What I find odd is that people involved in such a hellish conspiracy would blab to media people. People too stupid to even keep their mouths shut about an event hat had not even taken place. Any explanation to account for that stupidity?
Notice CNN Dub2 04 has sound here at 5:43 .It was removed when NIST released the clip in Freedom of Information Act release to the public. I've uploaded to Youtube a 'Contrast Enhanced' version of CNN Dub2 04. It reveals some very interesting things on the north face of WTC7 before the collapse - watch?v=VYNesSmwF7I
What worries me, is that the destruction of 9/11 was for the benefit of many world leaders and corporations that got rich trough this event. One of those with a additional motive which is war is country Israel.
Also Bush was not around at the event, and never opted to fly back to the white house, in other words he basically neglected the events on 9/11. Also bush seemed to know about a plane hitting the second tower before it happened.
Bush is a easy manipulating fucked up alcoholic redneck
A very small chance people would hear that. And again, bombs can be associated with other things in a catastrophic scenario as 9/11.
Also I have seen no debree hitting WTC 7, aswell as seeing bombs go off.
For the latter, you never see bombs go off as these are controller explosives. They often use no shrapnel or kinetic energy only at controlled areas, as hence thats why theyre called controlled demolitions.
Some controlled demoltion cannot even be seen as it goes standing a few feet away.
falling rubble also sounds like bombs going off. I think they had a perfect background riot audio of all the rubble and fleeing people to mask these bombs. Even if heard it would be associated with falling debree rather then bombs themselves.
Also, the bombs must be placed in the core of the WTC towers as thats the place where the structure is reinforced (its the root of the WTC basically)
What people dont get is that if WTC 7 for instance collapsed due to debree, (which wasnt that visible on the footages I have seen) And if it did, not the entire width/length of the building should have collapsed. That never happens when a building collapses uncontrolled. One side of the building oftenly remains intact.
3 towers that day (WTC 1/2/7) Desintegrated into the ground as if it was made from paper.
That is typically a demolition as sometimes seen in las vegas. Its the only way
If it was a controlled Demolition you would have heard the charges going off from miles away. she clearly did not know which building was WTC 7, and furthermore at 3pm, the FDNY evacuated the area knowing that it was inevitable to stop the collapse. as said before by SpartaClan that's the rest of the info. It was poor news coverage like usual.
WTC 7 collapsed because of structural impact of the other collapses. Firefighters and responders knew hours before-hand and evacuated all personnel. The people on the ground reported significant damage, including a "20 story hole" in the face of the building. The fires were fueled by 24,000 gallons of diesel fuel in separate generators, of which were the locations of the fires. Tower 7 collapsed shortly after one of the three trusses gave-way.
A few witnesses heard explosions and what sounded like bombs but that can all be explained if your not retarded. Anyone who believes in this controlled demolition theory is calling liars out of the civilian witnesses, fire chief, firemen, port authority, and policemen who saw building 7 engulfed in flames,structural damage, bowing, leaning, and predicting it was going to collapse hours before it did.
The truth movement implies that people that push the official story are liars and scum. irony
I don't think you are lying either, I just think you're ignorant, and you're trying to support the official story because you can't imagine something this huge being passed off on so many people. But there are plenty of examples of "Big Lies". Lies so huge that no one could believe that anyone could get away with it...which is exactly why they DO get away with it.
you could also review the oral transcripts of the NYFD and the audio recordings of their calls -- you have researched this I assume - or perhaps you haven't and just like to post lies on youtube
@blackjerryboymetal I've been to the A&Etruth911 website and they have engineers alright... but only 4% of them are structural engineers. I'm not even sure if they're still liscensed. Some are from different countries too. The other engineers have nothing to do with structures, they're electrical engineers, landscaping engineers, computer engineers and many others who are not liscensed or certified. The A&E list is a big fat lie, it's just a hodge podge of people with very minimal "experts."
wonder how long it will be before Jeff Becker gets killed by a "crazy lone gunman" and how long it will take America to believe it and be convinced...
@allstar00442288 Becker is wrong and ill informed. By saying that WTC 7 wasn't rained on by falling debris he is 100% wrong. It's obvious he was stretching to get the minority vote of truthers in the state. Then he gives Richard Gage a shout out which is hilarious considering Gage doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
@godzilla1077 Even if he was wrong about that (which he wasnt, debris didnt rain on the fucking building, a thin dust cloud did) it doesnt matter because wtc7 was a controlled demolition, it feel at freefall speed and turned to dust.
Since there are statements from NYFD member on the scene, as well as video and photo evidence of damage, we can conclude that you are a liar or just simply ignorant -- which is it?
@allstar00442288 It didn't fall at free fall speed. Dust didnt just fall on it, huge chunks of debris fell on it. WTC 7 lost 20 storys near the baseline of south west corner of the building. Fire fighters on site confirmed it, pictures confirm it and videos confirm it. The fire just made it worse and it didn't fall at free fall speed. It was a gradual collapse that took 18 seconds in total. The collapse began at the southwest end of the building.
@shermanr6 I know it hurts that the inside job thoery doesn't work unless facts and science is bent to make thier argument. The Truth Movement is dying slowly.
@shermanr6 Hmmm so you're asking truthers for thumbs up on a pro truther video site. That's the equivilance of asking Packer fans if they love Green Bay. Funny how you skip an actual discussion and cop out while asking for the support of your misguided crowd. Seems to me you can't even dispute what I have said a while ago.
@godzilla1077 "TRUTHER???" I'm just your avg college educated American father that worries wtf the US has turned into. You can label me to sound like a nut but at the end of the day I am no different from you other than my eyes are open to the obvious. If you don't find the need to question 9/11 and more specifically WTC 7 then you my friend must be in denial or just plain dumb!!! At this point I'm leaning towards both.
@shermanr6 So are you telling me the damage that WTC 7 sustained from the collapse of the north tower is make believe? Even though theres pics, videos and NYFD testimony confirming the serious damage that WTC 7 has suffered. Not to mention there was no seismic activity during the collapse until the building hit the floor? Lets not forget it didn't fell on it's footprint. The evidence is there, you can ignore it all you want but it's there.
whoooooweeeee! look at the jew lady at bbc act so dramatic talking about a building that hasn't collapsed yet, except saying it had. Just like 3 other networks. hmmm. 1 a coincidence, 2....wtf? 3 networks saying it.....give me a break, the odds of that happening if not coordinated is trillions to one. The zionists with rothshcilds money said they would do to europe and america what they did to russia by robbing them blind. Our congress should be hanging right now. Ben franklin on jews.
absolutely -- the NYFD commanders on the scene all agreed the building was doomed. The NYFD had over 300 of its brothers murdered that day --- these are men that run into a fire to save others -- they sure as hell would raise the roof if they had issue with this
To see Jeff Becker talking about WTC7 , in 2010, and managing not only to get his facts wrong but to trot out the same distorted claptrap about the BBC report , Larry Silverstein, pull-it etc. - it's enough to make you weep.
Jeff Becker got WTC7 into "polite society" ...good job!
Let's remember, the anomaly of WTC7 is the nearly simultaneous collapse at free fall acceleration for 2.25 seconds admitted by NIST.
We know there was damage to the south side of WTC7 but the north side collapsed just as easily. Some say the damage to WTC7 was from falling debris but we do not know for sure; maybe explosives caused it. The debris from WTC7 was recycled except for a few beams, one of which had very unusual melting.
@Skeptic121 well there is a good example in NZ just now. After the earthquake a quarter of a big buildings vertical support collums were smashed, some of its foundation sinking and there were lots of fires. Yet even after a month it still stands there on a lean with a quarter of it sunken into the ground lol so it makes you think. Yet here is the mighty WTC7, a few fires and some external damage then all of sudden it comes perfectly down to the ground. Yea right...i wasn't born yesterday mate.
@Skeptic121 in NZ we are waiting for a big building to come down that got stuffed by the earthquake. But it insists it stands on a lean with a quarter of its foundation sunken into the ground. But for some odd reason, it just won't come perfectly down to the ground, even after all the aftershocks, like the WTC7 did that had far far less damage...how strange. I guess it only works like this in America, what a shame because they need it to come perfectly down too, unlike the other buildings ;)
@FromCanadaEh I really doubt any government officials knew what the hell was going on. These people are not intelligent enough to pull it off. This was something long thought out and involved some real intelligence. One thing you should remember...people in government are people who did not have what it takes to be in the public sector.
