I was looking at DCC systems and I am at a fork in the road between Digitrax and NCE. Is the NCE power cab system expandable? If anyone can answer please? If anyone knows the up and downs of both systems please let me know.
@LycoValleyRRFan Yes it is expandable. You can even go wireless with it. I would say that both starter systems are pretty much the same, except with NCE being handheld and the Digitrax being a box and the Digitrax has a few less programming options. I like the NCE and I would reccomend it to anyone over Digitrax.
if i have 75 feet of track ( i am getting some on ebay its CODE 100) and if i get the NCE power cab controller,,,is that all i would need to run 2-4 trains DCC? or does it not come with a power box, source?
@SouthDakota58 Hey Guy :):):) i can answer your ? it's 6 with no problem i have one on my table at present and it works terrific. But i'm positive it's 6 anymore and you'll probably need a booster i remember read'in that somewhere. But be sure when you do plug that in make sure it's plugged in on the correct side. if not the handheld will register power but there's no way the red led is EVER gonna light at the plug-in face. that one had me stymied real good, before i FINALLY figured it outLOL
Hello Mike, I have a question. When you set up the NCE Power cab do you have to wire the layout before running or you don't have to wire the layout at all?
@AmtrakTitan455 - that all depends on your layout. I built a layout from one of Atlas' layout books. For that layout, Atlas points out the spots where you should wire to ensure adequate power with no dead spots.
@AmtrakTitan455 As a recommendation, you should have a minimum of 12 gauge wire that's powering your track every 10-15 feet - to avoid any voltage dropping. I prefer every 8 feet to ensure good power all the way through the line. If your room is 10' x 12', and your track goes all the way around your room once or twice, you can run your train with just one connection, but keep in mind, the voltage loss may cause your engine to slow down in certain areas for voltage loss if powered by only 1 pt.
@teddybeareleventeen - now that I have gotten my "feet we" with laying track on a layout, I'd rather go with long sections of flex track ... I don't like messing with all those track connectors which increases the chance of electrical drop issues
ok, im back for one, Im gonna be getting this in the spring for $160. On my layout i plan to have 4 trains running most of the time. 2 of them will be DC since they will be one solid track no switches just one train each. now on the other 2 i will have them connected, so 2 mainlines connected by 2 switches going all the way around my layout. both of them will also be connected to a yard with some engines in it. will this work for that? 2 main lines + a yard?
@PRRK4Lover If you use a seperate DC throttle with supply for your DC tracks then that will be ok. The NCE DCC systems are not able to control any DC loco's unlike some other makers of DCC, due to the way they put power on the rails( I won't go into detail here) . The flipside is that you can get really cheap DCC decoders nowadays, and converting your non DCC loco's should have to cost too much. Adding sound however costs a bit more.
@PRRK4Lover As long as your DC is wired on a separate track from your DCC, yes your plan will work. One great thing about DCC is, no matter how many engines you have on your track, as long as they each have their own number code, you can move any without having blocks on your track. You can even program them to run head on into each other if you wish, which you can't do that on DC track, although that's a very bad idea considering the cost of DCC engines.
Great! When ever you have the time. I just finished watching a DVD called Street Running--Green Frog is selling them. You might want to look at this as it's very well done and could give you some ideas.
do u have the standard power (13.5 volts) or another power pac......I have a problem with mine (13.5 volts) with sound locos on a big layout cutting out of power can u help me??
Yeah I have the standard. Two things, have you tried cleaning wheels or cleaning track? And also do you have more than one spot powering your layout (i.e. bus lines)?
My wheels are clean and i just cleaned my track.... i currently have the + on one side and the - on the other...i might run a set of double wires....do u think it could be because of the sound system taking alot of power
Did you need to buy any power supply with it/ or did it come with everything?
The NCE look very cool. and you you please tell me where you bought? websit? thank you. i'll appericate any help that you can give me. thak you very much
im from the lmmrrc ant the san diego model railroad museam and we run pro cab and we run wireless and wierd and if you bring an power cab theoltle and with the other cord it came with you can run it on an pro cab throltle
I am looking at getting back into model train and I have a Quick question, So you can team 2 or more loco up together to work as a team on the NEC power cab?
