "all" hyundai cars broke down at 50k mile, you still have 12k miles more that's warranted by Hyundai. What kind of car makers give 100,000km warranty? that speaks loads for their quality. Also go look up JD Power's dependability survey. Hyundai is ranked 4/5, which is higher than most on the list including Audi and BMW. I'm not saying Hyundai is the most reliable, but the truth is it IS reliable. Also, can you name major automaker from vietnam or china? Your point is moot.
BabyEater9000 4 months ago
@BabyEater9000 ok whatever. I just really hate hyundias
Bahzad23 4 months ago
@Bahzad23 This car is the red-headed stepchild of all top notch luxury car manufacturers. It's like putting rouge on a pig. Yet, some people still like it.
SanDiegoInnOut 4 months ago
LOL this car costs $58,000 msrp. hahahahaa Who ever buys this shitty ass car is the dumbest person on earth. For close to $58,000 you can get your self the nicest Mercedes-Benz or BMW on earth. And you'll be riding in REAL european luxury. Not some fake ass korean built european knockoff that will break down after 50,000 miles. Seriously, its a decent car for a hyundai, BUT $58,000??? thats just ridiculous. If you gonna tell me a hyundai should cost more than a benz, then your simply retarded.
Bahzad23 5 months ago
I need the Hyundai logo in the back gone...and with the vs 460 or vs 500
MrKylewyle 5 months ago
An English mark of "HYUNDAI" is abbreviation of "Hope You Understand Nothing's Driveable And Inexpensive".
biyorkman 5 months ago
LS460 does 0-60 6.0sec Ｅquus 6.7sec? 429ps?No big joke.
biyorkman 5 months ago
Hyundai Equus might be cars that have most vividly accomplished the crime in the car that has appeared on the market in the Imaichi place usually if it is called counterfeit goods other than the crime though it is nothing. Hyundai Equus is counterfeit goods of Mercedes sold more at a low price than genuine.
biyorkman 5 months ago
0-60 in 6.7?? thats fuckin slow!!!!
PiffStiff 6 months ago
@PiffStiff it is a fucking hyundai
IAMCHAIRWOOD 6 months ago
@PiffStiff Do you think S550 and 740 are faster than 6.7? I think Equus is much faster than your car.
dokimekimin 6 months ago
@dokimekimin S550 does 0-60 in 6.3 and the 740i does 0-60 in 5.9.... Hyundai is trash
PiffStiff 6 months ago
Does Hyundai have participation in some races?Do it participate in formula 1, the endurance race for 24 hours in Le Mans, Indy 500, and the any and have it developed one's skills to a high degree?
The mimicry of GDI of Mitsubishi and externals are the design appropriation of the other companies to the engine. Does any its companies be the technologies and design?
biyorkman 6 months ago
To those People who thinks all hyundai cars are shitty: Bmw founded 1916, Mercedes Benz founded 1886, Audi founded 1909, Toyota founded 1937, Nissan founded 1933, Ford founded 1903...... and Hyundai started making car in 1976,(hyundai pony) with some broken drum barrels. And now, do people find huge defect or lack of performance on hyundai's cars? I don't think so. Hyundai covered all those 30~80 years of gap. You think Samsung or Lg products are nice? It is made out of same people also!
yu689595 6 months ago 20
@yu689595 yeah, i must admit that hyundai really has done a great job the last couple of years with keeping up with all different types of cars in all different types of markets, kudos to them... but on the other hand look at kia, haha i know there 2 different companies but i mean kia is going nowhere fast LOL
nintendowiirocks111 4 months ago
@yu689595 Hyundai founded 1947, Tatra founded 1850
Tarsinien 3 months ago
What I'm dying to see is a LEXUS LS460 vs hyundai equus comparison test.
