let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
Jesus was not a prophet but the Son of the Living God and he died so that all sinners can reconcilled to God and Jesus is the only way to Heaven and by accepting him has your Lord and Saviour You will be saved. He is the Prince of Peace
Qur'an 3:55 said the New Testament will be purified, and those of the followers of Jesus, such as me, the reborn apostle Peter, will triumph over you. That is beginning to happen even now.
Jesus said to his disciples to tell no one who he was, Matthew 16:20-25, which meant to tell people he was crucified, when he was not. Jesus even gives a hint that the one carrying his cross will die. Jesus is like Hermes, a trickster. I am the reborn apostle Peter, who was told by the archangel Michael to finally tell you the truth.
who cares if there is a evidence that jesus died on the cross in the socalled "Koran" ? XD...the Koran is a book writen by a man possesed by SATAN...and the return of JESUS is that day when all enemies of JESUS are sniffed away from the face of the world
thats right, every book on earth is written by humans not by god...and so the New Testament is also written by humans...but this humans wrote down their expierences they have made by hearing the true word of god spoken through JESUS CHRISTUS...in difference to this fact, the koran is a complete fiction book written by a man who never loved the living god...why didnt mohammed just become jew or better chistian? why to write a fictionary book instead reading the book inspired by the living word??
@xxxGalgenvogelxxx FIRST OF ALL YOU DONT MAKE ANY SENSE IDIOT. NOW TO SHUT YOU UP THE QURAN IS NOT WRITTEN BY A PERSON IT IS GOD GIVEN YOUR BIBLE IS EVEN BEING ALTERED AS WE SPEAK SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD A NEW VERSION IS BEING MADE WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS AND YOU CALL THAT GOD GIVEN WHEN IT WAS FIRST MADE OVER 2THOUSAND YEARS AGO AND IS BEING CHANGED RIGHT NOW SO WHATS GOING TO BE ORIGINAL ABOUT IT NOTHING. THE QURAN SPEAKS OF ATOMS AND THE UNIVERSE AND THE BIG BANG WHICH WERENT DISCOVERED THEN
@SOJAHSAID a trinity in a trinty of trinities is found in genesis 1:1 gods fingerprint is a trinity..say what islam..there is no trinity...fyah is gonna bunnnnn that false angel gabriel satan acting like a shining light. an angel can only confirm what is written not rewrite and change it JAH is perfect now yesterday and tommorow he doesnt change only a fool would think God would change
Dr Muhammad Asad (the most Qualified & unbiased Suni Quran translator) writes in comments about verse 4:157-158 as follow:
Nowhere in the Qur'an is there any warrant for the popular belief that God has "taken up" Jesus bodily, in his lifetime, into heaven. The expression "God exalted him unto Himself (Rafa)" in the above verse denotes the elevation of Jesus to the realm of God's special grace - a blessing in which al prophets partake
When a delegation of 60 men frm Christian people of Najran came to the Prophet (S), their chief priest discused with him the status of Jesus & asked him as to who Jesus' father was.
Prophet said: 'Do you not know tht a son resembles his father?' They replied: 'Yes'. He said: A lastum ta'lamuna anna rabbana la yamutu wa anna Isa ata 'alaihi-l-fana', i.e., Do you not know that our Lord lives for ever while Jesus perished."
(Asbab an-nuzul, by Imam Abu-l-Hasan Neshapur, publishd in Egypt,p.53
Professor Mahmud Shaltut, Grand Mufti-Egypt & Past Rector of Azhar University has said in Fatwa:
That according to Quran, Jesus survived death on CROSS but in later life he was died naturally & the Hadiths abt Ascend/Descend were narrated by two hypocrites "Wahab bin Munnabba" & "Ba'ab Akbar".
These liar Munafik Mullas hv attached this Quranic truth to Filthy Qadianis in order to escape from truth & to support Christians' & Jewish fable
To escape from TRUTH of Quran, Authentic Hadiths, & Authentic History which clearly prove that Eisa thu survived death on cross as is in Quran WA MA SALABU (NOT DIED ON CROSS) but later he lived a long life & has already been died. But our majority of stupid Mullas escape from this truth by saying that this is believe of Silly Qadianis/Ahmadis/Lahori Ahmadis. They have wrongly attached this truth to Qadianis which is not True at all.
Pls. Search a page "PZSDFTP" in GOOGLE and read truth.
In this video Harun Yahya has deliberately extrapolated/twisted the actual meaning of Verses of Quran in order to strengthen the fiction of Roman Pagans, which is so BIG CRIME that he can lose his all other GOOD deeds near Allah Al-Adal who is all knowing & knows even what hidden in our hearts. This fiction of ascend of Eisa PBUH entered in Islam thru early Christian Converts & then entered in Hadith Books and later Ignorant Muslim Scholars started to spread this fiction among Muslims
We do recognise great services of Brother Harun Yahya for Islam but on this subject, this great Mujahid of Islam has slipped to ditch badly. His videos in which he has tried to prove that Jesus was ascended alive & will descend again is 100% absurdity & falsehood. He has walked on the crutches of False hadiths said by Munafiks & not by our Beloved Prophet. Also he has committed a BIG CRIME that he has crudely twisted the meaning of Noble Quran to justify his fiction as many Stupid Mullas do
please tell every god out there he can either suck my ass daily or burn in hell forever . i love him so much i gave him a choice. your welcome peace luv yas
yeah and i love him so much i gave him two shitty choices too. its up to him. ive given him free will to decide between two choices.just as he gave me.its only fair.
dude shape up Hes the one and only God. and you have a choice to live forever for having faith in him or your useless to him and you burn for eternity. seriously
So much truth, if only it wasn't mixed with just enough lies to throw you off the path. Blood must be shed for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus died for your sins and mine. Choose Jesus, all else is death.
Perhaps for now like when we were little children and our parents told us things that we could not comprehend. I do not know about you but I have grown up and now understand the rules of my earthly father's house I will likewise learn to understand the mind of my G-d.
Jo. smith originally wrote someting about horses being in ancient america, now we know that there were no horses native prior to the spanish releasing them afew hundred years ago. The morman church quietly removed it from thier book. Cults typically quietly remove false doctrine, and press on with thier agenda. The word was unbroken and complete, and still men added and took away from its purity Rev.22:vs 18,19 God will take away his name from the book of life, and add the plagues written in it
true. However the catholic christians are not much better. Once given evidence they choose to deny it without any arguments until they have to. For example the catholic church agreed that earth MAY be rotating around the sun and not reversed only decades ago.
you said it, I'd say 90 to 96% of the 3000 denominations of the church are flawed to one degree or another, the catholics lead the way with thier pagan roots. I've seen footage of john paul 2 takeing the mark of shevia on his forhead, kissing the koran, and allowing buddists to put a budda in place of the cross in an effort to unite all beliefs. Truely the road to destruction is wide and only a few will enter by the narrow gate. The UN is activly persueing a 1 world religion, under the pope.
I wish it could happen. However people are way too ignorant and even if we managed to convert everyone into one religion eventually some attention whore would hear voices in his head and we would be back on square one.
Remember, Joseph Smith said that aLL the religons were wrong, all the professors were corupt, and all the sects were an abomination. The Mormon church claims to be the only true church in exsistence. Therefore the Billions of non-LDS need to test it to find out if this claim is true. If not than all of mormonism falls. The Bible, being the oldest and most historic will be the judge of mormonism. Its not what the heart says its Facts and Logic and Faith together.
doesn't all dogmas exept islam also state that everyone else is wrong about everything? Well, christians are not very open about it, but when you think about it the new testament speaks against the old testament.
Well. The old testament states that if you find a village/town/settlement/whatever that preaches another god you must murder the men, women and children in the village and burn it to the ground. The new testament states "You shall not kill". I find it relatively hard to do both at the same time.
Thats pretty funny...lol, God did have people such as King Saul wipe out idolturous kingdoms. God has always warned against worshipping false gods and idols. Luckily for us Jesus died on the cross so we didn't have too. Jesus came to fulfill the law, remember.
"Saul went to war and won against the Amalekites, but only killed all the babies, women, children, poor quality livestock and men, leaving alive the king and best livestock." After this god regrets making him king for leaving the king alive, so Saul kills the king. - wikipedia. Is this someone you are cheering for? I believe that would be classified as evil, if anything. If Jesus died on the cross for us christians may well honor him by not sinning as much as they always do.
To Angela wwjd I hope you did not think that I was tring to sound superior to you or contrdicting your beliefs, I just wish All could see the truth and proof that is kept hidden by modern classrooms today. They know that if this truth is made public, they will be looking for ajob. You seem like a sweet girl, and I hope I didnt offend You in anyway.
I feel a point needs to be made, reffering to this video. many reffer to "God" by many titles (Lord, Jehova, etc) the pretext of this vid says, ugh (allah) Does anyone know that the most High has a Name? and that he wants us to know his name? and use it Reverently) when we call out to him? simply calling "the LORD"(an english title meaning master, or protector) in no way will enable us to address the one who bears the name above all names. Please tell me that someone knows His Sacred name.
Much can be learned from godly men, but none ever come close to the word itself, under the guidence of the Holy Sprit. Martin Luthor, a tortured soul brought us light after darkness, and was the root cause of an anti-semitic germany that murdered millions. I have never read a creed, confessions, or catichysims, author that should supercede Holy Scripture. Context is everything, and man-made doctrine is dangerious, most often leading to destruction.
