2010 Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 - up close and personal

[jasonfish07]

Today my world changed, I sat on this bike (saturday will be the test ride), Im 6ft 7in tall and have never felt at home on a bike. Ive owned gixers and now a softail but i still feel like magilla gorilla on it.

[my02warrior]

Price here in Vancouver BC is $16,500.00!!!, plus tax, plus pdi, plus everthing else!!!

[boulderdsvo]

Holy shit, I've been pronouncing "Tenere" wrong for 20 years!

[OzClawhammer]

@boulderdsvo Me too I've been calling them "ten-ears" ! Not "ten-er-ray"

[ESLLM5]

Does anyone know the Load Capacity of the Super Tenere? How many lbs. including Rider, Passenger, and luggage?

[m109r67]

nice bike.

[andreelecktra]

EU QUERO UMA DESSA.

[Shartmiester]

Its here. I just put my $500 deposit down today for my ST arriving this spirng. More features and less expensive than the BMW GSA which I also own. BMW R1200GSA for sale 2006. Check MN Craigslist.

[Tempusdomine]

Good job dude.

[pgcs1964]

O Brasil espera pela nova teneré 1200, os fãs da rainha do deserto estão osfãos, não temos aqui essa moto ainda. Yamaha, da um jeito ou a bmw agradece.

[dakaraabbccdd]

RUBBISH Bike!

[86Georgiy]

it's costs like R1...

[barkendog1]

ah boring ah. Yeah boring ah.

[KHIJAPAN]

Yamaha XT1200 is 261 kg and BMW GS is 258 kg but BMW is with 90% of fuel. Good Trick BMW! Adding the extra weight of 4 litter is a drop heavier than 261kg.

Conclusion: same weight, same power, same torque. But the difference is with Yamaha will have an ultra reliable tourer with no recalls on brake, gearbox, electronics.. like BMW

[ferleo2002]

soy fanatico de mi s tenere 750 y no veo el momento de montar el 1200 para conparar,como se conporta en la ruta , soy de argentina y mi super no para nunca de maravillarme saudos para todos los q disfrutamos de esta pasion por la ruta

[TS50ER]

How much is the beast ? Yamaha's have never been cheap. Word around the camp fire is that there will be no test models available at dealers. Certainly stacked with hi-tech goodies and a very handsome bike. Thumbs up from a distance. Can't wait for the ride reports from the bike mags and yes, the price.

[korygane]

je suis un fan des Ténéré.. J'ai acheté la dernière super Ténéré 1200 XTZ. Je lui ai consacré un forum dédié aux Super Ténéré 1200 et 750 ainsi qu'aux Ténéré 660 et 600 XTZ : supertenere.superforum.fr . je suis pressé de l'avoir

[HawkGTboy]

Nice! Now bring it to the USA, Yamaha!

[manureboots]

having owned dt 50 mx,s dt 125 lc,s dt 175mx xt 550 xt 250 xt 500 xt 600 and a new xtz 750 in 89, why has it taken so long to bring out a new bike? especially during the dakar winning years with peterhansel?

i think i will stick to my africa twin

especially as these things are £13000!!

[robgiclette]

When the Japs make something to compete against, they insure it's better than what they compete against. BMW will have to improve reliability if they want to stant-up against this new Machine.

[rin1987]

this bike is cool but why aim at the 1200gs? should have kept it like the old one just medium you know.... that concept really had me fired up it looked awsome.

[Gianfry58]

261 KG ...ON SAND? 12.700 € ? ..mmhhh my supertènèrè '89 it's better. You can believe !!

[ispyaspy]

Fart!!! 20mm

[arminalizadehnia]

lol i think he knows his stuffing up... leave the poor bloke alone man good on ya mate LMAO atleast for trying what abt all the other ppl at home making fun of him ... you go stand up there and talk!!!

[pernicketty]

@arminalizadehnia True but people who do that for a job need to have developed professional skills. He does seem to know his stuff but the professional skills?

[talbertnz]

dont forget the shaft drive!

[Blown57pros]

So....the torque you put in at the throttle will be the same at the back wheel? Why not turn the wheel by hand and save fuel? Don't you mean the offset crank cancels the torque twist of the engine similar to Bmw's R1200 so you can do better wheelies?

If you don't understand the subject matter you should clarify it with someone who does so it will be of some use to the viewer.

[BoldUniverse]

yes, uye7s, I agree with you, good presentation, lots of information, good confidence, but just a little rough round the edges.