SANYUR 7 months ago
FUCK YOU HYUNDAI HATERS:
Hyundai Equus leaves customers more satisfied than any other large premium cars in the American market, even outdistancing luxury German brands such as BMW, Audi and Mercedes-Benz. The Equus received 904 points out of a maximum 1,000 in this year's U.S. automotive performance, execution and layout (APEAL) survey, which was published on Thursday by J.D. Power and Associates, an influential U.S. agency that conducts surveys to determine customer satisfaction levels.
jxtsful 7 months ago
one major issue though, its a hyundai
yyyy2999 7 months ago
@yyyy2999 LOLOLOL. DO YOU THINK HYUNDAI IS BAD? HAHAHAHA. GUESS WHO DESIGNED ALL OF HYUNDAI AND KIA'S NEWEST CARS? THE PREVIOUS HEAD OF DESIGNS FOR LAMBORGHINI AND AUDI. AHAHAHAHAH. THIS CAR HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY A LAMBO DESIGNER!
TerryFilming 7 months ago
@TerryFilming true but...hyundai
yyyy2999 7 months ago
@yyyy2999 You're such a close-minded idiot. You don't know what Hyundai is. Hyundai is NOT the same as it was many years ago, when it first entered the US car industry. Most new car-buyers will NOT know the difficult history of Hyundai/Kia, they will look at a car, want it, then buy it.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
@TerryFilming yo my bad my bad, but......
yyyy2999 7 months ago
@yyyy2999 Df. Are you black? lol Its another ghetto kid off the streets!
TerryFilming 7 months ago
looks like a mercedes, looks like a lexus, looks like an audi, looks like a .......
at any rate, us $60k for hyundai? gimme a break ...
taiyozoku1 7 months ago
@taiyozoku1 Hyundai's head of designs is Peter Shreyer, the previous head of designs for Lamborghini and Audi. It would look like an Audi. Please, you're another hater of Hyundai because you're still stuck in the past, thinking that they make low-class cars.
Lexus was mocked by Mercedes and Benz when they entered the USA's car industry. Lexus was coined "a poor man's luxury". After all these year, Lexus has grown a respectable reputation in the vehicle world. Why can't Hyundai be the same?
TerryFilming 7 months ago
@TerryFilming
Funny that the Koreans would always try to cover up for any Korean products by giving a SALES TALK
as if they were salespersons from its manufacturer. Think if you were not Korean, would you still dare to
make a choice of this car for the price of US $600,000? The British will buy Jaguar or Aston Martin above
all others? The Japanese will choose Lexus in any and all circumstances? The Italians Maserati?
Perhaps not ...
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TerryFilming 7 months ago
@taiyozoku1 Every country uses their OWN manufacturing vehicles. Obama has an Escalade/CTS limo, the Korean president has a fully loaded, secure Equus, and the Germans have their nice S-Class. The thing is, many people who own a lot of money would buy this car.
LOL This isn't a sales talk. How old are you? I've lived long enough to know that Lexus was indeed mocked, until they grew that respectable reputation. I am NOT a sales-person. I am speaking cold hard facts.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
Also, its funny how you're arguing. I'm not arguing that the British SHOULD use an Equus, I'm just arguing that the Equus is a vehicle that is in the same level as the Lexus GS, Mercedes Benz S-Class, etcetc.
Many tests also ranked Equus higher above the S-Class and Lexus GS.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
@TerryFilming
Just one word. Being excessively patriotic is totally absurd at any rate. I've thus far met a lot of persons from
different countries, and learnt that no nations around the world are more ethnocentric than the Koreans,
though a Korean friend of mine is so educated that he's sensible & open-minded.
In fact, he knows better not to be partial to just the Korean products as a whole. Seems like it is time
you Koreans living within your homeland should be more internationalized. ...
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taiyozoku1 7 months ago
My dad's friend came to our house with one.
Me: how much did you pay for it?
Him: about 58,000.
Me: that cheap for a Lexus LS?!
Him: It's a Hyundai
Me: Oh, Nevermind then, you have a cheap car
Him: ....
Real words spoken.
StfuMatthew18 7 months ago
Today, you hear Hyundai, you think great fuel economy. Talk about the black sheep of the bunch.
bowlofarthritus 7 months ago
@Terry
Most people buy new cars looking for a balance of quality, driving experience and appearance. It's how that car makes that person feel when they drive it. If people spent tens of thousands on just quality the automotive world would be boring place. I guess your justifying buying a hyundai solely because of quality since you can't accept that they slack on design by copying others on some of their models.
