Another problem with corporatism is that companies are often given exemptions from certain statutes. For example, The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 made it so that all employers must provide some form of health insurance for their workers. Several large corporations, namely mcdonalds, and the United Agricultural Benefit trust were given exemptions. Guess Who picks up the tab for these poor underpaid workers? Us of course. The US needs to do a better job defending people.
Thank you so much. I live in the United States and a report from the Congressional Budget Office found over 100 billion dollars in missed revenue from businesses. The US spends about 60 billion dollars on the SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and about 20 billion on direct welfare payments. In a time when we are running a deficit in excess of 1 trillion dollars, that much revenue shouldn't be let go.
The poverty trap could be overcome by protectionism and credit controls to stop companies developed here, from moving to slave-production in the Far East. We then have to regulate banking and create a government credit system of money, as opposed to the financier oligarch's Bank of England. Added to that, creating a superior education system, not one that dumbs children down or bores them to death, will develop the youngs creative minds - hence more productivity.
I enjoyed your video ;) Especially the part about the Elite being the biggest parasites!!!! What exactly does the Royal family do for their money?....And how many hedge fund managers do anything but shuffle a bunch of numbers around and rob investors by betting on companies collapsing and then manipulating the market to make sure it happens...which is exactly what caused the current crisis..kind of like betting on a sporting event and then bribing some of the players to throw the game...
The welfare state is the biggest problem in the world today. In the UK, USA, New Zealand, pretty much everywhere it exists, it causes huge problems.
Welfare = dependancy, idlesness, anti-social behaviour, illiteracy, higher crime, higher need for immigrants(which in turn leads to higher social cohesion and racial problems) unhealthy and uneducated children, depression, violence.
A huge number of ppl on welfare are criminals, it's like we fund the lifestyles of the ppl who make life hard.
Fulltime jobs for everyone, theres many of folk who never will work as they dont want to & dont need to. The state provides very well for these people who are allowed to get away with this by a succession of Governments. School lunches perhaps mum and dad could pay instead of spening on chips, fags & booze. Kids in poverty are there because their parents put them there.
Ant its SRILANKA, are you from a working family or a totally supported by the welfare state family, I've asked you once or twice and you still havnt answered.
The lazy welfare type family robs from the taxpayer too, many of the working folks on plenty of money are earning this cash as they work for this. A welfare state supported family get their money for doing nothing! Am I right or wrong?
Hi Ant its SRILANKA. Got your message just didnt think you were interesting enough to look into your channel that deeply. I bet your dad tells the tax man about every single penny he earns eh just to make sure the poor get their cut. NOT! If I was him I'd declare about 25% of what I earned as he's the one busting his nuts to pay for the pramfaces out there eh mate. PS Sorry for being a pain in the bum!
@09SRILANKA I don't support tax on income, I support a flat tax on land and wealth, In this country 6000 people own 69% of the land and they don't have to contribute anything to society at all. You talk about earning wealth? I'd be surprised if most of these elites have ever lifted a finger in their life. But of course I forgot, you don't are about people being lazy as long as they are rich, you just hate poor people.
@RevolutionaryJam I guess you hit the nail on the head, I do hate the lazy free 4 all mum & dad with 5 kids milking the country for every penny, dad with bad back but just lazy realy. Lets face it would have to get a job paying £700 a week just to equal what they would get from the state. So if you think this type deserve an equal share you need to head looking at. When you get your land make sure you share it out with a single mum & her runts!
Thanks for sending me a video - but every time I tried to read he message you sent it disappeared! I am a great Ron Paul supporter as well and tried to go on his march the other year but they changed the date of the march after I'd booked my trip! Alaistair Darling looks so plastic - someone said he looks like a pupet from "Thunderbirds"! You make some good points here by the way!
@Intangible88 thankyou for your imput! I also appreciate Ron Paul's work but I'm not as "conservative" as him,
I hope this video provides a compromise for right and left which is better than the present system from the point of view of both sides of the political spectrum!
This is why, for example, Polish immigrants come and work here. Their average house price is k£40, their average wage a quarter of the UK.
They only have to beaver away for a few years in the UK, sending their money home to buy a house. Another words, they have the advantage of UK wages and Polish house prices.
If a British guy on the dole could work and buy a house outright within a few years I think we would see a much more enthusiastic attitude to work.
@zurich1935 yes you're right, it can't last forever though because that money then circulates in the polish economy, so you have the person who buys the house, then the person who sells it has the money to spend, then the people he buys things from etc. which enriches their economy until it isn't so far behind then there is less incentive to emigrate
97% of Polish immigrants to the UK are employed within a year, 100% within two years.
@RevolutionaryJam That's all true enough, what I don't like is that the Polish immigrants are enriching themselves and their country at the expense of working class British who have to compete with the immigrants for jobs and housing. We now have to wait until their economy levels with ours, meanwhile we have 2.5 million unemployed and no let-up in immigration.
@zurich1935 what is your proposed solution to the unemployment crisis? I really don't think that stopping immigration would help, we live in a market where companies can go to any country they want to take advantage of cheap labour, but at the same time we want to put restrictions on what workers can and can't do to take adantage of better workers
I think polish people unfortunately have a better work ethic encultured than British people thats why the find it so easy to get jobs, am I wrong?
@RevolutionaryJam Stopping immigration would help, simply google this phrase:
"Nearly every one of 1.67m jobs created since 1997 has gone to a foreigner"
What you say is true, we live in a market where companies can go to any country they want to take advantage of cheap labour, a perfect case is Cadburys in Poland. However, shop jobs, restaurant and pub jobs, leisure industry and many other jobs done by immigrants can't be exported
"I really don't think that stopping immigration would help"
Stopping immigration would help, but don't take my word for it, simply google *1.67m jobs created since 1997*
"we live in a market where companies can go to any country they want to take advantage of cheap labour"
There are millions of jobs that can't be done in other countries, bars, shops, hotels and restaurant, these jobs are taken by immigrants when we have millions unemployed.
@RevolutionaryJam "I think polish people unfortunately have a better work ethic encultured than British people thats why the find it so easy to get jobs, am I wrong?"
I don't think the Polish don't have a better work ethic, they are simply hugely motivated by the opportunity to earn 4 times the wages that they could earn back home. If the British could earn 4 times as much in Poland I think you would see them with just as much enthusiasm as the Poles show here.
I think the 10% tax band also applied to the rich, the band applied to everybody's income?
The poverty trap clearly exists. Also there is a clear disincentive to work for the national minimum wage for anyone who is a permanent UK resident. If we say that the minimum wage is £12500 p.a. that is approx 8% of the average £160,000 house price. Therefore you would have to save every penny (not eating, renting or paying tax) for 12 or 13 years to buy a house.
I believe that corporatism is the state providing public funds and favours to corporations, if you disagree with my definition please by all means correct it
What do you define corporatism and state capitalism as?
that is state capitalism, or a form of it. Corporatism is completely different, very similar to the fascist economic vision. "corporatism" predates the concept of a business corporation. Just look at the wikipea article about corporatism.
Something for nothing? what kind of system is that, all it's resulted in, is millions of yobs claiming dole, getting their grotty little housing, and destroying the communities they're in. These people have no incentive or ambition to work, so many end up criminals, anti-social, druggies, alchoholics, because they have NOTHING else to do, they are pure filth. People should WORK for welfare, give back to society, get used to hard work.
The queen's money is from investments, which hedges against risk. Moneylenders provide money for people who need it lent. If moneylenders didn't do anything, then people wouldn't use their services. People only make a trade if they think what they get is as valuable or more valuable than what they paid.
and landowners don't do nothing, they hedge against the high cost of land use. People rent because land is expensive and they don't want/need to buy it for their purposes.
Theres folk on welfare £who have been on them for many years, its not fair that sum people get income support, sick £, rent, council tax, dental, prescriptions, school lunch & just about everything you can think of. Its a gravy train like no other.
large families are on lots of money & this makes a mockery of working. Some of the high earners are there as they got themselves there by grafting. Many folk are on handouts which equal working for a living so whats the attraction in work.
that basic income system would fail badly due to the same reason our current system does, if you have people on a steady dole like basic income, many will work for cash and keep their benefits as well. so you'd have many taking but not putting back in. only way to avoid that is by going to a cashless society, which would host a whole other whirlwind of problems. there is no easy solution, but the most promising is removing government from peoples private lives.
@RevolutionaryJam , i don't belive any welfare system will ever be perfect. the only way it could be perfect is if it didn't exist. but that's just my opinion.
ok a better taxing system ... tax anything and everything people own but dont directly use for twelve months.... now this targets the wealthy people... right now the middle class pays all the taxes but the wealthy dont pay nothin this way u can target the upper class in the society that have millions in the banks and lay of the working class for abit fair distribution of wealth ... hell fair taxing of wealth
Don't advocate the welfare state unless you personally feel comfortable pointing the gun. The "underlying principles" of "wealth redistribution" consist of violence, violence, and more violence.
You own your hand. Your hand belongs to you. I can not justly cut off your hand and claim it for myself. Similarily, your arms, legs, brain, and indeed, all of your body parts belong to you exclusively. To accept as an axiom that I may not justly cut off your leg and claim it for myself, then the logic that necessarily follows is that since you own your faculties, what you produce with those faculties belongs to you exclusively.