@wolfgange63 Cheney isn't no Schmuck ... he was a major player in the private energy sector - do some research - and Condi; another piece of work ... the Rabbit holes go real deep.
The last speaker refers to "excursions abroad". Illegal invasions, rendition, torture and murder more like! The wester powers have the blood of millions on their hands. Through complacency and ignorance the people have facilitated massacres and wars throughout the centruries. now that propaganda and control of information is starting to break, we can see a glimps of the evil that is done in our names. We now have a choice, stand up and have honour, or continue to allow evil to prevail
In a confusing and chaotic situation, mistakes are LIKELY. Saying something nonfactual isn't necessarily decpeption, it can also be a mistake.
Sudden black out: did you notice how the feed was of bad quality right afterwards? Isn't it likely that there was simply a communication overload, bad reception, especially when the place if crawling with reporters transmitting all over the world?
If you guys weren't so paranoid, you'd permit a "mistake" as opposed to a "lie" to explain.
seriously, guys, wtf? do you think that the Biristh reporters were given foreknowledge of the NWO sinister plan? And then they were monitored? So who is "in on it"? Passengers? Their families? World Press? UN? And NO ONE FORM INSIDE leaked anything to weakileaks about THEIR plan?? What??
Isn't a simpler explanation that you are unconsciously giving in to paranoia, as the event left you traumatized and depressed?
When you eliminate the impossible, improbable tends to be truth. Its YOU.
@vdizhoor You're on the right track, but it is the traumatic event that makes most Americans see un-clearly. Emotion took us over. Hitler once said that the largest lies are the easiest to believe. He was evil, but a damn good tyrant. And.. regarding the leaks: in these types of operation only a select few know the big picture (Rumsfeld, Chainey, Bush, CIA and MI5 (the Brits), and various top bankers. The underlings simply carry out their little jobs and know nothing beyond it...
@vdizhoor The BBC were being fed information. The use of words such as "we are being told" our sources are telling us" was repeated throughout the day. They were simply being told what to tell us right from the outset. The official story is a load of rubbish, that much is clear. The "nit picking" should be applied to the official version of events, and what a load of discrepancies arise!
@Denierbud11 Another brainwashed dill pickle and or cowardly and treasonous government shill. You lot stick out like dog's nuts ya stupid cowardly fuckwit.
what a left wing lunatic Jeff Becker is. The constitution was written by racist dead white protestants who were isolationists and traitors to england. Go to hell Jeff Becker you kook and take your theocratic anti-war lunatic support base with you!
there is plenty of info to disregard the bbc's reporting, cnn reported it before bbc did and i believe the bbc got its info from cnn. tower 7 did not fall out of sympathy
@Nick89b You don't see any damage? Does that look like an untouched building to you? google wtc 7 damage starting at 18th floor.. I see a picture and there's a ton of outside damage..clear as day.
@lestliness A few broken windows does not make a huge gouge from the ground up to the 22nd floor. The 18th - 22nd floor is broken out, more thna just the windos. What you have been told is a huge gouge is a smoke screen. Look at it again, that is smoke.
@ISamuelII I can agree that it's not big in comparison the building and I'm pretty sure that's not what took the tower down.. (I don't know).. But to my original argument.. you can't convince me that this building wasn't hit by any debris as this guy in the video has stated.
@lestliness We don't know how long 'this guy' has been looking into it and from whom. There are plenty of disinfo sites out there just begging for some follower of their particular version of events. Nit picking about minor details in the facts does not bust the facts altogether.
@debunkthis911 Are they really running scared? I certainly hope so. I guess that is the real reason Obama has not resigned nor been indicted yet. When Chicago Mafia get scared they go back home to be coddled by family. The money behind 911 funding is linked not just to joint venture Silverstein Properties Insurance fraud but the astounding fraud of a US President who was manufactured to continue to moneylaunder the fraudulent estate of me deceased globally. Sound crazy? I agree but it IS true.HS
When you deny the official version the mainstream people want to know who to point their hatred towards instead. they are happy to blame whoever but they need someone to blame otherwise you can not interest them as they are not particularly interested in the truth only things that they believe are threatening them. So you might as well blame where blame belongs for 911, just another one of Israel´s King David Hotel style false-flag terrorist attacks.
@KombiPode You are absolutely right...I didn't think of that...it is a defense mechanism for a fear, and if you take a defense away, it leaves the person lost, then angry, then they blame you for taking it away...the dynamic of homeostasis leaves everyone very close to where they are in their thinking...sameness...thank you for calling me to think this further...
Its important that someone has the video of the whole footage of Larry telling this story. All the copies out there are showing footage of WTC7 edited in amongst his audio. His hand language with pull it shows he meant DEMO JOB.
...and you will see that what you were told about WTC 1,WTC 2 and WTC 7..i.e fire and damage...is and was a lie...
Man..the power of the Media eh?
They can make you believe anything as long as it's shocking enough...thank god we have poeple who still can stil think critically and who still have eyes in their heads.
Me? I'm not one of those people but my little eyes pop open now and again.
BTW, if you want to use your time most effectively and really stick these guys then keep posting 911MissingLinksDOTcom everywhere. They are terrified of it. They refuse to reply to it or respond to any aspect of it because arguing about it educates people on the history of Israeli false-flag terrorism carried out against her so called ´allies´.
Man, talk about inviting a vampire into your house.
they just lie. They call you a liar and that in itself is their lie. Its very jewish.
I am surprised to see them back for more action because I noticed they had disappeared for the last 6-12 months. but this Australian uproar looks like got them back online for damage control.
Thanks a lot for the views you guys. Some questions to begin a debate:
How do we know when Silverstein referred to "pull it", he wasn't referring to the rescue operation? Even if after he said that he said, "...we watched the buildings collapse." He still could have been referring to the rescue operation as he noted lives lost beforehand.
Is there real proof that Silverstein made off like a fiend on the attacks, or was most of the insurance money invested in the new WTC?
Unfortunately the edit from Loose Change does not show Silversteins body language during that statement, what he does with his hands. They switch footage to something else over his audio. I dont know why the did that.
It doesnt matter what you think you can prove about what he meant (we all know he meant pull the building because the firefighters and police were telling everyone to get away as it was going to blow and there was even a countdown over FEMA radio. Get him OATH
@wearechangebranson You have to ask why Larry Silverstein just happened to buy the entire WTC complex just months before the "attacks",a complex which comprised of the Twin Towers,two structures that were prohibited from being demolished in the past because of the amount of asbestos in them.And then Insuring his complex against terrorist attacks which then actually occurred demolishing WTC 1 and WTC 2 very conveniently circumventing the need for approval for demolition and safety concern's......
@wearechangebranson ....and much more than just simply that. There is a much bigger conspiracy and fraud that went on on 9/11...no Larry did not do 9/11 as we know but he was part of the picture with the WTC complex itself.
...BTW The World Trade Center Complex comprised of WTC 1,WTC2,WTC3,WTC4,WTC5,WTC6 and WTC 7.
Only WTC 1,WTC 2 and WTC 7 "collapsed" controlled demolition style on 9/11.
WTC 3,WTC 4,WTC 5 and WTC 6 had to be pulled down weeks later,these buildings did NOT collapse despite being badly damaged from falling debris from the WTC 1 and WTC 2 and were engulfed in fire!
NIST says fire brought down the Twin Towers and WTC 7.
Look at the other WTC buildings and how they reacted to fire and damage.
Before this statement he said: "remember get in a call form the fire department COMMANDER"!! at that day, the commander was Daniel Nigro, and he testified that he didn't get any phone call from anybody. Why are defending a liar?
@Lietuvispartizan The FDNY had a hierarchy of commanders. While Nigro assumed the top spot after the death of Gancy, every fire house has a fire chief. Silverstein did not say which commander called him, and he may not remember. You need to consider that this intervier was conducted months later. Don't grill him on every single word.
The important point is: JEFF BECKER LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH WHEN HE MADE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID IN THE INTERVIEW.
"MAY NOT"!! MAY!! or maybe he'll remember, but he will not say it. Clearly you are the "guru" in this area. Why not contact and ask him... Oh.. it was done... The silence and his "ANSWER" speaks for itself.
