WI just enacted mandatory car insurance the first of last month. This means that know I cant afford to drive, which mean I cant get to work, which means I will end up homeless. I live in a small village 7 miles out side of a small city, there is no bus and only cab service around would cost me $35 dollars a day to get to and from work. I hope your happy government.
@josephdupont You are right I could ride a bike, but that would only work in the summer. There is no way in hell I am going to ride a bike 7 miles down a very busy highway ( the only road to town) in the winter, in fact I think there is a law aganist it. Also my job is very phyically demanding at time, so much so that all I can to after work is go to sleep, so one alot of day I would not be physical able to right a bike home.
To compare mandatory car insurance to mandatory health insurance is apples and oranges. Mandatory car insurance is only for liability insurance to protect the other guy, the victim. When congress made waring seat belts and motorcycle helmets mandatory we starting down a different legal path. There's no law that forbids me from cutting my own finger off but I cannot cut my neighbor's finger off.
So why can't I cut off the neighbors finger if I need it more than him or her?
What about burial insurance.. Surely
you believe in that. Everyone will die.
How do we know that there will be enough money left , after the deductible on the medical bills, that the guy or gal cang get a decent funneral.???? Hummm?
@josephdupont Hi josephdupont, reason needs to be the guide in the public policy debate. And doesn't reason say that if my neighbor's finger belongs to him it should stay with him even if I might need it more? I sure think so. Thanks for your response.
I guess , now that you mention it.. regardless of my need for his or her finger, their need for it should trump my need. I see what you mean. Like what is theres is theres and what's mine is mine. but what if I need some of their money..
OK I won't take their finger. I might need their money really badly.. And if they have a lot.. why should they care. Are gong to try to make the same argument??
After all Granted if I their finger the can't grow a new one. But money .? they can make more!
@josephdupont You have got to the heart of the US health care debate. But I think if I work for a wage I should get the pay just as anyone else should. The wealthy provide me with a place to earn a wage. I have never worked for a person who was not wealthy. Sure we need a safety net and we have medicaid and welfare (which, I believe, would make the poor pretty well off in most countries) for those who can't afford health care. Thanks again.
People in America are so used to blaming political parties that they don't hold into account the individual or individuals who are destroying our Constitution. It's become a free for all to the most devious, self-self centered, egotistical, corrupt humans, if they even are humans, who we now call our political leaders. They are the ones who've created this hell they claim to make better as long as they remain in power...truly pathetic.
The Constitution does not provide for a federal income tax or Federal Reserve. That ought to be our target. All this other stuff, like mandatory health insurance is just another distraction for us to forget about our Constitution.
Once again the constitution allows for the funding of certain things necessary for the survival of this nation. . It has never called for people to by a product. and no one is acknowledging that President Obama lied his way into office say that he was against mandatory health insurance.
Quote from Obama's speech:"Let me be clear, it would only be an option for those who don't have insurance. No one would be forced to choose it and it would not impact those of you who already have insurance. In fact, based on Congressional Budget Office estimates, we believe that less than 5 percent of Americans would sign up."
What Option? YOu have no option ! you must buy health insurance even if it is uncontitutional to force us!
Apparently our fearless leader wanted to include having guns into the health care bill. So why ban sky diving, flying, motorcycles, etc. quads? no way
I think everyone should be forced to purchase health insurance. Most of the assholes in the USA would not buy it if they were not forced to do so.
vjl279 10 months ago
We already have mandatory care insurance.. If you don't have car insurance you will get fined or possibly go to jail.. This isn't something new.
nomeatsteak 1 year ago
WI just enacted mandatory car insurance the first of last month. This means that know I cant afford to drive, which mean I cant get to work, which means I will end up homeless. I live in a small village 7 miles out side of a small city, there is no bus and only cab service around would cost me $35 dollars a day to get to and from work. I hope your happy government.
defiythelie 1 year ago
@defiythelie Unless you are sick you could ride a bicycle 7 miles each way..