ZeeSSman1978 7 months ago
Terryfilming: grow up and wake up. The automotive community is full of 'losers' from top to bottom who have shook their head at hyundai's blatant plagiarism of other makes and models for years. Some of their cars 'rob' designs more the others. So,the designer you mentioned has great things under his belt. Is he asleep at the wheel now?Are You telling yourself the genesis sedan doesn't look like a benz in front and 5 series in the rear??? Are you telling yourself the equiis doesn't look like the
ZeeSSman1978 7 months ago
Wow. It looks like another copy cat. I'm shocked. No wait I am not. Hyundai makes their number by copying and selling cheap cars. Case in point.
Heres the business model: 1. Load it with bells, whistles and bullshit. 2. Do nothing edgy about the styling. The closest you get to the edge is determining how close you can mimic a more expensive car without getting sued. 3. Sell car for less money.
ZeeSSman1978 7 months ago
@ZeeSSman1978 LOL. It makes me laugh when dipshits like you say Hyundai/Kia are copycats. Guess who's head of designs at Hyundai and Kia? Peter Shreyer. The past head of designer for the Lamborghini Murcielago. Audi TT. And many other Audis and Lambos. Its losers like you who make me laugh so hard.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
@TerryFilming Really want to make the hyundai fans look like trash, maybe a change in vocabulary would be in order. Don't really give much credibility when one uses low class vocabulary (cursing)
bmet2013 4 months ago
luxury car for suckers.
zyxw2011 7 months ago
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@zyxw2011 It is NOT a car for "suckers". Funny how Lexus/Toyota owners bashes Hyundai - I remember back in the 80s when Lexus was introduced in US. It was mocked by Mercedes and BMW. it was coined poor man's luxury - now Lexus closed or same category of German cars- why not Hyundai? Give it another 10 years and i bet Hyundai will do the same.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
take the hyundai symbol off the back
Bearnub 7 months ago
Two words: Brand. Recognition. "It looks like an S-class" should be making Hyundai designers cry, not dance around in a happy circle. You WANT to be DIFFERENT from the competition, so that people know what you're selling immediately. I sure as hell wouldn't mind being spotted in a $60,000 Hyundai that looks distinct... but a look-a-like? That's just cheap.
scaremengaviation 7 months ago
@scaremengaviation Actually, most people buy a car for its QUALITY and if they like it or not. The S-Class is coined as the "best lux car". So, most people would say that.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
for 60000 i will go and buy the real thing...it might of been a bad idea to yell that to the guy at the auto show...
DHG1124 7 months ago
I will get the 5.0 , it sure looks a little like the maybach
Prostreetcrazy 7 months ago
looks nice, but it´s still a hyundai
Rappy700SE 7 months ago
people buy an s class or a 7 series not only for the features..but also to make a statement about their success....i don't think the hyundai does that very well
71814y 7 months ago
60grand of embarassment!
viclam 7 months ago
I like the frontal look as well as the rear; however, the side reminds me of the Hyundai Azera....Kim Tae Hee looks cute but if you have 100 Kim Tae Hee, it's cute divided by 100.
Runaholism 8 months ago
I'd buy one, but I can't even afford an Accent let a lone an Equus.
GlaciusNLV 8 months ago
can't see spending US$60000 on a Hyundai, but would like to test drive it sometime; Any proud Equus owners out there?
michaelmina 8 months ago 4
@michaelmina In my county, I've seen already three of them.
TerryFilming 7 months ago
you get 7 series size for eqqus, but i wouldn't even pay 1 series money let alone 5 series money
viclam 8 months ago
Equus sounds like Lexus Looks like a Buick. Equus is short for Useless.
uoyuoy444 9 months ago
Lmao this car is a joke. They copied the Mercedes look hands down.
orochimaruisugly 9 months ago
Hyudai think if they use the Hyudai badge no one going to buy it. So they disign a new fancier badge n people aren't going to still but it.
columbuscrewfan20 9 months ago
Come on everyone. I think it's great for Hyundai to try to make a luxury car (albeit a copycat one), but there is a reason it is constantly compared to the mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc. They're known as the premium luxury cars because they ARE the premium luxury cars. It's great this Hyundai is cheaper but it'll never be an S Class. You can whine and complain about price all you want, but just cause an S is more expensive doesn't make it worse.