"said "THEY made that decision to pull it", referring to the Fire Depatment."
That doesnt hold water. What does hold water is that he made this statement using a controlled demolition term for bringing down a building and then what do you know that is exactly what the collapse looks like - a controlled demolition.
He said THEY because the owner of a building can not just decide to "pull it", you need permits etc...he had no power of decision officially on that day.
@KombiPode "What does hold water is that he made this statement using a controlled demolition term"
WRONG. This is a lie, lied up by the so-called "truth movement". The term "pull it" is not used by demo experts at all, and most certainly does not refer to demolition. It is, however, common parlance among New York fire fighters to say "pull" and mean "evacuate", "get out". The context of the Silverstein interview is clear: To pull back firefighters from a doomed building.
[ "What does hold water is that he made this statement using a controlled demolition term"
WRONG. This is a lie]
Well I studied this myself and we even have another guy who called CD Inc to ask them if it was a demolition term and they confirmed that yes it is a demo term - his fucking phone call is on the fucking internet.
And if you google "Controlled Demolition Inc and Larry's "Pull It"" you can read MY study of it where I show how PULL IT is used on CD Inc´s website
@KombiPode You know it. I did the reverse calling the fire depts around here. From each and every one of them, 'we would not use slang during an emergency to limit any possibility of confusion. We would say "evacuate" not pull it'.
Besides, Larry 'pull it' Silverstein is not a stupid man. He knows the diference between people and material objects, hense pull it refers to his building, just like the rest of his statement PBS recorded was referring to.
OK lets play a game righttt? OK, lets pretend your Columbo--the TV detective. And he heres this guy takes out a a mutli-billions insurance on his property in case of a terrorist attack, and then..........................? What would you do in your investigation to find out who is reponsible for the said crime?
not only that. The way the insurance portfolio was structured screams fraud as well. I wont go into it but there was one appointed MASTER insurer and they were the only body who could legally protest a claim. All the others must accept that MASTER decision. The master insurer was Larry´s mates (Zionist Jews) but who copped the bill? All the smaller companies shared the brunt of it.
@PapaOystein Do you or have you ever worked for NIST? If you haven't,you should.
NIST made incredible CLAIMS in their reports on the reason's for the demise of WTC 1,WTC 2 and WTC 7..you know,the THREE WTC buildings that came down on September 11th 2001.
None of it caused structural damage. that is even admitted in the NIST report. Also admitted in the NIST report is that the building fell FREE-FALL for 3 seconds.
That is impossible without removing the columns below. Hence it was a CD job.
I doubt the NYFD new it was going to collapse until they were told it was going to be blown up and to go and clear the area of civilians. (Which there is footage of them telling people to get away because it was going to "blow up"). Buildings dont blow up without explosives.
watch?v=HgCoV7phKa8 The forensic team say they were surprised WTC7 fell down and could never work out why it collapsed.
Only report before the collapse was BBC saying it collapsed when its stills there.
"about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse. "
he said that AFTER the fact right? there are no reports before the collapse except when everyone was cleared away because the building was going to be blown up.
Besides, buildings which collapse on their own dont free-fall for 3 seconds (30 meters). Only buildings brought down with CD sequenced explosives do that.
Over 1300 Architects and Engineers are publically saying it was 100% a CD.
"- first time in history does not mean its not possible"
Yes yes, its possible that three world record collapses would occur on the same day in the same city, the third of them not even being hit by a blame or damaged structurally by debris other than a few broken windows.
Would love to know how the lobby was blown out of all three buildings, totally unrelated to the planes.
On December 7, 1941, four American Battleships were sunk at anchor by air attack at Pearl Harbor. Never before in history had an American Battleship been sunk by air attack, it never happened again. The rest of WWII not one American battleship was sunk,
@KombiPode There were QUITE A FEW firsts on 9/11. What gets me, is how brazen the "explanations" are.
Would you believe it though, myself, along with, I'm sure, millions of people believed it. Shameful as it is, I was one of the people rallying behind Bush. after a while, the emotional bit went out the window and logic and reason kicked in.
Considering that the plane impacts did nothing critical to the structural integrity of the standing twins, the collapse of WTC7 due to fire alone was the third time in history a steel-framed skyscraper had collapsed due to fire. The first two in history were the twin towers.
You really really must think us goyim are that stupid hey jew boy? Thats right jew boy, I got you in my sights and you are an easy target with that long hooked nose.
"Do you think a 300,000 lb plane flying at 400 mph could hit a building and NOT do structureal damage?"
To those towers no, nothing critical that would cause the building to topple or globally collapse.
And further, your tight hold to the NIST version is pure FAITH (like religious FAITH) because neither you nor anyone else have been allowed to see what parameters they used to conclude that the conditions were fit to cause the collaspe initiation AND they never modelled the rest.
So a 300,000 lb plane at 400 mph would do no structural damage -- wow, don't know what world you live in -- no one with any engineering experience would ever say that.
"So a 300,000 lb plane at 400 mph would do no structural damage "
no, You are confusing damage with critical structural damage. The towers were designed with a redundancy specifically to be able to take the impact of the largest possible commercial plane known at the time travelling at its mazimum speed. A 707 fully-loaded at 600mph.
I am just going by what I have seen on video three of the original architects and engineers saying about the towers before 911.
'So a 300,000 lb plane at 400 mph would do no structural damage -- wow, don't know what world you live in -- no one with any engineering experience would ever say that."
You seem to have a different usage of the meaning of structural damage. If I stuck a pen through a fly-wire screen would you say that I had done structural damage to the screen? Would you expect the screen to collapse?
If you want to see what the professional consensus on the collapses is then collect all of the professional architects and engineers opinions who have studied the evidence and made their conclusions public and you see that 100 to 1 the engineers and architects conclude that it was pre-planted explosives that brought down the towers.
I am a chemical engineer so I rely on their advice. From all my physics studies I consider the official story a big lie but the engineers agree too.
"there are hundreds of thousands of engineers in this country, you movement is less than 1%, which is lower than the suicide rate"
Are those 100s of 1000s of engineers part of some movement? Is there a website where they have all made themselves signatory to supporting the NIST report on the collapse of the 3 WTC? Have they all had the time to examine the NIST reports and evidence to come to a personal conclusion they have expressed publicly? Can you please show me this list?
@Denierbud11 If we want to reason on percentages, Bradly manning is also less than 1% of the millitary forces covering the war in Iran, but only he came forward about the atrocities committed.
"who told you that the collisons of planes flying at 400 mph did do any structural damage? are you realy this stupid?"
Well 400 firemen didnt seem to think the damage was threatening regarding a global collapse and neither did FEMA or NYFD headquarters. Firefighters are calling in that there are only limited fires needing two lines to put out (you can even see in the videos that the fires have long passed their maximum fury - there is a woman standing in the crash zone waving)
The buildings kept standing fine after the impacts right? between 40-50 minutes each. The fires had clearly died down considerably since the initial impact.
they were fine. They were designed to endure impacts of that type.
NIST refuse to even show us the parameter input conditions they used to conclude that the conditions reached caused a collapse initiation and then they didnt even model the rest of the collapse (they admit).
I have seen video of three of the original architects and engineers who built the twin towers proudly boasting how they were designed to withstand the impact of a fully loaded 707 flying at 600mph. One of them compared it to being like poking a pen through a fly-wire.
That was a major public concern during the design phase of the towers.
Again, as with the 1500 architects and engineers at AE911TRUTH, the statements of the original builders of the towers, I am confident NIST LIED.
the orignal architects modeled on a plane flying slow and lost in the fog, not a deliberate strike at full speed with a full fuel load -- please show a video in which any of the original architects made the 600 mph claim -- I bet a $1,000 you can't! why do you lie?
@Denierbud11 The 600mph was NISTs own report on the WTC in 1964.
google "NIST: A Boeing 707 travelling at 600 mph 'would result only in local damage which would not cause collapse'
They even go on to say, "The structural analysis carried out by the firm of Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson is the most complete and detailed of any ever made for any building structure."
As I said, your hugging of the official story is all FAITH based because no one has been shown NISTs calculations.
BTW, I notice that you have no response regarding to explain why BBC reported that WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually collapsed.
Also you would like to explain how the first three seconds of the collapse were free-fall (a factor only seen in controlled demolitions where the acceleration then allows the weight of the building to crush the remainder below with gravity)
WTC7 was a classic CD and also a world record if it was a CD and yet you accept it was all fire?