But we weren't talking about property rights. My point is that the second you bring the gun into an argument, the argument ceases to be an argument. A gun is not an argument. When considering the question, "how should children be educated?", I would take a pluralistic approach that there is no single correct way. If you were to say, "we could point guns at people and throw anyone who disagrees into the rape rooms of prison", you have immediately lost all credibility.
the banks are robing the people, guys be alert !!, this country is being robed, all that money is going to the carebean and other countries and paradise contries. lets fight for our rights, and lets fight against those ruling mafias, people have the right to earn the welfare money, give people the chance to work . he gave a good idea, people should have the right to earn money from work and welfare sistem
In Germany we already have 3 Parties thinking about this kind of system.I hope it will become reality one day.Else one day 50 percent of all people would work in 400 Euro Jobs and besides get Wellfare like already 7 Million do.Peace to all
the ridiculous thing is the idea has been around for DECADES and whether on the right or left one can not help but agree that it is far better than the system that is currently in place
you are right, corporatism is one of our biggest problems, if not the biggest!! I'm totally against the bailouts- but I'm sure you guessed that. You are right too, we don't have a choice when it comes to choosing a candidate(at least in America), they don't really want to change things. Also about changing the system- our system in America right now will fail so we need to move tward something else or some other system.
if benefits were stopped you would probably have a huge increase of crime ,social unrest and the nhs would probably be more strained than it is now and anyway 90% of the worlds wealth is in 10% of the population if many of British workers just stopped and went on benefits immigration would probably sort out that problem.
I agree I think having some form of welfare state is important for a progressive society, and often it benefits everyone by reducing crime and the other points you have said. There seems to be a big movement in America just now towards abolishing welfare, but the amount governments spend on welfare is minimal compared to war and on corporate hand-outs!
If everyone receives from the government a "basic income", and government raises funds through taxes, then you would have to tax the same amount of the income in order to give it "back" to the individual.
That is, unless you print massive amounts of money. And that would single-handidly destroy any economy.
no, to clarify, if you are in work your basic income is EITHER a tax allowance (a discount on your tax) or paid by direct debit into your bank account, no printing of money involved
Ok Jesus Jam, 3 things you're dead wrong on (forgive me Father.)
1) No capable person is ENTITLED to a living in a free society. The only people who deserve a govt. handout are orphans, the disabled, and the insane. In other words, people who can't earn a living.
2) "Labor" is a devisive term created by collectivists. Anyone who earns money works to earn it. Beating the stock market involves brain-work.
3) Money earned via brain-work or inheritence is legitimate. Don't be a hater.
1) in your opinion, many societies have collectively agreed by majority and popular support to offer people entitlements, it's called civilisation
2) bollocks, some people don't earn it they receive it through exploiting others, often using the state. brain-work, or in most cases rigging the system.
Jam, no, that's called socialism, not civilization. Just because most people, at the moment, think that socialism is a swell concept, doesn't make it so. Democracy is bascially mob-rule, which is why the founding fathers created a "Republic" in America, not a democracy.
What is your definition of "exploit?" Employing free people at an agreed upon wage is not exploitation, because both parties agreed to the terms, and the employee is free to quit at any time.
what about all the people contributing no labour and profitting from it?
You have a company with 40 workers on the floor that work 40 hours each and you buy a machine that does 120 hours of work, capitalism says 3 people go unemployed, socialism says everyone does 37 hours work instead,
Jam, I guess you just eliminated any doubts people may have about you being a socialist. Machines replacing people in factories? Too bad, that's progress.
Many people lost jobs in Buggy Whip factories with the advent of the automobile. Should we scrap our cars and start driving horse & buggies again?
it's not an either you are or you aren't issue you know, life isn't all black and white and I'm not a socialist on all issues and if I was, so what? I know a lot of good people on the left
You show your love of building your own prison, everyone will have to suffer from the philosophy you are promoting when instead everyone could benefit
We should make cars as durable as possible to protect the environment and put more people in work that is engaging and skilled, as recommended by the vid
One more thing Jam, those 3 people who lost their factory job could get trained and become repairmen for the machines that took away their jobs. New technology may eliminate certain jobs, but that technology creates new job opportunites. The economy is always expanding.
sure thats a fair point in some instances but they need the resources to get that kind of training and maybe only one of them will be needed, you can't guarantee that they will get full benefit
having an ever expanding economy is dangerous because we live on a planet with finite resources, there are lots of jobs in cutting down forests and polluting the environemnt but since the market only does what is remunerated there really aren't that many in repairing habitats beyond charity, it's wrong
There are no guarantees in life. The world is full of risks, and government can't change that, no matter how hard they try.
Yes, resources are finite, but so are people. One day we may no longer have a use for wood, but we currently do, so we grow trees. Things change. Demand for one resource is stong today, but may be nonexistant tomorrow. Hopefully oil will be in that category in our lifetimes.
3) in your opinion, most people would agree that it depends on the nature of the brain work, if it is tricking people or using the system or the man made entity of a "corporation" which has man-made entitlements exceeding those of individuals, to exploit others it isn't legitimate even though it's legal
Jam, making money through fraud or from corporate welfare is wrong. I'm talking about honest, fair brain-work. Entrepreneurs who see a need in the marketplace, and use their intelligence and creativity to satisfy that need.
Ebay, Amazon, Starbucks, McDonalds, Kodak, Dell, are just a few stellar examples.
I have no problem with entrepreneurialism, my dad is one, I have a problem with people living off the backs of others by gaining all their income from "rent" and usury
which rewards having money and punishes having none
the problem with consumerism is when everyone stops buying useless crap they don't need the system collapses, it's better to have a system that provides people with the basic necessities of life before deferring to the market place to distribute goods
So what should we do Jam, reward people for having no money? How do we do that? And, if you reward a behavior, you get more of it. If you paid people $1 each time they picked their nose, nobody would have a nose anymore.
There's markets for crap, and there's markets for things people can't do without, like food, clothes, gasoline, etc, and those markets will never go away, unlike the market for....say, overpriced Starbucks coffee.
manufacturing medical supplies (Frank Sammeroff Ltd. can find it online)
Before you said "No capable person is ENTITLED to a living in a free society..." unless they are orphans, disabled or insane,
I'm say it's UNFAIR to ONLY give people a living in society when they are orphans, disabled or insane... the only fair option is to give eveyone a basic living :- didn't you watch the video? it proposed an alternative to the current welfare system that was equitable to all
Re: "If you reward a behavior, you get more of it" If thats your philosophy why do you want more orphans, insane and disabled people?
Limiting property rights IS NOT an infringement of liberties, unlimited property rights DO NOT EXIST IN NATURE
If an animal doesn't finish eating a corpse something else comes and eats it, if a family of birds move to a bigger nest they cannot charge another family rent to live in the old one while they are gone
Jesus Christ Jam, you've got to keep up with the comments instead of dumping all this crap on me at once. Anyway, being an orphan, insane, or disabled aren't behaviors, they're unfortunate conditions some people are in, not because of anything they did. It's like being right-handed, it just happens to you.
Being a poor, lazy, bum is a chosen behavior, so if you give someone free money just for choosing to be a lazy unproductive sack of shit, he will keep on living that way.
most people on welfare aren't just lazy, it's unfortunate if there are some like that but they will have a very minimal standard of living as a consequence so there will still be an incentive to work, there are some ares where employment is simply unavailable and all the moeny has to go on goods produced elsewhere so it doesn't stay in the community to provide jobs, that is an unfortunate condition that can happen to you
Jam, we've got GENERATIONS of people here on welfare. They make a career out of it, and pass it on to their kids. I've seen it many times, people on welfare refuse to take a job because they would lose their handouts, which are almost as much, or sometimes more, than they would make at a minimum wage job.
So, they choose to remain in poverty for years instead of working their way up the employment ladder like they should. Can you say opportunities lost?
sure it's wrong for someone to stay on welfare if they have the ability to work unless they are re-training or preparing to return, but that shows a corruption in the system that allows them to sign on when they don't need to, not in the concept itself
corporate fraud, crime and welfare cost FAR MORE money than layabouts by a factor of god knows how many and that is a common enemy of the left and the right, why can't we tackle those issues first before demonising the unsophisticated?
I say end all welfare, period. If a corporation taking free taxpayer money angers you, then so should a lazy sack of shit working the system. They are both parasites.
Are there some honest hard working people who occasionally need help? Yes, but that's what private charities are for. The government can't be trusted with our money. Their track record is a disaster.
Birds have bird-brains and are unable to comprehend the concept of money. If they could, they would also use money, and enjoy richer lives because of it, as humans do.
you mean the ones who were lucky enough, the rest of the birds would live poorer lives because they'd have to pay rent to the select few who happened to "own" all their nests, or otherwise keep having to pay a "mortgage" for the majority of their lives just to own their own nests by the time they're ready to fall down from the sky
it's a good debate dude and we both argue strongly but at the end of the day I think we fundamentally disagree on the kind of society we'd like to live in x
Jam, have you ever owned a home? I do own a house, and let me tell you, it's not just because I was "lucky" enough, or that I "happen" to own a house. I own a house because I worked by ass off for it.