TheUberPlayboy 9 months ago
Great car!
ThePaulrmcadam 9 months ago
Woah, wait.. WHERE IS THE HYUNDAI SIGN?
Anyway they did good with it.
damnfoolstoday 9 months ago
WTF THIS IS BETTER THEN A MERCEDEZ
lilaznthug510 9 months ago
"anonymous" "forgettable" Two words I don't wanna hear when thinking about purchasing a $60,000 car.
CHEETAH69 10 months ago
It really looks like a S-class...
loppar3 10 months ago
good but old style....
MrDadada2424 10 months ago
Lexus called... they want their designers back ;)
theELITEdetail 10 months ago
A Korean merc.
myjanuary151987 10 months ago
props to hyundai for stepping up their game BIG TIME
TVRnGTR 10 months ago
i might be going overbored in saying this, but i look for this car maker to make a full size SUV off of this, dont know how long it'll take, but look for one in the future or maybe the gas prices will destroy that concept for me, we'll see:)
markmarshall39 10 months ago
@bondage2012- keep driving your civic and when you grow up to be a man! Open your eyes. I've had Benz's, BMW's, Audi's, Lexus, masarati and many Porsche's including the Panamera. Although they're very nice and exclusive cars, it never justified the $350 oil changes and $500 break jobs; to name a few. I traded to an Equis and I'm loving it. Free oil changes for life, 100k mile warranty, iPad 2 for a manual. When I need something done on the car, Hyundai comes to my office or home to pick it up.
keds4u 10 months ago 27
@keds4u That was a great post and it makes lot's of sense.
3alarm247 10 months ago
@keds4u it's a maserati, a beautiful italian car. :)
struzzobox 10 months ago
@keds4u how much did you paid for it? i want to get a new car next year but $60 grand + tax is too steep.I am only going to spend about $50 grand.
Light23K 9 months ago
@Light23K buy a used corvette :P :)
TheRockisSmokin 9 months ago
@TheRockisSmokin lol...
r1gester 9 months ago
@TheRockisSmokin what is this world turning into when somebody can't afford a hyundai but could get a Corvette LOL
Light23K 9 months ago
@Light23K bro u stupid a brand new hyundai is like 60 thousand and u can get like a 2008 used corvette for 40 thousand
TheRockisSmokin 9 months ago
@TheRockisSmokin this is intended for a laugh, and did not mean to offend so don't call me stupid.I am just saying how times change when a Hyundai cost more than a corvette even a used one that's all bro, so don't take this the wrong way.a year ago nobody would think a Hyundai would cost 60 grand so have a sense of humor and reply only when you understood the comments so grow a brain 'cause you might need it.
Light23K 9 months ago
@keds4u Wow I would love to be in your place ole average me driving an Impala. :( I really don't see why so many people hate the Equus when they don't know much about it! I can't afford one..though.
bairpaws 9 months ago
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@keds4u Wow I would love to be in your place ole average me driving an Impala. :( I really don't see why so many people hate the Equus when they don't know much about it! I can't afford one..though.
bairpaws 9 months ago
@keds4u Wow I would love to be in your place ole average me driving an Impala. :( I really don't see why so many people hate the Equus when they don't know much about it! I can't afford one..though.
bairpaws 9 months ago
@keds4u i believe it... and you aren't lying about the maintenance charges. i had a friend with a benz and yea, it cost him exactly $500 for a break job. that's crazy. hyundai has definitely stepped their game up!
RTree613 9 months ago
@keds4u When you have money to buy benzez, bmw's, audi's, Lexuses, Maserati's, Panamera's... you dont complain about a 350 oil change and 500 break jobs... OMFG! You bitchass liar, how did you get 20 likes?
