"Here", we have education and wealth and there are no suicide bombers "here". But "there" they must be uneducated and poor, that's why they strap C4 on to their chests and walks into the market and explodes them. You know, because they dont have anything else to do, because they are poor! Uneducated! Thank god our politicians and policy makers are so clever. Oh BTW, sarcasm.
mmm i dunno honestly i get what shes saying about not everyone is a terrorist,
but i highly doubt that if the same amount of funding was given to both Nicaragua and Afghanistan that the number of terrorists from both countries would be the same, or even close to the same.
Its kinda Bullshit to not agree with that, their whole society is so fucking backwards that they strap bombs to little kids and treat others not like them as if theyre shit
Get the aid right! Agreed. If they have no aid and are constantly worried about where their kids next meal is coming from, they will have no time left to plan international terrorism.
"...members from a wide variety of terrorist groups...say that they joined tehse argmed struggles...to maintain or develop social relations with other terrorist members. These are not the statements of a small number of terrorists; in the Turkish sample, for instance, the 1,100 terrorists interviewed were 10 times more likely to say that they joined the terrorist organization 'because their friends were members' than because of the 'ideology' of the group."
The poor are not violent its only the rich who are violent. If poor become terrorists then how come so many Hindu poor dont pick up guns? Its ideology pushed by the rich that is dangerous.
I don't see the big deal actually about the muslims. They are militarily pitiful, an average european country could probably defeat the entire middle east and neighbouring suburbs if they really honestly went for it, far as war goes.
And further terrorism is the dumbest thing the muslims can do. It'll just make people nuke Mecca one day (And that would pretty much end Islam as we know it.) Fact is, you CAN beat humans into submission. (Easily really, that's why they had slavery in the past.)
I mean I'll elaborate too. There's people who think we would never ever nuke Mecca, but if you ask me all it takes for Mecca to be nuked is one REAL atrocity by some moron terrorist. Something worse then 9/11. And they're stupid enough to do it. Then bye bye Mecca.
And some say this would cause the Muslims to fight on with a vengeance, but I don't think so. Japan didn't fight on with a vengeance after being nuked and THEY flew planes into stuff. They realized they where defeated.
My advice to the muslims as such would be simple. (And hey they have some legit grievances (like the Israel stuff, and the Iraq war and countries that have been isolated by the US and whatnot), whatever you do to resist, terrorism is NOT a good idea. It'll just be used as an excuse for more invasions even at BEST.
You can't beat the west with force, but they can absolutely curbstomp the living shit out of you if you annoy them enough.
@TheSkunkCat It's a grim and disturbing thought, but I'm inclined to agree with you on this.
I really hope it never has to come to that though. There really is no dispute that a single generation of us humans can internally have which warrants poisoning the Earth through nuclear weaponry for thousands of years.
@TheSkunkCat I don't think anyone will bomb Mecca, ever. There's simply too many muslims in the western world, our governments would never take action against a religious target. If we did, we'd lose the moral higher ground too.
So Richard Harris is right. And the fact most of the terrorist are well versed but poorly Educated as they come under pan islamic influence of the worst kind. I am sure that their interpretation is not considered valid by most serious Islamic theologians. I think almost all religions must come to terms with it and the easiest answer is that every devotee must go thru a phase of atheism. Then he may remain secular or become a true secular religous person.
Evil welcomes both rich and poor. Evil uses both rich and poor. Islam, Communists, Socialists, Progressives, the Ruling Elite..... they use the rich and the poor.
They are correct, but what they missed the most is the education level, lower the education level, higher the chances of being spun up in the Islamic Ismanist
@IslamistTube2 That's not true. Study after study has shown that Islamic terrorists are usually the most educated among there peers. This is true in the case of the 9/11 hijackers or in the case of fort hood.
@IslamistTube2 I just gave you two examples. All of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated. Many of them had Ph'D's. None lived in poverty. Quite the contrary actually. Many of them lived within wealthy saudi families.