If you don't like paying rent, go work your ass off and buy your own house too. Houses don't grow on trees. If you want the use of one, you have to pay the fiddler.
You mean the money they EARNED from their portfolio. Being a successful investor takes intelligence and hard work. You can't simply roll the dice and expect to make a profit on a regular basis, you have to do your research, keep informed, and oh yes, work and save up the money to invest in the first place.
If an investor takes his profit, reinvests it, and makes more profit, BRAVO! Envy will get you nowhere in life, hippy. And, if being a successful investor was easy, everyone would be one.
One more thing hippy, nobody really owns their land in America (or the UK). The government simply allows you to use the land, as long as you pay the property taxes. If you stop, they seize your land and force you off at gun point.
Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.
Surely, the American property tax is very similar to the council tax that we pay in the U.K. It actually pays for all the local services, such as Fire, Police, Sewerage, Schools, etc.
So you do in fact own the land, but you are forced to pay for the services.
One last thing I just HAD to respond to. You want to know who is "living off the backs of others?" My neighbors next door, and people like them.
We own identical houses, pay the exact same property tax (much of which funds the socialist public schools), and guess what? I have ZERO kids, and they have 5 kids in the school system.
Raising kids (educating them is part of raising them) is the responsibility of the parents, and nobody else.
Capitalist property laws allow rich elites to hoard vast concentrations of land (which pushes the price up to ridiculously high levels).
Property Laws force people to become wage slaves to rent or buy back a tiny scrap of land.
Rich elites are also able to hog all the resources, denying us all access, a de facto theft.
Landless & without resources, people should be compensated. Socialism would have the very rich pay the taxes, Capitalism makes the working people pay.
Hey Rev...I do think that corporatism is just as bad as socialism.
Non-accountability (for when corporations fail) isn't part of a free-market. I don't believe a corporation can become a legal entity because you can't throw a corporation in prison when they fuck up.
I can't agree with your benefit system because the people dishing out the money will always abuse their cut.
Regarding your last question...I don't think the people should have been robbed in the first place.
I'm not in favor of government bailouts, of industries. Nor am I in favor of redistribution of wealth, and the welfare state. But you're right. People who believe in corporate bailouts and "corportatism" hide behind the vail of "free market." When theirs really nothing free market about it. And I really enjoy your videos regardless of our disagreements.
If you look at this Internet chat board and see the number of really cool leftists promoting their hate and intolerance of Amerika and the Bush regime, one would assume that we are the majority. Either that or many of us don't have jobs.
Really cool progressives question authority though the Internet. Some examples might be some really cool progressives like me and the Web Fairy, who question authority and have intellectual discussion on the fact that it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11. Bush needed 9/11 to launch his illegal war for oil, and it is only through the corporate controlled media telling us the false tale of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes that Bush and Cheney were able to launch their illegal war.
I am really stoked to see the other really cool progressives who post here questioning authority and letting people know that Bush Lies and People Dies.
I mostly agree with you. The "left vs right" thing is way old and stupid. People should stop defending parties and look at fundamental issues of justice.
Why advocate more welfare though? It's trying to fix symptoms instead of looking at the root of the problem. Major reform is needed, not band-aid solutions. Politicians use band-aid social programs to pose as heros and to make people dependent on them.
Power needs to decentralize. Money needs to be a free market. People need land.
don't you think it's good to live in a society where if someone loses their job they still get enough money to feed their family until they find another one?
I agree with what you are saying such as major reform is needed not band-aid solutions and people need land, but free markets can sometimes means more centralisation and land in the hands of fewer people because the people who own most of it get all the money to buy the rest
So long as there is someone is willing to pay, there will always be someone willing to collect...
If people are content in their oblivious appetites for superflous entertainment and willing to suck off the teat of government instead of actually producing something, they will continue to get nothing.
on the other side of the coin, a society based on the principal that someones only role is to produce something that someone else can consume so that they can consume things that other people produce is not a good foundation at all?
why? many reasons, it's dehumanising, encourages people to step on one another, and most importantly, if people stop buying useless junk they don't need everyone is out of a job!
also do you think that people who gain all their income from share dividends or rent while producing nothing are also sucking off the teat of society or do you apply a double standard?
well at least you acknowledge it! that is not easy for everyone to do
yes the government is to big but no one is doing anything about it so it's just going to get big and fat until it's so big and fat that no one can move anymore because it's big fat belly is crushing them and so they're forced to take a needle and pop the belly so it flies around the room like a ballon until it crashes to the ground with a thrrrrrrp!
The people whom you're talking about "sucking" are most probably deprived of land, credit, access to capital, etc. They can't print money like governments and bankers can. They can't manipulate whole economies and start wars and expropriate wealth through taxation, inflation, etc.
Just to exist on a PIECE OF GROUND you either have to pay tribute to a landlord or go into debt to a banker who "loans" you at interest fiat money that they created!
there is no government , just a bunch of inbred child raping and stealing dynasties that knock us like a mafia. their taunts are everywhere as the have an efficient and streamlined media gov machine.
zionist control our land, bought our schools to pimp and endoctranate our children. ever heard of rothchilds. a bunch of jews that funded hitlar and fucked his mum sis and daughter
I'm not sure about that, to be honest I think "equal opportunities" only reinforces a difference between people,
next thing we'll have equal opportunities forms to make sure people with ginger hair or darker eye colours are getting fair treatment, the extremities of such a policy is impossible to manage, and quite frankly pointless, the employer should be allowed to make any decision over who he employs.
You make a good argument for your welfare plan, you should run for office one day.
Let's say your plan pays everyone $1,000 per month, and I pay $5,000 annually in income tax, does that mean I will get a return of $7,000? You'd have to raise the hell out of takes to pay for the middle class rebates, not to mention the non-earner welfare.
PS. I totally agree about the needed synergy between the "left" and "right".
i don't know the specifics, but it's not my welfare plan, it's an idea that has been around for ages but hasn't got a fair share of media attention
we have PAYE rather than yearly tax returns here in the UK so it would be easier to implement, although I don't think you'd have to "raise the hell out of taxes", I think the plan would work out cheaper than the current one and more satisfactory.
to continue, here we have the opposite which is "tax credits", IE. the gov gathers in the funds and then gives a rebate to those families in need who have paid too much in tax, but thats silly, why do we need the government to take peoples money just to give it back to them?
Better make tax allowances so those people who are working pay less, or if they aren't earning they get their basic income as a cheque or payment into their bank account, it's just common sense.
Ant, I agree with you about corporate welfare; the bailouts of the airlines, for example make me absolutely sick. They treat their customers like crap, can't keep a schedule, and lose luggage all the time; then expect a handout from the taxpayers when their crap business fails.
But the free market in America is anything but free. I'm not a n economic anarchist, I believe in minimal government involvement; just enough to write and enforce antitrust laws.
indeed, airlines shouldn't be bailed out if their services aren't economic, this discourages investment in the rail industry which I believe was decemated in the US and hardly any freight goes on it, it's all in trucks, just like the UK.
Corporations have special powers and privileges over normal humans and private companies.
I believe if Corporation are outlawed, & their special privileges taken away, then the problem would be the entire world would sink down to lifestyle of mediocrity, like that in the Dark ages, coz then, without this corporate umbrella protecting them, not many ventures would be launched.
I'm not sure I agree, but it depends on the privelages in question... remember in granting someone or something a special privelage you undermine the freedom of everyone else,
I'd personally prefer a world where goods were made as locally as possible in the mainstay, this would keep everyone in work and would be environmentally sustainable.
Hi and thanks so much for the positive feedback it is very much appreciated, I also hope you enjoy more vids here in the future! By all means check out what else I've done so far so good and getting better I think + lots of input and debates with lovely people from all over the world :-D
thanks, I agree there are many of those who are jesusier than I, please pass that feedback on to all the people who have commented on my other videos saying nothing more than "you look like jesus" :-)
I think that your philosophy is very healthy and right on. Many people are waking up here in the U.S. and it is very important that Americans listen to the experiences in the UK because it reflects what is coming to the U.S. in policy etc. I am noticing that people are loosing their jobs and are trying to get out of debt to become more independent and inovative. Thank you for this video.
Yes, I totally agree, last year I researched allot from the UK and many of the citizens in your country are afflicted with the same civil rights violations according to their constitution and laws. I will highlight your videos more and urge people to favorite it and get the word out.
I am against corporatism and welfare. Mixing economy and government will just create corporate fascism unless everyone in government is "good". There are many problems that have been created by government elitists and their minion. Just taking money from the corrupt by the corrupt to give to the poor is a band-aid solution.If people need to stop being dependent on government and business to begin with. I would rather fund welfare then warfare though. I am at heart an anarchist anyways lol.
"people need to stop being dependent on government and business to begin with"
agreed but it's not gonna happen while all the resources are owned & controled by the select few, those resources are needed to fund community self sufficiency
Re:" unless everyone in government is good. "
This is why centralised gov has to be replaced with transparent local government. A completely economic libertarian society is one where a person is just a "unit" - their only function is produce & consume.
