01:15 the chicken got scared :( i can't imagine what they go through when killed for meat. That is why i try not to eat chicken ever. I am a vegetarian :)
i used a method of getting small stick and whenever my GSD agreesivly barked at children or dog... i gave her a small nip to the nose.... after 3 nips... she never barked again. some may not agree with what i did but she didnt respond to positive methods and as shes a pup now im glad i got it out of her system now instead of when shes 4 times the size when i wouldnt be able to handle her.
she now walks fine on a lead too....as long as you dont go over the top...i think any method is ok.
its so funny to hear the masses of dog trainers attack ceasers proven techniques as ineffective or the dog behavioral problems as mild. I'm sure training methods are not monolithic but to attack the 'big dogs' clearly effective techniques is a transparent way to elevate oneself.
I have been working with a dog far the last six months using positive training techniques and have made amazing progress this dog makes Cesars "Red Zone Dogs" look like pink zone pussies. Cesar has good natural body language incredible confidence with people but unfortunately he is just a chattering ape. Put 3 dog trainers or owners in a room and they will all agree on one thing. Why their techniques are the best or why their dog is the best. My dog is an idiot and so am I for rescuing him.
ceasar milan has no idea what hes doing and has no respect for dogs. people who call this guy a trainer are crazy all he is is a producer of a stressed anxiety full dog. people say that dogs do it in the wild so we should too. thats like saying i should take a hammer to my horse every time it does somthing unexeptible because they get kicked in the wild and a hammer isnt even near the force of a real horse kick. so does this make it on good training method. heck no! you would be charged by spca.
I believe that the tapping is similar to the way dominant dogs discipline those below them, and the "tskhing" is a noise that grabs the dog's attention. In this case, the trainer was telling the dog that it is NOT ok to growl, lunge, or otherwise threaten the chicken. The dog's body language became submissive after these were implemented. All trainers have different ways of training dogs, though. I lean toward positive reinforcement, but I guess different methods work best with different dogs.
I don't really think this guys tapping and hsssing is necessary. I've trained dogs at the kennel and never "hit" or 'tapped" them. You get a better result by teaching them what is unacceptable and and why the behavior is wrong. Many times fear training leads to the dog doing the behavior behind your back or causes anxiety problems.
In the wild today and for millions of years the alpha male taught the others in the pack to obey by nipping them. Ive even seen where other males have tried to mate with females in the pack and the alpha male would run over and tear into the other male. This is the way they learn, so why would us humans try to change a trait that has been used by them for millions of years? Dont critisize him for teaching to this dog what only comes naturally to it.
of course, dogs always give eachother positive reinforcement in their natural environments. "oh! good boy, roger!! you're such dog, here: have some jerky." that's a real smart thing to say. you must be an expert. good job.
What those two fail to realize is dogs are DOGS. Not wolves. They are domesticated animals created by man kind to be far less aggressive than wolves and not require pain to be trained. They are highly food motivated creatures. Food speaks. Tapping/hitting/popping um one makes them fear you and causes them to become fear biters. But, you already knew that. Being professional and all. Unlike Milan, whom I'm expecting to one day be found mauled to death by dogs he popped one too many times. Shame.
@Riy0ku agreed! this is another a prime example of ceasars lack of knowledge in dog behavior. not only is his info wrong about what the dogs shaking and wide eyes mean, but this dog is absolutely terrified of him after his so called training!!!
trembling,ears back, bulging eyes, excessive panting, pacing, turning away, low tail, jumping away, laying down on the ground when approached, ALL signals of fearful submission and trying to avert punishment.
usualy a dog (if you have treated it like a dog and not a human!) will wait to see your reaction to its killing anything, if you give it a kick or shout, it wont do it again,
but if you hunting and it kills, and you show it ur happy, it will work just for your pleasure,
problem is, ppl treat dogs lyk humans, then the dog becomes dominant and stops giving a shit about what u think, then its ur job to please the dog,
I have an outside dog that is chained up next to the gate of the chicken pen. the chickens actually come up and lay down next to him, hell they even eat his food. He is a very playful dog and has killed 1 rooster playing with it to the best guess. I did what the old farmer next door said to do.
I picked the rooster up and smacked him with it. not hard, but i yelled real loud. problem solved.
You didnt see high play drive because it was being controlled. It is like... if you had a kid with his arm back about to throw a rock at a car.... you stop them there instead of when he actually throws the rock at the car. and in any case, dont judge what you know NOTHING about ..... idiot :)
I don't like Millan either, he just does what anyone who's had dogs for long does, with the addition of snapping at the dog for little reason and hissing at them..