Examples of so called high profile targets being attacked by "high profile" terrorists. Just as the good lady identified in her exposé. Yet those examples dont support your thesis. I gave you counter examples. And believe it or not, most recorded attacks are not delivered against high profile targets, but rather against common people (literally in busy market streets of Pakistans cities, terrorizing of simple Afghani villagers, farmers, etc.).
@Wrath0fKhan I'm not disagreeing with you here, wrathofkhan. I believe that it is a total myth that the cause of Islamic terrorism is poverty, economics, or politics.
@Drgamedood Poverty, economics and politics are part of terrorism, but many factors play into Islamic terrorism, most pronounced is simple indoctrination into a false belief of God and blindly following writing in a book.
2. Anyone who flies planes into buildings to kill innocent people in the name of a dogma "religion", is an ABSOLUTE sign of not intellect. It does not take intelligence to grab a gun and kill innocent people. Hasan was a failed MD and he knew it. Clearly his lack of intelligence put him where he is now.
@IslamistTube2 1) I know that. I never even implied that it did.
2) My point was that most liberals and apologists will say it's actually their lack of education and not their religion that's the cause of their behavior. But that doesn't make any sense. Given that many terrorists have at the minumum, a college education.
@Drgamedood 1. Wealth certainly does not equate intellect.
2. Anyone who flies planes into buildings to kill innocent people in the name of a dogma "religion", is an ABSOLUTE sign of not intellect. It does not take intelligence to grab a gun and kill innocent people. Hasan was a failed MD and he knew it. Clearly his lack of intelligence put him where he is now.
@IslamistTube2 I agree, in principle. But some terrorists were highly educated, so this raises the question: What KIND of education would stop extremism. The only answer I could come up so far is: and educational system that emphasizes critical thinking and evidence based reasoning. More precisely, teaching philosophy :D
@IslamistTube2 That explains why non of the 9/11 hijackers were university educated and why the most notorious Islamist of the last 50 years was not a member of the wealthiest private family in Saudi Arabia.
No bro... "That" explains why vast majority of attacks were committed against low profiles targets, mostly killing people in developing countries (e.g. more than 90% of "Al-Qaeda and co" victims so far were mostly poor Muslims themselves ).
@Wrath0fKhan No sis... the point is that wealth has nothing to do with it. The attacks are carried out based upon Islamic instruction, the better educated they are in Islam the greater threat they are.
"the point is that wealth has nothing to do with it"
Without wealth you cant afford studying at prestigious "western universities", right? Hence certain wealth component is there, br0, whether you like it or not.
"islamic instruction"
Something like that, indeed. Yet thats not the point of contention here.
Greater threat for whom? For the better educated "West"? Again, vast majority of perpetrators and victims are poor Muslims (obliterated by poor Muslims).
Maybe you believe that we here in the "West" are by definition "high profile targets". Since Id consider myself an "elitist exceptionalist", "cultural non-relativist", Id agree with such a proposition.
@Wrath0fKhan To all those who don't want to live under a worldwide Islamic caliphate, the one that God told Mohamed to establish. Since God missed Australasia and America while looking at his globe (he has bad eye sight) there is nothing about those continents in the Koran, but those most sincere to the religion of Islam are seeking to create that caliphate. I'm sure most Muslims don't want it, but their religion does.
Islam is Terrorism as simple as that.
htgajjar 6 months ago
"Here", we have education and wealth and there are no suicide bombers "here". But "there" they must be uneducated and poor, that's why they strap C4 on to their chests and walks into the market and explodes them. You know, because they dont have anything else to do, because they are poor! Uneducated! Thank god our politicians and policy makers are so clever. Oh BTW, sarcasm.
ponsrox 8 months ago
Very interesting video for dispelling "conventional wisdom" on terrorism.
