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There's a fine difference between loving your fellow man and having sexual intercourse with your fellow man. Check yourself before you prove yourself, to be stupid.
@CentristFiasco 'Loving your fellow man' means mankind which includes woman & yes there is a difference between loving mankind and having a sexual relationship with any particular member of mankind. Obviously you forgot to check yourself because thats one stupid ass thing to say. Jay is one really smart man.
Oh man, I just fell in love so hard, although I'm not part of hip-hop and lack that whole Y chromosome/ testosterone thing."When we find ourselves believing that killing a man makes us more of a man, but loving a man makes us less of a man, it's probably time to reexamine our definition of manhood." Yes, men. This lady agrees. CAPICHE?
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well hip hop is not about killin people at all that would be gangsta rap which is a form of rap music. Men do love men we love our fathers, friends, brothers, male cousins etc anything other than that i dont think we as men were designed to do. thas just my opinion
Hip Hop also used to be a place where people cared more about lyricism, skill, and talent rather than who you slept with, but I guess that era's over, too. I mean, it's not like Mr. Cee ever did anything good in his career, and being homophobic is a really intelligent stance to take, right?
@PimpMyParadigm Actually no, there is a big different between loving a man and having buttsex with a man. Obviously, you need to think more. But sadly, you're too ignorant in your gay agenda to comprehend that.
@ajadefish There is nothing to hate... we just have more standards and more human than you. We actually want this world to continue just like the way it used to be. Not go to hell
I just saw part of your video on the Rachel Maddow show tonight....love it....love you! So, I checked out the website she gave on her show.....great stuff....I am an instant fan. You're incredible! Thanks!
Just to add: Equally - homosexuals don't ELECT to be homosexual. Therefore, it happens in nature. If something happens in nature, it's natural. Have you intended to procreate every time you've had sex? I doubt it. Think of all the things we do, invent, create, consume, etc etc ad infinitum that weren't set out by nature. By treating illness, preventing violence and making items to reverse effects of eg weather, we 'go against' nature every day. Why limit this NATURE MUST REIGN bullshit to sex?
What I think is interesting about the 'anal sex is against nature' argument against homosexuality is that not only do these people frequently not take into account that over 60% of heterosexual practice it (and around a third of homosexuals don't), but that this 'things must be how ~nature~ intended em' mindset only seems to be applied to sex. You're sitting at a damn PC and probably wearing manmade fabrics. Diagnosed with cancer tomorrow? You'd get chemo. Is that how 'nature' intended it also?
You can tell when an individual's argument is failing when they decide to block you from replying. I find it unfortunate that despite the important message in this clip, that some of the viewers here are so willing to express their inability to accept and learn from their ignorance. I wish there were more well read people like illdoc1 in the world, it would make it a safer, healthier and more productive place to live in.
@janderson2000 Actually the LGBT community is normal- it's a large vibrant community which has done no harm to humanity in comparison to the damage religion/ racism or any other oppressive system has done. It is the type of oppression you exercise in your comment. Please get help, and get an education- it will help you in the long run.
@midgysamurai15 No, it's not. No matter how many times you repeat that it's normal won't change that. You know down deep it's not normal, too. Calling it normal is just pure PC denial and rationalization.
If you cant understand this then your lost bro. When we determine if a person is a criminal or not we use the law to judge, not the actual person. As is with morality if we are going to determine who is right and wrong we need an external standard to our beliefs to, and you dont have one! Science doesnt prove homosexuality is right or wrong it cant. Your an idiot dude because you cant wrap your head around these concepts. Get help from your partner maybe he can explain it to you
Science doesn't deal in right or wrong. I never said "wrong." I said not NORMAL,as in the terms of abnormal biology.
Science can certainly prove it is abnormal to have a sex drive that seeks to end your gene line by planting your seed into a mate that cannot "mate." Just as it's abnormal to want to fuck animals or children. None of them are suitable mates, so if your sexually attracted to them, you have a sex drive that is determined to end your gene line.
@janderson2000 what are you talking about bro I agree whole 100% I wasnt calling you an Idiot I was calling midgysamuri an idiot. I think Homosexuality is abnormal behaviour, which is what started this whole argument. The author of this video called it normal and I asked him in What context?? We are on the same side brother homosexuality is wrong
@Jpain720 Oh, ok. You must have hit "reply" on the wrong message (mine).I don't go into whether it's wrong, but I know it's a biological defect of nature. Just because there is a regular occurrence of it in the population doesn't make it normal. There's lots of birth defects that happen consistently in a small percentage of the population. That doesn't mean being born blind is "normal" as it is a serious detriment to survival.Being gay is serious detriment life's prime goal: reproduction.
@janderson2000 I agree with that, but I take it you must to some agree feel that its wrong, i mean the undertone of your argument suggest that you do. Either way you made some pretty good points, things that I can use. Thanks
@Jpain720 I'm not religious, so don't usually think things are wrong that don't hurt people. My objection to homosexuality only really kicks in when they want to involve other people who have no choice: children. As in children being denied normal and natural mother and father pairings, and those using science and surrogate mothers to alter the very foundation of all life from the beginning of time. That's when and where it starts affecting other people's lives and overall society.
@Jpain720 The unfortunate thing that you established in all your statements was your inability to use the perspective of a philosophy of belief that was representative of people as a whole. You are basing moral, right and wrong on the same institution and figure head which justified institutions of oppression and dehumanisation. Your insult only proves what you hide behind and the veiled sexism displayed only shows the lacking of your knowledge. Please get help.