I'm just curious (and I don't know very much about DCC--only what I've been reading lately), how did you decide upon NCE? Good luck with it AND with your railroad.
the only way i know is to have a dc power pack, the only way i know how to do it with nce is to have decoder equipped switches, whitch are a little pricy
the system was $200 at georges trains in markham. Sadly, i have no sound in any of my locos, I'll prob just buy a loco with sound the next time i get one.
nice
jiggy588 1 month ago
Nice video! Nobody ever showed the power side of it. Can you tell me , how you can do the light effects in the locomotives?. Thanks!
hemidenis 6 months ago
Hi Delic
HaltonRailfan 7 months ago
Is it difficult to set this up? Or is it fairly easy if you know how to wire?
177987auprr1 7 months ago
@177987auprr1 Very easy, even if you don't knwo how to wire.
MikeDelic14 7 months ago
do you connect it to the track where you connect dc to?
fearlessforever9 10 months ago
@fearlessforever9 yes.
MikeDelic14 10 months ago
@MikeDelic14 does it have sound buttons
ipwnu981 7 months ago
@ipwnu981 yes.
MikeDelic14 7 months ago
@MikeDelic14 were did you get it how much
ipwnu981 7 months ago
@ipwnu981 I got it at my local hobby shop. I cant remember how much I payed for it because that was over 3 years ago. I'll ballpark it and say $175?
MikeDelic14 7 months ago
@MikeDelic14 how do you turn it off
ipwnu981 7 months ago
Nice job ! Thinking about going to n gauge too !! Thanks for sharing
lionellance 1 year ago
I was looking at DCC systems and I am at a fork in the road between Digitrax and NCE. Is the NCE power cab system expandable? If anyone can answer please? If anyone knows the up and downs of both systems please let me know.
LycoValleyRRFan 1 year ago
@LycoValleyRRFan Yes it is expandable. You can even go wireless with it. I would say that both starter systems are pretty much the same, except with NCE being handheld and the Digitrax being a box and the Digitrax has a few less programming options. I like the NCE and I would reccomend it to anyone over Digitrax.
MikeDelic14 1 year ago
@MikeDelic14 Thanks Mike I am still thinking but I might go to NCE.
Mark
LycoValleyRRFan 1 year ago
@MikeDelic14 I got NCE. I like it. My life like track help too. 15 years never had a problem with electrical conductivity.
LycoValleyRRFan 10 months ago
if i have 75 feet of track ( i am getting some on ebay its CODE 100) and if i get the NCE power cab controller,,,is that all i would need to run 2-4 trains DCC? or does it not come with a power box, source?
Flipzsd2 1 year ago
Can you run another manufactuers product (digitrax for example) with the Power cab?
will77537 1 year ago
How much is this DCC system??
knightbob81 1 year ago
you can get it for $150 on modeltrainstuff, I think i got mine for $180 at my local shop
MikeDelic14 1 year ago
@knightbob81 If you've got a hobby show coming up, there are usually good deals. last hobby show i was at they were going for $140 canadian.
will77537 1 year ago
@will77537 wow. $140 Canadian is like $200 US now
lanesteele240 1 year ago
How many engines can you run without a booster?
SouthDakota58 1 year ago
I don't know the answer to that, sorry lol. I normally have about 5 engines running and no problems.
MikeDelic14 1 year ago
@MikeDelic14 OK thanks. Thats good for me because I only have 5 dcc engines.
SouthDakota58 1 year ago
@SouthDakota58 Hey Guy :):):) i can answer your ? it's 6 with no problem i have one on my table at present and it works terrific. But i'm positive it's 6 anymore and you'll probably need a booster i remember read'in that somewhere. But be sure when you do plug that in make sure it's plugged in on the correct side. if not the handheld will register power but there's no way the red led is EVER gonna light at the plug-in face. that one had me stymied real good, before i FINALLY figured it outLOL
welder541 1 year ago
@SouthDakota58 if its a 3-5amp power input then around 100 if its 1/1.5-3 then anywhere from 3 to 9
pyronathanpyro 1 year ago
Hello Mike, I have a question. When you set up the NCE Power cab do you have to wire the layout before running or you don't have to wire the layout at all?
AmtrakTitan455 1 year ago
You don't nessecarily need to wire the entire layout, you just need to plug the wires into one spot on the track to provide power.