There are many interpretations of scripture and one cannot know the whole of them. I respect Luther I am a Jew and I realize that his writings were cited by Hitler as inspiration. I go back to the original languages and I find the doctrines that I teach. Translation from Hebrew is not simply a one to one perfect match up. I translated two words into forty-two I find all these given in the Holy Bible. I have not made them. I also respect human frailty and pray that Martin's soul be forgiven.
I am the blood of Abraham. I am a literal Son of Levi Kohath Amram and Aaron. I trace myself 147 Generations to our first parents Adam and Eve. One cannot become a Jew in the Mormon Church It is blood. I am also A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Both are True I entered this life under one covenant I learned that it had been fulfilled I was passed to the current covenant and hope in Christ to be raised at the last day.
You do know that mormon doctorine teaches that when you get babtized in the mormon church your blood changes to jewish blood right? If your so well versed in doctorine, explain how every prophet in the LDS church has such different beliefs. I have not found two mormons that have the same belief. Where is the foundation? I would rather burn in hell than be eternally pregnant by some adulterous so called god in some eternal orgy.
You are right about the blood doctrine. Except that it is Tribal and Most Mormons are Joseph of Egyiptites. That is Ephraim and Manasseh. I am Levitical. It is also not mandatory that we wed more than one wife in The Temple. It is now monogamy that is practiced. Those that claim Joseph was a prophet and still practice Plural Marriages are not of God and Not of His Church. There is no proof from the scripture that God has more than one wife.
And If you'd rather I bid you an everlasting goodbye.
Monogomy is practiced during life but when you get married in the temple you have dead women sealed to you so that you can call them from the grave to help spawn your spirit babies. Jesus said that there would be no marriage nor given in marriage in heaven. The only wedding banquet will be the one between us and Christ.
Have you ever been a Mormon or Been to the Temple? It is true that some are sealed to dead wives in the temple. This is only done after the Lord has revealed that it should be so. Not all dead girls are fair game. Some will be resurrected and married during Christ's Thousand Year Reign. And it stands to reason that if more Ladies will gain the Kingdom then men Polygynous families would be needed. Not in every generation but in a few wishing to shoulder the burden. I don't see your issue.
I have a hard time understanding that you can be a Jew and know how carefully scripture is preserved and at the same time pick up a religion that changes so dramatically with every prophet. Have you read The Journal of Discourses, Book of Mormon, and Doctorine and Covenants? If so, how can you not see the difference in Spirit and Intelligence that these books have from the Bible? I believe that you truly love God and I commend you to him. May your eyes be opened when your in your studies.
You do not know Judah very well if you think that are doctrines come solely from the Bible. We have Oral Torah and Talmud and endless interpreters more than anyone needs. There is much in Mormonism that needed no adjustment. I think that you will not argue that the Biblical text witnesses Yeshua. Or would you have me deny that to and exalt The New Testament only and call God a liar? He is my God and he has spoken to me of the truth of the work that I defend he is my father and Jesus my Brother.
I am aware that Jesus was mentioned in the old testament many times. Have you truly studied mormon doctorine? What books do you consider doctorine or what prophets so you believe are the voice of God?
Consider what the word says, We were chosen to be with him before the earth was created, its called "Election" I constantly wonder why I Love the father so fully, and his word humbles me and instills devotion, reverence, and Awe, and has so litte effect on the majority of men. I know that I am a "called out" servant of the Most High. I assume, god has blinded many to His Revalation. of course I cant say for sure, for no man knows his thoughts and ways.
and man can know his ways and thoughts just not fully until they become like him more and more
"The nature of God's word is that whosoever readeth it...it will begin immediately to make him every day better and better, till he be grown into a perfect man."
Even like your Father in Heavan is a perfect man else why should we call him father
If you are not his son partake not of the fullness but if you are put on the divine nature fully and become God
Is what you're saying Biblical? it doesnt sound that way. ONLY at GLORIFICATION will we know Gods ways. As it stands now " His ways are NOT our ways, His thoughts are not ours. I could never presume on the Fathers ways as you do, but as ive said many times, I think you have made a God to suit your felt needs... but this babble is unending, so like it or not, mohemmad was a false prophet, Messiah is the only way to the father, and all the rest is vanity. I leave you the last word, sabboth is here
The Quote is from William Tyndale a Martyr that died to give us the Bible in English He was the first Englishman in centuries to read the original tongues. Yes I admit and know that Moschiah is the only means of salvation. Hippolytus The Ante-Nicean father wrote:
...For the Deity, (by condescension) does not diminish aught of the digjnity of His
divine perfection; having MADE THEE EVEN GOD unto his glory!" I am discontent with mere salvation
funny how this chat shifted from the islamic lie asserted by this clip, to christians expounding on thier(OWN)theology. Anyone care to discuss islamic threat, without expounding on how (your self created god) personally reveled himself to u?
Who are you to judge what is true and what is false? If you even concider saying that you know you are a fool. To believe in something, that's a completely diffrent thing. However, there are several right wing christian book burning muppets out there if you want to discuss the islamic "threat".
If this was not so you would not feel offense. What is this higher law that you expect the world to know? What is right and wrong is not a construct of man it is hard wired into them else how could we feel? No piece of legislation or etiquette not grounded in the universal law is ever felt. It is a law that all who are ever offended by anything truly believe in or they would not make excuses for breaking it or demand that any keep it?
Messiah said constantly "I TELL YOU THE TRUTH" He IS the TRUTH! The WAY, and the LIFE! islam denies him, so I deny islam, and anyone who says otherwise. Few will find his truth, and most have and will continue to invent thier own man-made theolgy, which is constructed to suit thier own desires. I am intolerant to anything or anyones beliefs, who deny the word. always im included with christians who have fabricated thier own diety, I deny them as well. the human heart is decietful, and depraved.
Do not disparage other faiths that have similar tenants as your own. I tell you now that I do not have faith in the religion of Islam as pertaining to the power to save. This power is reserved only to the King Messiah who has and will come. I deny not the word and I welcome correction I at the current time disagree with your stance. Slander and hate are no way to win souls for Christ you forget that Paul told us that God accepts even ignorant and incomplete sacrifices we know what we worship....
Scripture says to not even let the names of other gods come out of our lips! islam has only demonic inspired power. perhaps you are being a lil too, all enclusive. As far as desparaging other beliefs, Yes! you only encourage them to hold more steadfast to thier pagen roots when you stress similar tenants, those were stolen, and twisted to suit the desires of men, they in NO WAY have ANY Truth in them. You are doing them a disservice when you lend creedence to islam, you deminish n discredit YHVH
I have brought many to the light of the Son of God and his father through the Quran the Hindu Scriptures the various books of the dead. People have needs of a spiritual nature you are not to convince them that they are wrong about what they believe but about what they are right about. Or would you have us throw the old testament out too? It is a Jewish book and according to Intolerants and their false God of Cannon and its Father the firstborn of Satan wanted to trash my scriptures.
I doubt your words. You are not effective in making a case for your positions. With respects, Yous posts seem random and unrelated, as does the koran. If you are bringing many to the truth of the diety of yeshewa, then more power to you, but I dont know how its possible using the demonic hindu verses. I cant prove that you are a liar, here on this venue, But Im sure in my heart that at the least, you are under a satanic delusion. Reincarnation? A pantheon of gods? these beliefs create misery.
Hinduism is not demonic. They have a pattern of Gods that come down to earth for the good of mankind they call them incarnates or avatars. I show them through their own gods that Jesus is what they were looking for all the time. The Hindu Verses are corruptions of the things that were studied by the wise men of the east and in their roots are not evil in anyway. The Scriptures are for all and there have been prophets even among the Gentiles Balaam for instance. Misery no hope but misplaced.
they don't deny him as much as you would like probably. To be perfectly honest Jesus could have lied just as much as Muhammed. Nobody knows and if you think you know the truth from reading a dusty old book written by men who hungered for power and control you must be blind, my friend.
the only liar's in this discussion are you, the koran, and ALL the untruths you all are professing. Your bible being dusty may be part or all of your problem. As far as the power n control, All (New Covenant Saints)but one were martyrs, They achieved neither, but thier truth endures forever. Your incinuations are falling on deaf ears, "they dont deny him as much as you (I) would like" they deny him as messiah, him crucified, his resurrection, and His return in Glory. what similitaries are left?
I admit that power hungry tyrants have corrupted parts of the word of God and removed large portions of it or replaced it with their own I do agree with you. I find that even behind this the truth can be found some things remain unstained and much can be learned from the lies about the original nature of things. I am not controlled I have been thrown out of many churches and many houses of worship. I know what I know I will teach I fear not neither am I under the hand of any man I obey only God
The great Isaiah scroll is dated between 350bc and 150 bc the same that Jesus Christ would have had access to. Jesus Christ himself quoted scripture, such as Genisis and Psalms. He also taught it in the Temple.
Isaiah was my prophet before he was any Gentile's Prophet. I affirm that The Cannon does contain the word of God but even the cannon itself admits to losing Scripture book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21: 14) book of Jasher (Josh. 10: 13; 2 Sam. 1: 18) (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29: 29; 2 Chr. 9: 29); prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9: 29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9: 29; 2 Chr. 12: 15; 2 Chr. 13: 22) to name a few
What about common sense and all evidence? It seems clear to me that there IS NO GOD. And if there is, he's a cruel, sadistic being, which can of course be seen by his followers who were created in his image.