Ghettoescu 9 months ago
@Ghettoescu he doesn't complain he just said it's not justifiable cos people who make money out oF their own effort don't just spend it recklessly and stupidly (like you I would say). At the end of the day, famous businessmen and investors drive very average cars
taxxon1987 7 months ago
@taxxon1987 Average... no problem. But "very"? I disagree. What "famous" investor or businessman is going to be seen in the current best-selling economy sedans... the Civic... the Corolla... really?? Maybe a Prius, or Cruze Eco, or some Mercedes Blue-Tec... to show how "green" they are, but other than that you'd better have a nice, fat, list backing up your claims. There's a lot of not-famous businessmen and investors in my neighborhood and they all drive non-average cars.
scaremengaviation 7 months ago
@keds4u I don't believe you one bit. For one, I assume if you ad those vehicles, you could spell brake jobs correctly, and you would spell the right name of the car..
silasjsilence 9 months ago
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@keds4u I don't believe you one bit. For one, I assume if you had those vehicles, you could spell brake jobs correctly, and you would spell the right name of the car..
silasjsilence 9 months ago
@keds4u *brake, *Equus. If you own it, you should be able to spell it. I do agree though it's a great car.
ramiritoredux 9 months ago
@keds4u go cadillac
bmwandcadillacftw 8 months ago
@keds4u your stats are off. Latest is 60K mile or 5 year warranty, including oil changes.....NOT FOR LIFE. However this is still really good. All else is awesome though, and seriously considering one.
villavasto 8 months ago
@keds4u I'm gonna go ahead and stop you right there because I (and most others) can tell you're so full of BS. First off, how childish of you to assume that owning high end cars makes you a "man" as you've put it. I believe you that you've owned all those cars (aside from the panamera), but I'll bet you were "that guy" that got the 10y/o used versions for $35k and went around talking down to people who drive anything you feel is below you because you have a luxury car lol.
sacdude20 7 months ago
Only good thing Koreans can make is spicy instant noodles. Hyundai, give me a break.
bondage2012 10 months ago
@kingji111 my question is...just how with what kind of money hyundai pulled it off..to buy off those designers.
legitworker 11 months ago
I was in the dealer today for my sonata maintenance and check out the Equus. WOW, that's all I can say... For 53k? It's hard to believe! The finish quality and attention to details is superb! The car is gigantic inside. EPA estimates in the sticker pretty decent too.
nunjairo 11 months ago
@nunjairo lol @ quality......it's nice but not nice enough for this segment of well established flagship sedans
uberenthusiasts 11 months ago
Sleepersown, yet you keep coming to a Equus video to say how much you think it's a bad deal to buy it! It's funny, because we have the same rationale, which is "I don't think the car is worth the price" but I don't go out there in the MB forum advertising to the world "hey buddy you can get the same quality/comfort/technology for 3x less with a more reliable Hyundai" You see the difference? Anyway I'm done discussing this, to each his own, go enjoy you MB and I wil enjoy my Hyundai... Very pro
nunjairo 11 months ago
@nunjairo
I return because of the notice in my email telling me there was a response. I'm not on a hyundai hater campaign. I'm rather fond of them. I just spoke my opinion about the vehicles price and what you get for it. You didn't like what I had to say so you responded. As I said, this is youtube and an opinion for or against can be voiced. If you don't like what I have to say move on, or as you said " to each their own ".
sleepersown 11 months ago
BTW, that S-Class with the V12 engine costs almost 3 times what the Equus cost :-o!!!! So much for power... That's just the initial cost. Ownership in the v12 is probably 3x more expensive too! Not that Hyundai can't fix that for us, happy value owners ;-)! The new Genesis V8 (R-spec) will have smoking 429 hp of power and they promise price will keep similar. Unbelievable!
nunjairo 11 months ago
@nunjairo
Who cares what the engine costs ? With a decent warranty it can be replaced with zero or $100 deductible ? So what's your point ? So much for power ? You make no sense. Are you 12 ? And why do you think the ownership is 3x more expensive ? Cuz you've never owned a MB and have no idea what you're talking about ? Buy your 70k NEW HYUNDAI and be happy. I don't care. You will still have spent 30-40k more for the title of " new car ". Smart move.