@midgysamurai15 Listen dude we can preach circles around you telling you that it is abnormal behaviour however if you insist that its normal that no only are you suffering from one disorder (homosexuality) your also suffereing from insanity, people who are insane dont know they are in sane, they believe abnormal is normal and you my friend fit that definition. Im not trying to be rude I just want to help you, thats all....
we? lol I don't "preach" man... I'm an atheist... The kind that gay equality advocates hate, because they think we're automatically allies. I don't say being gay is morally wrong. I say it is an obvious biological defect and/or psychological disorder. I don't persecute people for being born with a birth defect, but I also don't pretend that it can't have serious effects on others if we pretend it's normal.
It's like if we said denying drivers' licenses to blind people was bigoted. LMAO
@Jpain720 So when in doubt, call upon mental illness and assume an individual's sexuality and background? Well done, you sure learnt a lot about your religion then for sure. Please, I am saying this as some one who has worked in this for many years, get yourself some help. This hatred is not good for you.
@janderson2000 Actually, deep down it is quite normal. Any educated person with an understanding of genetics and biology would tell you so. I guess it clearly establishes your level of education then doesn't it?
@midgysamurai15 You're hysterical. My level of education is bachelors working on masters. The next stupid propaganda shit you're going to chime is homosexuality has the purpose of keeping the surplus population down.
Homosexuality WAS in the DSM as a mental illness as recently as the 60s. That is where it should have stayed. Just removing it from the book and forcing society to adapt to an OBVIOUS flaw doesn't change the facts that if everybody had it, the entire species would die
@janderson2000 You do realise that homosexuality was removed from the DSM because it was proven to be very normal sexuality right? The people who shoved in to the DSM were the same people who thought hysteria was a real metal illness and considered Freud to 100% correct. Yes, but a bachelors going on to a masters in what? Biochemistry? Genetics? Psychology? Medicine? Biology?
We are continuously learning new things about our selves- science is in constant motion of understanding.
@midgysamurai15 So just because I can do crack does that mean I should do it. I mean maybe I like the way I feel when im high, and if I dont hurt anybody, and I still do my job the way it should be done should it still be illegal for me to do so? And why should it be illegal? cigarrettes kill more people a year than crack does and they are legal? So why not legalize crack also? I mean lets legalize everything, to each his own right, who cares if its abnormal every body should be happy right?
@Jpain720 Well, in the countries which do have more lenient drug use laws there has been a decline in drug use and drug addiction actually. Also, what have drugs got to do with consensual sex- it is quite worrying that you do not know the difference.
@midgysamurai15 lol I'll answer you honestly and respectfully, but let me know if you're not a young gay male... Because that's my guess. I'm right, right?
@janderson2000 Human bonding and affection is quite a vital thing in human biology though, and to be quite honest, the load of nerves located in that area have been proven to provide mainly a sexual function. It's absolutely amazing how a person can completely disregard the rest of a previous response in an attempt to sound witty.
Please, go do a major in genetics/ biology/ psychology/ medicine and then dispute science.
@midgysamurai15 I disregard because it's just filled with stupidity, just like your most recent message. Ok, I'll respond. No, they did not believe Freud 100%, nor did they need to rely on Freud. Also, Hysteria is the early term for psychosomatic illness, which indeed exists. And, no, homosexuality was not removed from the DSM because the learned things they didn't know before. It was removed for political reasons and a relentless gay lobby. Lots of things happen for political reasons.
@janderson2000 "it was removed for political reasons" is the same excuse the CWA uses to justify their homophobia. Please clear up your understanding of the DSM and the APA before making unfounded statements. Also, hysteria was a term invented to justify the sexual suppression/ oppression of sexuality, which you would have known if you learnt the subject instead of ignoring facts.
@midgysamurai15 Calling ass sex between men normal male bonding is like calling a person giving a dog a blow job normal human/pet bonding. No part of the male anatomy is intended for a sexual purpose for another man. You're absurd. Sex has the goal of reproduction, so it would be ridiculous to say nature has some interest and engineering intended to bring men together in a futile perversion of its function. Science has not proven ANY purpose of homosexuality. It's a birth defect. Period.
@janderson2000 When did a dog come into this discussion? What is up with homophobes and their weird obsession with consensual human sex and bestiality? Please get help, there is a difference between the two. It's funny that you absolutely denied the question of your understanding of biology/ genetics/ psychology whilst making such daft statements. Science has proven plenty- please learn to study. If reproduction was our primary goal in sex, there would be no need for the sexual stimulus we have.
@midgysamurai15 You're too stupid to waste anymore time one. Enjoy your homophilia along with your pedophilia and zoophilia. They are all sexual disorders, and they all use the same arguments to promote their particular defect.
@janderson2000 Fine by me if you wish to hide your cowardice in your homophobia by using the whole "u r stoopid" stance. It only proves how little you know and how petty your excuse is for not being able to research. I wish you luck in your education, and maybe one day will learn about the difference between consensual sex and sexual disorders. It may help you in the long run in your own life.
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@midgysamurai15 Consensual is irrelevant. Two gays can consent to eating each other's poop...That doesn't make it normal. You're so blind to your flawed logic. Everything you say is wrong...including using a made-up word for a made-up phobia. You are clearly gay so can't handle the fact that you have an abnormal and very broken sexual attraction.
@janderson2000 I find it amusing how you go back on your own words "You're too stupid to waste anymore time one" clearly there is inconsistency in your own stance that you have to rely on mere labelling to make a baseless claim. Please go educate yourself, for one thing the scat reference you make is actually rather high in heterosexual communities than in LGBT ones. Learn to research maybe? Considering that you were quick to deny bonding, I feel that consent is very relevant to the topic.
@midgysamurai15 Actually, wrong.. scat is more active among homosexuals. Gay guys only have two options either blow jobs or anal sex. So the poop is most likely to come out ;P
@midgysamurai15 Consexual sex/Sexual disorder, IT"S STILL THE SAME. I already did enough extensive research to know that it is a CHOICE, it is unsafe, and it really does goes against NATURE. You can try to find all the excuse in the world, you and I both know that it is WRONG WRONG WRONG.