I watched this video. It was slander and Conjecture. Did you even read the post that you responded to?
the cannon itself admits to losing Scripture
(2 Chr. 9: 29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9: 29; 2 Chr. 12: 15; 2 Chr. 13: 22) 29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?
I believe that everything that is included and excluded from the Bible at this point in time is by the perfect will of God. Other ancient sources can be used for information but not intended as scripture.
JOHN 10 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
PSALM 82 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
ROMANS 8 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. It is not my theology but that of him that sent me.
a fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer, I'm forbidden to call you a fool, and im not, but you seem to have come to your own conclusions and still you ask more questions? say what you will, I cant continue to play your dishonest lil game. If you were honestly looking for an answer, look to the Holy Scriptures, not u tubians
I will dispense with questions as I have answers that you would find in the holy text if you would just shift the dogma aside and place it next to what the text has to say in the original languages.
I meant many will try, few will find the kingdom. I will never utter the name any other gods name, and I will NEVER use mohammeds demon inspired religion as a path to the Kingdom, and Never cast pearls before swine, least they trample them and turn and attack me.
The Pearls before swine doctrine is a brotherhood doctrine. You might hear that the unworthy that drinks of the blood of Christ and eats of His flesh drinks damnation unto his soul.
The non-member is not to be given the holy communion or the higher doctrines that may confuse or scare them away from the Church This is what is meant.
I have taken the communion, and I would be concidered a swine by that metaphor. I did it to see if there would actually be any kind of divine preasence. I have to admit that I didn't really believe that there would be, but I was right.
If you did not believe you are not damned those that are damned by the holy emblems are only those that have actual faith if it was merely a test you may yet in the doctrine be saved. It is not binding on men in this life to be Baptized we Lds have a procedure to bind the oaths and covanants that you missed in life or those that you took not seriously You can be saved from a life of indifference after death.
to be perfectly honest I don't think there's anything I need to be saved from. I don't believe in eternal hellfire, and I see it as a childish threat from the church part to keep the power they still have left. I'm just trying to live my life as good as I can because I don't want to be remembered as a prick.
Mark 14:44 Messiah said to the high priests "I AM" He was more than a prophet, He was/is God! It Angers me that islam tried to rewrite the truth 600 yrs later
Islam tried to find the truth or at the very least peace. It does not win the souls of the Allahites to be angry at them. Try to win them over to Jesus he said himself in John 13 34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. make them Disciples in love not anger.
ultimatly, God alone brings his elect unto Him. His word has reached most and falls on deaf ears. as far as witnessing, according to Paul, if they dont recieve the truth, dust off your feet and move on. I wish it were different but I see few who really will ever accept Messiah and islam angers me, not its people
You Say that Few will accept Jesus! True but the religion of Islam has many of our same points of Faith God in Heavan A Final Judgement
They In The Quran Accept Jesus As Al-Messiah But we know that they do not know what they mean by it Peter tells us By which also he (Jesus) went and preached unto the spirits in prison; The Prison of False Doctrine Do not Give up on another soul would you rather Jesus had Given Up on you?
Islam plagerized some of the scripyures and then went on to deney, change and insert many lies. Paul said that if anyone preaches any doctrine other than the one they preached, let him be eternally cursed. I believe that sums it up. the whole gospel matters, all others are cursed. islams words deny everything. words stolen mean nothing, they are truly night(moon) n Day
You speak of Islam As It were a Person. Can an entity be malicious? Can an Ideology deliberately build up lies? The people who founded and organized the doctrines of Islam were just error prone people. I have heard some Christians preach not what Jesus and the Apostles taught. He was teaching in your verse 2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: Is a Muslim your brother in Christ
I exist don't I? Truth is truth and all people should find it you can find truth in many ways. I have mine and you have yours, My method is Theology yours reason and fact. My Theology Is all encompassing It includes Fact and Reason and all other things. It is saturated in my willingness and ability to reach for the incomprehensible, the unexplained, the undiscovered, and the unproven.
This guy speaks of god and Jesus as if they undoubtly existed, and that's what I hate about this video. :\ How come christians can believe all this with almost no record of it actually taking place?
You do Know that Harun Yahya Is a Muslim don't you? It is not Just the Christians it is Islam and pre-Rabbinic Judaism too. So if you attack one of us you attack us all.
Why do you waste your time If you think that it is fiction? Facts are given in this same video it goes into linguistics which is factual as Language is a science. I hold to science and facts but they are not complete. They as of yet cannot prove everything. Then with facts comes always interpretation.
I don't believe that fact can solve everything. I didn't say that. I'm just saying that science has at least accomplished something, and if a theory is wrong people go on with their lives and adopt a new one until it's also disproven. In religion however, people refuse to see that they may be wrong. They're absolutley certain of everything and think they know it all, and that's something that upsets me.
No, I have seen so many people cling to the Dogma of Scientific Theory as ardently and unmovingly as some of my fellow religionists. I would not expunge science I yield to much of what it tells me. I find that religion holds much knowledge that meets up with Science. If you would Read in The Doctrine and Covenants the whole of section 89
Well, let's assume that I can prove that the hindus are right and the christians are wrong. I can't, but let's pretend I can for just a second. A christian wouldn't accept this proof, he/she would just say that it isn't evidence enough or make up a weak spot (usually since it doesn't fit in with what the bible says).
They have many of the same values as the Christians. If you do not believe that is ok by me I tell what I know. If you have faith in any system I will not try to make you renounce it my the sword or at gunpoint. Did my Jesus do that no! You are free to hold true what light you have and I see much light in an inquisitive nature. Many would have given up posting by now.
well, christianity has borrowed a lot from hinduism, I agree. Actually christians have borrowed almost everything from other religions. I believe in my own system. When I die I just die, and I will remain dead forever. No hellfire awaits me, as well as no heaven, and that's what I believe.
You are free to think and think you know what you might well actually know.
It is my belief that I fought for man's freedom to chose his path in this life from the King of Lies and the Man with the Chain. Just Let Us Believe as we do and share with us your light because I have read in your words that you have light and it is light from a different lamp than my own.
not really. I don't believe that death has to be as complicated as many make it out to be. I believe that being born is nothing but luck, and that my preasence in this world has no meaning to it. And also, I believe that if there is a god who created me for a reason, he doesn't respect my own will.
My God respect my will and my ability to choose. This would extend to you also. In my first life as a spirit I fought a war on the side of My God to uphold Choice as belonging to man in the flesh. We even let those that did not want to be born remain in the spirit. They have chosen to torment and to tempt us. Free will is what I am commanded by my God if needed to die for. Not Just mine but that of all men.
well, it just seems that if god really cared about my opinion or my will he would let me know himself. I shouldn't have to hear it from anyone else. And if what you speak of was a deliberate choise I did I want him to show me that I have chosen it to begin with.
I have sought god in various places. I haven't found any trace of him yet, and I havn't found a single sign of his existance. If god wanted to it seems like he could appear on earth and prove to us once and for all that he does exist and that we should have no doubts. NOT in human form though, that wouldn't be good enough for me I'm afraid.
You would have to read the entire Bible to understand who God is and why he does things the way he does. Unless your filled with the holy spirit however the words may be confusing. You should read and pray for your eyes and heart to be open, this is the only way of getting the full life of the Word of God.
I have read the bible, and I think it holds a great deal of wisdom, but I don't beleve that it's entirely the word of god, if he does exist. I believe that the bible was written by men, most of with a lust for power.
I believe that I am a God, you are a God and all other Human beings are Gods. Try To find yourself and you will find God I found myself. What are you looking for in a sign?
If God our father appeared to you in his form which is human you would not believe in him, I do not understand what
because any man could be a fraud, despite if he believes that he is god or not. I would believe in him if he proved himself to be a so called "supernatural" being, as christians claim him to be. Let's face it, no man could ever create the universe or turn water into wine.
Not all Christians Claim him to be a supernatural being. I for one Do Not. He is completely natural God was a man as I am as you are. He lived a life like unto man's life. He was born he lived and he died and then he got up again still a man. His form has always been human. I was created in his image. I am a son of My God the same as all are children.
God works through natural means meaning that all his works are planned and in line with the laws of nature.
so then you can't possibly believe in the christian version of how the universe was created. Right? I mean, to shape an entire universe...without air, for that matter. That must have been quite a problem to tackle...
We could go on forever even if I convinced you that God is. You would simply ask what was before that. I am not foolish and not prideful. I tell you that my understanding is that matter has always existed it cannot be destroyed of created and when you say The Christian Version I Tell You That there is no standard version common to all Christians. I also tell you That I am a Christian and will not tell any that claim Christ their own that they are not.I helped create this universe and so did you
My own theory is that there was no beginning of the universe and there will be no end. Actually for once science is as strange as religion in this matter. However, we will see countless worlds destroyed before the last man draws his final breathe. Such is the nature of man. All this of course means that I do not believe in a god who created the world.
If you are a god, then you should be able to create anything with the power of your WORD. You should be able to breathe life into your creations. Can you do that, can you create spiritual life? If you can't do it now, you never will.