sleepersown 11 months ago
Sleepersown, you are right, this is not a Hyundai forum buy this is a video of a Hyundai car, which we happen to love, excuse us! Go and check the Mercedes videos to see if I have a single post there bashing their cars! Of course not. I don't hate luxury German cars, only they will never see a single cent of my money, that's for sure. It has nothing to do with hate or love or name brand prestige... it has to do with value!
nunjairo 11 months ago
@nunjairo
Where did I bash your beloved Hyundai ? I just said IMO the price is too high for what you're getting. Where's the bashing in that ? I could care less if you bashed MB or whoever. If you " value " this car over the then by all means enjoy it. I however, do not see the " value " in paying that price for what i'm getting. I'd rather just get a sonata and customize it.
sleepersown 11 months ago
Excellent sleepersown! It's that kind of thinking that makes us, Hyundai owners or owners to be, thankful that we have not been influenced by prestige/status at the expense of thousands more. Got love the haters.
nunjairo 11 months ago
@nunjairo
You are a hypocrite by your own logic. You speak as if Hyundai owners are an elite group of people ? It's just a car. If you're NOT influenced by prestige/status ... what are YOU really paying TENS OF THOUSANDS more for ? A car in which 95% of it's features have been done before and can be obtained for cheaper ? It's not hate, it's logics. I already said if you want to buy this car, go right ahead. I stated my opinion on what I'd do. This is not a Hyundai forum, it's youtube.
sleepersown 11 months ago
Slepeerson, I can't think of one significant feature that the Mercedes S class or BMW 7 series has that is not present in the high end model of the Equus. The Eqqus actually offers more for almost half the price! I understand some folks will never buy a Hyundai because they can never risk losing the brand status at such expensive cost. Fine! People do whatever they want with their money. To each his own. Let the luxury Hyundais for us folks who can careless about the brand and focus in real va
nunjairo 11 months ago
@nunjairo
Let's see an equus go mid 12's @ 115+ with a hand built v12 bi-turbo engine STOCK. How's that for ONE SIGNIFICANT FEATURE. Honestly, If you want to buy this car because it's new, by all means go ahead. As you stated, to each their own. I didn't put anyone down. I just stated there are better full package cars for WAY less. Just so happens those cars actually come with prestige as a bonus.
sleepersown 11 months ago
@nunjairo
At the end of the day, go sit in the new equus, take it for a drive. Then go sit in a 6 yr old S 600 or S65 or bmw 760 ( all of which are under if not half the price of this car ) and take them for a drive. if you'd still buy the equus over them, lol then we're not the same customer. Hence, to each their own once again.
sleepersown 11 months ago
@sleepersown you're looking at the price of car alone, but you have to consider the cost of maintenance, fuel, and insurance. you're talking S600 or S65...thoese are V12, correct? I can't imagine the cost of even a simple tune up on those engines. and will you be driving around in a V12 car when the gas price hits $6.00 a gallon?
rowland269 11 months ago
@rowland269
No, i'm not looking at the price alone. I'm looking at the logical side of spending. If you can afford 70k for a car, are you really concerned with gas mileage and insurance ? As far as maintenance, there are companies that offer EXTREMELY comprehensive coverage for a few grand. lol @ $6/gal gas. Wow, if this is truly a concern, you might want to spring for a car way under 70k.
sleepersown 11 months ago
@rowland269
You speak about not me not considering other factors. Think about the money you'd save ( over 40k in some instances ) buying this vs one I mentioned. I'm pretty sure with that money you'd be able to put your precious tv in the back, and pay for maintenance for more than 4+ yrs. Oh and insurance ? Paid in full for the same duration. $6 gas ? Buy yourself an civic or something for a daily with the savings. So who is really looking at price alone ?
sleepersown 11 months ago
@rowland269 People who can initially afford a $200,000 S65 could care less if gas was 6 bucks....like seriously.
uberenthusiasts 11 months ago
@sleepersown
A colleague of mine has a 5 year old S with a V8 (I forget the displacement). I've ridden in it. It is a fine car but I've also driven a Hyundai Genesis and there isn't much to distinguish them. I haven't driven an Equus but I'm guessing it is just a bigger Genesis. When the 5L direct-injected V8 is released this year, I suspect it will become even harder to justify spending twice as much (or more).