PS- the last time I saw a man with dogs that cowed, he'd been beating them. Millan's psychologically abusing them.
this is just my opion. i dont think anybody should hit a dog? it will make the dog more fearful when a stranger tries to pet the dog. maby not that dog. what about a largerbreed dog such a shepherd or doberman etc. i would use a lease and a collar or the noise disturbance would be fine.thanks hwy29
It does look like he is hitting the dog but I don't think he is actually 'hitting' it - I think it is supposed to be a correction like a pretend bite, to snap the dog out of its 'I must have that chicken' zone. I agree, you should definately not be hitting your dog! As you suggest, the noise disturbance method would probably be a good alternative. Ceasar is a very experienced dog trainer and knows the dog psychology behind his methods. Different dogs will have different underlying issues.
I'm sure he knows what he's doing, but on the other hand the dog doesn't look like that particular dog has a lot of prey drive in the first place? I mean, he was able to have the dog there with a dropped leash from the start. Would have been more impressive if he'd started with a dog that was dead set on eating the chicken, IMO.
I've found that pups raised with chickens don't have the killer drive. If they are allowed in with the chickens when they're young, they see the birds as part of their extended family.
Likewise, my rooster was hand raised and our poodle mutt adopted him. My rooster thinks he's a dog. He paces the fence and plays at fence fighting with the dogs.
01:15 the chicken got scared :( i can't imagine what they go through when killed for meat. That is why i try not to eat chicken ever. I am a vegetarian :)
giovannasos 1 year ago
i used a method of getting small stick and whenever my GSD agreesivly barked at children or dog... i gave her a small nip to the nose.... after 3 nips... she never barked again. some may not agree with what i did but she didnt respond to positive methods and as shes a pup now im glad i got it out of her system now instead of when shes 4 times the size when i wouldnt be able to handle her.
she now walks fine on a lead too....as long as you dont go over the top...i think any method is ok.
dalehitchy1 1 year ago 2
flabergasted haha
domejessie006 1 year ago
its so funny to hear the masses of dog trainers attack ceasers proven techniques as ineffective or the dog behavioral problems as mild. I'm sure training methods are not monolithic but to attack the 'big dogs' clearly effective techniques is a transparent way to elevate oneself.
wrldeye12 1 year ago 2
I have been working with a dog far the last six months using positive training techniques and have made amazing progress this dog makes Cesars "Red Zone Dogs" look like pink zone pussies. Cesar has good natural body language incredible confidence with people but unfortunately he is just a chattering ape. Put 3 dog trainers or owners in a room and they will all agree on one thing. Why their techniques are the best or why their dog is the best. My dog is an idiot and so am I for rescuing him.
yachtsoma 1 year ago
ceasar milan has no idea what hes doing and has no respect for dogs. people who call this guy a trainer are crazy all he is is a producer of a stressed anxiety full dog. people say that dogs do it in the wild so we should too. thats like saying i should take a hammer to my horse every time it does somthing unexeptible because they get kicked in the wild and a hammer isnt even near the force of a real horse kick. so does this make it on good training method. heck no! you would be charged by spca.
kegancolbert 1 year ago
I believe that the tapping is similar to the way dominant dogs discipline those below them, and the "tskhing" is a noise that grabs the dog's attention. In this case, the trainer was telling the dog that it is NOT ok to growl, lunge, or otherwise threaten the chicken. The dog's body language became submissive after these were implemented. All trainers have different ways of training dogs, though. I lean toward positive reinforcement, but I guess different methods work best with different dogs.
FlowingDepths 1 year ago 5
What this guy knows about dogs could be written twice on a postage stamp with room left over for some poetry.
yallatup 2 years ago
hahahahaah the chicken pooped out the egg!
bigboys1199 2 years ago
I don't really think this guys tapping and hsssing is necessary. I've trained dogs at the kennel and never "hit" or 'tapped" them. You get a better result by teaching them what is unacceptable and and why the behavior is wrong. Many times fear training leads to the dog doing the behavior behind your back or causes anxiety problems.
tkchaos2000 2 years ago
There is no excuse for hitting a dog in the head. That poor dog is petrified of him. You can see his body language - low head, ears back, tail down.
How about trying some positive reinforcement Mr Milan?
VizslaB 2 years ago
In the wild today and for millions of years the alpha male taught the others in the pack to obey by nipping them. Ive even seen where other males have tried to mate with females in the pack and the alpha male would run over and tear into the other male. This is the way they learn, so why would us humans try to change a trait that has been used by them for millions of years? Dont critisize him for teaching to this dog what only comes naturally to it.