@RobStillLives Wrong, actually society doesn't need homosexuals to stay afloat. If the hippies weren't too butthurt to have a sexual revolution, USA today wouldn't be so relax in having sex and popping out babies. Abortion was another reason why people became so careless and started to have sex even more.
if we cant come to agreements about where morality comes from then we have no need of arguing. I know morality comes from an external Source called God. If Right and Wrong didnt exist then every action/conduct would be reduced to a matter of opinion which is neutral. Right and wrong would be words with out meaning, but the fact that those words do exist must mean that an actual RIGHT and WRONG must exist. and it must be objective or else it would be right or wrong it would be an opinion
Okay im going to try this one more time then im done. 1) Im not a homophob, I dont hate homosexuals I just thing its wrong BIG DIFFERENCE. 2) I stated my reasons for why I think its wrong, 3) you keep focusing on irrelevant points. Who made you judge to decide that homosexuality is right/normal? According to whom? We have the mental capacity to understand things like consent, hence the difference? Thats really the best you can offer? Prove that scientifically
@Jpain720 Saying you're not a homophobe but then adding you think homosexuality is wrong sounds just as hypocritical as person who claims they are not a racist but believe people of colour are wrong. There is no difference, those are just excuse for your homophobia. Well who made you judge that being gay was wrong? If you trust the God you love so much, move on and let that judgement be on to him. It is also disturbing that you don't seem to understand the meaning of love and consent. Get help.
Because I disagree with homosexuality im a homophob.. So because I disagree with illicit drug use that means I hate all drug users too right? Your an idiot dude. The laws of nature are always changing? when has gravity not worked? when has the earth stop spinning on its axis? When has the Sun not give light? When has 2+2 not equalled 4? Just because we FIND new things doesnt mean that the LAWS of nature are changing...
@Jpain720 Hahah, so when all else fails you rely on insult? Wow, Jesus must be proud of you. Homosexuality is a sexuality, it does not damage you unlike drug use and addiction. I think you need to re- learn a few things because you sound so misguided in your education. Have you ever learnt biology? Did a lesson or two in it? Biomedicine? Genetics? We are learning new things all the time about ourselves and the world around us. The natural world is in constant motion.
Brother/Sister Lets clear this up. The question at hand is "Is homosexuality wrong". First of all you cant answer this with science because it deals with morality, the metaphyisical, not with science or the tangible. You cant scientifically prove homosexuality is morally right, no than you can prove morally wrongzoophilia is wrong. See above I wrote more
@Jpain720 By all means justify your homophobia with a 2000 year old text book which was written in the one perspective, in a world very different to ours, which is also the same book used to oppress and promote sexism, racism and justify genocide. Our morals and ethics are intertwined with consent so unlike zoophilia which is to have sex with something which does not have the capacity to consent- homosexuality is not that. It has all been proven, you're just denying the reality- the facts.
You cant use science to justify homosexuality by saying "that sexuality is bound withing our genetics" then crucify those who practice pedophilia and zoophilia, thats selective enforcment, however in your attempt to exclude them you then switch to the metaphysical and say "Its morally wrong" ..according to whom not science! Who made you judge? If you say its wrong because the majority agrees that its wrong, well millions disagree with homosexuality also? Your argument is sooo lame dude.
@Jpain720 Another fact one should mention is that the majority of pedophiles and zoophiles have been listed as heterosexuals, yet no one is holding some crusade against oppressing those who do identify as straight. Not that one should support such a motion either. Our psychology is genetic, humans have the mental capacity to understand the concept of consent. The abnormality is when you disregard/ ignore consent. I have not excluded anything, I have provided facts, which you ignore.
I dont see people only as walking genitalia, however thier organs are part of their genetic make up, therefore it must be considered when evaluating their sexual preferences, whenever you abuse or make abnormal use of the bodys organs that its considered to be pathological. homosexuality is associated with so many other mental disorders? Depression, bulimia, Suicide, ect if homosexuality was perfactly okay it wouldnt have so many negative side affects, thats not what normal does, sorry
@Jpain720"Depression, bulimia, Suicide, ect if homosexuality was perfactly okay it wouldnt have so many negative side affects" again, look up the APA and learn to read some medical journals before you start lying about such serious mental illnesses. Those things affect heterosexuals too- so really your point is invalid. Did you ever consider that continuous condemnation of forcing someone into self hatred (like homophobia) could play a major factor here? Learn to research bub.
I thank God for God, as in Jesus Christ. man is so twisted now a days that despite technology and science they still believe that the anal excretory canal is also the entrance for a penis. This subjective morality that you want to see displayed in society is in all reality chaotic, "do whatever makes you happy type thinking" when you try and turn immoral temporary pleasure into a permenant way of living, your left morally bankrupt and most of all unhappy. Youll soon figure that out.
@Jpain720 So the cat came out the bag, seriously, I feel so sorry for the Christians out there who actually do good things and never pass judgement on anyone- then to have people like yourself warping literature written 2000 years back to justify your own hatred. Jesus never asked for your hatred, I mean are you even aware of the fact that the good man hung out with those hated by society? Gave them love? It's moments like these where I feel sorry for Jesus, for having a shit fan base.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." That what the Bible says about homosexuality, thats not manipulating scritpure its telling it like it is, I dont hate homosexuals but what you do is still wrong. Sorry brother
@Jpain720 You also do realise that the bible was written two thousand years ago with the expectation of denying the years of philosophical work established before that right? You do realise that not everyone follows the bible or believes in a God? And for those who are educated enough to read the bible, they read in context to their times and with an understanding of the history of biblical times. I also find it very sexist that you would assume that I am a man. Homophobia is not healthy.