MikeDelic14 1 year ago
@AmtrakTitan455 - that all depends on your layout. I built a layout from one of Atlas' layout books. For that layout, Atlas points out the spots where you should wire to ensure adequate power with no dead spots.
jgehbrr 1 year ago
@AmtrakTitan455 As a recommendation, you should have a minimum of 12 gauge wire that's powering your track every 10-15 feet - to avoid any voltage dropping. I prefer every 8 feet to ensure good power all the way through the line. If your room is 10' x 12', and your track goes all the way around your room once or twice, you can run your train with just one connection, but keep in mind, the voltage loss may cause your engine to slow down in certain areas for voltage loss if powered by only 1 pt.
Silver1Sprg 1 year ago
i love it i have the the same one
elr2141979 1 year ago
gotta get me 1
strobson1 1 year ago
jugando dcc
com1473usa 1 year ago
Good Stuff! Dead spots are the only problem with sectional track pieces. I have a Lenz LH90. They got me with the ten year warranty!
teddybeareleventeen 2 years ago
@teddybeareleventeen - now that I have gotten my "feet we" with laying track on a layout, I'd rather go with long sections of flex track ... I don't like messing with all those track connectors which increases the chance of electrical drop issues
jgehbrr 1 year ago
hehe i accedently said the same question again sorry bout that what i ment to ask could it go with kato n scale sets
AaronandMitchellSHOW 2 years ago
can you use that for n scale dcc
AaronandMitchellSHOW 2 years ago
ok, im back for one, Im gonna be getting this in the spring for $160. On my layout i plan to have 4 trains running most of the time. 2 of them will be DC since they will be one solid track no switches just one train each. now on the other 2 i will have them connected, so 2 mainlines connected by 2 switches going all the way around my layout. both of them will also be connected to a yard with some engines in it. will this work for that? 2 main lines + a yard?
PRRK4Lover 2 years ago
yes, but it will not run your DC stuff
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
@MikeDelic14 actually it will. you just need program it to 00 and you can run a DC engine. it just has a really annoying buzz the whole time.
will77537 1 year ago
@PRRK4Lover If you use a seperate DC throttle with supply for your DC tracks then that will be ok. The NCE DCC systems are not able to control any DC loco's unlike some other makers of DCC, due to the way they put power on the rails( I won't go into detail here) . The flipside is that you can get really cheap DCC decoders nowadays, and converting your non DCC loco's should have to cost too much. Adding sound however costs a bit more.
k2kkoos 1 year ago
@PRRK4Lover - it should work, as long as you wire adequately (at least a couple spots along each mainline, key spots in the yard)
jgehbrr 1 year ago
@jgehbrr ohh, ive actualyl decided im getting MRC Prodigy advance 2 squared...
PRRK4Lover 1 year ago
@PRRK4Lover As long as your DC is wired on a separate track from your DCC, yes your plan will work. One great thing about DCC is, no matter how many engines you have on your track, as long as they each have their own number code, you can move any without having blocks on your track. You can even program them to run head on into each other if you wish, which you can't do that on DC track, although that's a very bad idea considering the cost of DCC engines.
Silver1Sprg 1 year ago
Tonys Trains sells them for 140$ flat rate with everything included such as the stuff to turn it into a Procab
2Bmonster 2 years ago
could you use that to control n scale dcc
AaronandMitchellSHOW 2 years ago
I believe so.
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
@AaronandMitchellSHOW yes
PRRK4Lover 2 years ago
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CODING247ON360 2 years ago
I got it for $185 at the time, which was more than a year ago. I have no idea how much it is now.
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
now they run for $175
andrzejowiec 2 years ago
i got one on ebay for $124.00
andrzejowiec 2 years ago
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CODING247ON360 2 years ago
thats cool i cant wait to set mine up bun now i need decoders
andrzejowiec 2 years ago
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CODING247ON360 2 years ago
ya i need to find a decoder for my nw2 and 2 dash 9 and a ac4400 thats going to be fun
andrzejowiec 2 years ago
if you wanted to do a double header how would you do that
AaronandMitchellSHOW 2 years ago
use the consist function, read it out of the mannual the first time, but after that it's easy
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
I just bought the nce power cab. but its not running my engines. it makes this beeping sound. do you know whats the problem?
altoonaPArailfan 2 years ago
Check the wiring in your decoders.