@KombiPode "why BBC reported that WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually collapsed"
Because it was a ticker item at Reuters. They had no idea which building it was. But the FDNY had expected the collapse for hours, and surely told the press. It was a simple slip: Someone mistook expectation for fact.
"the first three seconds of the collapse were free-fall" - WRONG. The first 1.75 seconds of north wall collapse were slower. That's when the buckling occurred which lead to 2s free fall
"Because it was a ticker item at Reuters. They had no idea which building it was. But the FDNY had expected the collapse for hours, and surely told the press"
That might carry water if during those ´hours´ there had been a report of fears of the WTC7 going to collapse (quote impressive given its head of the CIA and SEC who later claimed to have lost 1000s of case files affecting 1000s of white-collar crime cases, including Enron investigation) as well as being New Yorks EMC.
"Because it was a ticker item at Reuters. They had no idea which building it was."
Is that why they were calling it the 47-story Solomon Brothers building? The other oft used name for the 47-story Building 7 which housed the offices of Solomon Brothers?
You keep lying to yourself man. you are not lying to me. You are one of 2 things - Trapped in denialism due to brainwashing and guilt for your actions based on the 911 lies 2. A paid shill.
If the twin towers were Controlled demolitions then they were world records for highest CD ever. The 3rd highest at the time would be WTC7. So on 911 three world record implosions were succeeded not by sophisticated sequenced cutter-charges but by fire alone. If you believe that then you must believe in Allah and magic fire, cause it must have been Allah who suspended the laws of physics on 911.
nothing will happen to the people who were behind 9.11
zionist with the help of bush adminastration an the neo cons.
same people killed president kenedy..
saddam hussain.. got qadafi killed too lets not forget ossamah
006warlord 2 months ago
Poor girl never got her question answered.
metrodog 4 months ago
What I find odd is that people involved in such a hellish conspiracy would blab to media people. People too stupid to even keep their mouths shut about an event hat had not even taken place. Any explanation to account for that stupidity?
carcabe 5 months ago
Notice CNN Dub2 04 has sound here at 5:43 .It was removed when NIST released the clip in Freedom of Information Act release to the public. I've uploaded to Youtube a 'Contrast Enhanced' version of CNN Dub2 04. It reveals some very interesting things on the north face of WTC7 before the collapse - watch?v=VYNesSmwF7I
Jackblind1000 5 months ago
BBC is part of the media matrix.
DjRobin2000 6 months ago
who knows what has corrupted him during the 8 years he ran. National or international.
InODependanceSyndrom 6 months ago
What worries me, is that the destruction of 9/11 was for the benefit of many world leaders and corporations that got rich trough this event. One of those with a additional motive which is war is country Israel.
Also Bush was not around at the event, and never opted to fly back to the white house, in other words he basically neglected the events on 9/11. Also bush seemed to know about a plane hitting the second tower before it happened.
Bush is a easy manipulating fucked up alcoholic redneck
InODependanceSyndrom 6 months ago
A very small chance people would hear that. And again, bombs can be associated with other things in a catastrophic scenario as 9/11.
Also I have seen no debree hitting WTC 7, aswell as seeing bombs go off.
For the latter, you never see bombs go off as these are controller explosives. They often use no shrapnel or kinetic energy only at controlled areas, as hence thats why theyre called controlled demolitions.
Some controlled demoltion cannot even be seen as it goes standing a few feet away.
InODependanceSyndrom 6 months ago
for the full fundament and everything it holds to collapse in on itself.
@davidhlusko
falling rubble also sounds like bombs going off. I think they had a perfect background riot audio of all the rubble and fleeing people to mask these bombs. Even if heard it would be associated with falling debree rather then bombs themselves.
Also, the bombs must be placed in the core of the WTC towers as thats the place where the structure is reinforced (its the root of the WTC basically)
InODependanceSyndrom 6 months ago
What people dont get is that if WTC 7 for instance collapsed due to debree, (which wasnt that visible on the footages I have seen) And if it did, not the entire width/length of the building should have collapsed. That never happens when a building collapses uncontrolled. One side of the building oftenly remains intact.
3 towers that day (WTC 1/2/7) Desintegrated into the ground as if it was made from paper.
That is typically a demolition as sometimes seen in las vegas. Its the only way
InODependanceSyndrom 6 months ago
If it was a controlled Demolition you would have heard the charges going off from miles away. she clearly did not know which building was WTC 7, and furthermore at 3pm, the FDNY evacuated the area knowing that it was inevitable to stop the collapse. as said before by SpartaClan that's the rest of the info. It was poor news coverage like usual.
davidhlusko 6 months ago
WTC 7 collapsed because of structural impact of the other collapses. Firefighters and responders knew hours before-hand and evacuated all personnel. The people on the ground reported significant damage, including a "20 story hole" in the face of the building. The fires were fueled by 24,000 gallons of diesel fuel in separate generators, of which were the locations of the fires. Tower 7 collapsed shortly after one of the three trusses gave-way.
SpartaClan 6 months ago
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It is not stock footage, but is a chronicle of that day..
It is compositionally sound.. in that it is experienced in a
way that it can hold you for 130 minutes, because it feels
like you are there, but not in the unrelenting adrenaline rushed
way that so many other programs about 9/11 do. It is a complete
work; albeit, it is an actual authentic eyewitness video account..
'Tuesday Morning in September'
tuesmorninginsept 7 months ago
Im looking at this for the first time.. I didn't know about a 3rd building.. wtf?
britewired 8 months ago
@britewired late much but better late than never
shermanr6 8 months ago
@britewired spread the info!
shermanr6 8 months ago
A few witnesses heard explosions and what sounded like bombs but that can all be explained if your not retarded. Anyone who believes in this controlled demolition theory is calling liars out of the civilian witnesses, fire chief, firemen, port authority, and policemen who saw building 7 engulfed in flames,structural damage, bowing, leaning, and predicting it was going to collapse hours before it did.
The truth movement implies that people that push the official story are liars and scum. irony
kushsmokkeralt 8 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
So, apparently, you took an extra dose of asshole pills today.
You should lay off...people are starting to talk.
smujismuj 8 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
I'm not lying.
I don't think you are lying either, I just think you're ignorant, and you're trying to support the official story because you can't imagine something this huge being passed off on so many people. But there are plenty of examples of "Big Lies". Lies so huge that no one could believe that anyone could get away with it...which is exactly why they DO get away with it.
smujismuj 8 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
Building 7 didn't lean at all.
Steel buildings don't collapse due to fire...never in all of history until 9/11.
And somehow, three steel buildings all came down.
According to NIST, all three came down due to weakened steel as a result of fire.
smujismuj 8 months ago
@smujismuj
the NYFD says it did in fact lean -- so who is the liar, you or the NYFD?
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@Denierbud11
link?
smujismuj 8 months ago
@smujismuj
watch?v=nRwWO01opE8
you could also review the oral transcripts of the NYFD and the audio recordings of their calls -- you have researched this I assume - or perhaps you haven't and just like to post lies on youtube
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@Denierbud11
That's not building 7.
smujismuj 8 months ago
@smujismuj
yes it is
Denierbud11 8 months ago
@smujismuj No steel building has ever collapsed from fire? McCormick Place, Chicago,'67 Sight & Sounds Theater, Strasburg PA 97 Dogwood Elementary School, Reston VA Sabena Technics Hangar, Brussels, '06 (collapsed fm aircraft fire) Madrid Windsor Hotel, '05 (steel portion collapsed, concrete didn't) Sandoz storage facility, Basel Switz, '86 Mumbai High North Platform (2005) GM plant, Livonia, 1953 Kmart fire, Falls Twnp PA,June 1982, steel bldg, collapsed in 40 min
bagintree 8 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
He said, "Pull 'IT'. Not "pull the firefighters", he said "pull IT".
Who's the idiot here?
I'd be willing to bet Jeff knows about a thousand times more than you do about this...boy.
smujismuj 8 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal I've been to the A&Etruth911 website and they have engineers alright... but only 4% of them are structural engineers. I'm not even sure if they're still liscensed. Some are from different countries too. The other engineers have nothing to do with structures, they're electrical engineers, landscaping engineers, computer engineers and many others who are not liscensed or certified. The A&E list is a big fat lie, it's just a hodge podge of people with very minimal "experts."
godzilla1077 9 months ago
wonder how long it will be before Jeff Becker gets killed by a "crazy lone gunman" and how long it will take America to believe it and be convinced...