LIsten we are arguing about 8 different points here, so lets take this point at a time. 1) I dont hate anybody, however I strongly disagree with homosexuality, as I disagree with other psychological disorders such as pedophilia or zoophilia. 2) The Bible was inspired by God who transends time, and the morality therein is objective therefore time isnt a problem and it never will be because His word transcends time and whatever is objective is uninfluienced by outside opinion. See above.
@Jpain720 The DSM removed homosexuality from the list of disorders back in the 1970's when they realised that it was only listed as an illness due to the puritanical practitioners at the time. You are failing to understand that zoophilia and pedophilia is the act of having sex with someone or something which does not have the capacity to accept. Homosexuality is just a sexuality. The world isn't run by the bible, nor is it the only representation of what people assumed to believe was God.
Now if you try to involve science to establish moral objectives as it pertains to sexual behaviours, (which is what you are trying to do) science then could only come to one conclusion and is all sex that is not procreative in nature is unnatural. Nonprocreative sex serves absolutely no purpose to the individual human or the human race, scientifically speaking that is. Now, you can justify it a million and one ways, but you cant use science to say homosexuality is right.
@Jpain720 Again, science would prove you wrong there because if human sexuality was purely concerned with procreation, there would be no meaning or no use to the nerves in those areas which stimulate the pleasure we get. Not all sex is reproductive, because not everyone can reproduce. On top of that, humans have been given the mental capacity (like other animals) to adopt and build families that go beyond mere blood relation. Our sexuality is bound within our genetics. Scientifically proven :)
Dude, do you lack the capacity to reason? You cant be subjectively right, if morality wasnt objective then "right" and "wrong" would be words with no meaning. EVERYTHING would be reduced to a matter of OPINION which is NEUTRAL. You cant have your cake and eat it too. On the one hand you say our sexuality is bound within our genetics, if that is the case then pedophilia and zoophilia should be a crime because it is NATURAL. Read above.
@Jpain720 The whole point about having cake is to eat it- I really don't know how you go about in this world with that level of homophobia and ignorance about issues like genetics and consent, but it really looks like you need an education and some guidance of your own. Of course our sexuality is bound within our genetics, and so is our psychology. As stated over and over again, we have the mental and psychological capacity to understand things like consent- hence the difference.
You have nothing to stand on so your mixing "science" with weak morality to justifiy an obvious wrong. The least I ask is that you be objective in this discussion. How do you determine right and wrong? Riddle me this, how do you establish Morals are? Its probably based on little reason and much emotion, in which case..... hahaha alright dude, Im done. Later bro
@Jpain720 Facts that can be representative of any individual in any circumstance compared to the teachings of religious material which is not representative of anyone? I'm sorry, but I am not the one hiding behind God, justifying homophobia. I also find it amusing that mid way through your half assed explanation, you back out like a coward and failed to provide and stable fact that disproves the normalcy of homosexuality. It is clear that you need to educate yourself more, please get help.
Listen Nature is regulated by rules, they are called the "laws of nature", these laws dictate who nature behaves .. like gravity for instance, or math, or the speed of light. These things are stable and unchanging. Now if the Nature has LAWS then that would indicate a LAW MAKER, His name is God he also gave man a MORAL LAW that should dictate our behaviour its called the BIBLE. This is why I think homosexuality is wrong, not because I said so, rather because the LAW MAKER (God) said so.
@Jpain720 The natural world is so diverse and unpredictable hence the continuous study into it. The rules are constantly changing because there is always something new to learn. The God you worship, nor the book you read would really count as a good stand point for right and wrong, considering that in the bible God has killed way more people unjustly than Satan has. Also, you are forgetting that God didn't write the bible. People did thousands of years ago.
I understand love quite clearly Jesus gave his life for me, to save me from my sin and im happy for that. He also gave his life for you too, and for the murderer and the child molester, and for the rapist. So yeah I understand love but i also understand the difference between right and wrong, And I know that when we choose to to do that, human relations are destroyed. Homosexuality tears the social and moral fabric of mankind. And if you want to contribute to that, well be my guest, later.
@Jpain720 You've mentioned exiting out of this discussion a few times but even then you fail at the honesty of your own words. Again, the problem is that you are forcing an ideology which is not representative of the world (and has discrimination within it's own) on to universal civil issues. Historically speaking, it is oppression and discrimination which breaks a society down. Not love. Not self acceptance and respect. Please seek help and fix up your insecurities, this hatred is not healthy.
I wasnt insulting you when i called you an idiot, i was simply stating a fact. Because the world is in motion doesnt mean that the laws of nature are changing. Bro the overwhelming majority of america and the rest of the world disagrees with homosexuality, so in this aspect you and your misguided friends are the minority. Butthole sex is very damaging, but if your dying to tune a meat whistle then hay go ahead I just wanted to warn you that its not the way to go.
@Jpain720 Actually, you were. It is mighty petty of you to hide now especially since you've been using God all this time to justify your null excuses for homophobia. Any educated individual working in the field of genetics, biology and over all natural sciences will prove you wrong- your failure is your denial and that is due to your lack of education. Please get help- your homophobia is damaging to humanity.
Listen im not hiding from you nor am I hiding behind God. Gods word is Gods word and I believe in it. We can argue circles around each other and it isnt going to change how I feel or how you feel. This is why in the beginning I wanted to establish how YOU determined morality.
You do realise that google does show some rather inaccurate information? Check up the APA or google scholar or any other medical journal with proper qualifications and they will all say that any unprotected sexual activity will lead to some damage to the body. This is not exclusive to homosexuality- anal is quite popular amongst heteros too. Also, why are you comparing consensual sex to acts of violence and violation of consent? There is a severe difference.