MsMrNoface 8 months ago 3
i can't say that this video says anything.
souphefirst 9 months ago
@souphefirst
Truth be told, eh? ;-)
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago
KHAN!!!!!
that is all
steadwik 9 months ago
@steadwik
How did you know...
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan
miracle of god?
steadwik 9 months ago 4
mmm i dunno honestly i get what shes saying about not everyone is a terrorist,
but i highly doubt that if the same amount of funding was given to both Nicaragua and Afghanistan that the number of terrorists from both countries would be the same, or even close to the same.
Its kinda Bullshit to not agree with that, their whole society is so fucking backwards that they strap bombs to little kids and treat others not like them as if theyre shit
NDBNTZ 9 months ago
Get the aid right! Agreed. If they have no aid and are constantly worried about where their kids next meal is coming from, they will have no time left to plan international terrorism.
SissingPyd 9 months ago
"...members from a wide variety of terrorist groups...say that they joined tehse argmed struggles...to maintain or develop social relations with other terrorist members. These are not the statements of a small number of terrorists; in the Turkish sample, for instance, the 1,100 terrorists interviewed were 10 times more likely to say that they joined the terrorist organization 'because their friends were members' than because of the 'ideology' of the group."
Houshalter 9 months ago
The moving background is distracting.
cherylsalo 9 months ago
Woah! Ease up on the foundation and soft ligthing, Hong Kong studio!
NBM397 9 months ago
The poor are not violent its only the rich who are violent. If poor become terrorists then how come so many Hindu poor dont pick up guns? Its ideology pushed by the rich that is dangerous.
KarthikSoun 9 months ago
@KarthikSoun >>implying Hindu people are extreme radicals and are corrupting large portions of a whole entire section of the world.
NDBNTZ 9 months ago
@NDBNTZ Is that sarcasm or are you implying Hindus can be as fanatic as Islamic terrorists?
KarthikSoun 9 months ago
nuke em all from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
bign3ck 9 months ago 14
@bign3ck
Mass drivers! Centauri Prime for the win!
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago 4
@Wrath0fKhan Mass drivers? That's pretty harsh, ask the Narn ( :
mclordhelmet 9 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan The Narn survived. We need something better.
Nonsensei436 9 months ago
@bign3ck
but how to we get the oil?
LucianUramu 9 months ago
I don't see the big deal actually about the muslims. They are militarily pitiful, an average european country could probably defeat the entire middle east and neighbouring suburbs if they really honestly went for it, far as war goes.
And further terrorism is the dumbest thing the muslims can do. It'll just make people nuke Mecca one day (And that would pretty much end Islam as we know it.) Fact is, you CAN beat humans into submission. (Easily really, that's why they had slavery in the past.)
TheSkunkCat 9 months ago
@TheSkunkCat
I mean I'll elaborate too. There's people who think we would never ever nuke Mecca, but if you ask me all it takes for Mecca to be nuked is one REAL atrocity by some moron terrorist. Something worse then 9/11. And they're stupid enough to do it. Then bye bye Mecca.
And some say this would cause the Muslims to fight on with a vengeance, but I don't think so. Japan didn't fight on with a vengeance after being nuked and THEY flew planes into stuff. They realized they where defeated.
TheSkunkCat 9 months ago
@TheSkunkCat
My advice to the muslims as such would be simple. (And hey they have some legit grievances (like the Israel stuff, and the Iraq war and countries that have been isolated by the US and whatnot), whatever you do to resist, terrorism is NOT a good idea. It'll just be used as an excuse for more invasions even at BEST.
You can't beat the west with force, but they can absolutely curbstomp the living shit out of you if you annoy them enough.
TheSkunkCat 9 months ago
@TheSkunkCat It's a grim and disturbing thought, but I'm inclined to agree with you on this.
I really hope it never has to come to that though. There really is no dispute that a single generation of us humans can internally have which warrants poisoning the Earth through nuclear weaponry for thousands of years.