Id say about 5 seconds for each
allstar00442288 9 months ago
@allstar00442288 Becker is wrong and ill informed. By saying that WTC 7 wasn't rained on by falling debris he is 100% wrong.
godzilla1077 9 months ago
@allstar00442288 Becker is wrong and ill informed. By saying that WTC 7 wasn't rained on by falling debris he is 100% wrong. It's obvious he was stretching to get the minority vote of truthers in the state. Then he gives Richard Gage a shout out which is hilarious considering Gage doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
godzilla1077 9 months ago
@godzilla1077 Even if he was wrong about that (which he wasnt, debris didnt rain on the fucking building, a thin dust cloud did) it doesnt matter because wtc7 was a controlled demolition, it feel at freefall speed and turned to dust.
allstar00442288 9 months ago
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@allstar00442288
Since there are statements from NYFD member on the scene, as well as video and photo evidence of damage, we can conclude that you are a liar or just simply ignorant -- which is it?
Denierbud11 9 months ago
@allstar00442288 It didn't fall at free fall speed. Dust didnt just fall on it, huge chunks of debris fell on it. WTC 7 lost 20 storys near the baseline of south west corner of the building. Fire fighters on site confirmed it, pictures confirm it and videos confirm it. The fire just made it worse and it didn't fall at free fall speed. It was a gradual collapse that took 18 seconds in total. The collapse began at the southwest end of the building.
godzilla1077 9 months ago
@godzilla1077 idiot
shermanr6 8 months ago
@shermanr6 I know it hurts that the inside job thoery doesn't work unless facts and science is bent to make thier argument. The Truth Movement is dying slowly.
godzilla1077 8 months ago
@godzilla1077 Thums up if you think godzilla is in denial!
shermanr6 8 months ago 2
@shermanr6 Hmmm so you're asking truthers for thumbs up on a pro truther video site. That's the equivilance of asking Packer fans if they love Green Bay. Funny how you skip an actual discussion and cop out while asking for the support of your misguided crowd. Seems to me you can't even dispute what I have said a while ago.
godzilla1077 8 months ago
@godzilla1077 "TRUTHER???" I'm just your avg college educated American father that worries wtf the US has turned into. You can label me to sound like a nut but at the end of the day I am no different from you other than my eyes are open to the obvious. If you don't find the need to question 9/11 and more specifically WTC 7 then you my friend must be in denial or just plain dumb!!! At this point I'm leaning towards both.
shermanr6 7 months ago
@shermanr6 So are you telling me the damage that WTC 7 sustained from the collapse of the north tower is make believe? Even though theres pics, videos and NYFD testimony confirming the serious damage that WTC 7 has suffered. Not to mention there was no seismic activity during the collapse until the building hit the floor? Lets not forget it didn't fell on it's footprint. The evidence is there, you can ignore it all you want but it's there.
godzilla1077 7 months ago
@godzilla1077 Thumbs up if you think godzilla is in denial!
shermanr6 8 months ago
Jeff becker is a substitute teacher at my school XD
jaguar94able 9 months ago
whoooooweeeee! look at the jew lady at bbc act so dramatic talking about a building that hasn't collapsed yet, except saying it had. Just like 3 other networks. hmmm. 1 a coincidence, 2....wtf? 3 networks saying it.....give me a break, the odds of that happening if not coordinated is trillions to one. The zionists with rothshcilds money said they would do to europe and america what they did to russia by robbing them blind. Our congress should be hanging right now. Ben franklin on jews.
sssssjjjj1 9 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
Can you point me to some video that shows building seven leaning or buckling?
"You retarded dildo." You are sooo cute.
One can always tell who hasn't really studied the material when they have to resort to epithets.
Go back to school, pookie.
Take some Architectural courses, some mechanical engineering courses, & a healthy dose of elementary physics.
Then have another go at this debate.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering with you, it's like poking a mongrel with a stick.
smujismuj 9 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
Your response, especially the last word, is an example of irony.
smujismuj 9 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal
absolutely -- the NYFD commanders on the scene all agreed the building was doomed. The NYFD had over 300 of its brothers murdered that day --- these are men that run into a fire to save others -- they sure as hell would raise the roof if they had issue with this
Denierbud11 9 months ago
@Denierbud11 Correct, the NYFD used a transit so they can check for movement. And the transit revealed that WTC 7 was moving due to the damage.
godzilla1077 9 months ago
To see Jeff Becker talking about WTC7 , in 2010, and managing not only to get his facts wrong but to trot out the same distorted claptrap about the BBC report , Larry Silverstein, pull-it etc. - it's enough to make you weep.
cwlldoran 10 months ago
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Jane Stanley is a fucking cunt bitch
Seigu007 11 months ago
I don't know why he says it was not hit by debris.
He seems like he's nervous and mixes up what wanted to say.
It was hit by debris, but it doesn't account for the behavior of the collapse: uniform, near-free-fall speed, predicted magically, before it happened.
How did all of those people know it was going to fall?
smujismuj 11 months ago 4
@smujismuj did you even listen to what he said? It wasnt 'rained on'
Seigu007 3 months ago
47-storey building.
Jackthesmilingblack 1 year ago
Jeff Becker got WTC7 into "polite society" ...good job!
Let's remember, the anomaly of WTC7 is the nearly simultaneous collapse at free fall acceleration for 2.25 seconds admitted by NIST.
We know there was damage to the south side of WTC7 but the north side collapsed just as easily. Some say the damage to WTC7 was from falling debris but we do not know for sure; maybe explosives caused it. The debris from WTC7 was recycled except for a few beams, one of which had very unusual melting.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
@Skeptic121
we know for sure that the damage to WTC 7 was from falling debri -- refusing to see evidence does not mean its not there
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 How do you know some of the damage to WTC7 was not caused by fires?
Skeptic121 1 year ago
@Skeptic121 well there is a good example in NZ just now. After the earthquake a quarter of a big buildings vertical support collums were smashed, some of its foundation sinking and there were lots of fires. Yet even after a month it still stands there on a lean with a quarter of it sunken into the ground lol so it makes you think. Yet here is the mighty WTC7, a few fires and some external damage then all of sudden it comes perfectly down to the ground. Yea right...i wasn't born yesterday mate.
JedNZ 10 months ago
@Skeptic121 in NZ we are waiting for a big building to come down that got stuffed by the earthquake. But it insists it stands on a lean with a quarter of its foundation sunken into the ground. But for some odd reason, it just won't come perfectly down to the ground, even after all the aftershocks, like the WTC7 did that had far far less damage...how strange. I guess it only works like this in America, what a shame because they need it to come perfectly down too, unlike the other buildings ;)
JedNZ 10 months ago
END ALL WARS NOW.
Its only enriches the ziocommie International Bankers.
'nuff said.
pf
pokerfacecom 1 year ago
WTC 7 is the SMOKING GUN ... get Cheney to trial before he dies from a heart attack..
FromCanadaEh 1 year ago 18
@FromCanadaEh I really doubt any government officials knew what the hell was going on. These people are not intelligent enough to pull it off. This was something long thought out and involved some real intelligence. One thing you should remember...people in government are people who did not have what it takes to be in the public sector.
wolfgange63 1 year ago
@wolfgange63 Cheney isn't no Schmuck ... he was a major player in the private energy sector - do some research - and Condi; another piece of work ... the Rabbit holes go real deep.
FromCanadaEh 1 year ago 2
@FromCanadaEh , google= dick cheney has no pulse
RebelRouserMC 8 months ago
@FromCanadaEh literally
shermanr6 8 months ago
The last speaker refers to "excursions abroad". Illegal invasions, rendition, torture and murder more like! The wester powers have the blood of millions on their hands. Through complacency and ignorance the people have facilitated massacres and wars throughout the centruries. now that propaganda and control of information is starting to break, we can see a glimps of the evil that is done in our names. We now have a choice, stand up and have honour, or continue to allow evil to prevail
stevenmccaw 1 year ago
In a confusing and chaotic situation, mistakes are LIKELY. Saying something nonfactual isn't necessarily decpeption, it can also be a mistake.