You asked me why am I comparing consensual sex to acts of violence... NO SIR Please get it right, I said Morality is OBJECTIVE, YOU my friend said morality is SUBJECTIVE, and I told you plain and clear that if you hold those convictions to be true, then you cant not call the murderer, rapist, or pedophile" immoral". How could you? Morality is subective right, no? Subjective-existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought. Another definition for you.
@Jpain720 Wow, you forget your posts quite quickly, you were comparing consensual sex to acts of violence- don't hide form it now. Morals are subjective because of the ideologies we all as individuals follow- ethics however is objective and objectively speaking, homosexual is quite natural and common. Not only in the natural world, but in the human world. Don't you get tired of being homophobic, it's not a very healthy state of mind.
What?? Morals are subjective however Ethics are objective?!? they are synonyms dude! " I may be dum, but at least im not dum" durrrrr. Listen bro, the U.S. Government found a way to justify 450 yrs of slavery, the Spanish manipulated scripture to justify the conquisition, and now your manipulating science to justify homosexuality. At the end of the day the truth remains, a penis wasnt made for a penis/anus nor a vagina for a vagina. no matter how much you want you cant change that fact.
@Jpain720 Actually, the whole idea of ethics was that unlike morals, which are predominantly religious/ political based is that ethics can be used universally in all context. I find it quite unfortunate for your case that you break the loving relationships down to the mere genitals of an individual, I worry that it's quite likely that you treat people on such a petty basis as well. Slavery is an oppressive institution, sexuality is about identity/relationships/love. Learnt the difference.
@Jpain720 also there is no truth to what you are saying because it appears like homosexuals regardless of your misconceptions of them have managed fight against what ever bullshit history has thrown their way, like those who are oppressed by racism. Sexuality transcends genitalia, now you may personally view a woman as a walking vagina, but to someone else- they see a whole person. This is applicable to anyone who respects their own, and another's sexuality.
Another strong indicator that homosexuality is wrong is that, the fact that it has been around for thousands of years and its still socially unacceptable!! People from all ages from every clime and place inherently know that its wrong. Its not some wild idea created by conservitists rather is a belief held WORLDWIDE! Your just in denial about it, which I understand because denial is a unconcious defense mecanism, therefore those who are in denail dont know they are in denial...
@Jpain720 Again, null. Before the Abrahamic faiths took an oppressive role in our history, homosexuality was viewed as quite a normal thing. Great philosophers thousands of years ago found no harm in human sexuality, but found harm in the puritanical hatred wielded towards the understanding of sexuality. It's always been the case that the most learned of people know the value and importance of acceptance and the detriment in the nature of unfounded hatred. A hatred you demonstrate well. Get help
Not only did those cultures practice homosexuality but also, they sacrificed babies, pedophilia, and beastality was common practice also. Not to mention those greek philosophers that you so believe also thought that the world was flat, and held up on the backs of elephants. Polygamy was standard in that time and females were almost always considered second class citizens??? So you want to use these type of societies to justify the normalcy of homosexuality? Okay have it your way...
@Jpain720 Dude, are you aware that Abrahamic faiths also had the same hand in the similar destruction of society? And in all honesty is was those same Abrahamic followers that practiced similar forms of brutality (The Crusades? Witch hunts? On going child abuse with in the churches? the list goes on). Also, why Greek? Are you so blinded by the world that you simply ignore Eastern history? And here you are crying about racism...
Please, fix up your homophobia, it is not a healthy state of mind.
So your slaming abraham then your giving props to Jesus Christ?? Jesus Christ said " I am the seed of Abraham"?!?! in Other words hes abrahams desendent, secondly if your talking about islam I dont know, I dont deal with their faith. Thirdly, you cant blame the faith of Abraham Judeo-christianity for vile acts caused by wild people. Do you know how many times you have contradicted yourself over the coarse of this conversation? not to mention focusing on irrelevant truths to side step the truth.
@Jpain720 Abrahamic- this covers the three dominant faiths to come out of that. Also, you did start the side stepping a few comments ago when i responded to your null claims about homosexuality causing eating disorders and falsely associating consensual relationships with oppressive systems and acts of violence. It's funny how you are defending something as widely misinterpreted as religion to something so innate as sexuality. You also seem to hide behind God when it comes to hatred.
3) homosexuality is associated with a host of mental disorders and more prone to STDs, thats fact if you want the website I can give it to you, now that DOESNT deny the fact that those "other " disorders arent experiences by heterosexuals or that those other disorders are homosexual specific, im just simply stating the fact that there exists a strong correlation. Did I miss something? Soo which one of these point do you want me to destroy you on first?
@Jpain720 The reason why there is a possible link between the two is due to the puritanical nature that still resonates with the illiterate of our society. This was studied extensively by well renowned medical practitioners and the APA. You tell a person enough times that they are an abomination and are not deserving of equal rights and you are bound to breed an environment of self loathing. These same disorders are prevalent in racial minorities too for those same reasons. You missed plenty.
Being gay is normal? Seriously dude, its normal in what context? In the mind of a pedophile raping 5 yr old boys is normal? So first how do you define what normal is,and secondly if your normal is based on subjective morality then you cant call the pedophile or rapist or murderer immoral, how could you? You make good videos but this one fails. and Gay is wrong people, just because you can do soemthing doesnt mean you should. If thats your mindset then legalize Crack..
@Jpain720 You could take a lesson on the whole "loving a man" business. Is it just me or are homophobes so lazy that in order to make a weak point you deliberately allude a consensual relationship to pedophilia? Homosexuality is a sexuality, it's been around long enough to prove it's normalcy and it's high time we accepted it as a fact and moved on as a species. How about you go make a valid complaint about say... the ever increasing nature amount of people who hide behind God to justify hate?