At least you have an option. I see your point.. but with mandatory health insurance the only option is to die.
josephdupont 1 year ago
@josephdupont You are right I could ride a bike, but that would only work in the summer. There is no way in hell I am going to ride a bike 7 miles down a very busy highway ( the only road to town) in the winter, in fact I think there is a law aganist it. Also my job is very phyically demanding at time, so much so that all I can to after work is go to sleep, so one alot of day I would not be physical able to right a bike home.
defiythelie 1 year ago
@defiythelie In PA , without collision, I spend about 1200 bucks a year for 3
cars.. actually 2 cars and a big van.. And I carry over 500,000 of liability.
how much i moped insurance.. car pooling.
I know it is a bitch..
I wonder if they will give you financial aid as they say they will with the health insurance. Why not? Good Luck
josephdupont 1 year ago
To compare mandatory car insurance to mandatory health insurance is apples and oranges. Mandatory car insurance is only for liability insurance to protect the other guy, the victim. When congress made waring seat belts and motorcycle helmets mandatory we starting down a different legal path. There's no law that forbids me from cutting my own finger off but I cannot cut my neighbor's finger off.
torkelson100 1 year ago
So why can't I cut off the neighbors finger if I need it more than him or her?
What about burial insurance.. Surely
you believe in that. Everyone will die.
How do we know that there will be enough money left , after the deductible on the medical bills, that the guy or gal cang get a decent funneral.???? Hummm?
josephdupont 1 year ago
@josephdupont Hi josephdupont, reason needs to be the guide in the public policy debate. And doesn't reason say that if my neighbor's finger belongs to him it should stay with him even if I might need it more? I sure think so. Thanks for your response.
torkelson100 1 year ago
I guess , now that you mention it.. regardless of my need for his or her finger, their need for it should trump my need. I see what you mean. Like what is theres is theres and what's mine is mine. but what if I need some of their money..
OK I won't take their finger. I might need their money really badly.. And if they have a lot.. why should they care. Are gong to try to make the same argument??
After all Granted if I their finger the can't grow a new one. But money .? they can make more!
josephdupont 1 year ago
@josephdupont You have got to the heart of the US health care debate. But I think if I work for a wage I should get the pay just as anyone else should. The wealthy provide me with a place to earn a wage. I have never worked for a person who was not wealthy. Sure we need a safety net and we have medicaid and welfare (which, I believe, would make the poor pretty well off in most countries) for those who can't afford health care. Thanks again.
torkelson100 1 year ago
People in America are so used to blaming political parties that they don't hold into account the individual or individuals who are destroying our Constitution. It's become a free for all to the most devious, self-self centered, egotistical, corrupt humans, if they even are humans, who we now call our political leaders. They are the ones who've created this hell they claim to make better as long as they remain in power...truly pathetic.
LordRigon 2 years ago
The Constitution does not provide for a federal income tax or Federal Reserve. That ought to be our target. All this other stuff, like mandatory health insurance is just another distraction for us to forget about our Constitution.
2242bzo 2 years ago
You are not going to get a second chance on thoe things unless you nail this down.
josephdupont 2 years ago
Once again the constitution allows for the funding of certain things necessary for the survival of this nation. . It has never called for people to by a product. and no one is acknowledging that President Obama lied his way into office say that he was against mandatory health insurance.
josephdupont 2 years ago
The constitution was created to acknowledge that God gives us our rights! Not the government.
and the government should not lightly take them away.
josephdupont 2 years ago
Quote from Obama's speech:"Let me be clear, it would only be an option for those who don't have insurance. No one would be forced to choose it and it would not impact those of you who already have insurance. In fact, based on Congressional Budget Office estimates, we believe that less than 5 percent of Americans would sign up."
What Option? YOu have no option ! you must buy health insurance even if it is uncontitutional to force us!
josephdupont 2 years ago
Apparently our fearless leader wanted to include having guns into the health care bill. So why ban sky diving, flying, motorcycles, etc. quads? no way
This is serious stuff.
josephdupont 2 years ago