Libertarian society is when people have to be self responsible and live their own live. In a libertarian society you would probably see communities work together and like minded people gravitate towards one another like tribalism except modernized. There is a problem right now because of centralized power creating a gigantic mess. Although I will take smaller government over centralized government any day.
lovely ideally, but u still gotta produce something that others can consume so u can consume something that others produce in order to get fed, even if there isn't enough work to go around. The moment everyone stops buying useless shit they don't need the whole system breaks down which makes it useless, because thats exactly what we have to do. We have to stop buying useless shit we don't need.
also, a society with unlimited property rights will always lead to the wealth accelerating upwards.
Of course people will produce that is what people do. Property rights mean you have a solid foundation and will take care of their area. If you own land then you will take care of it and have a solid foundation to be free. There is no real private property today the government claims everything in it's territory is partially owned by it at least in the USA. We do have to stop buying useless shit I agree there.
what I mean is, as it stand all the shops down the road r owned by a proprieter, right?
They r leased out 2 shop owners. No matter what happens the proprieter gets paid 1st, even if the shop doesn't profit. He will charge as much rent as he knows they will pay, but he doesn't contribute any labour 2 the services they render,
Who does that benefit other than him? Not the shop owner as it cuts profits, not the employees as it eats their share, not the consumer as they have 2pay higher prices
thats a mute point really since he shouldn't own it in the first place, but I thought of it
The price of the land will generally be such that it is too expensive to be worth buying from the owner in the short term, the more valuable the land is to the shopowner the more the price of buying it will rise of course.
I just think there should be a limit to the amount of property someone owns to rent, it's really exploiting people if you own a whole block of flats etc.
Homesteading could solve the problem so people do not gobble up land. If land is not being used for productive purposes then it could be taken for living, business, or traveling across. That could work.
Perhaps, I discuss some more problems with a completely free market in the comments of the video response, maybe you will find them interesting and would like to give me your perspective on the points I raise?
I am thinking of homesteading. Selling the house and buying land and just homesteading. The system is dysfunctional, it does not even support renting a room, putting gas in a car etc. I am talking about necessity and not extravagance. People will have to be more sustainable. And, I also believe that food will be traded and bartered. Just like during the Great Depression.
I own a home and no one has the income to support paying a rent let alone utilities. There is no income. In CA yesterday a city declared bankruptcy. The EU, NAFTA, CAFTA, international private equity firms are bleeding all the people dry of any financial well being. Now, communities and cities will be subject to the same conditions. Enough is enough and I urge every citizen to find out what banks that the community or city owes money too and who owns the bank!!!!!!!!
In my village, I am finding that one man is buying up everything. And, in communities prior to 911 I found ponzi scams going on where one buys into a community at an inflated price, borrows money from the banks and then repeats the same somewhere else. This breaks up the community because those with "community in mind" content that plan on living there cannot. It drives up the taxes, the community probably borrows money to run the community based on these inflated values. The banks allow it.
I am sure on that. The banking system is corrupt beyond belief. My town is being over run by people from the city. I rent from someone who lives like 3 hours away in NYC. It is next to a graveyard which makes it cheaper then most apartments.
Yes, I am up by Woodstock, NY it is very crowded. Bloomberg created the flocking of people out of the city/raising rents, creating homelessness. I met people that have mstrs degrees and they were shifted to an area where there is no employment.
The employment if one is lucky is center related jobs. I am in Parsippany/NJ area living with my sister and temping at major corp to no avail. The economy is now the same as Upstate NY. I am much older than you and have allot of work experience. So do the best that you can do and remain positive. Try to get into hiking and enjoying your surroundings. If it is a graveyard, hey be thankful you are not there. Down the rd from me is a graveyard that looks like a steven king novel, lol.
Hah my graveyard is actually pretty nice looking so no King looking cemetery here lol. Times will be getting tough, but I am not that worried. If things get real bad then I am glad I do not live in the city.
hey zo1dberg, I appreciate alternative opinions and interpretations here, and your opinions are more than welcome but please keep it clean debate and be respectful of other posters, try not to make it personal please!
Good video i completely agree. We have the same welfare problem here in Quebec too. I agree with a system supporting everybody. Governments should start putting it into practice. It is something that would take some time. But if made possible would improve the current state of affairs. If this could be applied on a global scale it could solve world poverty. I am aware that that is a lot to hope for. But i do dream of one day living in a world where people are able to sustain themselves.
A certain segment in the US never tires of pointing out the so-called outrageous tax rates in many European countries, while failing to recognize that most of those countries also have a higher base income. The Federal minimum wage in the States is $7.25/hr. Ridiculous. Norway seems to have worked out a pretty good model and have what one could consider to be an enlightened populace, but I agree that other paradigms are needed.
I think most people would think the prices in Norway for goods are outrageous compared to our currency, thing is their incomes are so damn high they can afford it!
haha the last line is in reference to all the people who comment on my videos saying "duhhh you look like jesus" hahaha no harm in it tho
Another problem with corporatism is that companies are often given exemptions from certain statutes. For example, The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 made it so that all employers must provide some form of health insurance for their workers. Several large corporations, namely mcdonalds, and the United Agricultural Benefit trust were given exemptions. Guess Who picks up the tab for these poor underpaid workers? Us of course. The US needs to do a better job defending people.
VexingDaftJim1 7 months ago
Thank you so much. I live in the United States and a report from the Congressional Budget Office found over 100 billion dollars in missed revenue from businesses. The US spends about 60 billion dollars on the SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and about 20 billion on direct welfare payments. In a time when we are running a deficit in excess of 1 trillion dollars, that much revenue shouldn't be let go.
VexingDaftJim1 7 months ago
The poverty trap could be overcome by protectionism and credit controls to stop companies developed here, from moving to slave-production in the Far East. We then have to regulate banking and create a government credit system of money, as opposed to the financier oligarch's Bank of England. Added to that, creating a superior education system, not one that dumbs children down or bores them to death, will develop the youngs creative minds - hence more productivity.
528hertz 11 months ago
I enjoyed your video ;) Especially the part about the Elite being the biggest parasites!!!! What exactly does the Royal family do for their money?....And how many hedge fund managers do anything but shuffle a bunch of numbers around and rob investors by betting on companies collapsing and then manipulating the market to make sure it happens...which is exactly what caused the current crisis..kind of like betting on a sporting event and then bribing some of the players to throw the game...
santomon07 1 year ago
The welfare state is the biggest problem in the world today. In the UK, USA, New Zealand, pretty much everywhere it exists, it causes huge problems.
Welfare = dependancy, idlesness, anti-social behaviour, illiteracy, higher crime, higher need for immigrants(which in turn leads to higher social cohesion and racial problems) unhealthy and uneducated children, depression, violence.
A huge number of ppl on welfare are criminals, it's like we fund the lifestyles of the ppl who make life hard.
JusticeSeeker1000 1 year ago
Fulltime jobs for everyone, theres many of folk who never will work as they dont want to & dont need to. The state provides very well for these people who are allowed to get away with this by a succession of Governments. School lunches perhaps mum and dad could pay instead of spening on chips, fags & booze. Kids in poverty are there because their parents put them there.
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
Ant its SRILANKA, are you from a working family or a totally supported by the welfare state family, I've asked you once or twice and you still havnt answered.
The lazy welfare type family robs from the taxpayer too, many of the working folks on plenty of money are earning this cash as they work for this. A welfare state supported family get their money for doing nothing! Am I right or wrong?
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
don't be a bloody pain Srilanka you can tell perfectly well from my accent and the fact that I'm an elloquent speaker that I'm painfully middleclass
my dad still runs his own business in his 70s
I'm a piano tutor and a student of music and philosophy which you could have found out anywhere on this channel by looking into the conversations
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam.
Hi Ant its SRILANKA. Got your message just didnt think you were interesting enough to look into your channel that deeply. I bet your dad tells the tax man about every single penny he earns eh just to make sure the poor get their cut. NOT! If I was him I'd declare about 25% of what I earned as he's the one busting his nuts to pay for the pramfaces out there eh mate. PS Sorry for being a pain in the bum!
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
@09SRILANKA I don't support tax on income, I support a flat tax on land and wealth, In this country 6000 people own 69% of the land and they don't have to contribute anything to society at all. You talk about earning wealth? I'd be surprised if most of these elites have ever lifted a finger in their life. But of course I forgot, you don't are about people being lazy as long as they are rich, you just hate poor people.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam I guess you hit the nail on the head, I do hate the lazy free 4 all mum & dad with 5 kids milking the country for every penny, dad with bad back but just lazy realy. Lets face it would have to get a job paying £700 a week just to equal what they would get from the state. So if you think this type deserve an equal share you need to head looking at. When you get your land make sure you share it out with a single mum & her runts!
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
Fuck you you tube! I hate you, sometimes.
Tomcaatt 1 year ago
Thanks for sending me a video - but every time I tried to read he message you sent it disappeared! I am a great Ron Paul supporter as well and tried to go on his march the other year but they changed the date of the march after I'd booked my trip! Alaistair Darling looks so plastic - someone said he looks like a pupet from "Thunderbirds"! You make some good points here by the way!
Intangible88 1 year ago
@Intangible88 thankyou for your imput! I also appreciate Ron Paul's work but I'm not as "conservative" as him,
I hope this video provides a compromise for right and left which is better than the present system from the point of view of both sides of the political spectrum!