Sudden black out: did you notice how the feed was of bad quality right afterwards? Isn't it likely that there was simply a communication overload, bad reception, especially when the place if crawling with reporters transmitting all over the world?
If you guys weren't so paranoid, you'd permit a "mistake" as opposed to a "lie" to explain.
vdizhoor 1 year ago
seriously, guys, wtf? do you think that the Biristh reporters were given foreknowledge of the NWO sinister plan? And then they were monitored? So who is "in on it"? Passengers? Their families? World Press? UN? And NO ONE FORM INSIDE leaked anything to weakileaks about THEIR plan?? What??
Isn't a simpler explanation that you are unconsciously giving in to paranoia, as the event left you traumatized and depressed?
When you eliminate the impossible, improbable tends to be truth. Its YOU.
vdizhoor 1 year ago
@vdizhoor You're on the right track, but it is the traumatic event that makes most Americans see un-clearly. Emotion took us over. Hitler once said that the largest lies are the easiest to believe. He was evil, but a damn good tyrant. And.. regarding the leaks: in these types of operation only a select few know the big picture (Rumsfeld, Chainey, Bush, CIA and MI5 (the Brits), and various top bankers. The underlings simply carry out their little jobs and know nothing beyond it...
Triburner1 1 year ago
@vdizhoor The BBC were being fed information. The use of words such as "we are being told" our sources are telling us" was repeated throughout the day. They were simply being told what to tell us right from the outset. The official story is a load of rubbish, that much is clear. The "nit picking" should be applied to the official version of events, and what a load of discrepancies arise!
stevenmccaw 1 year ago
I would donate and raise of thousands of dollars to Mr Becker party; if they officially declare that 9/11 is an inside job/ Coverup
matgoolys 1 year ago
@matgoolys
yep, I bet you gots all kind of momey from staying at momma's house for all these years
Denierbud11 1 year ago
How many gallows will we need for all Zionists, Neocons, NIST, CIA, NSA, Mossad and FBI agents?
lottococko 1 year ago
@lottococko
just a few strait jackets for you and your friends
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 Another brainwashed dill pickle and or cowardly and treasonous government shill. You lot stick out like dog's nuts ya stupid cowardly fuckwit.
lottococko 1 year ago
@lottococko
all twoofers have are insults and lies
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 My oh my, you may be even something worse than brainwashed or a coward, you could be a joo!
lottococko 1 year ago
@lottococko
what is a joo and why is it worse ?? care to show us how ignorant you are
Denierbud11 1 year ago
Jeff Becker my new hero
matgoolys 1 year ago
what a left wing lunatic Jeff Becker is. The constitution was written by racist dead white protestants who were isolationists and traitors to england. Go to hell Jeff Becker you kook and take your theocratic anti-war lunatic support base with you!
TheHomelandDefender 1 year ago
I always wonder , what would happen in America if everybody realized that Mossad was behind 9/11 with few insiders.Would people get angry?
alexfirestone 1 year ago
Jeff Becker I hope u become President
matgoolys 1 year ago
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"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it or see it.
Would Israel still blame it on Iran?"-Ry Dawson
euro944t 1 year ago
The 9/11 Commission Report should be viewed with some skepticism.
“The two chairs of the commission, Kean & Hamilton, say clearly that they were obstructed by the WH, that there is more to be learned . . .
and much more damning things to come,” (2004 Kean Hamilton)
If 8 of the people who were involved in the commission report don’t stand by it, then why is half the public?
euro944t 1 year ago 3
Google has a long history of banning videos that don't toe the government line. Great video! Jeff Becker is on the ball.
tshirtfaction 1 year ago
Props WAC ~
Props Jeff Becker!
WE ARE CHANGE
ryanshaunkelly 1 year ago 17
there is plenty of info to disregard the bbc's reporting, cnn reported it before bbc did and i believe the bbc got its info from cnn. tower 7 did not fall out of sympathy
Nick89b 1 year ago
It was not rained on by any debris? Can't really take Becker seriously when he says that.
lestliness 1 year ago
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Nick89b 1 year ago
@lestliness
it was not damaged by falling debris, there are hundreds of videos, none of them show any damage from either of the falling wtc buildings
Nick89b 1 year ago
@Nick89b First You tube video I did a search for .. Look up watch?v=wxGRUjnDwLo
Tons of damage on the South West Side of the building.. Wow, you guys will believe anything.
lestliness 1 year ago
@Nick89b First you tube video I found.. watch?v=wxGRUjnDwLo Damage on the South West Side..
lestliness 1 year ago
@lestliness
please be a little more specific in where the damage is, i dont see it
Nick89b 1 year ago
@Nick89b You don't see any damage? Does that look like an untouched building to you? google wtc 7 damage starting at 18th floor.. I see a picture and there's a ton of outside damage..clear as day.
lestliness 1 year ago
@lestliness A few broken windows does not make a huge gouge from the ground up to the 22nd floor. The 18th - 22nd floor is broken out, more thna just the windos. What you have been told is a huge gouge is a smoke screen. Look at it again, that is smoke.
ISamuelII 1 year ago
@ISamuelII I can agree that it's not big in comparison the building and I'm pretty sure that's not what took the tower down.. (I don't know).. But to my original argument.. you can't convince me that this building wasn't hit by any debris as this guy in the video has stated.
lestliness 1 year ago
@lestliness We don't know how long 'this guy' has been looking into it and from whom. There are plenty of disinfo sites out there just begging for some follower of their particular version of events. Nit picking about minor details in the facts does not bust the facts altogether.
ISamuelII 1 year ago
YEAH JEFF BECKER!!! You Got Some Big BAllz!
Unknow022 1 year ago
Lol this is such a joke you couldnt make it up
This was a planned indise job from the start and everyone is running scared now
debunkthis911 1 year ago 17
@debunkthis911 Are they really running scared? I certainly hope so. I guess that is the real reason Obama has not resigned nor been indicted yet. When Chicago Mafia get scared they go back home to be coddled by family. The money behind 911 funding is linked not just to joint venture Silverstein Properties Insurance fraud but the astounding fraud of a US President who was manufactured to continue to moneylaunder the fraudulent estate of me deceased globally. Sound crazy? I agree but it IS true.HS
HoneySiegalSurvivor 1 year ago
I want to make tshirts that say, I will vote for you if you deny the official 911 version.
karmacounselor 1 year ago
@karmacounselor
When you deny the official version the mainstream people want to know who to point their hatred towards instead. they are happy to blame whoever but they need someone to blame otherwise you can not interest them as they are not particularly interested in the truth only things that they believe are threatening them. So you might as well blame where blame belongs for 911, just another one of Israel´s King David Hotel style false-flag terrorist attacks.
KombiPode 1 year ago 2
@KombiPode You are absolutely right...I didn't think of that...it is a defense mechanism for a fear, and if you take a defense away, it leaves the person lost, then angry, then they blame you for taking it away...the dynamic of homeostasis leaves everyone very close to where they are in their thinking...sameness...thank you for calling me to think this further...
karmacounselor 1 year ago
Its important that someone has the video of the whole footage of Larry telling this story. All the copies out there are showing footage of WTC7 edited in amongst his audio. His hand language with pull it shows he meant DEMO JOB.
KombiPode 1 year ago 2
..I feel sorry for Jayne...she was just doing what she was told....i havent seen the lovely Jayne on BBC News since that footage was found..
nikamota 1 year ago 2
...and you will see that what you were told about WTC 1,WTC 2 and WTC 7..i.e fire and damage...is and was a lie...
Man..the power of the Media eh?
They can make you believe anything as long as it's shocking enough...thank god we have poeple who still can stil think critically and who still have eyes in their heads.
Me? I'm not one of those people but my little eyes pop open now and again.
nikamota 1 year ago
Jeff Becker for President!
bigb47 1 year ago
@pzmtuthcvpvl
BTW, if you want to use your time most effectively and really stick these guys then keep posting 911MissingLinksDOTcom everywhere. They are terrified of it. They refuse to reply to it or respond to any aspect of it because arguing about it educates people on the history of Israeli false-flag terrorism carried out against her so called ´allies´.
Man, talk about inviting a vampire into your house.
KombiPode 1 year ago 2
@pzmtuthcvpvl
they just lie. They call you a liar and that in itself is their lie. Its very jewish.
I am surprised to see them back for more action because I noticed they had disappeared for the last 6-12 months. but this Australian uproar looks like got them back online for damage control.
KombiPode 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for the views you guys. Some questions to begin a debate:
How do we know when Silverstein referred to "pull it", he wasn't referring to the rescue operation? Even if after he said that he said, "...we watched the buildings collapse." He still could have been referring to the rescue operation as he noted lives lost beforehand.
Is there real proof that Silverstein made off like a fiend on the attacks, or was most of the insurance money invested in the new WTC?
wearechangebranson 1 year ago
@wearechangebranson
Unfortunately the edit from Loose Change does not show Silversteins body language during that statement, what he does with his hands. They switch footage to something else over his audio. I dont know why the did that.
It doesnt matter what you think you can prove about what he meant (we all know he meant pull the building because the firefighters and police were telling everyone to get away as it was going to blow and there was even a countdown over FEMA radio. Get him OATH
KombiPode 1 year ago 2
@wearechangebranson You have to ask why Larry Silverstein just happened to buy the entire WTC complex just months before the "attacks",a complex which comprised of the Twin Towers,two structures that were prohibited from being demolished in the past because of the amount of asbestos in them.And then Insuring his complex against terrorist attacks which then actually occurred demolishing WTC 1 and WTC 2 very conveniently circumventing the need for approval for demolition and safety concern's......
nikamota 1 year ago 2
@wearechangebranson ....and much more than just simply that. There is a much bigger conspiracy and fraud that went on on 9/11...no Larry did not do 9/11 as we know but he was part of the picture with the WTC complex itself.
nikamota 1 year ago
...BTW The World Trade Center Complex comprised of WTC 1,WTC2,WTC3,WTC4,WTC5,WTC6 and WTC 7.
Only WTC 1,WTC 2 and WTC 7 "collapsed" controlled demolition style on 9/11.
WTC 3,WTC 4,WTC 5 and WTC 6 had to be pulled down weeks later,these buildings did NOT collapse despite being badly damaged from falling debris from the WTC 1 and WTC 2 and were engulfed in fire!
NIST says fire brought down the Twin Towers and WTC 7.
Look at the other WTC buildings and how they reacted to fire and damage.
nikamota 1 year ago
@wearechangebranson "How do we know when Silverstein referred to "pull it", he wasn't referring to the rescue operation?"
More important is: Larry said "THEY made that decision to pull it", referring to the Fire Depatment. THEY made that decision, not Larry. THEY.
Jeff Becker however claims WRONGLY that Larry "gave the order". No, NOT Larry! The Fire Department did!
Jeff Becker lies thriough his teeth. That is what we need to discuss here.
He also lies when he claims "pull it is a demo term"
PapaOystein 1 year ago
@PapaOystein hey, jerk,shill out
"THEY made that decision to pull it" -
Before this statement he said: "remember get in a call form the fire department COMMANDER"!! at that day, the commander was Daniel Nigro, and he testified that he didn't get any phone call from anybody. Why are defending a liar?
Lietuvispartizan 1 year ago
@Lietuvispartizan The FDNY had a hierarchy of commanders. While Nigro assumed the top spot after the death of Gancy, every fire house has a fire chief. Silverstein did not say which commander called him, and he may not remember. You need to consider that this intervier was conducted months later. Don't grill him on every single word.
The important point is: JEFF BECKER LIED THROUGH HIS TEETH WHEN HE MADE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID IN THE INTERVIEW.
You guys need to grill Becker!
PapaOystein 1 year ago
@PapaOystein "he may not remember" -
"MAY NOT"!! MAY!! or maybe he'll remember, but he will not say it. Clearly you are the "guru" in this area. Why not contact and ask him... Oh.. it was done... The silence and his "ANSWER" speaks for itself.
/watch?v=EtPC0W4HII8
You are a pseudo-sceptic, Oystien.
Lietuvispartizan 1 year ago
@PapaOystein
"said "THEY made that decision to pull it", referring to the Fire Depatment."
That doesnt hold water. What does hold water is that he made this statement using a controlled demolition term for bringing down a building and then what do you know that is exactly what the collapse looks like - a controlled demolition.
He said THEY because the owner of a building can not just decide to "pull it", you need permits etc...he had no power of decision officially on that day.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode "What does hold water is that he made this statement using a controlled demolition term"
WRONG. This is a lie, lied up by the so-called "truth movement". The term "pull it" is not used by demo experts at all, and most certainly does not refer to demolition. It is, however, common parlance among New York fire fighters to say "pull" and mean "evacuate", "get out". The context of the Silverstein interview is clear: To pull back firefighters from a doomed building.
PapaOystein 1 year ago
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@PapaOystein
[ "What does hold water is that he made this statement using a controlled demolition term"
WRONG. This is a lie]
Well I studied this myself and we even have another guy who called CD Inc to ask them if it was a demolition term and they confirmed that yes it is a demo term - his fucking phone call is on the fucking internet.
And if you google "Controlled Demolition Inc and Larry's "Pull It"" you can read MY study of it where I show how PULL IT is used on CD Inc´s website
KombiPode 1 year ago 2
@KombiPode You know it. I did the reverse calling the fire depts around here. From each and every one of them, 'we would not use slang during an emergency to limit any possibility of confusion. We would say "evacuate" not pull it'.
Besides, Larry 'pull it' Silverstein is not a stupid man. He knows the diference between people and material objects, hense pull it refers to his building, just like the rest of his statement PBS recorded was referring to.
ISamuelII 1 year ago
OK lets play a game righttt? OK, lets pretend your Columbo--the TV detective. And he heres this guy takes out a a mutli-billions insurance on his property in case of a terrorist attack, and then..........................? What would you do in your investigation to find out who is reponsible for the said crime?
zezt 1 year ago
@zezt
not only that. The way the insurance portfolio was structured screams fraud as well. I wont go into it but there was one appointed MASTER insurer and they were the only body who could legally protest a claim. All the others must accept that MASTER decision. The master insurer was Larry´s mates (Zionist Jews) but who copped the bill? All the smaller companies shared the brunt of it.
KombiPode 1 year ago
Mr. becker talks for a little over a minute, and every single point he raises contains an error of fact:
- "3 buildings" - no, more
- "40 story" - no, 47
- "no debris rained on it" - lots of debris did
- "Jane was at GZ" - no, she was miles away
- "Larry ordered demeo" - no he was told by the Fire Department that they would pull their men away
- "pull it is a demo term" - no, it is a Fire Department term.
Why do you guys praise a man who makes FALSE statements every 10 seconds?
PapaOystein 1 year ago
@PapaOystein who? you mean BUSH or OBAMA?
zezt 1 year ago
@PapaOystein Do you or have you ever worked for NIST? If you haven't,you should.
NIST made incredible CLAIMS in their reports on the reason's for the demise of WTC 1,WTC 2 and WTC 7..you know,the THREE WTC buildings that came down on September 11th 2001.
Do you believe the outright lies of NIST then?
nikamota 1 year ago
@PapaOystein
""no debris rained on it" - lots of debris did"
None of it caused structural damage. that is even admitted in the NIST report. Also admitted in the NIST report is that the building fell FREE-FALL for 3 seconds.
That is impossible without removing the columns below. Hence it was a CD job.
Which part of year 10 physics dont you get?
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
"It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse. "
Deputy Chief Peter Hayden, who had 33 years service in Division 1
So the NYFD knew it was going to collapse -- were they part of the conspiracy?
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 Ive' had dealings with you before.Have i? I recognize the name.
Sorry,not replying to anything as such..just saying.
nikamota 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
I doubt the NYFD new it was going to collapse until they were told it was going to be blown up and to go and clear the area of civilians. (Which there is footage of them telling people to get away because it was going to "blow up"). Buildings dont blow up without explosives.
watch?v=HgCoV7phKa8 The forensic team say they were surprised WTC7 fell down and could never work out why it collapsed.
Only report before the collapse was BBC saying it collapsed when its stills there.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
"about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse. "
he said that AFTER the fact right? there are no reports before the collapse except when everyone was cleared away because the building was going to be blown up.
Besides, buildings which collapse on their own dont free-fall for 3 seconds (30 meters). Only buildings brought down with CD sequenced explosives do that.
Over 1300 Architects and Engineers are publically saying it was 100% a CD.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
He was interviewed after the fact, are you calling him a liar?
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
What does that have to do with BBC having 20 minute foreknowledlge of a world-record building collapse?
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
if WTC7 came down from fire alone you realise it would be the first time in history a steel-framed skyscraper has collapsed because of fire?
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
It was the first total collapse, there have been partial collapse -- first time in history does not mean its not possible
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
"- first time in history does not mean its not possible"
Yes yes, its possible that three world record collapses would occur on the same day in the same city, the third of them not even being hit by a blame or damaged structurally by debris other than a few broken windows.
Would love to know how the lobby was blown out of all three buildings, totally unrelated to the planes.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
On December 7, 1941, four American Battleships were sunk at anchor by air attack at Pearl Harbor. Never before in history had an American Battleship been sunk by air attack, it never happened again. The rest of WWII not one American battleship was sunk,
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 It is called impossible bud.
ISamuelII 1 year ago
@KombiPode There were QUITE A FEW firsts on 9/11. What gets me, is how brazen the "explanations" are.
Would you believe it though, myself, along with, I'm sure, millions of people believed it. Shameful as it is, I was one of the people rallying behind Bush. after a while, the emotional bit went out the window and logic and reason kicked in.
4552steve 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
Considering that the plane impacts did nothing critical to the structural integrity of the standing twins, the collapse of WTC7 due to fire alone was the third time in history a steel-framed skyscraper had collapsed due to fire. The first two in history were the twin towers.
You really really must think us goyim are that stupid hey jew boy? Thats right jew boy, I got you in my sights and you are an easy target with that long hooked nose.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
who told you that the collisons of planes flying at 400 mph did do any structural damage? are you realy this stupid?
Denierbud11 1 year ago
Do you think a 300,000 lb plane flying at 400 mph could hit a building and NOT do structureal damage?
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
"Do you think a 300,000 lb plane flying at 400 mph could hit a building and NOT do structureal damage?"
To those towers no, nothing critical that would cause the building to topple or globally collapse.
And further, your tight hold to the NIST version is pure FAITH (like religious FAITH) because neither you nor anyone else have been allowed to see what parameters they used to conclude that the conditions were fit to cause the collaspe initiation AND they never modelled the rest.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
So a 300,000 lb plane at 400 mph would do no structural damage -- wow, don't know what world you live in -- no one with any engineering experience would ever say that.
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
"So a 300,000 lb plane at 400 mph would do no structural damage "
no, You are confusing damage with critical structural damage. The towers were designed with a redundancy specifically to be able to take the impact of the largest possible commercial plane known at the time travelling at its mazimum speed. A 707 fully-loaded at 600mph.
I am just going by what I have seen on video three of the original architects and engineers saying about the towers before 911.
KombiPode 1 year ago
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@Denierbud11
'So a 300,000 lb plane at 400 mph would do no structural damage -- wow, don't know what world you live in -- no one with any engineering experience would ever say that."
You seem to have a different usage of the meaning of structural damage. If I stuck a pen through a fly-wire screen would you say that I had done structural damage to the screen? Would you expect the screen to collapse?
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
If you want to see what the professional consensus on the collapses is then collect all of the professional architects and engineers opinions who have studied the evidence and made their conclusions public and you see that 100 to 1 the engineers and architects conclude that it was pre-planted explosives that brought down the towers.
I am a chemical engineer so I rely on their advice. From all my physics studies I consider the official story a big lie but the engineers agree too.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
there are hundreds of thousands of engineers in this country, you movement is less than 1%, which is lower than the suicide rate
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
"there are hundreds of thousands of engineers in this country, you movement is less than 1%, which is lower than the suicide rate"
Are those 100s of 1000s of engineers part of some movement? Is there a website where they have all made themselves signatory to supporting the NIST report on the collapse of the 3 WTC? Have they all had the time to examine the NIST reports and evidence to come to a personal conclusion they have expressed publicly? Can you please show me this list?
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 If we want to reason on percentages, Bradly manning is also less than 1% of the millitary forces covering the war in Iran, but only he came forward about the atrocities committed.
4552steve 1 year ago
@4552steve Sorry, not Iran.
4552steve 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
"who told you that the collisons of planes flying at 400 mph did do any structural damage? are you realy this stupid?"
Well 400 firemen didnt seem to think the damage was threatening regarding a global collapse and neither did FEMA or NYFD headquarters. Firefighters are calling in that there are only limited fires needing two lines to put out (you can even see in the videos that the fires have long passed their maximum fury - there is a woman standing in the crash zone waving)
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
The buildings kept standing fine after the impacts right? between 40-50 minutes each. The fires had clearly died down considerably since the initial impact.
they were fine. They were designed to endure impacts of that type.
NIST refuse to even show us the parameter input conditions they used to conclude that the conditions reached caused a collapse initiation and then they didnt even model the rest of the collapse (they admit).
So you are just taking NISTs word for it, FAITH.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
I have seen video of three of the original architects and engineers who built the twin towers proudly boasting how they were designed to withstand the impact of a fully loaded 707 flying at 600mph. One of them compared it to being like poking a pen through a fly-wire.
That was a major public concern during the design phase of the towers.
Again, as with the 1500 architects and engineers at AE911TRUTH, the statements of the original builders of the towers, I am confident NIST LIED.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode
the orignal architects modeled on a plane flying slow and lost in the fog, not a deliberate strike at full speed with a full fuel load -- please show a video in which any of the original architects made the 600 mph claim -- I bet a $1,000 you can't! why do you lie?
Denierbud11 1 year ago
@Denierbud11 The 600mph was NISTs own report on the WTC in 1964.
google "NIST: A Boeing 707 travelling at 600 mph 'would result only in local damage which would not cause collapse'
They even go on to say, "The structural analysis carried out by the firm of Worthington, Skilling, Helle & Jackson is the most complete and detailed of any ever made for any building structure."
As I said, your hugging of the official story is all FAITH based because no one has been shown NISTs calculations.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
BTW, I notice that you have no response regarding to explain why BBC reported that WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually collapsed.
Also you would like to explain how the first three seconds of the collapse were free-fall (a factor only seen in controlled demolitions where the acceleration then allows the weight of the building to crush the remainder below with gravity)
WTC7 was a classic CD and also a world record if it was a CD and yet you accept it was all fire?
KombiPode 1 year ago
@KombiPode "why BBC reported that WTC7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it actually collapsed"
Because it was a ticker item at Reuters. They had no idea which building it was. But the FDNY had expected the collapse for hours, and surely told the press. It was a simple slip: Someone mistook expectation for fact.
"the first three seconds of the collapse were free-fall" - WRONG. The first 1.75 seconds of north wall collapse were slower. That's when the buckling occurred which lead to 2s free fall
PapaOystein 1 year ago
@PapaOystein
"Because it was a ticker item at Reuters. They had no idea which building it was. But the FDNY had expected the collapse for hours, and surely told the press"
That might carry water if during those ´hours´ there had been a report of fears of the WTC7 going to collapse (quote impressive given its head of the CIA and SEC who later claimed to have lost 1000s of case files affecting 1000s of white-collar crime cases, including Enron investigation) as well as being New Yorks EMC.
KombiPode 1 year ago
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@KombiPode "if during those ´hours´ there had been a report of fears of the WTC7 going to collapse "
See z0LxNtNnXi8 Breaking News caption starting at 0:35, then after 2:14 collapse is covered live, seconds after occurred.
See grvHpzgRyUw CNN at 4:10 p.m. reporting "MAY COLLAPSE"
PapaOystein 1 year ago
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@PapaOystein
"Because it was a ticker item at Reuters. They had no idea which building it was."
Is that why they were calling it the 47-story Solomon Brothers building? The other oft used name for the 47-story Building 7 which housed the offices of Solomon Brothers?
You keep lying to yourself man. you are not lying to me. You are one of 2 things - Trapped in denialism due to brainwashing and guilt for your actions based on the 911 lies 2. A paid shill.
KombiPode 1 year ago
@Denierbud11
If the twin towers were Controlled demolitions then they were world records for highest CD ever. The 3rd highest at the time would be WTC7. So on 911 three world record implosions were succeeded not by sophisticated sequenced cutter-charges but by fire alone. If you believe that then you must believe in Allah and magic fire, cause it must have been Allah who suspended the laws of physics on 911.
KombiPode 1 year ago