"Homosexuality is a sexuality, it's been around long enough to prove it's normalcy" Seriously okay I got one.....RACISM!!, its been around for quite some time, and murder, and of coarse your favorite pedophilia. So we should accept these things as a fact and move on as a species also right? Those people have a right to express themselves?? Do they not? That argument was a genetical fallacy, and calling it whimsical would actually be a compliment. Homosexuality is morally wrong, end of story.
@Jpain720 Difference is that racism is system built upon oppressing those who are different from the "superior". Pedophilia is the action of having sex with a minor who does not have the capacity to consent. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality is just a sexuality. There is no default to it, there is nothing special about it, it's just how one individual's sexuality will differ from another. I seriously wonder about the morals you run by if you can justify homophobia, yet oppose racism. Get help.
So basically your saying just because you consent to something means its okay to do it? Is that how we determine morality? What about self mutilators or those who use illicit drugs? are they hurting you if they do these things in the privacy of their own homes does it affect you? No, but its still wrong, Morality is objective, its has little to do with empathy and nothing to do with opinion. If homosexuality was okay the human body/nature woudl have been designed for it!
@Jpain720 There are many scientists and doctors around the world who'd be happy enough to point out that our bodies are designed for the sexualities we come with, because as we all know- sexuality is innate. Point: Self harmers and drug abusers are damaging themselves since they are destructive actions. Having a safe, consensual relationship with another person it not damaging in anyway- except for homophobes like yourself. Then again, it's not really your business. Also, morality is subjective.
what scientists are you referring to? Anal sex is very damaging its actually for that reason AIDS is so rampant in the homosexualy comunities, a simply google search can prove that. By the way if you believe morality is subjective then you have no right to tell the murderer, rapist, or pedophile that they are "immoral"... How could you morality is subjective. Sex is primarily used for reproduction, which cannot happen within a homosexual relationship, its UNNATURAL.
@Jpain720 how do you define unnatural? Are you saying that men and women who are infertile should not be allowed to continue with happy loving relationships due to their inability to bear a child?It takes more than just a working reproductive system to raise a family- just look at the number of children who are pushed in to foster care and adoption. In the natural world, there are thousands of animals and plants who can prove you wrong so that argument is a fail too. Seriously, get help.
Okay im going to give you some basic definitions and lets see if you have to common sense to discern what im saying. 1 Anus-the EXcretory opening at the end of the alimentary canal. 2.Unnatural-contrary to the laws or course of nature. So if you take a penis and stick it in a mans Anus, then obviously your acting contrary to the course of nature because its an excretory organ. Thats science no matter how you want to manipulate it to justify your own defensive ways of thinking.
@Jpain720 Dude, that has been taken straight out of conservapedia and whazoo pseudo scientists whom the CWA go crying to when a minority group gets their rights. I should also like to state that any health practitioner will tell you that your should protect yourself before having sex- applicable to all orifices. As for nature? Ok, so are you stating that the presence of sensory nerves which do stimulate pleasure are the result of some alternate being's dirty work? Your homophobia is sad, man.
I saw this book in a used book store the other day and picked it up! I've read the first few chapters and is pretty good so far. Thanks for the recommendation! You should start posting videos again soon!
I swallow more balls than Super Pac-Man, I used to be a crack man now im a butt crack man, When i go to jail i back that thing up man, Im rollin and cornholin = your gay cousins bac end, slob on my knob if you got a moustache, I destroy and crush ass with my powerful thrusts fag
Being gay is not normal, only liberals try and make it normal. In fact less than 5% of the worlds population is gay. If being gay was normal don't you think they would be able to procreate. If being gay was normal then gays wouldn't gets AIDS more than straight people. Gays make up all over 65% of all aids cases. The other Aids cases are IV drug users and people that sleep around with multiple partners and bi partners. Being gay is not normal. Just like killing is not normal but it happens
@rosebudIII I don't know that reason just saying homosexuals make up 66% of all AIDS cases. You can take from that what you want too. Lesibians only make up about 10%. IV drug users make up about 12%. The rest are people who have had sex with a bisexual and sleep around with multiple partners. AIDS is not a disease its a punishment. MAybe God is trying to tell all people to change their ways. No one is perfect but you have to try and follow the bible as best you can and learn from mistakes
@EMB801211 God will have something to say to you when you reach those Pearly Gates, but it's not going to be the praise you seem to expect. Do everyone a favour and learn to treat other human beings -even the gay ones -with the respect they deserve. I don't know where in your as you pulled those numbers from, but they're wrong. For the record, the largest growing group of people who contract HIV are straight people.
@EMB801211 You're equating "not normal" with "bad", which is a mistake that only the profoundly ignorant could make. Being left handed is not normal. Being black is not normal. Being a red head is not normal. Being extremely tall is not normal. Having green eyes is not normal. Being highly intelligent is not normal. Being unusual is not bad.
For the record, worldwide straight people are more likely to contract HIV than gay people, and gay people do procreate.
@ERubyV9 there are more left handed people than there are gays in thw world. guess what you can choose which had to write with too jackass. being black is normal as being white. In the world blacks and whites are rqually represented about 15-20% . And no gays can not procreate jackass unless they have sex with the opposite sex then they aren't gay. keep yur usless arguements coming. i'll win everytime
@ERubyV9 I think sticking a cock up your ass and down your throat is really bad. What say you????????
P.s How have I disrepected gay people??? Because i don't agree with them. I dont condone violence or hatred towards gays just don't agree wit their lifestyle. Sounds like you might be gay, hope you seek foregiveness from God and repent.
@EMB801211 Sorry to inform you you, but plenty of heterosexuals have oral and anal sex. Those things are not actually exclusive to gay men. Hell, some heterosexual men enjoy an act called 'pegging.' I don't suggest you Google it, as it may offend you - just use your imagination. :)
I hope I haven't traumatically shattered your extremely sheltered worldview.