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
This is why, for example, Polish immigrants come and work here. Their average house price is k£40, their average wage a quarter of the UK.
They only have to beaver away for a few years in the UK, sending their money home to buy a house. Another words, they have the advantage of UK wages and Polish house prices.
If a British guy on the dole could work and buy a house outright within a few years I think we would see a much more enthusiastic attitude to work.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 yes you're right, it can't last forever though because that money then circulates in the polish economy, so you have the person who buys the house, then the person who sells it has the money to spend, then the people he buys things from etc. which enriches their economy until it isn't so far behind then there is less incentive to emigrate
97% of Polish immigrants to the UK are employed within a year, 100% within two years.
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam That's all true enough, what I don't like is that the Polish immigrants are enriching themselves and their country at the expense of working class British who have to compete with the immigrants for jobs and housing. We now have to wait until their economy levels with ours, meanwhile we have 2.5 million unemployed and no let-up in immigration.
zurich1935 1 year ago
@zurich1935 what is your proposed solution to the unemployment crisis? I really don't think that stopping immigration would help, we live in a market where companies can go to any country they want to take advantage of cheap labour, but at the same time we want to put restrictions on what workers can and can't do to take adantage of better workers
I think polish people unfortunately have a better work ethic encultured than British people thats why the find it so easy to get jobs, am I wrong?
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
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@RevolutionaryJam Stopping immigration would help, simply google this phrase:
"Nearly every one of 1.67m jobs created since 1997 has gone to a foreigner"
What you say is true, we live in a market where companies can go to any country they want to take advantage of cheap labour, a perfect case is Cadburys in Poland. However, shop jobs, restaurant and pub jobs, leisure industry and many other jobs done by immigrants can't be exported
zurich1935 1 year ago
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@RevolutionaryJam
"I really don't think that stopping immigration would help"
Stopping immigration would help, but don't take my word for it, simply google *1.67m jobs created since 1997*
"we live in a market where companies can go to any country they want to take advantage of cheap labour"
There are millions of jobs that can't be done in other countries, bars, shops, hotels and restaurant, these jobs are taken by immigrants when we have millions unemployed.
zurich1935 1 year ago
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@RevolutionaryJam "I think polish people unfortunately have a better work ethic encultured than British people thats why the find it so easy to get jobs, am I wrong?"
I don't think the Polish don't have a better work ethic, they are simply hugely motivated by the opportunity to earn 4 times the wages that they could earn back home. If the British could earn 4 times as much in Poland I think you would see them with just as much enthusiasm as the Poles show here.
zurich1935 1 year ago
I think the 10% tax band also applied to the rich, the band applied to everybody's income?
The poverty trap clearly exists. Also there is a clear disincentive to work for the national minimum wage for anyone who is a permanent UK resident. If we say that the minimum wage is £12500 p.a. that is approx 8% of the average £160,000 house price. Therefore you would have to save every penny (not eating, renting or paying tax) for 12 or 13 years to buy a house.
zurich1935 1 year ago
you are thinking of state capitalism, not corporatism
shirtfag 1 year ago
I believe that corporatism is the state providing public funds and favours to corporations, if you disagree with my definition please by all means correct it
What do you define corporatism and state capitalism as?
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryJam
that is state capitalism, or a form of it. Corporatism is completely different, very similar to the fascist economic vision. "corporatism" predates the concept of a business corporation. Just look at the wikipea article about corporatism.
shirtfag 1 year ago
Welfare is destroying the world, not just the UK.
Something for nothing? what kind of system is that, all it's resulted in, is millions of yobs claiming dole, getting their grotty little housing, and destroying the communities they're in. These people have no incentive or ambition to work, so many end up criminals, anti-social, druggies, alchoholics, because they have NOTHING else to do, they are pure filth. People should WORK for welfare, give back to society, get used to hard work.
JusticeSeeker1000 2 years ago
I'm also no fan of people abusing the welfare system, but why such venom?
Lots of people get something for nothing, including the Queen of England, moneylenders and landowners
I agree that the wronge incentives are in place but ambition is not only down to person drive but child-rearing factors, is it not?
Drug use is linked to trauma induced factors & chemical imbalances in the brain
Also I am not adverst to people having to do community service for welfare, there is plenty to be done
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
The queen's money is from investments, which hedges against risk. Moneylenders provide money for people who need it lent. If moneylenders didn't do anything, then people wouldn't use their services. People only make a trade if they think what they get is as valuable or more valuable than what they paid.
and landowners don't do nothing, they hedge against the high cost of land use. People rent because land is expensive and they don't want/need to buy it for their purposes.
shirtfag 1 year ago
If they don't have jobs then community service would be a great idea.
CrkAtk 1 year ago
why should anyone not have a job though?
We have forests to replant, an eco system to repair, old people that need company, children who want to learn skills they can use in life
we could turn the dessert green with enough work
colonise mars
there is plenty to do, why not have it done?
RevolutionaryJam 1 year ago
You have saved me having to write a word. Your thread sums up a lost country...Britain!
When the welfare system stops there will be civil wars here. Stopping free money would be the flashpoint!
LabRat6619 1 year ago
Theres folk on welfare £who have been on them for many years, its not fair that sum people get income support, sick £, rent, council tax, dental, prescriptions, school lunch & just about everything you can think of. Its a gravy train like no other.
large families are on lots of money & this makes a mockery of working. Some of the high earners are there as they got themselves there by grafting. Many folk are on handouts which equal working for a living so whats the attraction in work.
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
that basic income system would fail badly due to the same reason our current system does, if you have people on a steady dole like basic income, many will work for cash and keep their benefits as well. so you'd have many taking but not putting back in. only way to avoid that is by going to a cashless society, which would host a whole other whirlwind of problems. there is no easy solution, but the most promising is removing government from peoples private lives.
jheetman 2 years ago
to be honest it is less abusable than the current system and so your point suffers from the "perfectionist fallacy" of philosophy
the current system serves those who want as many people as possible to be dependent on the state
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
@RevolutionaryJam , i don't belive any welfare system will ever be perfect. the only way it could be perfect is if it didn't exist. but that's just my opinion.
jheetman 1 year ago
Marxist tripe.
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago
yes I see how you've managed to counter each of the points I was making with that sweeping statement. Good political philosophy there.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
You're points have been thoroughly refuted in the past. All they deserve now are ridicule.
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago
it's not very marxist either.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
ok a better taxing system ... tax anything and everything people own but dont directly use for twelve months.... now this targets the wealthy people... right now the middle class pays all the taxes but the wealthy dont pay nothin this way u can target the upper class in the society that have millions in the banks and lay of the working class for abit fair distribution of wealth ... hell fair taxing of wealth
someguy198949 2 years ago
Don't advocate the welfare state unless you personally feel comfortable pointing the gun. The "underlying principles" of "wealth redistribution" consist of violence, violence, and more violence.
LastTrueLiberal 2 years ago
Yeah? and what are the "underlying principles" of "protecting property rights"?
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
You own your hand. Your hand belongs to you. I can not justly cut off your hand and claim it for myself. Similarily, your arms, legs, brain, and indeed, all of your body parts belong to you exclusively. To accept as an axiom that I may not justly cut off your leg and claim it for myself, then the logic that necessarily follows is that since you own your faculties, what you produce with those faculties belongs to you exclusively.
LastTrueLiberal 2 years ago
well your argument falls down on first premise. You don't own your hand you have it.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
It's a principle called "personal sovereignty", "self ownership", "nonaggression", or, simply, consistency with empirically observable reality.
LastTrueLiberal 2 years ago
But we weren't talking about property rights. My point is that the second you bring the gun into an argument, the argument ceases to be an argument. A gun is not an argument. When considering the question, "how should children be educated?", I would take a pluralistic approach that there is no single correct way. If you were to say, "we could point guns at people and throw anyone who disagrees into the rape rooms of prison", you have immediately lost all credibility.
LastTrueLiberal 2 years ago
"the argument ceases to be an argument"
When he mentions George Galloway...
bettertobealive 2 years ago
The welfare state is a VIOLENT MONOPOLY. It achieves its ends through COERCION. The welfare state can not exist without GUNS AND PRISONS.
LastTrueLiberal 2 years ago
neither can someone own a house he doesn't live in without guns and prisons.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
To StewartBrasil - if you are actually from Brazil then your english is brilliant and I'm sorry for laughing at your spelling.
IAmTheResurrection2 3 years ago
thanks for your complement. is good to know that my english is good
StewartBrasil 3 years ago
the banks are robing the people, guys be alert !!, this country is being robed, all that money is going to the carebean and other countries and paradise contries. lets fight for our rights, and lets fight against those ruling mafias, people have the right to earn the welfare money, give people the chance to work . he gave a good idea, people should have the right to earn money from work and welfare sistem
StewartBrasil 3 years ago
Hurray! We're all getting free clothes? From the banks?? Brilliant! Let the "robing" of the nation begin - free robes everyone!
(yes I'm aware sarcasm (and laughing at other people's inability to spell) is the lowest form of wit. couldn't resist though).
