This is an amazing video. This isn't just about Scientology. This is about every religion in the world. When you leave it, the people still in think you left because you want to be selfish, or you're evil. Lots of people have that arm folded up reaction.
This is a great channel. Thanks for all the vids.
If I ran into Dan Murnan I think that I would innitiate a conversation about how superior the 1978 Ford F150 was to newer versions and how much fun it is to build hotrods.
Then I would tell him about how Jesus is helping me build my new ratrod, he might understand if I approach him in that manner.
You are great Tory! I'm an ex and my bro is still in and i really want him to wake up and smell the con but its going to take some work, all your points are so valid and so true, keep on making vids!!!
I love you so much Tory....Betty p.s. To everyone reading....I am an ex-Scino (8 years free!) & have known Tory for 30 years....she is all that you see here and more....one of the most loving, caring incredble human beings that you will ever meet!! xo
coldo2, you're right. I posted about how funny Dan Murnan was when I was on ARS once. I received the most sobering reply I've ever had. A wonderful woman who knew Dan when she was in told me
"no it's not funny, it's tragic. Dan used to be so friendly, so caring. It's heartbreaking to see him behaving this way".
I've never looked at scientologists the same way again. I really feel sorry for Dan.
Do you know what Dan's interests were outside of the Church, if any, Tory?
When he was picketing Mark's house he reminded me so much of the young fellows that tag along behind my husband and friends as they work on, or race, cars. A great follower, if you will. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Dan gave up all outside interests in order to fit in with the group.
Dan's bullying persona he puts on in a few of Mark's videos always seemed so forced. I totally agree with Desert. His videos are the hardest to watch because you know he is so much better than all of that.
Dan Murnan always seems to be forcing out that stern person he portrays. I've always felt really sorry for him. Of all the videos Mark has posted with all the $ci-toons berating him Dan has always seemed the most out of place.
Tory=Hitler? What the hell? Bless you Tory, I don't know how you put up with so much and still keep your good humor. You're a beautiful person with a wonderful smile and if your old friends can't see that over the SP declare, than that's their sad loss. Thank you for sharing yourself with us. *Hugs*
You remind me of my Mum :) you might not be part of Anonamous, but you make an effort to aknowledge the vital motivations of ours, like delicious and moist cake, long cat and Rickroll.
Hope your buddy Dan and all the rest of your pals wake up and make contact with you soon. Hope they realise you can be a real source of comfort, peace, and laughter. I know I feel better just watching your vids. :)
I'm over-welmed to hear news dispelling the rumors of Dan Murnan's death. He genuinely seemed like a guy who had a heart of gold that was getting manipulated. Behind Dan's Poker face on that day he picketed Mark's house, was a face that looked to me as if you could almost see him wanting to debate scientology... to open up, to ask questions. Seems Scientology has seen to that...
ok so my next question is that since you had your own home, did the church monitor you internet traffic being a volunteer of OSA? If you were to say that's enough no more to the church, you had your own home. Granted I dealt with a Christian Church calling itself deliverance and it takes a while to get them to leave you alone. Basically what happened to the assets when you got out? I can see that it would be irreconcilable with the marriage if your spouse was not supportive.
Tory, have WAY more friends than Dan. I do wish he would wake up and break free. Even back in 2000 when he was picketing at Marks house he looked like he knew the truth.
Everything Dan is searching for in scientology could be his if he thought for and about himself and walked away.
Hopefully someday he will be in these videos speaking out and joining the majority of the world.
This video is very powerful. It has the power to wake people up. If it's not Dan, then it might be someone else. It reminds me of the time I left Scientology and that Aerosmith song: "It's amazing when in the blink of an eye you finally see the light, when the moment arrives you know you'll feel alright. So I'm saying a prayer for the desperate hearts tonight".