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
thanks! but....... what is the decoders?
altoonaPArailfan 2 years ago
The reciever in your locomotive that responds to the signals that the Power Cab sends. Without one, your locomotive will not run with DCC.
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
Great! When ever you have the time. I just finished watching a DVD called Street Running--Green Frog is selling them. You might want to look at this as it's very well done and could give you some ideas.
sakcad 2 years ago
Yes, if it's not too much effort. I suspect it' involves quite some time. If it is don't bother.
sakcad 2 years ago
Ok, I'll do one, It only takes a few seconds. I'll try to have the video up by tomorrow.
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
Nice--could you give us a heads up on programming the diesels
sakcad 2 years ago
What do you mean by a heads up? Like how to program?
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
do u have the standard power (13.5 volts) or another power pac......I have a problem with mine (13.5 volts) with sound locos on a big layout cutting out of power can u help me??
abrownyo 2 years ago
Yeah I have the standard. Two things, have you tried cleaning wheels or cleaning track? And also do you have more than one spot powering your layout (i.e. bus lines)?
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
My wheels are clean and i just cleaned my track.... i currently have the + on one side and the - on the other...i might run a set of double wires....do u think it could be because of the sound system taking alot of power
abrownyo 2 years ago
My brother is gonna get one ( maybe) can u put dem togetha??
abrownyo 2 years ago
Need another power district with higher voltage output booster and power supply.
dcctrain 2 years ago
I have the powercab pro. I love it
xstell132 2 years ago
how many engines can it have programmed in it? cuz i might buy one
PlanBSkater3191 2 years ago
I beleive as many as you want but the thing is the one i have is 550$
xstell132 2 years ago
What kind of decoders did you use for the engines because I'm having troubles programming my locos
nolsknows1 2 years ago
The decoders in these specific locos are NCE.. I havent had problems programming with any decoders though
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
very nice, are you going to do another video on the power cab?
308727 2 years ago
This is Sweet. I think I will start building my layout. DCC has
come a long way since I built my first system. A CTC-16 That
I built back in 1981.
dreambuilders48808 2 years ago
did you have to wire the track any special way for the DCC?
nolsknows1 2 years ago
Nope, same way as DC.
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
That's great, thanks for responding
nolsknows1 2 years ago
i have the same one i got mini cheap ill maybe post some train videos but the nce is nice and easy to work
WISCONSINKID4 2 years ago
Did you need to buy any power supply with it/ or did it come with everything?
The NCE look very cool. and you you please tell me where you bought? websit? thank you. i'll appericate any help that you can give me. thak you very much
jbhc71 2 years ago
It came with a power supply. I bought mine at a train store in Toronto
MikeDelic14 2 years ago
i cant wait to get mine!!!!
csxgk94 2 years ago
i think im gonna buy this. it is a lot of fun. since im part of a club, they have the same thing and i was running the trains it was so fun.
i think im gonna get this. idk
ballparkfrank10 3 years ago
yo man great vid i just picked mine up today got it for $141
just curious how much did everyone elses pay
geargrinder12 3 years ago
after i saw urs i bought one and i just got it in today. i love this thing. mine cost $160.00 that includes shipping
bullriderfxxx 3 years ago
where did u buy urs?
ballparkfrank10 3 years ago
i got mine off ebay and got mine for $160.00
bullriderfxxx 3 years ago
oh i got mine new off a website for $145.00. i was just wondering where u got it
ballparkfrank10 3 years ago
how much did it cost? and does it come with sdecoders?
stillfreefilms 3 years ago
around $200, and no
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
do your trains hoave sound tracks
growst212 3 years ago
That is so cool! I can't wait for my DCC system
onr2100 3 years ago
Oh I am so getting that, thats awesome and I bet a great price too, huh?
craz3chri5 3 years ago
I've been thinking of a new layout with DCC and the NCE pro cab looks good.
railfanfromiantha 3 years ago
definitly cool im gonna look into it.
NorfolkWestern34 3 years ago
Dose it work on all typs of HO track cuz i have the track without the plastick risers under it ?
pat123pat456 3 years ago
yup, it works with all types
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Is it an issue you can only have 2 locos in recall?
sulacouk 3 years ago
how did you learn to put the wires together
earthsaver5544 3 years ago
the instructions that came with it... its pretty simple, just plug them into the track and youre ready to go
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Nice work! 5/5!
nssd70m2 3 years ago
have the zepher digitrax one same thing dcc rox
flexspinner 3 years ago
oh yea!!