IAmTheResurrection2 3 years ago
the banks bonuses surpassed 1 bilion £ this year alone , while milions are unenployed earning 50 £ a week, fuck those government people
StewartBrasil 3 years ago
Stop kidding yourself.
Here is a free thought: There is NO left or right.
Ron Paul is a luciferian (satanist).
Fuck the freemasons and Fuck ron paul.
MrDuffy81 3 years ago
great work,i agree to 100 percent.Thank you!
In Germany we already have 3 Parties thinking about this kind of system.I hope it will become reality one day.Else one day 50 percent of all people would work in 400 Euro Jobs and besides get Wellfare like already 7 Million do.Peace to all
systemchange 3 years ago
danke!
the ridiculous thing is the idea has been around for DECADES and whether on the right or left one can not help but agree that it is far better than the system that is currently in place
kind regards
tchuss
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
you are right, corporatism is one of our biggest problems, if not the biggest!! I'm totally against the bailouts- but I'm sure you guessed that. You are right too, we don't have a choice when it comes to choosing a candidate(at least in America), they don't really want to change things. Also about changing the system- our system in America right now will fail so we need to move tward something else or some other system.
collapseofthedollar 3 years ago
Mussulini is rumoured to have described fascism as the perfect merging of state and business
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
i know. scary shit!!
collapseofthedollar 3 years ago
if benefits were stopped you would probably have a huge increase of crime ,social unrest and the nhs would probably be more strained than it is now and anyway 90% of the worlds wealth is in 10% of the population if many of British workers just stopped and went on benefits immigration would probably sort out that problem.
stusr1988 3 years ago
I agree I think having some form of welfare state is important for a progressive society, and often it benefits everyone by reducing crime and the other points you have said. There seems to be a big movement in America just now towards abolishing welfare, but the amount governments spend on welfare is minimal compared to war and on corporate hand-outs!
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Wait a second...
If everyone receives from the government a "basic income", and government raises funds through taxes, then you would have to tax the same amount of the income in order to give it "back" to the individual.
That is, unless you print massive amounts of money. And that would single-handidly destroy any economy.
ijust1 3 years ago
no, to clarify, if you are in work your basic income is EITHER a tax allowance (a discount on your tax) or paid by direct debit into your bank account, no printing of money involved
thanks :-)
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Ok Jesus Jam, 3 things you're dead wrong on (forgive me Father.)
1) No capable person is ENTITLED to a living in a free society. The only people who deserve a govt. handout are orphans, the disabled, and the insane. In other words, people who can't earn a living.
2) "Labor" is a devisive term created by collectivists. Anyone who earns money works to earn it. Beating the stock market involves brain-work.
3) Money earned via brain-work or inheritence is legitimate. Don't be a hater.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
1) in your opinion, many societies have collectively agreed by majority and popular support to offer people entitlements, it's called civilisation
2) bollocks, some people don't earn it they receive it through exploiting others, often using the state. brain-work, or in most cases rigging the system.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Jam, no, that's called socialism, not civilization. Just because most people, at the moment, think that socialism is a swell concept, doesn't make it so. Democracy is bascially mob-rule, which is why the founding fathers created a "Republic" in America, not a democracy.
What is your definition of "exploit?" Employing free people at an agreed upon wage is not exploitation, because both parties agreed to the terms, and the employee is free to quit at any time.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
what about all the people contributing no labour and profitting from it?
You have a company with 40 workers on the floor that work 40 hours each and you buy a machine that does 120 hours of work, capitalism says 3 people go unemployed, socialism says everyone does 37 hours work instead,
which benefits the majority?
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Jam, I guess you just eliminated any doubts people may have about you being a socialist. Machines replacing people in factories? Too bad, that's progress.
Many people lost jobs in Buggy Whip factories with the advent of the automobile. Should we scrap our cars and start driving horse & buggies again?
BRYAN351 3 years ago
it's not an either you are or you aren't issue you know, life isn't all black and white and I'm not a socialist on all issues and if I was, so what? I know a lot of good people on the left
You show your love of building your own prison, everyone will have to suffer from the philosophy you are promoting when instead everyone could benefit
We should make cars as durable as possible to protect the environment and put more people in work that is engaging and skilled, as recommended by the vid
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
One more thing Jam, those 3 people who lost their factory job could get trained and become repairmen for the machines that took away their jobs. New technology may eliminate certain jobs, but that technology creates new job opportunites. The economy is always expanding.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
sure thats a fair point in some instances but they need the resources to get that kind of training and maybe only one of them will be needed, you can't guarantee that they will get full benefit
having an ever expanding economy is dangerous because we live on a planet with finite resources, there are lots of jobs in cutting down forests and polluting the environemnt but since the market only does what is remunerated there really aren't that many in repairing habitats beyond charity, it's wrong
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
There are no guarantees in life. The world is full of risks, and government can't change that, no matter how hard they try.
Yes, resources are finite, but so are people. One day we may no longer have a use for wood, but we currently do, so we grow trees. Things change. Demand for one resource is stong today, but may be nonexistant tomorrow. Hopefully oil will be in that category in our lifetimes.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
3) in your opinion, most people would agree that it depends on the nature of the brain work, if it is tricking people or using the system or the man made entity of a "corporation" which has man-made entitlements exceeding those of individuals, to exploit others it isn't legitimate even though it's legal
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Jam, making money through fraud or from corporate welfare is wrong. I'm talking about honest, fair brain-work. Entrepreneurs who see a need in the marketplace, and use their intelligence and creativity to satisfy that need.
Ebay, Amazon, Starbucks, McDonalds, Kodak, Dell, are just a few stellar examples.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
I have no problem with entrepreneurialism, my dad is one, I have a problem with people living off the backs of others by gaining all their income from "rent" and usury
which rewards having money and punishes having none
the problem with consumerism is when everyone stops buying useless crap they don't need the system collapses, it's better to have a system that provides people with the basic necessities of life before deferring to the market place to distribute goods
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
So what should we do Jam, reward people for having no money? How do we do that? And, if you reward a behavior, you get more of it. If you paid people $1 each time they picked their nose, nobody would have a nose anymore.
There's markets for crap, and there's markets for things people can't do without, like food, clothes, gasoline, etc, and those markets will never go away, unlike the market for....say, overpriced Starbucks coffee.
So what kind of business is your dad in?
BRYAN351 3 years ago
manufacturing medical supplies (Frank Sammeroff Ltd. can find it online)
Before you said "No capable person is ENTITLED to a living in a free society..." unless they are orphans, disabled or insane,
I'm say it's UNFAIR to ONLY give people a living in society when they are orphans, disabled or insane... the only fair option is to give eveyone a basic living :- didn't you watch the video? it proposed an alternative to the current welfare system that was equitable to all
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Re: "If you reward a behavior, you get more of it" If thats your philosophy why do you want more orphans, insane and disabled people?
Limiting property rights IS NOT an infringement of liberties, unlimited property rights DO NOT EXIST IN NATURE
If an animal doesn't finish eating a corpse something else comes and eats it, if a family of birds move to a bigger nest they cannot charge another family rent to live in the old one while they are gone
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Jesus Christ Jam, you've got to keep up with the comments instead of dumping all this crap on me at once. Anyway, being an orphan, insane, or disabled aren't behaviors, they're unfortunate conditions some people are in, not because of anything they did. It's like being right-handed, it just happens to you.
Being a poor, lazy, bum is a chosen behavior, so if you give someone free money just for choosing to be a lazy unproductive sack of shit, he will keep on living that way.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
most people on welfare aren't just lazy, it's unfortunate if there are some like that but they will have a very minimal standard of living as a consequence so there will still be an incentive to work, there are some ares where employment is simply unavailable and all the moeny has to go on goods produced elsewhere so it doesn't stay in the community to provide jobs, that is an unfortunate condition that can happen to you
PS. sorry for the late response lol
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Jam, we've got GENERATIONS of people here on welfare. They make a career out of it, and pass it on to their kids. I've seen it many times, people on welfare refuse to take a job because they would lose their handouts, which are almost as much, or sometimes more, than they would make at a minimum wage job.
So, they choose to remain in poverty for years instead of working their way up the employment ladder like they should. Can you say opportunities lost?
BRYAN351 3 years ago
sure it's wrong for someone to stay on welfare if they have the ability to work unless they are re-training or preparing to return, but that shows a corruption in the system that allows them to sign on when they don't need to, not in the concept itself
corporate fraud, crime and welfare cost FAR MORE money than layabouts by a factor of god knows how many and that is a common enemy of the left and the right, why can't we tackle those issues first before demonising the unsophisticated?
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
I say end all welfare, period. If a corporation taking free taxpayer money angers you, then so should a lazy sack of shit working the system. They are both parasites.
Are there some honest hard working people who occasionally need help? Yes, but that's what private charities are for. The government can't be trusted with our money. Their track record is a disaster.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
Birds have bird-brains and are unable to comprehend the concept of money. If they could, they would also use money, and enjoy richer lives because of it, as humans do.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
you mean the ones who were lucky enough, the rest of the birds would live poorer lives because they'd have to pay rent to the select few who happened to "own" all their nests, or otherwise keep having to pay a "mortgage" for the majority of their lives just to own their own nests by the time they're ready to fall down from the sky
it's a good debate dude and we both argue strongly but at the end of the day I think we fundamentally disagree on the kind of society we'd like to live in x
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Jam, have you ever owned a home? I do own a house, and let me tell you, it's not just because I was "lucky" enough, or that I "happen" to own a house. I own a house because I worked by ass off for it.