@ryuuseicha So now everyone on youtube knows you like taking it up the ass, thats called TMI !!!!! Not a picture I wanna see. Two people from the same sex weren't meant to have sex together its unnatural and sick. Plain and simple!!! But to each his own just keep it in the bedroom. I don't care if your gay I just don't want it pushed in my face. A persons sex life should stay in the bedroom. end of story!!! I don't care if your straight or gay its no ones business unless you make it someones!
@EMB801211 I love the hypocrisy of homophobes. In the same post, you managed to pass and incredibly offensive moral judgement on homosexuality, then beg indifference: "But to each his own just keep it in the bedroom."
So, it's wrong, offensive, and disgusting... but you don't care, so long as it stays "in the bedroom"?
you sir, are freaking awesome. your levels of intelligence and mastery of language are a breath of fresh air in this world. George Carlin would have been proud of hearing you precision laser like focus in these.
no because his blogs are hip hop based...rock and goth obviously has no cares in the gay issue. there was a time when guys looking like girls was the IN thing in rock..and rockers and goths still wear make up and no one in there community says anything...if a rapper did Any of those things they would be shunned by there whole community
@mrjamesb56 re: "Tell you what, the next time We get hit with a terrorist attack that kills 3000 and requires action on foreign soil , I'll let You & illdoc1 Handle it." That is bigoted, meaning you assume a gay person couldn't do a good job. I want the best qualified translators, and the best foreign policy insiders on the case. Regardless of sexual orientation. Also, I don't care to take what the Taliban does to gays as a political cue. We're supossed to be the the good guys, remember?
We as men need to re-examine and re-define "What is A Man". If you believe having no job (or any interest in getting one), robbing and stealing from others, spending time in jail, beating up your wife, not taking care of your children, labeling yourself a "thug" and ending disputes with a gun, hating anyone and everyone who isn't exactly like you-- is "manly" you are wrong. We as men need to "MAN-UP" and become real men as role models to our wives, children and community. Much Respect.
When we find ourselves believing that killing a man makes us more of a man and loving a man makes us less of a man. It's probably time to reexamine our criteria for manhood
Eloquently amazing. I'm sad it took me this long to discover your videos.
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3dtheoutlaw 1 week ago
I think I just found my future partner...you're amazing, illdoc1.
TheNikkisz 1 week ago
@orrie10 Please take your hate speech somewhere else.
OWSStudents 1 month ago
being gay dosnt happen in my pants.
bladelivingston 1 month ago
There's a fine difference between loving your fellow man and having sexual intercourse with your fellow man. Check yourself before you prove yourself, to be stupid.
CentristFiasco 1 month ago
@CentristFiasco 'Loving your fellow man' means mankind which includes woman & yes there is a difference between loving mankind and having a sexual relationship with any particular member of mankind. Obviously you forgot to check yourself because thats one stupid ass thing to say. Jay is one really smart man.
global001 1 month ago
You're kinda perfect.
TruthSerum101 2 months ago
Oh man, I just fell in love so hard, although I'm not part of hip-hop and lack that whole Y chromosome/ testosterone thing."When we find ourselves believing that killing a man makes us more of a man, but loving a man makes us less of a man, it's probably time to reexamine our definition of manhood." Yes, men. This lady agrees. CAPICHE?
sepdet13 2 months ago 2
There is definitely a problem with the youth's perception of manhood. If you don't believe me, go to ANY hip hop show.
Maybe one day, girls will go to hip hop shows again.
bkwildlife 2 months ago
This!
BonnieHalfElven 2 months ago
Nailed it.
chefboyardeeman 3 months ago
I love ya man!!!!
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3dtheoutlaw 3 months ago
lil waynes fuckin gay
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I watched a bunch of ur vids and was about to subscribe then......this, smh
ROBOOT103 5 months ago
@ROBOOT103 Jay smooth meeting the criteria of a decent human being is too much for you? Yeah, I think you're the one missing the point.
midgysamurai15 3 months ago
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well hip hop is not about killin people at all that would be gangsta rap which is a form of rap music. Men do love men we love our fathers, friends, brothers, male cousins etc anything other than that i dont think we as men were designed to do. thas just my opinion
damiononupsal 6 months ago
I could just get high and sit on the bed and listen to you FOR HOURS!!!!! I love you!
janeblow80 6 months ago
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Hiphop used to be the one place where you didn't have to hear about all this gay shit.. guess that era's over.
RealCoolFreakinGuy 7 months ago
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Hip Hop also used to be a place where people cared more about lyricism, skill, and talent rather than who you slept with, but I guess that era's over, too. I mean, it's not like Mr. Cee ever did anything good in his career, and being homophobic is a really intelligent stance to take, right?
d0tax2 6 months ago 7
@d0tax2 I wanna give you a medal for that response
midgysamurai15 3 months ago
Outstanding!
unclekipper 7 months ago
"believing that killing a man makes us more of a man BUT loving a man makes us less less of a man" Brilliant that'll make the homphobes think
PimpMyParadigm 7 months ago 7
@PimpMyParadigm Actually no, there is a big different between loving a man and having buttsex with a man. Obviously, you need to think more. But sadly, you're too ignorant in your gay agenda to comprehend that.
orrie10 1 month ago
....i love you......you are hot! lolol MAN! you are REALLY something! Such Knowledge! We should have lunch! lol ....no, FO-REAL. lol msg me!
blktenorpower 7 months ago
People who spend all their time reaching for ever more far fetched excuses for their hate should not be argued with but pitied.
ajadefish 8 months ago 2
@ajadefish There is nothing to hate... we just have more standards and more human than you. We actually want this world to continue just like the way it used to be. Not go to hell
orrie10 1 month ago
"Nothin never soft, everything a violent song,
Kanye West, gay rapper that's when lines are drawn"
mnvinn 8 months ago
I just saw part of your video on the Rachel Maddow show tonight....love it....love you! So, I checked out the website she gave on her show.....great stuff....I am an instant fan. You're incredible! Thanks!
patricklr5150 8 months ago 20
Your awesomeness continues to amaze & delight me : )
2rural66 8 months ago
Just to add: Equally - homosexuals don't ELECT to be homosexual. Therefore, it happens in nature. If something happens in nature, it's natural. Have you intended to procreate every time you've had sex? I doubt it. Think of all the things we do, invent, create, consume, etc etc ad infinitum that weren't set out by nature. By treating illness, preventing violence and making items to reverse effects of eg weather, we 'go against' nature every day. Why limit this NATURE MUST REIGN bullshit to sex?