Lexus stole customers from the Germans - no reason Hyundai can't do the same.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
Let's be real here, the MAJORITY of people that are going to buy this car are those that can't AFFORD BRAND NEW mb's, bmw's, audi's jags etc. Those that can opt for the 70k fully optioned Equus probably will not. I'm not downing this car, I'm being realistic. Buick has stepped up like Hyundai has yet I don't see people flocking to them. The Equus will sell but, " stealing " customers from the germans is not something I see here.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
Yes, that's my point - both people who buy an Equus will be people who couldn't afford an S-class but want everything they'd get in one for about half the money... Or a 750Li at about 2/3ds the money.
The closest competitor would be an Infiniti M56. But the interior isn't as nice or as roomy.
Buick has some potential, but as long as they design their suspension and handling for people on Social Security, they're not going to win over customers like me.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
Negating the fact you're still comparing new vehicle to new vehicle ( which my whole point was comparing cost of vehicle vs options that give the same features for less ). I'm not sure what you mean by buick's suspension design and handling being for people on SS ? As been reported, the Equus is far from the handling of a bmw so ... I don't know what you're really going for.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
Comparing new to new is the only rational way to compare them. And if you're not sure what I mean about Buick's suspension and handling, drive one and see. I never said Hyundai was the equal of BMW in handling, though BMW isn't doing so well in this department any more either. Their new steering and suspension is failing to live up to past standards - Jaguar and Audi both trump BMW these days.
But for equipped new cars for the money... The Equus has no peers.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
No Gwynne66, TO YOU comparing new vs new may be the only way to compare a vehicle but, not to me. It's just a car. Who cares when it was made ? If I like it, can afford it ( cost of ownership, not just acquisition ), and it's WORTH it to me, I buy it. I never argued new vs new, this isn't a deal. It's pretty " no duh " to me. I wasn't doing that. If you choose to comment on my posts, please roll with the same debate. I got you're point long ago however, it seems you don't get mine.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
If you want to compare apples and oranges, that's fine. Just don't expect too many people to agree with you for doing it.
BTW, how much does it cost to do a major service to an S600 (remember, that's not covered by warranty even if said warranty hasn't expired - which, for any car you can get for the price of an Equus, it will have by the time you need to take it in for a service)?
My guess is about $3500 in parts and labor to give it a "good going over".
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
LOL I never expected or wanted people to agree with me. If you chose to agree, that's fine but, I didn't post my opinion to gather followers. And like I said, I WOULD NEVER buy a used MB without a warranty for that sole reason. So it would depend on what you meant by " major service ". Was this a failed component or scheduled maintenance ?
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
No, I'm talking about scheduled maintenance - not covered by warranty. In a "major service" you get new plugs (and leads if needed), new water pump, maybe new oil pump(s), new belts/hoses. They'll check the tension of the timing chains (VERY labor intensive job) and a laundry-list of other minor tasks. I recently had my Jag done and it was $1400. In an A8 it costs nearly $2000. In an S65 it would likely be at least $5k.
For someone who can buy a $120k car, that isn't a lot.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
Well since you're talking about scheduled maintenance. I could see it running around 3k or so. However, ONCE AGAIN, I already said that one must realize they are buying a car that was over 100k. I also said you have to pay to play. If you DON'T want to pay that much for a service, don't get the car. However, If you're like me and replace cars every 3 yrs or so, It really won't seem like that much because of the THOUSANDS you have saved over getting a new car. Get it ?
sleepersown 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
I'm not sure why but, you're still comparing new vehicle to new vehicle ( which my whole point was comparing cost of vehicle vs options that give the same features for less ). I'm not sure what you mean by buick's suspension design and handling being for people on SS ? As been reported, the Equus is far from the handling of a bmw so ... I don't know what you're really going for.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
As I stated previously, if you're really not all about " brands ". Get a cpo'd car and be done with it. Same luxury, same peace of mind and with the savings, you can mod the car to an even more exclusive status. To me, it's foolish to spend that much on an unproven vehicle with a company that has NO track record in this sector. If this car was around high 40's fully optioned out like the 70k Equus, I could see people taking the risk but, 70k ? Not really.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
If I'm "not all about brands", I'd buy the Equus over the others because it offers everything they do at a lower price.