If you don't like paying rent, go work your ass off and buy your own house too. Houses don't grow on trees. If you want the use of one, you have to pay the fiddler.
BRYAN351 3 years ago
I'm sure you did and I'm glad youown your own home,
what about people who did no work and got a home with the money they got from their share portfolio
oh yeah, I remember *rolls eyes* they had the initial capital to invest, lucky them
Land owners are on welfare, nothing more, they're living off the backs of others.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
You mean the money they EARNED from their portfolio. Being a successful investor takes intelligence and hard work. You can't simply roll the dice and expect to make a profit on a regular basis, you have to do your research, keep informed, and oh yes, work and save up the money to invest in the first place.
If an investor takes his profit, reinvests it, and makes more profit, BRAVO! Envy will get you nowhere in life, hippy. And, if being a successful investor was easy, everyone would be one.
BRYAN351 2 years ago
One more thing hippy, nobody really owns their land in America (or the UK). The government simply allows you to use the land, as long as you pay the property taxes. If you stop, they seize your land and force you off at gun point.
Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.
BRYAN351 2 years ago
Surely, the American property tax is very similar to the council tax that we pay in the U.K. It actually pays for all the local services, such as Fire, Police, Sewerage, Schools, etc.
So you do in fact own the land, but you are forced to pay for the services.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
One last thing I just HAD to respond to. You want to know who is "living off the backs of others?" My neighbors next door, and people like them.
We own identical houses, pay the exact same property tax (much of which funds the socialist public schools), and guess what? I have ZERO kids, and they have 5 kids in the school system.
Raising kids (educating them is part of raising them) is the responsibility of the parents, and nobody else.
Socialism is THEFT, nothing more.
BRYAN351 2 years ago
No, Capitalism is theft.
Capitalist property laws allow rich elites to hoard vast concentrations of land (which pushes the price up to ridiculously high levels).
Property Laws force people to become wage slaves to rent or buy back a tiny scrap of land.
Rich elites are also able to hog all the resources, denying us all access, a de facto theft.
Landless & without resources, people should be compensated. Socialism would have the very rich pay the taxes, Capitalism makes the working people pay.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Hey Rev...I do think that corporatism is just as bad as socialism.
Non-accountability (for when corporations fail) isn't part of a free-market. I don't believe a corporation can become a legal entity because you can't throw a corporation in prison when they fuck up.
I can't agree with your benefit system because the people dishing out the money will always abuse their cut.
Regarding your last question...I don't think the people should have been robbed in the first place.
Kombaiyashii 3 years ago
corporatism is worse, that is beyond doubt.
RevolutionaryJam 2 years ago
I'm not in favor of government bailouts, of industries. Nor am I in favor of redistribution of wealth, and the welfare state. But you're right. People who believe in corporate bailouts and "corportatism" hide behind the vail of "free market." When theirs really nothing free market about it. And I really enjoy your videos regardless of our disagreements.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
Hey thanks very much! I really enjoy your comments regardless of our disagreements! :-D
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
If you look at this Internet chat board and see the number of really cool leftists promoting their hate and intolerance of Amerika and the Bush regime, one would assume that we are the majority. Either that or many of us don't have jobs.
ScottLaughrey 3 years ago
hi are you being quite sarcastic?
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Really cool progressives question authority though the Internet. Some examples might be some really cool progressives like me and the Web Fairy, who question authority and have intellectual discussion on the fact that it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11. Bush needed 9/11 to launch his illegal war for oil, and it is only through the corporate controlled media telling us the false tale of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes that Bush and Cheney were able to launch their illegal war.
ScottLaughrey 3 years ago
I am really stoked to see the other really cool progressives who post here questioning authority and letting people know that Bush Lies and People Dies.
ScottLaughrey 3 years ago
I mostly agree with you. The "left vs right" thing is way old and stupid. People should stop defending parties and look at fundamental issues of justice.
Why advocate more welfare though? It's trying to fix symptoms instead of looking at the root of the problem. Major reform is needed, not band-aid solutions. Politicians use band-aid social programs to pose as heros and to make people dependent on them.
Power needs to decentralize. Money needs to be a free market. People need land.
MillionthUsername 3 years ago
hi, why do you think welfare is always bad?
don't you think it's good to live in a society where if someone loses their job they still get enough money to feed their family until they find another one?
I agree with what you are saying such as major reform is needed not band-aid solutions and people need land, but free markets can sometimes means more centralisation and land in the hands of fewer people because the people who own most of it get all the money to buy the rest
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
So long as there is someone is willing to pay, there will always be someone willing to collect...
If people are content in their oblivious appetites for superflous entertainment and willing to suck off the teat of government instead of actually producing something, they will continue to get nothing.
SirWinstonChurchill 3 years ago
on the other side of the coin, a society based on the principal that someones only role is to produce something that someone else can consume so that they can consume things that other people produce is not a good foundation at all?
why? many reasons, it's dehumanising, encourages people to step on one another, and most importantly, if people stop buying useless junk they don't need everyone is out of a job!
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
I am not here to determine what is moral or amoral - - I am not religious...
I do not see greed as some sort of a "sin."
SirWinstonChurchill 3 years ago
interesting stuff, thanks!
i'm thinking, so then surely it can't be a sin to "suck of the teat" of the government either though?
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
also do you think that people who gain all their income from share dividends or rent while producing nothing are also sucking off the teat of society or do you apply a double standard?
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
I apply a double standard. That is easy to do. Everybody has a double standard...
P.T. Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute. He was right.
I am more concerned with the government taking things through the threat of force.
SirWinstonChurchill 3 years ago
well at least you acknowledge it! that is not easy for everyone to do
yes the government is to big but no one is doing anything about it so it's just going to get big and fat until it's so big and fat that no one can move anymore because it's big fat belly is crushing them and so they're forced to take a needle and pop the belly so it flies around the room like a ballon until it crashes to the ground with a thrrrrrrp!
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
The people whom you're talking about "sucking" are most probably deprived of land, credit, access to capital, etc. They can't print money like governments and bankers can. They can't manipulate whole economies and start wars and expropriate wealth through taxation, inflation, etc.
Just to exist on a PIECE OF GROUND you either have to pay tribute to a landlord or go into debt to a banker who "loans" you at interest fiat money that they created!
The parasites are not the people at the bottom.
MillionthUsername 3 years ago
i agree
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
there is no government , just a bunch of inbred child raping and stealing dynasties that knock us like a mafia. their taunts are everywhere as the have an efficient and streamlined media gov machine.
zionist control our land, bought our schools to pimp and endoctranate our children. ever heard of rothchilds. a bunch of jews that funded hitlar and fucked his mum sis and daughter
Weddze 3 years ago
hi yes I know about the Rothschilds
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
We need properly enforced equal opportunities policies.
yourcamden 3 years ago
I'm not sure about that, to be honest I think "equal opportunities" only reinforces a difference between people,
next thing we'll have equal opportunities forms to make sure people with ginger hair or darker eye colours are getting fair treatment, the extremities of such a policy is impossible to manage, and quite frankly pointless, the employer should be allowed to make any decision over who he employs.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
p2
You make a good argument for your welfare plan, you should run for office one day.
Let's say your plan pays everyone $1,000 per month, and I pay $5,000 annually in income tax, does that mean I will get a return of $7,000? You'd have to raise the hell out of takes to pay for the middle class rebates, not to mention the non-earner welfare.
PS. I totally agree about the needed synergy between the "left" and "right".
CounterRevolutionary 3 years ago
i don't know the specifics, but it's not my welfare plan, it's an idea that has been around for ages but hasn't got a fair share of media attention
we have PAYE rather than yearly tax returns here in the UK so it would be easier to implement, although I don't think you'd have to "raise the hell out of taxes", I think the plan would work out cheaper than the current one and more satisfactory.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
to continue, here we have the opposite which is "tax credits", IE. the gov gathers in the funds and then gives a rebate to those families in need who have paid too much in tax, but thats silly, why do we need the government to take peoples money just to give it back to them?
Better make tax allowances so those people who are working pay less, or if they aren't earning they get their basic income as a cheque or payment into their bank account, it's just common sense.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
We have tax credits and deductions here too, these are some of the lupeholes that allow the rich no pay little or no taxes.
"why do we need the government to take peoples money just to give it back to them?"
-That's the question of the century.
CounterRevolutionary 3 years ago
p1
Ant, I agree with you about corporate welfare; the bailouts of the airlines, for example make me absolutely sick. They treat their customers like crap, can't keep a schedule, and lose luggage all the time; then expect a handout from the taxpayers when their crap business fails.
But the free market in America is anything but free. I'm not a n economic anarchist, I believe in minimal government involvement; just enough to write and enforce antitrust laws.
CounterRevolutionary 3 years ago
indeed, airlines shouldn't be bailed out if their services aren't economic, this discourages investment in the rail industry which I believe was decemated in the US and hardly any freight goes on it, it's all in trucks, just like the UK.