Its funny, of all the videos i have ever seen of Mr. Murnan, I always get the same vibe. It's like he's needs a friend or a pal or something. I actually feel kinda sorry for the poor guy. You can see it in his eyes. It feels like maybe everyone who he had ever put trust in had betrayed him or hurt him, maybe his close family, maybe abandoned, put up for adoption, abused or something. I don't know, i'm not a psychic. But, i do recognise pain, and than man has alot of pain inside of him.
Gosh Tory...that is just heart-breaking to know that these people you were close to won't speak to you...and especially your husband. I have seen vids with you and him and he seemed to be a gentle man....my heart cries for that..that he can't see or any of these people can't see...will pray that many wake up. I really hope some of the ones that have been close to you wake up. You are doing a wonderful thing. Very proud of you. I am glad you are free now :-)
I feel like I would recognize Dan Murnan anywhere now. Seems a bit of a backfire on Scientology's part. Also, What color is the SP declaration? I'd like the SP shirt I'm about to make be the right color. Much love to the Magoo!
dan murnan looks to be a good intentioned communicative person....i can't believe he wouldn't even covertly smile and say hey, good to see you...poor dan... :(
hollywood blvd and the walk of stars; how very apropos. the irony of celuloid film symbolic in comparison to that of the thin film of a bubble- that thin veil that separates sanity from insanity. if and when sanity reconnects then the bubble goes "PoP!" shattered, shattered....
when you say out, were you living on a scientology complex or owned property or were you job, home, family and them the church. I remember you stating you would fly every six months for auditing, but if you had to fly what were you getting out of or did I miss-understand?
Of all the OSA handlers in all the XenuTV episodes I've watched, I've always thought Dan Murnan seemed like a nice guy. My opinion changed a lot when I saw him picketing at Mark Bunker's home, but even then he seemed to regret what he was doing. It's hard to tell.
I guess it only goes to show that Scientologists are no different than any of us. Some are great people, some are assholes. Some even get caught up in bad situations. That's life I guess.
I am curious on what scientologists would be able to view your vids or any vids on this big con... What freedom do scientologists have to browse the internet at all?
Tory do you know any details on scientology's internet filter program?
If you are reffering to the part i think you are reffering ands she was reffering to the time i think she was (heheh), i dont know their names, but xenutv has a 5 part video on it. Its some kind of convention where they had all kinds of people chatting around a table, and tory and her friend gave an insight into scientology before the discussion. It was interesting precisely because of the dialogue with the scientologists, which i dont see very often. Ill try to find it for you.
To anyone wondering about this Dan guy... Mark Bunker (Youtube user XenuTV1) has a lot of videos of this guy, when he started picketing at Mark's house and when he ran into him at a street fair, etc.
Very interesting video tory i remember watching marks videos with dan in them and thought he was an interesting character! keep up the good work Tory see you next sunday!
When I first saw the video Mark put up about Dan, I was overwhelmed with sympathy and compassion for Dan. He is such a tragic victim of Scientology. I hope he recovers.
To the person she's addressing. Think about it this way. She's in the Anonymous' version of the celebrity centre! Not red carpet treatment, but genuine and well deserved love. (And some clothes plushies but that's a fringe benefit.)
Now I remember reading somewhere that there are different levels of SP. depending on things including court case findings in yours or the COS's favour, to just spreading the honesty about the COS. What SP score do the Anon's have generally? Maybe worth a vid?
It would be nice to see some of your old friends talk to you again. The idea that they're not your friends just because a higher authority told them they're not allowed to be friends with you anymore is immoral on every level. I realize that Scientology brainwashes them to think that way, and it would be great if they can just wake up, like you said, and realize what Scientology is doing to their freedom.
I hear Dan has a throat tumor and refuses to take his meds. Can anyone confirm/deny this? If this is true, then that's horrible.
an0nim0uz 11 months ago
Dan Murnan is a jerk. I don't personally know the guy, but I have seen all the videos he is in. A wasted, sad, bullshit life.
IRoman123 1 year ago
This is an amazing video. This isn't just about Scientology. This is about every religion in the world. When you leave it, the people still in think you left because you want to be selfish, or you're evil. Lots of people have that arm folded up reaction.