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
How much is this???
norfolkdash9 3 years ago
around $200.. then $25 for a decoder
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Gosh darn it, a little too much.
norfolkdash9 3 years ago
you only have one feeder on the layout? Becuae i'm wiring my DCC system too and just wondering
Tjsingle14 3 years ago
ya i only got one feeder right now, thats probably all ill have, theres no power drop at all:D i'm gonna buy the booster for it though..
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
You'll find the SB3 and power brick hooks up really easily, and works flawllessly. The cab boots up right away when you turn the system on too!
pacbelt 3 years ago
ok, kool, thanks for the tip
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Love my NCE Powercab! I added the SB3 Smart Booster and P515 power supply easily. It's just a user friendly system!
Nice Demo!
pacbelt 3 years ago
thanks! ya i wanna get the booster too, maybe later this year
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
im from the lmmrrc ant the san diego model railroad museam and we run pro cab and we run wireless and wierd and if you bring an power cab theoltle and with the other cord it came with you can run it on an pro cab throltle
web123456788 3 years ago
you know you can consist the 2 loco togrgether
web123456788 3 years ago
i know, but 2 seperate locos was a better demonstration
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
I am looking at getting back into model train and I have a Quick question, So you can team 2 or more loco up together to work as a team on the NEC power cab?
19redskins71 2 years ago
yes that is called a consest
web123456788 2 years ago
@19redskins71 - yep. You can program a consist for the two or even assign the same loco number to both of them and run that way
jgehbrr 1 year ago
waht kind of trak do you use
web123456788 3 years ago
Bachmann EZ Track.
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
I'm just curious (and I don't know very much about DCC--only what I've been reading lately), how did you decide upon NCE? Good luck with it AND with your railroad.
CCWgr 3 years ago
its what my local hobby shop sold, and it had the most features
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Thanks for demonstrating your new DCC system. Looks great. Good luck as you continue working on your railroad.
CCWgr 3 years ago
no problem, i hadnt seen many videos on youtube about DCC, so i thing this one was a must.
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
thanks
kylewebbgmail 3 years ago
no problem
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
if i were to buy the nce powercab would i have to buy a dc power pack to run my switches or could i use the nce
kylewebbgmail 3 years ago
the only way i know is to have a dc power pack, the only way i know how to do it with nce is to have decoder equipped switches, whitch are a little pricy
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
be lucky you didn't get digitrax, I've run into a few design and feature errors........
jimmyp42002 3 years ago
tru, i was gonna get digitrax but no hobby shops in my area had it.
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Hi there, since you have dcc you need sound locomotives, i suggest the atlas gold series, I have a b23-7, it is amazing,
Good Work
Tjsingle14 3 years ago
ya thats the next thing on the list, im thinkin atlas gold or ath genesis
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
sorry:( i possted it to much
pimposcar1000 3 years ago
how do you work the switchs with that? you have like 5 or more how do you use them?
pimposcar1000 3 years ago
how do you work the switchs with that? you have like 5 or more how do you use them?
pimposcar1000 3 years ago
i just manually switch them, ill have them wired once I get the final track plan
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Love that Power cab
chessie93 3 years ago
nice to see you got your new NCE DCC system.i,m thinking about getting one.how much was yours?do you locos have sound?
RailFanDavid 3 years ago
the standard version with around 2 amps is about $150
gentarion 3 years ago
the system was $200 at georges trains in markham. Sadly, i have no sound in any of my locos, I'll prob just buy a loco with sound the next time i get one.
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
oh ya:D
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
nice!
Stephenson18 3 years ago
SICK! i wish i could afford something like that!
thetrainman407 3 years ago
birthday present:D but i bought the decoders..
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
oh ok. cool!!
thetrainman407 3 years ago
that is sick! when i (might) start a layout ima by one of those! great vid!
pimposcar1000 3 years ago
thanks!
MikeDelic14 3 years ago
Bitchin'! awsome shit What is the grey loco a Seaboard?
Derailedtrain666 3 years ago
yep!
MikeDelic14 3 years ago