Saying Hyundai is "unproven" is absurd. They're proved in the only way that matters: reliability and durability. At this point all MB and BMW are trading on is their badge. Audi makes more technologically advanced cars than both of them and if you want real luxury, you'll buy a Bentley (Yes, Audi owns them but the cars are still built in Crewe by artisans)
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
I'm not sure what you're actually trying to prove or point out. If you want to buy the Equus for whatever reason, do so. For the last time, my comments were only my opinion. FOR ME there's no way I'D spend 70k when I could spend 30-40k and get the same thing ( if not more ). And I say Hyundai is unproven because they have no where NEAR the time invested in this market as the big 3, nevermind imports. There's no breakthrough tech etc with the Equus so, i'll save my money and buy used.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
But the point is that you *can't* get "the same thing" as an Equus for "30-40k" unless you're willing to settle for a used MB and if you're willing to settle for used, you can buy a used 2009 Genesis for 20k. The cheapest 2009 S-class I could find was $50k. The newest one for $30k I could find was a 2006 and a lot of them in that range have 100k+ miles on them.
For the price of a new Equus, you'd have to settle for a 3 year-old S-class with 50k+ miles on it.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
The " same thing " for me is the space, leather/wood, and some cool electronics for pretty much the same overall cost. Granted the features aren't exact but, close enough for me. It's OBVIOUS the price points will be MUCH different for the same year vehicle. They were INITIALLY offered at different price points lol. If you can't find an S class for 30k with lower than 100k miles, you're not looking. I'm sorry but, i'm not " settling " if I get an 06 S65 for 45k vs an Equus lmao.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
I searched cars-dot-com for an S-class that was <4 years old and <50k miles (i.e. still warrantied). They listed a total of 3247 S-class cars for sale. Of the 288 that were less than four years old... exactly none were for sale at "less than 30k". The cheapest was a 2009 V8 with 73k miles for $47995. Of the 275 with less than 50k... the cheapest was $58,700. The cheapest V12 car was an S600 with 41k miles for $80,000. The cheapest AMG was $120k (in white, eww!).
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
Ok did you know twin turbo v12's were offered in the s class since 2003 or no ? If you're searching for any W221, there's no shock why you can't find any under 30k lol. You're mistaken on the years I were referring to ( w220 ). Buying used doesn't mean buying the latest gen. It's obvious based on price what cars you'd be able to get cpo'd and extend the factory warranty and what cars you'd have to get an aftermarket one. And lol, I happen to like w221's in white ! lol.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
Of course the major problem with the AMG65s is that they're undrivable without electronic aids. 728lb/ft of torque is ludicrous in a RWD road car.
And, as I keep reminding you... extending the factory warranty isn't going to help with routine service costs which, on an AMG65 are going to be epic.
Remember, they're setting their service costs based on the budget of a person who can afford to pay $120k for a car.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
As I responded to your other post. No kidding MB is raping customers on servicing. Parts for MB are relatively expensive but cheaper when purchased outside of the stealership and once again then, you're not buying a kia as stated. If you're not going into it eyes wide open, expect a rude awakening. You sound like you're trying to make me aware of things I already know about. My point still stands and will still come out cheaper in overall cost of ownership.
sleepersown 10 months ago
@sleepersown
Look, if you want to argue that driving an S600/S65 is worth the higher cost of ownership for the "prestige" you infer from it... that's one thing. But when you try to argue that the cost of ownership is actually lower than an Equus, you're just embarrassing yourself - especially when you insist on comparing a used S to a new Equus. At least compare like with like.
Assume a 50% depreciation after 5 years. That mean a used Equus will cost about $29,000.
Gwynne66 10 months ago
@Gwynne66
I'm done. I don't really know why I wasted the time conversing with you. It's clear your brain is stuck on stupid and unable to comprehend the strategies at hand. Like I said a LONG time ago, spend your money how you want. I will do the same. My comments about this car have been said and I stand by them as they are MY opinion. Take it how you wanna.
sleepersown 10 months ago