[erkelens1990]

if he only highly understood what he was talking about he would seem so much more confident and understandable, its a good bike but i wish that someone else would present it.. its like a yr 6 speech

[Papeiki]

i want to see this bike in a desert.... it will only see urban desert. one pison rules

[skasyshoot]

l love KTM 990 ADV q[^_^]p

KTM 990 ADV

the best and the king of adventure

KTM 990 ADV win q[^_^]p

[vecchiume1]

@skasyshoot The old KTM 950 superenduro was the best bike for adventure and the most reliable,perfect for the desert! The new Ktm 990 is very powerful but a little less reliable and the 950 was cheaper and easy to mantain.The 990 sm is a great 2cyl-big-supermotard.Bmw and yamaha are comfortable,but in the desert or in long-dirt-hard bike adventures KTM wins with 2cyl and mono-cyl engines.

[excelephant]

Should have gone with a TDM based litre adventure machine aimed more at the KTM 990 ADV (which I ride), a cheaper, slightly more reliable version of my bike which takes less than two hours to do an oil change on would be awesome!

[vecchiume1]

@excelephant For me the "old" ktm 950 superenduro was the shit!....but with the oil change....i think more or less it takes the same time as the 990

[patrickdavidokeeffe]

20 mm suspension travel! wow! that will be handy off road......

[LiamXaoh]

@patrickdavidokeeffe - yep.  Me thinks the presenter was as nervous as shit.

[toto8504101080]

Great presentation. well done Gismag. In my subscribtions from now on !

[TVR450SE]

Nice presentation, thanks.

[johnny89racer]

Nice Loz :-)

[criticalmass181]

The 270 degree opposed crank has been around since the TDM of the 80's, so i'd hardly class it as a reinvention of the wheel. I'd certainly not associate it with the cross plane crank of the new R1. They should have continued progression of the XTZ 750. It won Dakar 7 times with Peterhansel aboard. Why would you drop that nugget? This is too techo to be a real adventure bike. How do you fix it in the desert, by your self, with snot and bark?

[LiamXaoh]

@criticalmass181 - easy, if you're stuck in the desert make sure have a genuine Yamaha's S & B kit. Contains genuine Japanese Snot and Imported European Bark.  Simple Heh?

[criticalmass181]

@LiamXaoh LOL...very good.

[thatguyinpants]

oh I thought it was a joke - you know - like "Jizz" mag

[calaiscruiser]

a little more rehearsal before filming an in depth motorcycle review perhaps...

[uye7s]

good effort but the presenter really needs to hone his presenting skills.

[87Echo]

fuck this fuckn ADS!

[Gee40areretarded]

@itaintmyfault...

Please reply with a link to a video where we can all see you doing a better job..!!

This guy does a more than fine job.

He delivers a very honest presentation, plausible, and shows great product knowledge.

I would buy this bike from him.

[MrWaldemaro]

Shock and disappointment after viewing this screwed-up and stretched Super Tenere. A stetched Burgman or a heavy Plastic-Ship Varadero. Where is the promised lightness of a desert-gazelle Tenere? It looks rather like a stetched Burgman or the same Plastic-Ship Varadero, then a grownup Travel-Enduro. A heavy hippo in the Tenere, 261kg but 23ltr Tank? Look the NICI-videos on youtoube to see good design of a possible Tenere.

Shame on you

[kernowrock555]

brilliant review, be interestin to see what it sounds like -1200 parallel twin should have some 'rumble'! panniers look small though...

[Pwn00b]

Great, you cant turn the ABS off even if you want to So its completely worthless as an adventure bike The number of times I have nearly killed myself after forgetting to switch the ABS off on my GS12 after switching the ignition back on has taught me to scorn all things ABS off-road (Unless you are on a relatively flat unsealed road and traveling at higher speeds). Imagine taking a bike with non-switchable ABS into mountainous terrain with 1:4 slopes or worse. I would kiss my ass good buy.

[Bwah2012]

@Pwn00b sounds bad dude , shld have the option of turning ABS off

[Pwn00b]

Assuming that it does not already have switchable ABS. I am just going by some internet spec sheets and reviews (like this one) and some have directly commented that the ABS is not switchable (Unlike that on the BMW R1200GS/A and the 950/990 KTM Adventure). Even if it is not switchable stock there will probably be an aftermarket kit to break the circuit, although I would rather not rely on the aftermarket (any bike can be made into a Dakar winner if you throw enough cash at it).

[Pwn00b]

For people wondering why you would want to switch the ABS off: When off-road you may, at times, need to lock the back wheel in order to bring the bike to a complete and controlled stop, such as in a steep descent on slippery gravel (I am not saying you need to slide like a maniac, just get some grip). ABS will prevent you from locking your wheel and thus prevent you from actually being able to stop the bike, sometimes you even build up speed to the point that you are out of control.