I'm also in favour of small government.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Corporations have special powers and privileges over normal humans and private companies.
I believe if Corporation are outlawed, & their special privileges taken away, then the problem would be the entire world would sink down to lifestyle of mediocrity, like that in the Dark ages, coz then, without this corporate umbrella protecting them, not many ventures would be launched.
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gauharjk 3 years ago
I'm not sure I agree, but it depends on the privelages in question... remember in granting someone or something a special privelage you undermine the freedom of everyone else,
I'd personally prefer a world where goods were made as locally as possible in the mainstay, this would keep everyone in work and would be environmentally sustainable.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Amen on both accounts.
CounterRevolutionary 3 years ago
Well,what a great & eloquent young man you are.Look forward to viewing many more videos from you.
citizenX9328g 3 years ago
Hi and thanks so much for the positive feedback it is very much appreciated, I also hope you enjoy more vids here in the future! By all means check out what else I've done so far so good and getting better I think + lots of input and debates with lovely people from all over the world :-D
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Will do.Keep going with it,you have a lovely manner about you.
citizenX9328g 3 years ago
Well said, very thoughtful.
Slavesrevolt 3 years ago 2
thanks for the positive feedback :-)
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
I concur. :)
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evryonesacritic 3 years ago
thanks this comment will be removed on July the 13th, peace and best wishes.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Actually, I wasnt thinking u looked like Jesus, there are a lot more jesusier looking people then u im afraid
Katoi5 3 years ago
thanks, I agree there are many of those who are jesusier than I, please pass that feedback on to all the people who have commented on my other videos saying nothing more than "you look like jesus" :-)
Thanks for watching.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
And I look very conservative. I do not go by appearance, I buy content.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
I think that your philosophy is very healthy and right on. Many people are waking up here in the U.S. and it is very important that Americans listen to the experiences in the UK because it reflects what is coming to the U.S. in policy etc. I am noticing that people are loosing their jobs and are trying to get out of debt to become more independent and inovative. Thank you for this video.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
thanks for the kind words, it seems out governments currently have rather the same agendas.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Yes, I totally agree, last year I researched allot from the UK and many of the citizens in your country are afflicted with the same civil rights violations according to their constitution and laws. I will highlight your videos more and urge people to favorite it and get the word out.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
thankyou so much for your support and the information :-)
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
A friend also told me that in SC the Saudis are buying land like crazy.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
I am against corporatism and welfare. Mixing economy and government will just create corporate fascism unless everyone in government is "good". There are many problems that have been created by government elitists and their minion. Just taking money from the corrupt by the corrupt to give to the poor is a band-aid solution.If people need to stop being dependent on government and business to begin with. I would rather fund welfare then warfare though. I am at heart an anarchist anyways lol.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
"people need to stop being dependent on government and business to begin with"
agreed but it's not gonna happen while all the resources are owned & controled by the select few, those resources are needed to fund community self sufficiency
Re:" unless everyone in government is good. "
This is why centralised gov has to be replaced with transparent local government. A completely economic libertarian society is one where a person is just a "unit" - their only function is produce & consume.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Libertarian society is when people have to be self responsible and live their own live. In a libertarian society you would probably see communities work together and like minded people gravitate towards one another like tribalism except modernized. There is a problem right now because of centralized power creating a gigantic mess. Although I will take smaller government over centralized government any day.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
lovely ideally, but u still gotta produce something that others can consume so u can consume something that others produce in order to get fed, even if there isn't enough work to go around. The moment everyone stops buying useless shit they don't need the whole system breaks down which makes it useless, because thats exactly what we have to do. We have to stop buying useless shit we don't need.
also, a society with unlimited property rights will always lead to the wealth accelerating upwards.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Of course people will produce that is what people do. Property rights mean you have a solid foundation and will take care of their area. If you own land then you will take care of it and have a solid foundation to be free. There is no real private property today the government claims everything in it's territory is partially owned by it at least in the USA. We do have to stop buying useless shit I agree there.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
what I mean is, as it stand all the shops down the road r owned by a proprieter, right?
They r leased out 2 shop owners. No matter what happens the proprieter gets paid 1st, even if the shop doesn't profit. He will charge as much rent as he knows they will pay, but he doesn't contribute any labour 2 the services they render,
Who does that benefit other than him? Not the shop owner as it cuts profits, not the employees as it eats their share, not the consumer as they have 2pay higher prices
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
If your a crappy business sucks for you, but if your great then buy him out. What is your solution then?
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
thats a mute point really since he shouldn't own it in the first place, but I thought of it
The price of the land will generally be such that it is too expensive to be worth buying from the owner in the short term, the more valuable the land is to the shopowner the more the price of buying it will rise of course.
I just think there should be a limit to the amount of property someone owns to rent, it's really exploiting people if you own a whole block of flats etc.
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Homesteading could solve the problem so people do not gobble up land. If land is not being used for productive purposes then it could be taken for living, business, or traveling across. That could work.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago 2
Perhaps, I discuss some more problems with a completely free market in the comments of the video response, maybe you will find them interesting and would like to give me your perspective on the points I raise?
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
I will take a look at them sometime. I get tired of debating free markets sometimes I need a breather and I will take a look soon though.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
I understand, me too, thats why I'm making my points in video, tired of repeating myself! :-) haha
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Hah right on
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
I am thinking of homesteading. Selling the house and buying land and just homesteading. The system is dysfunctional, it does not even support renting a room, putting gas in a car etc. I am talking about necessity and not extravagance. People will have to be more sustainable. And, I also believe that food will be traded and bartered. Just like during the Great Depression.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
I agree.I've been trading skills/bartering for a couple of years now in the U.K.
It seems the only "real" option.
citizenX9328g 3 years ago
Although,I would add,it might be more easy for me to go down that road,being single & child-free.
citizenX9328g 3 years ago
I own a home and no one has the income to support paying a rent let alone utilities. There is no income. In CA yesterday a city declared bankruptcy. The EU, NAFTA, CAFTA, international private equity firms are bleeding all the people dry of any financial well being. Now, communities and cities will be subject to the same conditions. Enough is enough and I urge every citizen to find out what banks that the community or city owes money too and who owns the bank!!!!!!!!
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
In my village, I am finding that one man is buying up everything. And, in communities prior to 911 I found ponzi scams going on where one buys into a community at an inflated price, borrows money from the banks and then repeats the same somewhere else. This breaks up the community because those with "community in mind" content that plan on living there cannot. It drives up the taxes, the community probably borrows money to run the community based on these inflated values. The banks allow it.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
I am sure on that. The banking system is corrupt beyond belief. My town is being over run by people from the city. I rent from someone who lives like 3 hours away in NYC. It is next to a graveyard which makes it cheaper then most apartments.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
Yes, I am up by Woodstock, NY it is very crowded. Bloomberg created the flocking of people out of the city/raising rents, creating homelessness. I met people that have mstrs degrees and they were shifted to an area where there is no employment.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
The employment if one is lucky is center related jobs. I am in Parsippany/NJ area living with my sister and temping at major corp to no avail. The economy is now the same as Upstate NY. I am much older than you and have allot of work experience. So do the best that you can do and remain positive. Try to get into hiking and enjoying your surroundings. If it is a graveyard, hey be thankful you are not there. Down the rd from me is a graveyard that looks like a steven king novel, lol.
moneymagnetelizabeth 3 years ago
Hah my graveyard is actually pretty nice looking so no King looking cemetery here lol. Times will be getting tough, but I am not that worried. If things get real bad then I am glad I do not live in the city.
AzraelsJudgement 3 years ago
"Ooh - here come the thought police !"
Heh, i wish. I ain't gonna lock you up, but i'll make you look like the moron that you are.
zo1dberg 3 years ago
hey zo1dberg, I appreciate alternative opinions and interpretations here, and your opinions are more than welcome but please keep it clean debate and be respectful of other posters, try not to make it personal please!
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Piss off Jew hater - next you'll be telling us the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a true account of Zionism.
You think the same way as a Nazi stooge
zo1dberg 3 years ago
Good video i completely agree. We have the same welfare problem here in Quebec too. I agree with a system supporting everybody. Governments should start putting it into practice. It is something that would take some time. But if made possible would improve the current state of affairs. If this could be applied on a global scale it could solve world poverty. I am aware that that is a lot to hope for. But i do dream of one day living in a world where people are able to sustain themselves.
Fw7X0 3 years ago
Keep dreaming, enough idealists makes an ideal :) Thanks for the input!
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago
Well done.
A certain segment in the US never tires of pointing out the so-called outrageous tax rates in many European countries, while failing to recognize that most of those countries also have a higher base income. The Federal minimum wage in the States is $7.25/hr. Ridiculous. Norway seems to have worked out a pretty good model and have what one could consider to be an enlightened populace, but I agree that other paradigms are needed.
lol@your last line.
AspasiaByName 3 years ago
I think most people would think the prices in Norway for goods are outrageous compared to our currency, thing is their incomes are so damn high they can afford it!
haha the last line is in reference to all the people who comment on my videos saying "duhhh you look like jesus" hahaha no harm in it tho
RevolutionaryJam 3 years ago