PhoenixPhenom 2 years ago
of course, dogs always give eachother positive reinforcement in their natural environments. "oh! good boy, roger!! you're such dog, here: have some jerky." that's a real smart thing to say. you must be an expert. good job.
beerndumplings 2 years ago
What those two fail to realize is dogs are DOGS. Not wolves. They are domesticated animals created by man kind to be far less aggressive than wolves and not require pain to be trained. They are highly food motivated creatures. Food speaks. Tapping/hitting/popping um one makes them fear you and causes them to become fear biters. But, you already knew that. Being professional and all. Unlike Milan, whom I'm expecting to one day be found mauled to death by dogs he popped one too many times. Shame.
Riy0ku 2 years ago
@Riy0ku agreed! this is another a prime example of ceasars lack of knowledge in dog behavior. not only is his info wrong about what the dogs shaking and wide eyes mean, but this dog is absolutely terrified of him after his so called training!!!
trembling,ears back, bulging eyes, excessive panting, pacing, turning away, low tail, jumping away, laying down on the ground when approached, ALL signals of fearful submission and trying to avert punishment.
WolfOfShadows1986 1 year ago
I think this guy has no clue what he's talking about...
sumthinkool 2 years ago
I thought he whispered to dogs? Instead he just hits them!
FreakCitySF 2 years ago
the chickien pooped on him. of course the chicken is SCARED of the dog! lol
jasonXspike 2 years ago 6
usualy a dog (if you have treated it like a dog and not a human!) will wait to see your reaction to its killing anything, if you give it a kick or shout, it wont do it again,
but if you hunting and it kills, and you show it ur happy, it will work just for your pleasure,
problem is, ppl treat dogs lyk humans, then the dog becomes dominant and stops giving a shit about what u think, then its ur job to please the dog,
binashraf 2 years ago 3
Either smack him with it, or hang it around his neck until it's a bit stinky.
h2oteen 2 years ago 2
I have an outside dog that is chained up next to the gate of the chicken pen. the chickens actually come up and lay down next to him, hell they even eat his food. He is a very playful dog and has killed 1 rooster playing with it to the best guess. I did what the old farmer next door said to do.
I picked the rooster up and smacked him with it. not hard, but i yelled real loud. problem solved.
fun4uto99 2 years ago 4
prey drive ? its scary drive work ehhh:(
owczarekn 2 years ago
I have a lab and he loves my chickens. he protects them
ChazWeisbeck 3 years ago
I didn't see high prey drive. I have dogs with high prey drive. That chicken would have been dead the second he brought it out.
And in any case, Millan is an idiot.
CarbonNocturne 3 years ago
You didnt see high play drive because it was being controlled. It is like... if you had a kid with his arm back about to throw a rock at a car.... you stop them there instead of when he actually throws the rock at the car. and in any case, dont judge what you know NOTHING about ..... idiot :)
cloudmaka 3 years ago 2
I don't like Millan either, he just does what anyone who's had dogs for long does, with the addition of snapping at the dog for little reason and hissing at them..
PS- the last time I saw a man with dogs that cowed, he'd been beating them. Millan's psychologically abusing them.
h2oteen 2 years ago
this is just my opion. i dont think anybody should hit a dog? it will make the dog more fearful when a stranger tries to pet the dog. maby not that dog. what about a largerbreed dog such a shepherd or doberman etc. i would use a lease and a collar or the noise disturbance would be fine.thanks hwy29
hwy29 3 years ago
It does look like he is hitting the dog but I don't think he is actually 'hitting' it - I think it is supposed to be a correction like a pretend bite, to snap the dog out of its 'I must have that chicken' zone. I agree, you should definately not be hitting your dog! As you suggest, the noise disturbance method would probably be a good alternative. Ceasar is a very experienced dog trainer and knows the dog psychology behind his methods. Different dogs will have different underlying issues.
selfsufficientlife 3 years ago 14
he's like nipping him like he would be nipped at by the pack leader
ChazWeisbeck 3 years ago
I'm sure he knows what he's doing, but on the other hand the dog doesn't look like that particular dog has a lot of prey drive in the first place? I mean, he was able to have the dog there with a dropped leash from the start. Would have been more impressive if he'd started with a dog that was dead set on eating the chicken, IMO.
Amhailte 3 years ago 2
The guy is an idiot, the dog was afraid because he had beaten him/her with his hand.
And you can`t take his killer instinct.
Troja20 3 years ago
hes just scaring the dog; after 2week hes gone the dog will eat both chickens muahahahaha >)
Karletto555 3 years ago
I've found that pups raised with chickens don't have the killer drive. If they are allowed in with the chickens when they're young, they see the birds as part of their extended family.
Likewise, my rooster was hand raised and our poodle mutt adopted him. My rooster thinks he's a dog. He paces the fence and plays at fence fighting with the dogs.
Weaseldog2001 3 years ago 4