If you were once a baby and could not talk and could not walk the line of logic you lie before us is that you would never be able to talk. I am God in Embryo he is my father and I his son I will in time learn to walk on water and my words will create things but I am but an Infant God I am still learning to divide the darkness from the light and how to be the giver of grace as my father is I am in school to be a God that is what life is it is preparation for my apotheosis.
Wow, you definitely don't believe in the God of the Bible. Isaiah 43:10 One God!!! None before, none after. By the way the Isaiah scroll is the oldest ever found.
God's name "ONE" is not so straight forward as your English One from the Latin Unicus meaning solidly and indisputably one continuity.
'echadh' (אחד), means one and all This is the word used in the shema. There is none befor or after God because he was before us he will be after us and in Christ he was with us in the flesh
This Doctrine of Apotheosis is why the Orthodoxy left the Holy See I was never a part of Vatican They teach it today
I am glad you read the bible but translations lose much.
Burned alive, dead on the stake. The feeble souls are mine to take. Brimstone smell, with the stench of hell. The horror burns in their eyes. The weak little souls, there's no escape. Holy sheep are mine to take. Christian prayers fail once more. Their frail savior beaten to the ground. Drowned in a lake of fire. Burning the remains so you'll learn. Christ is dead, the two-faced liar. I'm burning his soul, in the flames. His broiling soul is just what you smell.
"Lo! streaming from the fatal tree His all atoning blood, Is this the Infinite? -- Yes, 'tis he, Prometheus, and a God! "Well might the sun in darkness hide, And veil his glories in, When God, the great Prometheus, died For man the creature's sin." The Greeks knew Christ Six Hundred Years before He Came into The world They Called Him Prometheus
Προμηθεύς or Prometheus is the Ancient Greek God who was Crucified for stealing fire from his fellow Gods to Give it to Mankind. His name means forethought and In my own world-view (which I have by some of the faith-groups/Churches that I have attended been thrown out for preaching) he is a prototype for Christ just as Moses who they accept in the same capacity was.
It is my belief that all were true at one point but corruption mostly unintentional crept in As it says in the Book of Enoch of Messiah King God. I have seven names in the seven tongues of the world and they all are King of Kings Lord of Lords and the Youth Enthroned!
jesus blessed be your name even after you created a perfect earth and we rejected you and you still came for us with love and humility and after that you died and were beaten because you loved and passionately and after that YOU STILL ALLOWED ME TO BE FORGIVEN that is love !!!! grow my faith more and more
In 1978, the LDS First Presidency "The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, Confucius, and the Reformers, as well as philosophers including Socrates, Plato, and others, received a portion of God's light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals." Mohamemd recived GOD'S Quran
Plato born in Athens died in Athens New Testament tells in ACTS 17 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill and said Ye men of Athens I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious For as I passed by and beheld your devotions I found an altar with this inscription TO THE UNKNOWN GOD Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship him declare I unto you
Epimenides The Prophet of Crete is credited with the idea of creating an altar to the unknown god six centuries (6th Century BC) prior to this on the sight of Mars Hill. If it stood in Paul's time It stood in Plato's and if you have ever read Plato's Republic Socrates and Plato and most of the other Greeks worshiped all the Gods and would not want to miss any one.
Have you ever read the Qu'ran? If this is a Christian Slander of another's
Holy Book Christ would not approve. Partly on the grounds that the Qu'ran holds much truth and to a point testify of himself. The second objection is that Jesus is symbolically the brazen serpent of Moses. Do not attack any religion because truth is in all.
there is wisdom in them all, but in them all there is also stupidity, justifying of "evil" deeds and threatening of eternal punishment. Well, save the last one for the three dogmas, but still. And yes, I have read the Koran.
I ask , What can you do about the stupidity and evil? I do not believe in the complete validity and I do believe in the human falability of even my Prophets. Some Prophets as all men can fall. This is the reason for the many faiths all true or partly true in their times I do not deny the divine origin of any but some readings are not pure because of the ignorance of the reader or tainted preconceptions. I say repel the bad with something better I think you are trying
Your wrong. He does exist and will return. You have to have faith. It's easier to believe there is no Jesus than there is. The devil tells us that Jesus doesn't exist so we wont believe in him. The Devil is the ruler on Earth, and he will do anything to make us unbelievers in Jesus & God my friend.
The devil does not exist, just in the same way that god doesn't exist. No evidence have been presented for either. No one has actually ever met the devil, just in the same way that no one has ever met god or Jesus. There is just ONE source in the roman archives which proves that there was a guy named Jesus 2000 years ago who was crucified. It doesn't say if it's THE Jesus either, so there's really no real evidence.
And when you die no one will remember you within three years of your passing and will dispute if any records you leave behind are not in fact fiction. If one needs proof of everything it tells us that the man is just a puppet of things that others tell him. I have a trust in what is largely unknown, but I know it. I would tell you and all people the
Devil is and God is for I have met them both about their works!
yes, but I havn't raised the dead, fed the hungry, had revelations from god, cured blindness(?) and so on. However, a certain christian savior did (according to the bible), and that should have made him as famous as the Beatles. And believe me, there will be a record of the Beatles in 2000 years even.
And if a man doesn't need proof for his beliefs that's what I'd call a puppet of things that others (the church etc) tells him.
I wasn't calling you the Devil Nor Was I calling you God or Likening you to one or the others. I tell you that I have seen and felt and know but he (God) has not left me with anything physical as what you would seem to feel you need. Under this I have to see with my eyes photos or videos to believe any thing at all. I have doctored photos and videos and I ask no one to believe that which is not true.
let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
reblando1 9 months ago
let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
reblando1 9 months ago
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let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
reblando1 9 months ago
let's stop arguing about Who God is... rather,,,, think about who you are now in your belief and where your soul will be after your death..... but for me and my house,,, we will serve the Lord........
reblando1 9 months ago
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TheBestEVER4LIFE 10 months ago
Jesus was not a prophet but the Son of the Living God and he died so that all sinners can reconcilled to God and Jesus is the only way to Heaven and by accepting him has your Lord and Saviour You will be saved. He is the Prince of Peace
MrJDW123 1 year ago
Qur'an 3:55 said the New Testament will be purified, and those of the followers of Jesus, such as me, the reborn apostle Peter, will triumph over you. That is beginning to happen even now.
0099wrestler 1 year ago
Jesus said to his disciples to tell no one who he was, Matthew 16:20-25, which meant to tell people he was crucified, when he was not. Jesus even gives a hint that the one carrying his cross will die. Jesus is like Hermes, a trickster. I am the reborn apostle Peter, who was told by the archangel Michael to finally tell you the truth.
0099wrestler 1 year ago
The hell w/the Koran......YESHUA (JESUS) is THE LORD.....The I am that I am.....Praise God.
lakeoffire77 2 years ago
who cares if there is a evidence that jesus died on the cross in the socalled "Koran" ? XD...the Koran is a book writen by a man possesed by SATAN...and the return of JESUS is that day when all enemies of JESUS are sniffed away from the face of the world
xxxGalgenvogelxxx 2 years ago
@xxxGalgenvogelxxx your an stupid idiot and you have no proof your own bible is hand written by men not god given and that too is proven
whitney1ish 1 year ago
thats right, every book on earth is written by humans not by god...and so the New Testament is also written by humans...but this humans wrote down their expierences they have made by hearing the true word of god spoken through JESUS CHRISTUS...in difference to this fact, the koran is a complete fiction book written by a man who never loved the living god...why didnt mohammed just become jew or better chistian? why to write a fictionary book instead reading the book inspired by the living word??
xxxGalgenvogelxxx 1 year ago
@xxxGalgenvogelxxx FIRST OF ALL YOU DONT MAKE ANY SENSE IDIOT. NOW TO SHUT YOU UP THE QURAN IS NOT WRITTEN BY A PERSON IT IS GOD GIVEN YOUR BIBLE IS EVEN BEING ALTERED AS WE SPEAK SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD A NEW VERSION IS BEING MADE WITH DIFFERENT MEANINGS AND YOU CALL THAT GOD GIVEN WHEN IT WAS FIRST MADE OVER 2THOUSAND YEARS AGO AND IS BEING CHANGED RIGHT NOW SO WHATS GOING TO BE ORIGINAL ABOUT IT NOTHING. THE QURAN SPEAKS OF ATOMS AND THE UNIVERSE AND THE BIG BANG WHICH WERENT DISCOVERED THEN
whitney1ish 1 year ago
i hope you will find to the true living god...i pray for you
xxxGalgenvogelxxx 1 year ago
I agree w/you the Koran is a book writen by a man possesed by the Devil.
lakeoffire77 1 year ago 3
GOD did not give a book to JESUS...JESUS himself is the gospel !...JESUS himself is the living word
xxxGalgenvogelxxx 2 years ago
god son and the holy ghost
226315 2 years ago
There is no god except Allah and Muhammad is a messenger of Allah
7691kenny 2 years ago
@7691kenny
Jah Ras Tafari is the God head creator
H.I.M. Haile Selassie I whose messenger is Berhane Selassie known as Bob Marley.
power and light of the trinity which fingerprint is in genesis 1:1 in the beiggining God created heaven and the earth.
SOJAHSAID 1 year ago
beginning(time) created heaven(space) and earth(matter)
time(past,present,future)space(volume,width,height) matter(solid,gas,vapor)
SOJAHSAID 1 year ago
@SOJAHSAID a trinity in a trinty of trinities is found in genesis 1:1 gods fingerprint is a trinity..say what islam..there is no trinity...fyah is gonna bunnnnn that false angel gabriel satan acting like a shining light. an angel can only confirm what is written not rewrite and change it JAH is perfect now yesterday and tommorow he doesnt change only a fool would think God would change
SOJAHSAID 1 year ago
If god is more than one this world would be destroyed .. Do you not thinking , what would happen if a ship has two captains ?
7691kenny 2 years ago
Jesus isnt just a prophet, he is the Son of God.
tyfee1 2 years ago
Religious people, including Christians, have active imaginations.
They are fundamentally dishonest with themselves and others, about supernatural claims.
They lack critical thinking skills, which tell them that magic isn't real.
And they are gullible, and less intelligent than their Atheist counterparts.
Sorry, that's what the studies show.
Keep believing in nonsense............Your personal God will bless you for it.
bigboy45454545 2 years ago
A God-less world is a "comfortable, convenient fantasy" for atheists . . .
Redface19 2 years ago
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God is an imaginary friend for adults..
Arnebananlolo 3 years ago
allah is not a god of sinners.
KingJesusforyou 3 years ago
Dr Muhammad Asad (the most Qualified & unbiased Suni Quran translator) writes in comments about verse 4:157-158 as follow:
Nowhere in the Qur'an is there any warrant for the popular belief that God has "taken up" Jesus bodily, in his lifetime, into heaven. The expression "God exalted him unto Himself (Rafa)" in the above verse denotes the elevation of Jesus to the realm of God's special grace - a blessing in which al prophets partake
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
allah is a moon god
qoran says allah can have a son
qoran says allah prays to himself.
KingJesusforyou 3 years ago
When a delegation of 60 men frm Christian people of Najran came to the Prophet (S), their chief priest discused with him the status of Jesus & asked him as to who Jesus' father was.
Prophet said: 'Do you not know tht a son resembles his father?' They replied: 'Yes'. He said: A lastum ta'lamuna anna rabbana la yamutu wa anna Isa ata 'alaihi-l-fana', i.e., Do you not know that our Lord lives for ever while Jesus perished."
(Asbab an-nuzul, by Imam Abu-l-Hasan Neshapur, publishd in Egypt,p.53
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
Professor Mahmud Shaltut, Grand Mufti-Egypt & Past Rector of Azhar University has said in Fatwa:
That according to Quran, Jesus survived death on CROSS but in later life he was died naturally & the Hadiths abt Ascend/Descend were narrated by two hypocrites "Wahab bin Munnabba" & "Ba'ab Akbar".
These liar Munafik Mullas hv attached this Quranic truth to Filthy Qadianis in order to escape from truth & to support Christians' & Jewish fable
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
To escape from TRUTH of Quran, Authentic Hadiths, & Authentic History which clearly prove that Eisa thu survived death on cross as is in Quran WA MA SALABU (NOT DIED ON CROSS) but later he lived a long life & has already been died. But our majority of stupid Mullas escape from this truth by saying that this is believe of Silly Qadianis/Ahmadis/Lahori Ahmadis. They have wrongly attached this truth to Qadianis which is not True at all.
Pls. Search a page "PZSDFTP" in GOOGLE and read truth.
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
In this video Harun Yahya has deliberately extrapolated/twisted the actual meaning of Verses of Quran in order to strengthen the fiction of Roman Pagans, which is so BIG CRIME that he can lose his all other GOOD deeds near Allah Al-Adal who is all knowing & knows even what hidden in our hearts. This fiction of ascend of Eisa PBUH entered in Islam thru early Christian Converts & then entered in Hadith Books and later Ignorant Muslim Scholars started to spread this fiction among Muslims
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
We do recognise great services of Brother Harun Yahya for Islam but on this subject, this great Mujahid of Islam has slipped to ditch badly. His videos in which he has tried to prove that Jesus was ascended alive & will descend again is 100% absurdity & falsehood. He has walked on the crutches of False hadiths said by Munafiks & not by our Beloved Prophet. Also he has committed a BIG CRIME that he has crudely twisted the meaning of Noble Quran to justify his fiction as many Stupid Mullas do
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago
ahhh im sorry for makin fun. ill smarten up. glad yous beleive in such good things thats all that matters.take care.
oddlyreasonable 3 years ago
Jesus is God
KingJesusforyou 3 years ago
please tell every god out there he can either suck my ass daily or burn in hell forever . i love him so much i gave him a choice. your welcome peace luv yas
oddlyreasonable 3 years ago
No!, God, Gave you A Choice! To repent or burn in hell forever! God, Loves you so much, That he, God gave you A choice.
Leedsboy13 3 years ago
yeah and i love him so much i gave him two shitty choices too. its up to him. ive given him free will to decide between two choices.just as he gave me.its only fair.
oddlyreasonable 3 years ago
dude shape up Hes the one and only God. and you have a choice to live forever for having faith in him or your useless to him and you burn for eternity. seriously
199191 3 years ago 4
@199191
WHY SO SRS?
danielyeh 1 year ago
The concept of God in Islam is a POWER..OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESENT...POWER
Concept of god in Christianity is a PERSON:
1) a person with mummy, daddy, uncle aunty...
2) a person who has feet (Psalm 18:9), arms (Jer 27:5), wings (Psalm 36:7), hands (Job 27:11), eyes (Deut 8:3),
3) a person who goes into WWF wrestling (Genesis 32:22).
It is up to you what you want to believe in an Islamic concept of God as Power or Judea-Christianity's mummy-daddy concept!!
lionheart1965 3 years ago
So much truth, if only it wasn't mixed with just enough lies to throw you off the path. Blood must be shed for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus died for your sins and mine. Choose Jesus, all else is death.
Yooosername 4 years ago
This Is Truth. Teach Them Out Of Their Own Books That
They Are Correct And The Holy Spirit
Will Work Upon Them. Teach Them With What They Know
Truth Is Truth You Should Love The Ignorant
And Help Them If You Can
messiahbenlevi 3 years ago
1) Another stupid concept of Christianity: Jesus DIED to cleanse sin of Christians..
2) If it is so, then all pedophile priests go to HEAVEN courtsey Mr Jesus..
3) they screwed ALTAR boys in this world and will get chance to SCREW all the YOUNG BOYS in heaven too!!!
WHAT A CONCEPT...Only Christians will believe in such a stupidity
lionheart1965 3 years ago
If the Bible says it and God willed it, then it is good and not evil. God is far beyond our comprehension.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
Perhaps for now like when we were little children and our parents told us things that we could not comprehend. I do not know about you but I have grown up and now understand the rules of my earthly father's house I will likewise learn to understand the mind of my G-d.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Jo. smith originally wrote someting about horses being in ancient america, now we know that there were no horses native prior to the spanish releasing them afew hundred years ago. The morman church quietly removed it from thier book. Cults typically quietly remove false doctrine, and press on with thier agenda. The word was unbroken and complete, and still men added and took away from its purity Rev.22:vs 18,19 God will take away his name from the book of life, and add the plagues written in it
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
true. However the catholic christians are not much better. Once given evidence they choose to deny it without any arguments until they have to. For example the catholic church agreed that earth MAY be rotating around the sun and not reversed only decades ago.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
you said it, I'd say 90 to 96% of the 3000 denominations of the church are flawed to one degree or another, the catholics lead the way with thier pagan roots. I've seen footage of john paul 2 takeing the mark of shevia on his forhead, kissing the koran, and allowing buddists to put a budda in place of the cross in an effort to unite all beliefs. Truely the road to destruction is wide and only a few will enter by the narrow gate. The UN is activly persueing a 1 world religion, under the pope.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
I wish it could happen. However people are way too ignorant and even if we managed to convert everyone into one religion eventually some attention whore would hear voices in his head and we would be back on square one.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
With one religion we would all get the mark of the beast to keep track of everyone. Hmmm...not for me!
angelawwjd 4 years ago
Remember, Joseph Smith said that aLL the religons were wrong, all the professors were corupt, and all the sects were an abomination. The Mormon church claims to be the only true church in exsistence. Therefore the Billions of non-LDS need to test it to find out if this claim is true. If not than all of mormonism falls. The Bible, being the oldest and most historic will be the judge of mormonism. Its not what the heart says its Facts and Logic and Faith together.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
doesn't all dogmas exept islam also state that everyone else is wrong about everything? Well, christians are not very open about it, but when you think about it the new testament speaks against the old testament.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Evidence?
angelawwjd 4 years ago
Well. The old testament states that if you find a village/town/settlement/whatever that preaches another god you must murder the men, women and children in the village and burn it to the ground. The new testament states "You shall not kill". I find it relatively hard to do both at the same time.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Thats pretty funny...lol, God did have people such as King Saul wipe out idolturous kingdoms. God has always warned against worshipping false gods and idols. Luckily for us Jesus died on the cross so we didn't have too. Jesus came to fulfill the law, remember.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
"Saul went to war and won against the Amalekites, but only killed all the babies, women, children, poor quality livestock and men, leaving alive the king and best livestock." After this god regrets making him king for leaving the king alive, so Saul kills the king. - wikipedia. Is this someone you are cheering for? I believe that would be classified as evil, if anything. If Jesus died on the cross for us christians may well honor him by not sinning as much as they always do.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
To Angela wwjd I hope you did not think that I was tring to sound superior to you or contrdicting your beliefs, I just wish All could see the truth and proof that is kept hidden by modern classrooms today. They know that if this truth is made public, they will be looking for ajob. You seem like a sweet girl, and I hope I didnt offend You in anyway.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
I feel a point needs to be made, reffering to this video. many reffer to "God" by many titles (Lord, Jehova, etc) the pretext of this vid says, ugh (allah) Does anyone know that the most High has a Name? and that he wants us to know his name? and use it Reverently) when we call out to him? simply calling "the LORD"(an english title meaning master, or protector) in no way will enable us to address the one who bears the name above all names. Please tell me that someone knows His Sacred name.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
Much can be learned from godly men, but none ever come close to the word itself, under the guidence of the Holy Sprit. Martin Luthor, a tortured soul brought us light after darkness, and was the root cause of an anti-semitic germany that murdered millions. I have never read a creed, confessions, or catichysims, author that should supercede Holy Scripture. Context is everything, and man-made doctrine is dangerious, most often leading to destruction.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
There are many interpretations of scripture and one cannot know the whole of them. I respect Luther I am a Jew and I realize that his writings were cited by Hitler as inspiration. I go back to the original languages and I find the doctrines that I teach. Translation from Hebrew is not simply a one to one perfect match up. I translated two words into forty-two I find all these given in the Holy Bible. I have not made them. I also respect human frailty and pray that Martin's soul be forgiven.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Were you born a Jew or became one in the mormon church?
angelawwjd 4 years ago
I am the blood of Abraham. I am a literal Son of Levi Kohath Amram and Aaron. I trace myself 147 Generations to our first parents Adam and Eve. One cannot become a Jew in the Mormon Church It is blood. I am also A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Both are True I entered this life under one covenant I learned that it had been fulfilled I was passed to the current covenant and hope in Christ to be raised at the last day.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
You do know that mormon doctorine teaches that when you get babtized in the mormon church your blood changes to jewish blood right? If your so well versed in doctorine, explain how every prophet in the LDS church has such different beliefs. I have not found two mormons that have the same belief. Where is the foundation? I would rather burn in hell than be eternally pregnant by some adulterous so called god in some eternal orgy.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
You are right about the blood doctrine. Except that it is Tribal and Most Mormons are Joseph of Egyiptites. That is Ephraim and Manasseh. I am Levitical. It is also not mandatory that we wed more than one wife in The Temple. It is now monogamy that is practiced. Those that claim Joseph was a prophet and still practice Plural Marriages are not of God and Not of His Church. There is no proof from the scripture that God has more than one wife.
And If you'd rather I bid you an everlasting goodbye.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Monogomy is practiced during life but when you get married in the temple you have dead women sealed to you so that you can call them from the grave to help spawn your spirit babies. Jesus said that there would be no marriage nor given in marriage in heaven. The only wedding banquet will be the one between us and Christ.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
Have you ever been a Mormon or Been to the Temple? It is true that some are sealed to dead wives in the temple. This is only done after the Lord has revealed that it should be so. Not all dead girls are fair game. Some will be resurrected and married during Christ's Thousand Year Reign. And it stands to reason that if more Ladies will gain the Kingdom then men Polygynous families would be needed. Not in every generation but in a few wishing to shoulder the burden. I don't see your issue.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I have a hard time understanding that you can be a Jew and know how carefully scripture is preserved and at the same time pick up a religion that changes so dramatically with every prophet. Have you read The Journal of Discourses, Book of Mormon, and Doctorine and Covenants? If so, how can you not see the difference in Spirit and Intelligence that these books have from the Bible? I believe that you truly love God and I commend you to him. May your eyes be opened when your in your studies.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
You do not know Judah very well if you think that are doctrines come solely from the Bible. We have Oral Torah and Talmud and endless interpreters more than anyone needs. There is much in Mormonism that needed no adjustment. I think that you will not argue that the Biblical text witnesses Yeshua. Or would you have me deny that to and exalt The New Testament only and call God a liar? He is my God and he has spoken to me of the truth of the work that I defend he is my father and Jesus my Brother.
ssvideosyt 4 years ago
I am aware that Jesus was mentioned in the old testament many times. Have you truly studied mormon doctorine? What books do you consider doctorine or what prophets so you believe are the voice of God?
angelawwjd 4 years ago
Consider what the word says, We were chosen to be with him before the earth was created, its called "Election" I constantly wonder why I Love the father so fully, and his word humbles me and instills devotion, reverence, and Awe, and has so litte effect on the majority of men. I know that I am a "called out" servant of the Most High. I assume, god has blinded many to His Revalation. of course I cant say for sure, for no man knows his thoughts and ways.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
You only blind yourself
and man can know his ways and thoughts just not fully until they become like him more and more
"The nature of God's word is that whosoever readeth it...it will begin immediately to make him every day better and better, till he be grown into a perfect man."
Even like your Father in Heavan is a perfect man else why should we call him father
If you are not his son partake not of the fullness but if you are put on the divine nature fully and become God
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Is what you're saying Biblical? it doesnt sound that way. ONLY at GLORIFICATION will we know Gods ways. As it stands now " His ways are NOT our ways, His thoughts are not ours. I could never presume on the Fathers ways as you do, but as ive said many times, I think you have made a God to suit your felt needs... but this babble is unending, so like it or not, mohemmad was a false prophet, Messiah is the only way to the father, and all the rest is vanity. I leave you the last word, sabboth is here
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
The Quote is from William Tyndale a Martyr that died to give us the Bible in English He was the first Englishman in centuries to read the original tongues. Yes I admit and know that Moschiah is the only means of salvation. Hippolytus The Ante-Nicean father wrote:
...For the Deity, (by condescension) does not diminish aught of the digjnity of His
divine perfection; having MADE THEE EVEN GOD unto his glory!" I am discontent with mere salvation
Eternal life is to be God in Dad's house.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
There is no historical evidence to support any scripture other than the Bible.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
funny how this chat shifted from the islamic lie asserted by this clip, to christians expounding on thier(OWN)theology. Anyone care to discuss islamic threat, without expounding on how (your self created god) personally reveled himself to u?
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
Who are you to judge what is true and what is false? If you even concider saying that you know you are a fool. To believe in something, that's a completely diffrent thing. However, there are several right wing christian book burning muppets out there if you want to discuss the islamic "threat".
damillionmalania 4 years ago
There is a definite right and wrong.
If this was not so you would not feel offense. What is this higher law that you expect the world to know? What is right and wrong is not a construct of man it is hard wired into them else how could we feel? No piece of legislation or etiquette not grounded in the universal law is ever felt. It is a law that all who are ever offended by anything truly believe in or they would not make excuses for breaking it or demand that any keep it?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Messiah said constantly "I TELL YOU THE TRUTH" He IS the TRUTH! The WAY, and the LIFE! islam denies him, so I deny islam, and anyone who says otherwise. Few will find his truth, and most have and will continue to invent thier own man-made theolgy, which is constructed to suit thier own desires. I am intolerant to anything or anyones beliefs, who deny the word. always im included with christians who have fabricated thier own diety, I deny them as well. the human heart is decietful, and depraved.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
Do not disparage other faiths that have similar tenants as your own. I tell you now that I do not have faith in the religion of Islam as pertaining to the power to save. This power is reserved only to the King Messiah who has and will come. I deny not the word and I welcome correction I at the current time disagree with your stance. Slander and hate are no way to win souls for Christ you forget that Paul told us that God accepts even ignorant and incomplete sacrifices we know what we worship....
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Scripture says to not even let the names of other gods come out of our lips! islam has only demonic inspired power. perhaps you are being a lil too, all enclusive. As far as desparaging other beliefs, Yes! you only encourage them to hold more steadfast to thier pagen roots when you stress similar tenants, those were stolen, and twisted to suit the desires of men, they in NO WAY have ANY Truth in them. You are doing them a disservice when you lend creedence to islam, you deminish n discredit YHVH
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
I have brought many to the light of the Son of God and his father through the Quran the Hindu Scriptures the various books of the dead. People have needs of a spiritual nature you are not to convince them that they are wrong about what they believe but about what they are right about. Or would you have us throw the old testament out too? It is a Jewish book and according to Intolerants and their false God of Cannon and its Father the firstborn of Satan wanted to trash my scriptures.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I doubt your words. You are not effective in making a case for your positions. With respects, Yous posts seem random and unrelated, as does the koran. If you are bringing many to the truth of the diety of yeshewa, then more power to you, but I dont know how its possible using the demonic hindu verses. I cant prove that you are a liar, here on this venue, But Im sure in my heart that at the least, you are under a satanic delusion. Reincarnation? A pantheon of gods? these beliefs create misery.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
Hinduism is not demonic. They have a pattern of Gods that come down to earth for the good of mankind they call them incarnates or avatars. I show them through their own gods that Jesus is what they were looking for all the time. The Hindu Verses are corruptions of the things that were studied by the wise men of the east and in their roots are not evil in anyway. The Scriptures are for all and there have been prophets even among the Gentiles Balaam for instance. Misery no hope but misplaced.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
they don't deny him as much as you would like probably. To be perfectly honest Jesus could have lied just as much as Muhammed. Nobody knows and if you think you know the truth from reading a dusty old book written by men who hungered for power and control you must be blind, my friend.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
the only liar's in this discussion are you, the koran, and ALL the untruths you all are professing. Your bible being dusty may be part or all of your problem. As far as the power n control, All (New Covenant Saints)but one were martyrs, They achieved neither, but thier truth endures forever. Your incinuations are falling on deaf ears, "they dont deny him as much as you (I) would like" they deny him as messiah, him crucified, his resurrection, and His return in Glory. what similitaries are left?