GluttonForSex 9 months ago
@TheSkunkCat I don't think anyone will bomb Mecca, ever. There's simply too many muslims in the western world, our governments would never take action against a religious target. If we did, we'd lose the moral higher ground too.
sogghartha 9 months ago
@sogghartha
"moral higher ground"
MHG → is useless if you cant protect it from deconstruction (e.g. by importing ideologies just like traditional revivalist Muhammadan Islam).
"too many muslims in the western world"
If that is true, then it well may be too late to win this cultural war.
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago 3
So Richard Harris is right. And the fact most of the terrorist are well versed but poorly Educated as they come under pan islamic influence of the worst kind. I am sure that their interpretation is not considered valid by most serious Islamic theologians. I think almost all religions must come to terms with it and the easiest answer is that every devotee must go thru a phase of atheism. Then he may remain secular or become a true secular religous person.
rajeshkher531 9 months ago 4
@rajeshkher531
"Richard Harris"
Richard Harris - the Irish actor? Sam Harris - neuro-scientist, philosopher, author? Richard Dawkins - ethologist, evolutionary biologist, author? Someone else?
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago 6
@Wrath0fKhan Sorry my error it should be Sam Harris. Apology to Sam too.
rajeshkher531 9 months ago 2
@rajeshkher531
No worries at all. Thanks for your comment. :)
Wrath0fKhan 9 months ago
OMG look at her nose, former punker?
Hermoor 9 months ago
watch as the views rocket after T-f00t thumbs up this video
isrealjason 9 months ago 9
Evil welcomes both rich and poor. Evil uses both rich and poor. Islam, Communists, Socialists, Progressives, the Ruling Elite..... they use the rich and the poor.
cowgirlmoon 9 months ago
Christine is telling you the bottom line of Islam and this is absolutely true.
mediawatchable 9 months ago
Christine in this interview is 100% right!
Aid to Pakistan is an Islamic bussiness, Lashkeri Tobia are well educated because they studied in Indian Kashmir.
ambardarlane 9 months ago 27
@STOKKKlD
Couldn't have said it better. Great comment!
GammaSigmaBeta 9 months ago 3
They are correct, but what they missed the most is the education level, lower the education level, higher the chances of being spun up in the Islamic Ismanist
IslamistTube2 9 months ago 38
@IslamistTube2 A painful reminder of just how religion depends on ignorance to survive.
GluttonForSex 9 months ago
@IslamistTube2 That's not true. Study after study has shown that Islamic terrorists are usually the most educated among there peers. This is true in the case of the 9/11 hijackers or in the case of fort hood.
Drgamedood 8 months ago
@Drgamedood
"among their peers"
Indeed... Literally sold to and brainwashed in revivalist madaris.
See: watch?v=n39ldKnBPVw
"hijackers"
Those were attacking "high profile" targets. She correctly identifies these and or similar instances in her exposé.
"fort hood"
That one was a so called "inspired" lone gun man. Yet another category to be accounted for.
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Drgamedood please feel free to point any study to back your claim, I would love to examine the merits.
IslamistTube2 8 months ago
@IslamistTube2 I just gave you two examples. All of the 9/11 hijackers were college educated. Many of them had Ph'D's. None lived in poverty. Quite the contrary actually. Many of them lived within wealthy saudi families.
Drgamedood 8 months ago
@Drgamedood
"gave you two examples"
Examples of so called high profile targets being attacked by "high profile" terrorists. Just as the good lady identified in her exposé. Yet those examples dont support your thesis. I gave you counter examples. And believe it or not, most recorded attacks are not delivered against high profile targets, but rather against common people (literally in busy market streets of Pakistans cities, terrorizing of simple Afghani villagers, farmers, etc.).
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan I'm not disagreeing with you here, wrathofkhan. I believe that it is a total myth that the cause of Islamic terrorism is poverty, economics, or politics.