This is a great channel. Thanks for all the vids.
highwind8124 2 years ago
If I ran into Dan Murnan I think that I would innitiate a conversation about how superior the 1978 Ford F150 was to newer versions and how much fun it is to build hotrods.
Then I would tell him about how Jesus is helping me build my new ratrod, he might understand if I approach him in that manner.
thegirl44 2 years ago
You are great Tory! I'm an ex and my bro is still in and i really want him to wake up and smell the con but its going to take some work, all your points are so valid and so true, keep on making vids!!!
pedrofcuk 2 years ago
Free Dan Murnan
shameoncanada 3 years ago 6
this is such a nice vid Tory :)
I'd like to hear Mr Anonymoose's story sometime.
SurferRosa79 3 years ago 2
I'd love Dan to get out too...but I think he lacks the IQ, self-awareness, and self-esteem to do it. Unfortunate.
Gramsk 3 years ago 3
I love you so much Tory....Betty p.s. To everyone reading....I am an ex-Scino (8 years free!) & have known Tory for 30 years....she is all that you see here and more....one of the most loving, caring incredble human beings that you will ever meet!! xo
raecoyote 3 years ago 6
I wonder when Dan Murnan will quit $cientology like Mary DeMoss ?
ericcartman321 3 years ago 5
I'd love for Dan Murnan to get out.
CW2Austin 3 years ago 3
Dan's awesome. I'd love to just chill with the dude. It's so sad to see how he is in those videos.
UserName89 3 years ago 6
Great!
nethius 3 years ago 4
coldo2, you're right. I posted about how funny Dan Murnan was when I was on ARS once. I received the most sobering reply I've ever had. A wonderful woman who knew Dan when she was in told me
"no it's not funny, it's tragic. Dan used to be so friendly, so caring. It's heartbreaking to see him behaving this way".
I've never looked at scientologists the same way again. I really feel sorry for Dan.
xenuismaster 3 years ago 12
she's into anon, awesome.
however i fear her exposure to /b/...
RtnlSltn 3 years ago 4
I'm Ok, I've seen it. It isn't my thing, but I understand it, sort of.
Meantime, I hang with those I love: ANONYMOUS
and Mr. Anonymooooose :)
Tory/Magoo~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you DO realize that internet friends don't really count as real friends, right?
I mean no offense.
I think it's great your so happy.]
just... you do realize that, right?
pengubaby 2 years ago
@ToryMagoo44
Do you know what Dan's interests were outside of the Church, if any, Tory?
When he was picketing Mark's house he reminded me so much of the young fellows that tag along behind my husband and friends as they work on, or race, cars. A great follower, if you will. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Dan gave up all outside interests in order to fit in with the group.
thegirl44 1 year ago
@RtnlSltn Rules 1&2, You failed!
MrWahloh 1 year ago
so i herd you love tory.
i luvvvvvvvvvvv tory! as a fellow anon i say you are epic. ^_^ woo !
pokefan666 3 years ago 5
I wish you were my mom, Tory.
GoAwayBartImPiss 3 years ago 12
Long cat is loooooooooooooooooooooooooong
tehprojektzero 3 years ago 4
Dan's bullying persona he puts on in a few of Mark's videos always seemed so forced. I totally agree with Desert. His videos are the hardest to watch because you know he is so much better than all of that.
coldo2 3 years ago 4
Dan Murnan always seems to be forcing out that stern person he portrays. I've always felt really sorry for him. Of all the videos Mark has posted with all the $ci-toons berating him Dan has always seemed the most out of place.
coldo2 3 years ago 3
Hi Tory! I have a question.
How did you find out that you were declared? And for that matter, how did you get a copy of that sheet?
Also, how does one go about figuring out if they're declared?
mazack00 3 years ago
Is there a place I can download a copy of your SP declaration?
You do seem to treasure it. Can't blame you.
themadhair 3 years ago 2
I wonder if "Dee" made it to OT 3 yet. Highly doubt it.
takerdust 3 years ago
Longcat is bedazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzle
Anonypoke 3 years ago 3
"I don't want to talk to you"
Sounds like Dan is taking full advantage of that wonderful "Communication Tech" Scientologists always brag about.
tipigi 3 years ago 4
Tory=Hitler? What the hell? Bless you Tory, I don't know how you put up with so much and still keep your good humor. You're a beautiful person with a wonderful smile and if your old friends can't see that over the SP declare, than that's their sad loss. Thank you for sharing yourself with us. *Hugs*
akpookie 3 years ago 4
Longcat is loooooong....!
Papachair 3 years ago 5
You remind me of my Mum :) you might not be part of Anonamous, but you make an effort to aknowledge the vital motivations of ours, like delicious and moist cake, long cat and Rickroll.
<3 you Win!
marysian 3 years ago 3
Tory as Hitler?
HEIL MAGOO!!
Hope your buddy Dan and all the rest of your pals wake up and make contact with you soon. Hope they realise you can be a real source of comfort, peace, and laughter. I know I feel better just watching your vids. :)
cloak616 3 years ago
Tory. You may be the most inspiring person I've ever seen. You're just amazing. I really want to give you a hug. :)
anonymouswe 3 years ago 3
Loooongcat! Love it!
Oh man, I just love Anonymous. They are such a help to the old timer ARSCC who needed new blood.
NotSoOldHippy 3 years ago 2
So ........ what movie did you go see?
TheD2JBug 3 years ago
It was on Alt.Religion.Scientology
Someone called "El Ron Crozo" claimed:
> > A few weeks ago I remember someone posting that Dan Murnan is dead
RDJPN 3 years ago
You certainly come across as free, happy and with good communication skills- where can I do an SP course?!
magicdosh 3 years ago 2
Keep it up, Tory. You are wonderful, and are making such a huuuuge difference with your kindness, warmth and humor!
Love you!
MomAnon21008 3 years ago
you're brave tory! keep fighting the good fight!
fourtyhellensagree 3 years ago
I gotta find a copy of an SP declare, and declare myself....everyone should have one....good idea for picket signs too....we are all SPs.....
and next time lift that shirt a little higher....
knotoftoads 3 years ago
We all love you Tory. Carry on your work.
CW2Austin 3 years ago
I too heard these rumours a couple months ago but they were never substantiated. (duh)
singedrac 3 years ago
Cool! Dan! I was really hoping he was still around. I don't mean... in Scientology, but alive. He could be so much happier if he left.
singedrac 3 years ago
longcat is loooooooooooooooooooooooooong
samthehydra 3 years ago
OMG Tory did you have your declaration laminated?! LOL!! :)
xoxo, from your FRIEND cherrie in canada!
AngeliaChanel 3 years ago
I'm over-welmed to hear news dispelling the rumors of Dan Murnan's death. He genuinely seemed like a guy who had a heart of gold that was getting manipulated. Behind Dan's Poker face on that day he picketed Mark's house, was a face that looked to me as if you could almost see him wanting to debate scientology... to open up, to ask questions. Seems Scientology has seen to that...
RDJPN 3 years ago
ok so my next question is that since you had your own home, did the church monitor you internet traffic being a volunteer of OSA? If you were to say that's enough no more to the church, you had your own home. Granted I dealt with a Christian Church calling itself deliverance and it takes a while to get them to leave you alone. Basically what happened to the assets when you got out? I can see that it would be irreconcilable with the marriage if your spouse was not supportive.
ppcb68 3 years ago
I base the previous question on the premise that you left your existing life for a new one.
ppcb68 3 years ago
wink
SciFientology 3 years ago
All this SP declaration stuff reminds me of Stalin's purges of previously well-thought of communists.
GFantastic 3 years ago
Tory, have WAY more friends than Dan. I do wish he would wake up and break free. Even back in 2000 when he was picketing at Marks house he looked like he knew the truth.
Everything Dan is searching for in scientology could be his if he thought for and about himself and walked away.
Hopefully someday he will be in these videos speaking out and joining the majority of the world.
subscribetothis 3 years ago
Oooh, they lied to the cops and got shut down for 3 years... please tell.
anonymous1312 3 years ago 2
lets get the party started! Too bad you can't be here to party with us DC anons!
Anongurl 3 years ago 3
Hey Tory enjoyed your video today..see ya 3-15-08. I'll be in Atlanta, Ga.
denise87666 3 years ago 3
Keep up the truth. we are with you....
hunterswine 3 years ago 2
Tory is cool.
NevermindTheCoals 3 years ago
Hey Troy
Again another powerful video to share with the world. YOU are the BOMB! and I am sure the rest of the world agrees with me.
My desire is that people will wake up! and see the truth.
Ash
New Zealand
iinviteyou01 3 years ago 2
This video is very powerful. It has the power to wake people up. If it's not Dan, then it might be someone else. It reminds me of the time I left Scientology and that Aerosmith song: "It's amazing when in the blink of an eye you finally see the light, when the moment arrives you know you'll feel alright. So I'm saying a prayer for the desperate hearts tonight".
Thanks so much, Tory!
BurtBenz 3 years ago 2
yay! mama Tory loves long cats too! <333
Dan probably misses talking to you a lot, but doesn't wanna get in trouble.
xXBlueSionXx 3 years ago
Its funny, of all the videos i have ever seen of Mr. Murnan, I always get the same vibe. It's like he's needs a friend or a pal or something. I actually feel kinda sorry for the poor guy. You can see it in his eyes. It feels like maybe everyone who he had ever put trust in had betrayed him or hurt him, maybe his close family, maybe abandoned, put up for adoption, abused or something. I don't know, i'm not a psychic. But, i do recognise pain, and than man has alot of pain inside of him.
NoWattz 3 years ago 3
Gosh Tory...that is just heart-breaking to know that these people you were close to won't speak to you...and especially your husband. I have seen vids with you and him and he seemed to be a gentle man....my heart cries for that..that he can't see or any of these people can't see...will pray that many wake up. I really hope some of the ones that have been close to you wake up. You are doing a wonderful thing. Very proud of you. I am glad you are free now :-)
flowerchild1964 3 years ago
I feel like I would recognize Dan Murnan anywhere now. Seems a bit of a backfire on Scientology's part. Also, What color is the SP declaration? I'd like the SP shirt I'm about to make be the right color. Much love to the Magoo!
NonDripHelmet 3 years ago
ROFL @ 00:05
rba718 3 years ago
dan murnan looks to be a good intentioned communicative person....i can't believe he wouldn't even covertly smile and say hey, good to see you...poor dan... :(
Love to you Tory Bo Borey...from Corey...
Alprazolam 3 years ago 4
hollywood blvd and the walk of stars; how very apropos. the irony of celuloid film symbolic in comparison to that of the thin film of a bubble- that thin veil that separates sanity from insanity. if and when sanity reconnects then the bubble goes "PoP!" shattered, shattered....
GreatestPotential 3 years ago
when you say out, were you living on a scientology complex or owned property or were you job, home, family and them the church. I remember you stating you would fly every six months for auditing, but if you had to fly what were you getting out of or did I miss-understand?
ppcb68 3 years ago 2
I swear... that longcat thing has gotten ridiculous! :-P Keep up the good work!
AnethSvartalf 3 years ago 2
Poor Dan
Thanks, Tory
BXRawr 3 years ago 5
Woohoo Dan Murnan! I hope he gets out soon he'll be cool to talk to
virus1244 3 years ago 2
I would die from laughter if someone ran into Dan at one of Anons protests.
AN0NISAN0N 3 years ago
What the deuce?
TheD2JBug 3 years ago
Make sure Dan knows there will be delicious cake when he gets out!
Anonymouschick2 3 years ago
Don't listen to Anonymouschick2, the cake is a lie.
CheezMonsterCrazy 3 years ago
Thanks Tory!
JAnon12345 3 years ago
5* for Longcat
Hamandchees3 3 years ago
tory you are amazing!!!
rynolda 3 years ago
longcat is looooong
extremepietbh 3 years ago
Of all the OSA handlers in all the XenuTV episodes I've watched, I've always thought Dan Murnan seemed like a nice guy. My opinion changed a lot when I saw him picketing at Mark Bunker's home, but even then he seemed to regret what he was doing. It's hard to tell.
I guess it only goes to show that Scientologists are no different than any of us. Some are great people, some are assholes. Some even get caught up in bad situations. That's life I guess.
GastonFTW 3 years ago
Sooo weird! shows no views or comments on your video!! AND they were just there!! Creeepy! they just disappreared wah-wah??
motorcitygirlee 3 years ago
Where did all the comments go? YouTube glitch?
Desertphile 3 years ago
I am curious on what scientologists would be able to view your vids or any vids on this big con... What freedom do scientologists have to browse the internet at all?
Tory do you know any details on scientology's internet filter program?
motorcitygirlee 3 years ago
Sparkles the SP cat, PARTY HARD 3/15!
ebaumguy 3 years ago
"... some ministers and top Scientologists?" What ministers? From which church?
Desertphile 3 years ago
If you are reffering to the part i think you are reffering ands she was reffering to the time i think she was (heheh), i dont know their names, but xenutv has a 5 part video on it. Its some kind of convention where they had all kinds of people chatting around a table, and tory and her friend gave an insight into scientology before the discussion. It was interesting precisely because of the dialogue with the scientologists, which i dont see very often. Ill try to find it for you.
buprenorphed24 3 years ago
To anyone wondering about this Dan guy... Mark Bunker (Youtube user XenuTV1) has a lot of videos of this guy, when he started picketing at Mark's house and when he ran into him at a street fair, etc.
EikC 3 years ago
Very interesting video tory i remember watching marks videos with dan in them and thought he was an interesting character! keep up the good work Tory see you next sunday!
od502 3 years ago
Magoo's cat FTW
Sparkly cat wise lady
TheD2JBug 3 years ago
Magoo's cat pwns longcat
It's sparkly cat wise lady!
TheD2JBug 3 years ago 2
Tory,I've just been watching your lecture on Xenu TV and it's absolutely fascinating.
In it you talk about your best friend being 'reverse audited' and going insane.
Could you pls tell us what 'reverse auditing' is,and why it's so harmful?
COS are crazy.
If they cleaned up the abuses and crazy stuff,and had folk like you as spokepeople,they could make 10x the dosh they do now.
blackwhimsy 3 years ago 3
When I first saw the video Mark put up about Dan, I was overwhelmed with sympathy and compassion for Dan. He is such a tragic victim of Scientology. I hope he recovers.
Desertphile 3 years ago 6
To the person she's addressing. Think about it this way. She's in the Anonymous' version of the celebrity centre! Not red carpet treatment, but genuine and well deserved love. (And some clothes plushies but that's a fringe benefit.)
Now I remember reading somewhere that there are different levels of SP. depending on things including court case findings in yours or the COS's favour, to just spreading the honesty about the COS. What SP score do the Anon's have generally? Maybe worth a vid?
SilverArse 3 years ago 3
It would be nice to see some of your old friends talk to you again. The idea that they're not your friends just because a higher authority told them they're not allowed to be friends with you anymore is immoral on every level. I realize that Scientology brainwashes them to think that way, and it would be great if they can just wake up, like you said, and realize what Scientology is doing to their freedom.
Relyt22 3 years ago 3
Thats too bad. I saw Dan picketing Marks house. He looked like he was about to bail out. Sad he is still wasting his life there.
Are they even allowed to watch these videos?
subscribetothis 3 years ago 4
for some reason, your video isn't syncronized with your voice. it's not too bad, though.
ddb1965 3 years ago
Dan Murnan!? I hope he comes to our side.
kingofthekrill 3 years ago 3