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
I admit that power hungry tyrants have corrupted parts of the word of God and removed large portions of it or replaced it with their own I do agree with you. I find that even behind this the truth can be found some things remain unstained and much can be learned from the lies about the original nature of things. I am not controlled I have been thrown out of many churches and many houses of worship. I know what I know I will teach I fear not neither am I under the hand of any man I obey only God
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
The great Isaiah scroll is dated between 350bc and 150 bc the same that Jesus Christ would have had access to. Jesus Christ himself quoted scripture, such as Genisis and Psalms. He also taught it in the Temple.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
Isaiah was my prophet before he was any Gentile's Prophet. I affirm that The Cannon does contain the word of God but even the cannon itself admits to losing Scripture book of the Wars of the Lord (Num. 21: 14) book of Jasher (Josh. 10: 13; 2 Sam. 1: 18) (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Gad the seer (1 Chr. 29: 29); book of Nathan the prophet (1 Chr. 29: 29; 2 Chr. 9: 29); prophecy of Ahijah (2 Chr. 9: 29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9: 29; 2 Chr. 12: 15; 2 Chr. 13: 22) to name a few
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
How much more clear can it be? "ONE GOD" Isaiah 43:10
angelawwjd 4 years ago
What about Isaiah 43:10 what does that mean to you. It seems clear to me that there is only ONE GOD.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
What about common sense and all evidence? It seems clear to me that there IS NO GOD. And if there is, he's a cruel, sadistic being, which can of course be seen by his followers who were created in his image.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Watch the video, the forbidden book. It has the historical information about the Bible and how and when it was put together.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
I watched this video. It was slander and Conjecture. Did you even read the post that you responded to?
the cannon itself admits to losing Scripture
(2 Chr. 9: 29); visions of Iddo the seer (2 Chr. 9: 29; 2 Chr. 12: 15; 2 Chr. 13: 22) 29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?
Only one of many examples Look it up
ssvideosyt 4 years ago
I believe that everything that is included and excluded from the Bible at this point in time is by the perfect will of God. Other ancient sources can be used for information but not intended as scripture.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
JOHN 10 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
PSALM 82 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
ROMANS 8 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. It is not my theology but that of him that sent me.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
a fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer, I'm forbidden to call you a fool, and im not, but you seem to have come to your own conclusions and still you ask more questions? say what you will, I cant continue to play your dishonest lil game. If you were honestly looking for an answer, look to the Holy Scriptures, not u tubians
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
I will dispense with questions as I have answers that you would find in the holy text if you would just shift the dogma aside and place it next to what the text has to say in the original languages.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I meant many will try, few will find the kingdom. I will never utter the name any other gods name, and I will NEVER use mohammeds demon inspired religion as a path to the Kingdom, and Never cast pearls before swine, least they trample them and turn and attack me.
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
twisted views and ignorance justified by religion at its best. :)
damillionmalania 4 years ago
you got the justifed right and you trampled the pearls, and attacked..
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
Who was the Swine?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I attacked Who?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Twisted from what?
Ignorant of What? Religion is a way of life
and people often choose different ways of life Do they not?
You might as well say that The Twisted ignorant savage East Asians are wrong. I do not even know what the question was.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
The Pearls before swine doctrine is a brotherhood doctrine. You might hear that the unworthy that drinks of the blood of Christ and eats of His flesh drinks damnation unto his soul.
The non-member is not to be given the holy communion or the higher doctrines that may confuse or scare them away from the Church This is what is meant.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I have taken the communion, and I would be concidered a swine by that metaphor. I did it to see if there would actually be any kind of divine preasence. I have to admit that I didn't really believe that there would be, but I was right.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
If you did not believe you are not damned those that are damned by the holy emblems are only those that have actual faith if it was merely a test you may yet in the doctrine be saved. It is not binding on men in this life to be Baptized we Lds have a procedure to bind the oaths and covanants that you missed in life or those that you took not seriously You can be saved from a life of indifference after death.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
to be perfectly honest I don't think there's anything I need to be saved from. I don't believe in eternal hellfire, and I see it as a childish threat from the church part to keep the power they still have left. I'm just trying to live my life as good as I can because I don't want to be remembered as a prick.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
What do you mean by good?
Can you define good for me? Do you believe in anything?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Mark 14:44 Messiah said to the high priests "I AM" He was more than a prophet, He was/is God! It Angers me that islam tried to rewrite the truth 600 yrs later
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
Islam tried to find the truth or at the very least peace. It does not win the souls of the Allahites to be angry at them. Try to win them over to Jesus he said himself in John 13 34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. make them Disciples in love not anger.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
ultimatly, God alone brings his elect unto Him. His word has reached most and falls on deaf ears. as far as witnessing, according to Paul, if they dont recieve the truth, dust off your feet and move on. I wish it were different but I see few who really will ever accept Messiah and islam angers me, not its people
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
You Say that Few will accept Jesus! True but the religion of Islam has many of our same points of Faith God in Heavan A Final Judgement
They In The Quran Accept Jesus As Al-Messiah But we know that they do not know what they mean by it Peter tells us By which also he (Jesus) went and preached unto the spirits in prison; The Prison of False Doctrine Do not Give up on another soul would you rather Jesus had Given Up on you?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Islam plagerized some of the scripyures and then went on to deney, change and insert many lies. Paul said that if anyone preaches any doctrine other than the one they preached, let him be eternally cursed. I believe that sums it up. the whole gospel matters, all others are cursed. islams words deny everything. words stolen mean nothing, they are truly night(moon) n Day
seekerofgod7777777 4 years ago
You speak of Islam As It were a Person. Can an entity be malicious? Can an Ideology deliberately build up lies? The people who founded and organized the doctrines of Islam were just error prone people. I have heard some Christians preach not what Jesus and the Apostles taught. He was teaching in your verse 2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: Is a Muslim your brother in Christ
has He been Baptised?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Who are you to decide what is true and what is false?
damillionmalania 4 years ago
I exist don't I? Truth is truth and all people should find it you can find truth in many ways. I have mine and you have yours, My method is Theology yours reason and fact. My Theology Is all encompassing It includes Fact and Reason and all other things. It is saturated in my willingness and ability to reach for the incomprehensible, the unexplained, the undiscovered, and the unproven.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
This guy speaks of god and Jesus as if they undoubtly existed, and that's what I hate about this video. :\ How come christians can believe all this with almost no record of it actually taking place?
damillionmalania 4 years ago
You do Know that Harun Yahya Is a Muslim don't you? It is not Just the Christians it is Islam and pre-Rabbinic Judaism too. So if you attack one of us you attack us all.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
true, i attack you all. It's just that I don't like videos of the genre faith based education. Why not make a video with facts instead of beliefs?
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Why do you waste your time If you think that it is fiction? Facts are given in this same video it goes into linguistics which is factual as Language is a science. I hold to science and facts but they are not complete. They as of yet cannot prove everything. Then with facts comes always interpretation.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I don't believe that fact can solve everything. I didn't say that. I'm just saying that science has at least accomplished something, and if a theory is wrong people go on with their lives and adopt a new one until it's also disproven. In religion however, people refuse to see that they may be wrong. They're absolutley certain of everything and think they know it all, and that's something that upsets me.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
No, I have seen so many people cling to the Dogma of Scientific Theory as ardently and unmovingly as some of my fellow religionists. I would not expunge science I yield to much of what it tells me. I find that religion holds much knowledge that meets up with Science. If you would Read in The Doctrine and Covenants the whole of section 89
You may see very scientific advise.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Well, let's assume that I can prove that the hindus are right and the christians are wrong. I can't, but let's pretend I can for just a second. A christian wouldn't accept this proof, he/she would just say that it isn't evidence enough or make up a weak spot (usually since it doesn't fit in with what the bible says).
damillionmalania 4 years ago
I think that Much of Hinduism Is True!
They have many of the same values as the Christians. If you do not believe that is ok by me I tell what I know. If you have faith in any system I will not try to make you renounce it my the sword or at gunpoint. Did my Jesus do that no! You are free to hold true what light you have and I see much light in an inquisitive nature. Many would have given up posting by now.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
well, christianity has borrowed a lot from hinduism, I agree. Actually christians have borrowed almost everything from other religions. I believe in my own system. When I die I just die, and I will remain dead forever. No hellfire awaits me, as well as no heaven, and that's what I believe.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
You are free to think and think you know what you might well actually know.
It is my belief that I fought for man's freedom to chose his path in this life from the King of Lies and the Man with the Chain. Just Let Us Believe as we do and share with us your light because I have read in your words that you have light and it is light from a different lamp than my own.
Thank You
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Is that your entire system?
Is there anything else to it?
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
not really. I don't believe that death has to be as complicated as many make it out to be. I believe that being born is nothing but luck, and that my preasence in this world has no meaning to it. And also, I believe that if there is a god who created me for a reason, he doesn't respect my own will.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
My God respect my will and my ability to choose. This would extend to you also. In my first life as a spirit I fought a war on the side of My God to uphold Choice as belonging to man in the flesh. We even let those that did not want to be born remain in the spirit. They have chosen to torment and to tempt us. Free will is what I am commanded by my God if needed to die for. Not Just mine but that of all men.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
well, it just seems that if god really cared about my opinion or my will he would let me know himself. I shouldn't have to hear it from anyone else. And if what you speak of was a deliberate choise I did I want him to show me that I have chosen it to begin with.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
I believe that I can speak the words of my father that I have known for quite some time.
And as for personal manifestations I know that some people get them, If you really need one than pray to God and have faith.
Some things aren't all big and some things he wants you to choose.
Choose to do and you will know when you do what is false and what is true.
It is all about free choice.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
I have sought god in various places. I haven't found any trace of him yet, and I havn't found a single sign of his existance. If god wanted to it seems like he could appear on earth and prove to us once and for all that he does exist and that we should have no doubts. NOT in human form though, that wouldn't be good enough for me I'm afraid.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
You would have to read the entire Bible to understand who God is and why he does things the way he does. Unless your filled with the holy spirit however the words may be confusing. You should read and pray for your eyes and heart to be open, this is the only way of getting the full life of the Word of God.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
I have read the bible, and I think it holds a great deal of wisdom, but I don't beleve that it's entirely the word of god, if he does exist. I believe that the bible was written by men, most of with a lust for power.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
If God can create the entire universe, how hard then would it be to perfect his word?
angelawwjd 4 years ago
impossible, which is why the bible should never have been written.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
I believe that I am a God, you are a God and all other Human beings are Gods. Try To find yourself and you will find God I found myself. What are you looking for in a sign?
If God our father appeared to you in his form which is human you would not believe in him, I do not understand what
exactly you seek.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
because any man could be a fraud, despite if he believes that he is god or not. I would believe in him if he proved himself to be a so called "supernatural" being, as christians claim him to be. Let's face it, no man could ever create the universe or turn water into wine.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Not all Christians Claim him to be a supernatural being. I for one Do Not. He is completely natural God was a man as I am as you are. He lived a life like unto man's life. He was born he lived and he died and then he got up again still a man. His form has always been human. I was created in his image. I am a son of My God the same as all are children.
God works through natural means meaning that all his works are planned and in line with the laws of nature.
Supernaturalism is a Myth.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
so then you can't possibly believe in the christian version of how the universe was created. Right? I mean, to shape an entire universe...without air, for that matter. That must have been quite a problem to tackle...
damillionmalania 4 years ago
We could go on forever even if I convinced you that God is. You would simply ask what was before that. I am not foolish and not prideful. I tell you that my understanding is that matter has always existed it cannot be destroyed of created and when you say The Christian Version I Tell You That there is no standard version common to all Christians. I also tell you That I am a Christian and will not tell any that claim Christ their own that they are not.I helped create this universe and so did you
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
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My own theory is that there was no beginning of the universe and there will be no end. Actually for once science is as strange as religion in this matter. However, we will see countless worlds destroyed before the last man draws his final breathe. Such is the nature of man. All this of course means that I do not believe in a god who created the world.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
If you are a god, then you should be able to create anything with the power of your WORD. You should be able to breathe life into your creations. Can you do that, can you create spiritual life? If you can't do it now, you never will.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
If you were once a baby and could not talk and could not walk the line of logic you lie before us is that you would never be able to talk. I am God in Embryo he is my father and I his son I will in time learn to walk on water and my words will create things but I am but an Infant God I am still learning to divide the darkness from the light and how to be the giver of grace as my father is I am in school to be a God that is what life is it is preparation for my apotheosis.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Wow, you definitely don't believe in the God of the Bible. Isaiah 43:10 One God!!! None before, none after. By the way the Isaiah scroll is the oldest ever found.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
God's name "ONE" is not so straight forward as your English One from the Latin Unicus meaning solidly and indisputably one continuity.
'echadh' (אחד), means one and all This is the word used in the shema. There is none befor or after God because he was before us he will be after us and in Christ he was with us in the flesh
This Doctrine of Apotheosis is why the Orthodoxy left the Holy See I was never a part of Vatican They teach it today
I am glad you read the bible but translations lose much.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
It is not Biblical!! We are the bride of christ to become one with HIM.
angelawwjd 4 years ago
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messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
well, exept for that perhaps they knew prometheus, and not Jesus.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Προμηθεύς or Prometheus is the Ancient Greek God who was Crucified for stealing fire from his fellow Gods to Give it to Mankind. His name means forethought and In my own world-view (which I have by some of the faith-groups/Churches that I have attended been thrown out for preaching) he is a prototype for Christ just as Moses who they accept in the same capacity was.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
like I said before, christianity has borrowed a lot from other religions. Here's another thing. :)
damillionmalania 4 years ago
It is my belief that all were true at one point but corruption mostly unintentional crept in As it says in the Book of Enoch of Messiah King God. I have seven names in the seven tongues of the world and they all are King of Kings Lord of Lords and the Youth Enthroned!
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
jesus blessed be your name even after you created a perfect earth and we rejected you and you still came for us with love and humility and after that you died and were beaten because you loved and passionately and after that YOU STILL ALLOWED ME TO BE FORGIVEN that is love !!!! grow my faith more and more
m1garand0 4 years ago
koran, a book of viper's!!!
Snakes, Devil's!!!
dapedra187 4 years ago
In 1978, the LDS First Presidency "The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, Confucius, and the Reformers, as well as philosophers including Socrates, Plato, and others, received a portion of God's light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals." Mohamemd recived GOD'S Quran
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago 2
And where could I find evidence for that Plato and Socrates were connected with god?
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Plato born in Athens died in Athens New Testament tells in ACTS 17 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill and said Ye men of Athens I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious For as I passed by and beheld your devotions I found an altar with this inscription TO THE UNKNOWN GOD Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship him declare I unto you
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
It doesn't really say Plato, just men of Athens...
well, I'm not sure the bible is the best source if you want proof, but at least it's something. thanks for trying, bro. ;)
damillionmalania 4 years ago
Epimenides The Prophet of Crete is credited with the idea of creating an altar to the unknown god six centuries (6th Century BC) prior to this on the sight of Mars Hill. If it stood in Paul's time It stood in Plato's and if you have ever read Plato's Republic Socrates and Plato and most of the other Greeks worshiped all the Gods and would not want to miss any one.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
Have you ever read the Qu'ran? If this is a Christian Slander of another's
Holy Book Christ would not approve. Partly on the grounds that the Qu'ran holds much truth and to a point testify of himself. The second objection is that Jesus is symbolically the brazen serpent of Moses. Do not attack any religion because truth is in all.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
there is wisdom in them all, but in them all there is also stupidity, justifying of "evil" deeds and threatening of eternal punishment. Well, save the last one for the three dogmas, but still. And yes, I have read the Koran.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
I ask , What can you do about the stupidity and evil? I do not believe in the complete validity and I do believe in the human falability of even my Prophets. Some Prophets as all men can fall. This is the reason for the many faiths all true or partly true in their times I do not deny the divine origin of any but some readings are not pure because of the ignorance of the reader or tainted preconceptions. I say repel the bad with something better I think you are trying
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
he will not return he;s not real it;s all a fucking story
rickcheeseman 4 years ago
Your wrong. He does exist and will return. You have to have faith. It's easier to believe there is no Jesus than there is. The devil tells us that Jesus doesn't exist so we wont believe in him. The Devil is the ruler on Earth, and he will do anything to make us unbelievers in Jesus & God my friend.
hipforit 4 years ago
The devil does not exist, just in the same way that god doesn't exist. No evidence have been presented for either. No one has actually ever met the devil, just in the same way that no one has ever met god or Jesus. There is just ONE source in the roman archives which proves that there was a guy named Jesus 2000 years ago who was crucified. It doesn't say if it's THE Jesus either, so there's really no real evidence.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
And when you die no one will remember you within three years of your passing and will dispute if any records you leave behind are not in fact fiction. If one needs proof of everything it tells us that the man is just a puppet of things that others tell him. I have a trust in what is largely unknown, but I know it. I would tell you and all people the
Devil is and God is for I have met them both about their works!
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago
yes, but I havn't raised the dead, fed the hungry, had revelations from god, cured blindness(?) and so on. However, a certain christian savior did (according to the bible), and that should have made him as famous as the Beatles. And believe me, there will be a record of the Beatles in 2000 years even.
And if a man doesn't need proof for his beliefs that's what I'd call a puppet of things that others (the church etc) tells him.
And btw, I don't have horns.
damillionmalania 4 years ago
I wasn't calling you the Devil Nor Was I calling you God or Likening you to one or the others. I tell you that I have seen and felt and know but he (God) has not left me with anything physical as what you would seem to feel you need. Under this I have to see with my eyes photos or videos to believe any thing at all. I have doctored photos and videos and I ask no one to believe that which is not true.
messiahbenlevi 4 years ago