Drgamedood 8 months ago
@Drgamedood Poverty, economics and politics are part of terrorism, but many factors play into Islamic terrorism, most pronounced is simple indoctrination into a false belief of God and blindly following writing in a book.
IslamistTube2 8 months ago
@Drgamedood
1. Wealth certainly does not equate intellect.
2. Anyone who flies planes into buildings to kill innocent people in the name of a dogma "religion", is an ABSOLUTE sign of not intellect. It does not take intelligence to grab a gun and kill innocent people. Hasan was a failed MD and he knew it. Clearly his lack of intelligence put him where he is now.
Your argument solidify my point.
IslamistTube2 8 months ago
@IslamistTube2 1) I know that. I never even implied that it did.
2) My point was that most liberals and apologists will say it's actually their lack of education and not their religion that's the cause of their behavior. But that doesn't make any sense. Given that many terrorists have at the minumum, a college education.
Drgamedood 8 months ago
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@Drgamedood 1. Wealth certainly does not equate intellect.
2. Anyone who flies planes into buildings to kill innocent people in the name of a dogma "religion", is an ABSOLUTE sign of not intellect. It does not take intelligence to grab a gun and kill innocent people. Hasan was a failed MD and he knew it. Clearly his lack of intelligence put him where he is now.
Your argument solidify my point.
IslamistTube2 8 months ago
@IslamistTube2 I agree, in principle. But some terrorists were highly educated, so this raises the question: What KIND of education would stop extremism. The only answer I could come up so far is: and educational system that emphasizes critical thinking and evidence based reasoning. More precisely, teaching philosophy :D
ahmedeox 8 months ago
@IslamistTube2 That explains why non of the 9/11 hijackers were university educated and why the most notorious Islamist of the last 50 years was not a member of the wealthiest private family in Saudi Arabia.
SpellboundSolution 8 months ago
@SpellboundSolution
No bro... "That" explains why vast majority of attacks were committed against low profiles targets, mostly killing people in developing countries (e.g. more than 90% of "Al-Qaeda and co" victims so far were mostly poor Muslims themselves ).
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan No sis... the point is that wealth has nothing to do with it. The attacks are carried out based upon Islamic instruction, the better educated they are in Islam the greater threat they are.
SpellboundSolution 8 months ago
@SpellboundSolution
"the point is that wealth has nothing to do with it"
Without wealth you cant afford studying at prestigious "western universities", right? Hence certain wealth component is there, br0, whether you like it or not.
"islamic instruction"
Something like that, indeed. Yet thats not the point of contention here.
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@SpellboundSolution
"the greater threat they are"
Greater threat for whom? For the better educated "West"? Again, vast majority of perpetrators and victims are poor Muslims (obliterated by poor Muslims).
Maybe you believe that we here in the "West" are by definition "high profile targets". Since Id consider myself an "elitist exceptionalist", "cultural non-relativist", Id agree with such a proposition.
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan To all those who don't want to live under a worldwide Islamic caliphate, the one that God told Mohamed to establish. Since God missed Australasia and America while looking at his globe (he has bad eye sight) there is nothing about those continents in the Koran, but those most sincere to the religion of Islam are seeking to create that caliphate. I'm sure most Muslims don't want it, but their religion does.
SpellboundSolution 8 months ago
@SpellboundSolution
"Im sure mot Muslim dont want it"
Im not so sure at all. Example:
The Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project
Pakistani Public Opinion Poll
Released: August 13, 2009
78% favour death for those who leave Islam;
80% favour whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery;
83% favour stoning adulterers.
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan You've lost me now. Which side are you on exactly?
SpellboundSolution 8 months ago
@SpellboundSolution
"youve lost me now"
No... You are lost, bro. ;-)
"which side are you on exactly"
On the side of "modernity" of course.
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan I see sis, you're on the side of talking meaningless bollocks.
SpellboundSolution 8 months ago
@SpellboundSolution
Are you in the need of sexual realignment or something? I can help...
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago