Copying Is Not Theft - Awesomepedia #1

[areuter727]

You're 21 now, Jakob. If you ever go and try to make a living making videos you tell me how much copying isn't theft! How you can't get a decent wage because of rampant THEFT of videos/movies!

You'll be lip-synching a different tune living out of a cardboard box!

[scarlet1750]

See discussion on Raymond Weil 'Where does design inspiration exceeds its bounderies and becomes copying' on Watchuseek.

[SabStudiosMusic]

everyone who obtains intellectual property without proper means of payment should rot in hell because they are aiding in the loss of THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS..... this is not the democracy America is supposed to be...where we hurt fellow citizens livelihoods by being ignorant to the fact that intellectual property creation is a job and without being subsizdized one way or another will hurt OUR CULTURAL CAPITAL and that CC my friends, is WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT

[nachoijp]

@SabStudiosMusic stop posting the same comment in every video about copyright... you're pirating yourself!! :P



[valmont7]

@phoenixILharabec in the nineties my secret name for sex was "making copies"

[Tanoro]

"If I hadn't just made a copy of your content, it wouldn't show up on my screen." Brilliant point! xD Everytime your web browser hits a webpage, the content on it is copied and cached.

[phoenixILharabec]

Yeh Ctrl+C is best thing in world right after Ctr+V and rigth after sex .......... but isnt sex just another form of copying :) THINK ABOUT IT

[fenghuanghun]

@phoenixILharabec sex isn't a form of copying. it's a remix!

[AkariChain]

but what if u made something that u wanted to show the world :o and someone copy off there ass ?

[includao]

@AkariChain Like the way people copied off ideas when there was no such thing as copyright? Or like the way they copied peoples excelent ideas and got their way into making money, leaving the original creator poor and without a cent?

[AkariChain]

@includao ohhh thanks :3

[fotyafotieva]

копирование не преступление когда человек САМ выложил это в интернет или кому то дал или...А не когда к нему в квартиру пробрались , в сумку и всем раскопировали!!!

[pizdaloxam]

@fotyafotieva you got a point there.

[sagaofbluewing]

Let's be real here, the guy that made this video just wants to download movies for free. There's nothing artistic about his aims.

[sofiasmartis]

@sagaofbluewing

oh did you just fund out the only true motives all artists share? sounds amazing.

ok let's suppose he never pays for artistic creation, the economic consequences of him watching them and him not watching them are pretty much the same:

artists he likes will be less successful and propably less productive. that's the price he pays.

[sagaofbluewing]

@sofiasmartis "artists" all have different motives, much like people. The rest of what you said makes little to no fucking sense.

[ragerpez]

@sagaofbluewing lol at you guys

[sofiasmartis]

the internet is also nothing like commercial usage, eh?

it's not like you (directly and indirectly) pay people to pertmanently run their computers…

no srsly, i dont like that nc-stuff. it implies everone tho sells it is an asshole and evenyone who buy it is an dumbass…

[sagaofbluewing]

It's just an elaborate argument for being a cheap and/or uncreative asshole. When a black person steals something or makes a copy without someone's permission, they know it's wrong. When a white person does it, they announce the shit and act like they're fucking entitled to do so. The real problem here is white people's sense of entitlement, like how they were entitled take land from the native Americans because they felt they were too primitive. F U white people!!

[ragerpez]

@sagaofbluewing you fucking idiot

[sagaofbluewing]

@ragerpez well, the fact that I'm arguing with a bunch of morons on the internet certainly doesn't refute your claim.

[sofiasmartis]

@sagaofbluewing

yeah, idenifying with skin-color really brought humanity much furter, like, not.

and i have no problem supporting artists, since Flattr i do it pretty reguarly, and propably better than major-labels would do.

but i have a problem with people who want to restrict me from using of my computer and the communication with others in an absolutely peaceful way.

i share my ideas and designs myself because one head is to small for them.

and fuck your racist bullshit.

[sagaofbluewing]

@sofiasmartis Black people "bootleg". That's not racist it's a fact. I have lots of black friends who do it. White people bitch and moan cause they want shit for free and they want it to be legal and black people know it. No sir or madame, fuck you. :p

[sofiasmartis]

@sagaofbluewing

so what you are really saying is 'black' and 'white' people both make copies, but 'white' people think they are morally entitled to it while 'black' people don't. for whatever reason.

so according to you 'black' people know it's wrong and they do it anyway. how could that make them morally superior?

it's shitty reasoning, my dear saga…

[sagaofbluewing]

@sofiasmartis it's not about moral superiority, it's about black people keeping it "real" with themselves and white people feeling entitled to things for free simply because of the ease of theft and/or convenience for whatever means they need it. Self-righteous justification.

[sofiasmartis]

@sagaofbluewing

oh yeah, and: the imperalist shitheads who killed thousands of native americans felt superior because of some vaque connection of genetic and sociological properties.

(funny enough, they didn't have a clue of genetics or sociology)

see any relation to the things you say?

what consequence can we draw from the difference you state? should we separate 'white' people and thead them differently?

because if you do, you just may discover some similarities you may don't like.

[sagaofbluewing]

@sofiasmartis (your grammatical and spelling errors are throwing me off) Firstly: you're an idiot. Secondly: yeah they did feel superior, they were technologically more advanced like the way you are versus some kid in Ethiopia. AND.. white people separate themselves or rather segregate others. Your closing comment is garbled with illiteracy, so I can't respond properly. But, hey, thanks for playing!!

[mcbublick]

damn that was a good video. i found ninas song and it led me to this video.. and i subbed to you. great job!

[killigin]

riddle me this then. What is your view of what copyright is and what your view of a patent is? And to be fair I am all for returning the years a copyright can last back to 14 years instead of the absurd time it is now.

[killigin]

Here are a couple of problems with your idea of "free culture"

1: copyright laws are pro-capitalism because if anyone can just "copy"/take what they feel like then there is no real trade. You take and I/the creator gains no benefit.

2: You are in the idea of forcing everyone to take your idea despite that most people make things for profit.

3: If you eliminate any real profit from those who make things, you kill innovation. People are greedy and always will be. learn economics.

[soylentgreenb]

@killigin In a world without patents you still have the first mover advantage. You initially have monopoly pricing until anyone catches up and you can establish a reputation for quality before anyone else and you can move to greater economies of scale before anyone else. Because you cannot rest on your laurels and have monopoly pricing for an extended period of time, you're got a much stronger incentive to continue R&D to come up with a steady stream of minor improvements to keep the lead.

[soylentgreenb]

@killigin In a world without copyright it is much easier to create things. All creative work is derivative; without copyright you can have cultural progress in much smaller increments which take much less work; trial and error becomes much cheaper. You can start from existing material and slowly diverge rather than starting directly from scratch. Without copyright you have the incentive to create services like World of Warcraft, live concerts or official merchandize of some kind.

[soylentgreenb]

@killigin There is also the question of morality. If my CNC machine is really my own, then I can machine whatever shapes I want out of a block of aluminium without fear of reprisal. If my piano is really mine I can play any chord-progression that strikes my fancy in public, for any reason, without fear. "Intellectual property" is an infringement of real property and requires a massive and intrusive government in order to police.

[goacolyte]

@killigin

I think you made a mistake there in nr 1. If anyone can just copy/take what they need, there is no need for you to benefit from your creation. You just create something cool or you don't, in both cases you take what you need afterwards.

[goacolyte]

Oh and what really kills innovation is that you can't just use what is there already and work with that, but you have to reinvent the wheel or buy a license for it.

[killigin]

@goacolyte

You miss my point. If I make item XX and it took me days to create and lots of energy and I wish to sell it to some one else for a profit. If I upload the graphic to say deviantart and there was a price tag on it. I have copy written the piece of art. Then someone just COPIES it of the site. Then he copies and distributes it.  Now I may not get the gratification for what I made. It is up to the person who creates item XX to decide the fate of item XX.

[ewpaisley]

@killigin Yeah, boohoo Just because you spent time on it, doesn't mean it has any trade value. It might be fun, useful, silly or have any other qualities, but it's trade value is what people are willing to pay for it. In this case of files, they're willing to pay the time it takes them to download it. That'd be a problem if there weren't infinite potential copies of your picture, and if your picture weren't left intact -- which it is.

[mikezimmer999]

Very nicely done. Thanks.

[djnodj]

smug fck

3:29

wrong

learn it, figure it out, get out of your house once in awhile.

build something yourself, and you may one day understand.

i apologize for giving you any attention.

HA HA HA!!!

[gatosado]

haha I met Nina the other day. A friend made a documentary about her and the copyright issue. She sang the same song you do at the end haha.

She is making an animation for it lol

Good video!!!

[norabean]

I think Jakob is my soulmate and when he becomes a scientist (umm maybe he's legal) I wish we hold hands and run into many sunsets..

aka: Liked the video!

[IamNotTheMoon]

Yours is a much better version of "Copying Isn't Theft" than the original.

[zenkharma]

Why is it taking capitalism so long to die?

[charonme]

Haha, perhaps because it has not been even born yet! What you observe around you is far from capitalism.

[sillymesilly]

@zenkharma here's the news flash for u. It won't. Communism failed. And I hope America doesn't submit to Socialism, cause that just communism with a mask on it.

[zenkharma]

Historians (if we get that far) will view capitalism not as a system but an illness.

[sharperguy]

@sillymesilly Here's a newsflash for you. America has already 'submitted' to socialism. And by that I don't mean just for healthcare. Here is a list of just a few of the things which are 'socialised' (another word for state-controlled monopoly) in america: Education, roads, police, dispute resolution, defence, money, many forms of standards regulation, aid for the poor, etc etc.

[sharperguy]

@zenkharma Because capitalism is one of the best ways to improve society and increase wealth for all. Copyright law is, in fact, anti-capitalist because it perverts free trade and is another example of how the use of violence to achieve goals is a bad idea.

[soylentgreenb]

@sharperguy Indeed. "Intellectual property" is state granted monopoly to infringe on everyone else's physical property. The justification for "intellectual property" is the proposition that monopoly pricing will give an increased incentive for creative activity. As far as I can tell it does not accomplish this; I'm less sure about copyright than I am about patents for which I can list a laundry list of cases where patents did a huge amount of damage to creativity.

[sharperguy]

@soylentgreenb Funnily enough patents are not even required because there is no problem with people copying ideas. Most people think (naturally) that it is much easier for a firm to just copy others ideas rather than develop their own. In fact, once to take into account the fact that you need up-to-date employees who can understand the new ideas and who must also be working on their own research, the cost is about the same as developing from scratch.

[PerErik87]

5 #3¤%# Stars for you. Please make a cut with only the song in the end. And call it pro piracy ad.

[kiaparowits]

Your post is AWESOME! "Sita Sings The Blues" is also AWESOME! Free culture... whatever, i think it should be called AWESOME CULTURE!!

Seriously. Bad news about the Piratbay, but good post. Nice to see some sense on this stuff.

[Falco98]

You might also mention the band Harvey Danger, which made their latest album available online in high-quality formats via torrent download, completely free.

[cmpilato]

Nicely done. It's ... a little weird to see someone lip-syncing to my voice. But hey, it's for a good cause.