[Pwn00b]

ABS can have a tendency to get on a roll where even a minor amount of force will result in a lock and thus intervention... Its like experiencing brake failure. On-road ABS is excellent and on unsealed roads where you are travelling at high speed, ABS is helpful as you are faced with much the same problems as on-road should something jump out at you. Its just during technical riding or in steep, slippery, terrain that ABS really needs to be turned off for safety (especially around cliffs)

[kgokong]

If u really want to go up stupid slopes on a huge bike then simply pull the ABS fuse out .....

[Pwn00b]

Haha yeah. Would pulling the ABS fuse out count as an aftermarket solution? Does the ABS have a simple fuse on this bike? Sure, it is not hard to put a simple switch on the ABS line on some bikes (As I said). As for riding big bikes up SMALL slopes (It does not need to be the Erzberg), what is the point of owning an adventure bike if a small hill scares you away. Not everyone here is some American poser who thinks Adventure riding is going to the mall and riding up and down kerbs for the show.

[yamrz500]

WOW! Great job yamaha now if you want to make MONEY and sell motorcycles get your head out of your ass and bring both the xt 660 and this bike to the U.S.A.!!

[MrBluebone]

This bike will kick ass i think, cant' wait until the tests comming.

If you dont' like yamaha?...there is other bikes out there.

[hankgs]

We shall see... The R1200GS is a true "all around bike". It can handle the twisties and backroads like a sportbike as well as fire roads and be a long distance touring bike as well. Those are BIG shoes to fill!

[scarwall]

ah, its just another gay yamaha

[billy13801]

When he says this bike was mean to be dropped on its side does he mean that i can pull up in my driveway and literalli just drop it there, cos if he does im buying one next week.

[iggypick]

Funny how people seem to judge a bike by simply comparing numbers and looks, which is probably important nowadays, bike looks great, as does a beemer or a ktm adv they all ride and are ridden completly different and are unique in their own way, some guys appreciate this, however there's also a group that think the above is more important

[excelephant]

@iggypick Except that they are pitching this at BMW 1200GS buyers, so all those numbers and looks are all important - Yamaha Marketing know this. Having said that, the Beemer still wins in my opinion - and I ride a KTM!

[iggypick]

@excelephant, you're right, i'm glad you like a beemer better, biking would be boring and pretty dull if we'd ride the same bike's and in this process we probably get better bikes every year, i ride an old superten, with complete mx suspension of a yz 450, like the beemer as well, but i was at the official NL introduction yesterday, and let me tell you, there was lots of adventures parked outside, both the bavarian and austrian

[morpheus1976]

Love it.

[hunkules1962]

Soooo... BMW launched the R1200GS in 2004. 6 years later (yes, SIX YEARS LATER) Yamaha delivers identical power/torque, but weighing much more. Yamaha even did'nt have the decency to invent a new design. I simply cannot believe it.

[gurnstein]

@hunkules1962

Maybe those intervening years have been used to put some test miles on the Yamaha, in order to put a reliable unit out on the market. Something BMW apparently omitted to do.

[hunkules1962]

@gurnstein : That's open for discussion. But the Beemer introduced lots of new technology, and is reliable since a couple of years. Yamaha has yet to proove that this model doesn't have teething problems. Time will tell, of course. But till then, it's an exact copy of the GS, 6 years later. Duh.

[Soundgarden8497]

hnkules1962 - i agree with u mate, there's a serious lack of innovation and imagination when it comes to the new adventure bikes these days, no one can make the perfect bike.

[MarcS4R]

it kind of looks like a boring newer styled Varadero...ugly if you ask me. funny how things change, the most radical bikes in Terms of design and performance are coming from Europe...

[maxbg]

Fly by Wire Throttle Y-CCT with traction control, 270 crank big bang design from motogp, 3 type D-mode selection. Intelligent Unified Brake System with ABS, USD front fork with long travel. Steel chassis for offroad robustness. Twin projector headlights.... what else can you ask for?

[excelephant]

@maxbg I'd ask for less stuff to go wrong that I can't fix on the side of the road.

[73mojo]

Nice looking GS challenger and a mostly decent intro clip. A bit confusing with the errors in the early stages of the clip though...take 2.LoL

That aside, stick it up em Yamaha :)

And wake up Mr Honda :(

[oliverburke]

Yeah, I had such a fun time thinking: "It's kin'a nice to see an unpolished presentation". Makes me empathize with the guy that - gee, this is what most of us look like in front of a camera! :).

Funny, charming...(I didn't make it all the way through though :)