FifiCharlotte 9 months ago
@FifiCharlotte Don't worry, common sense will come to you very soon
orrie10 1 month ago
What I think is interesting about the 'anal sex is against nature' argument against homosexuality is that not only do these people frequently not take into account that over 60% of heterosexual practice it (and around a third of homosexuals don't), but that this 'things must be how ~nature~ intended em' mindset only seems to be applied to sex. You're sitting at a damn PC and probably wearing manmade fabrics. Diagnosed with cancer tomorrow? You'd get chemo. Is that how 'nature' intended it also?
FifiCharlotte 9 months ago
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FifiCharlotte 9 months ago
Faggot Bruce, what?
TrueTempleDog 9 months ago
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xshiznit101x 9 months ago
"It's probably time for us to reevaluate our criteria for manhood"
GOD I LOVE YOU
sublimesdolores 10 months ago 100
@sublimesdolores I said the same thing.
Existantia 3 months ago
You can tell when an individual's argument is failing when they decide to block you from replying. I find it unfortunate that despite the important message in this clip, that some of the viewers here are so willing to express their inability to accept and learn from their ignorance. I wish there were more well read people like illdoc1 in the world, it would make it a safer, healthier and more productive place to live in.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
Saying being gay is normal is like saying being retarded is normal.
Just because there's a certain small percentage of every generation that will have this flaw, doesn't mean it's normal. It's abnormal.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 Actually the LGBT community is normal- it's a large vibrant community which has done no harm to humanity in comparison to the damage religion/ racism or any other oppressive system has done. It is the type of oppression you exercise in your comment. Please get help, and get an education- it will help you in the long run.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 No, it's not. No matter how many times you repeat that it's normal won't change that. You know down deep it's not normal, too. Calling it normal is just pure PC denial and rationalization.
janderson2000 11 months ago
If you cant understand this then your lost bro. When we determine if a person is a criminal or not we use the law to judge, not the actual person. As is with morality if we are going to determine who is right and wrong we need an external standard to our beliefs to, and you dont have one! Science doesnt prove homosexuality is right or wrong it cant. Your an idiot dude because you cant wrap your head around these concepts. Get help from your partner maybe he can explain it to you
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Yeah,I'M an idiot.LMAO.
Science doesn't deal in right or wrong. I never said "wrong." I said not NORMAL,as in the terms of abnormal biology.
Science can certainly prove it is abnormal to have a sex drive that seeks to end your gene line by planting your seed into a mate that cannot "mate." Just as it's abnormal to want to fuck animals or children. None of them are suitable mates, so if your sexually attracted to them, you have a sex drive that is determined to end your gene line.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 what are you talking about bro I agree whole 100% I wasnt calling you an Idiot I was calling midgysamuri an idiot. I think Homosexuality is abnormal behaviour, which is what started this whole argument. The author of this video called it normal and I asked him in What context?? We are on the same side brother homosexuality is wrong
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Oh, ok. You must have hit "reply" on the wrong message (mine).I don't go into whether it's wrong, but I know it's a biological defect of nature. Just because there is a regular occurrence of it in the population doesn't make it normal. There's lots of birth defects that happen consistently in a small percentage of the population. That doesn't mean being born blind is "normal" as it is a serious detriment to survival.Being gay is serious detriment life's prime goal: reproduction.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 I agree with that, but I take it you must to some agree feel that its wrong, i mean the undertone of your argument suggest that you do. Either way you made some pretty good points, things that I can use. Thanks
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 I'm not religious, so don't usually think things are wrong that don't hurt people. My objection to homosexuality only really kicks in when they want to involve other people who have no choice: children. As in children being denied normal and natural mother and father pairings, and those using science and surrogate mothers to alter the very foundation of all life from the beginning of time. That's when and where it starts affecting other people's lives and overall society.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@Jpain720 The unfortunate thing that you established in all your statements was your inability to use the perspective of a philosophy of belief that was representative of people as a whole. You are basing moral, right and wrong on the same institution and figure head which justified institutions of oppression and dehumanisation. Your insult only proves what you hide behind and the veiled sexism displayed only shows the lacking of your knowledge. Please get help.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 Listen dude we can preach circles around you telling you that it is abnormal behaviour however if you insist that its normal that no only are you suffering from one disorder (homosexuality) your also suffereing from insanity, people who are insane dont know they are in sane, they believe abnormal is normal and you my friend fit that definition. Im not trying to be rude I just want to help you, thats all....
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janderson2000 11 months ago
we? lol I don't "preach" man... I'm an atheist... The kind that gay equality advocates hate, because they think we're automatically allies. I don't say being gay is morally wrong. I say it is an obvious biological defect and/or psychological disorder. I don't persecute people for being born with a birth defect, but I also don't pretend that it can't have serious effects on others if we pretend it's normal.
It's like if we said denying drivers' licenses to blind people was bigoted. LMAO
janderson2000 11 months ago
@Jpain720 So when in doubt, call upon mental illness and assume an individual's sexuality and background? Well done, you sure learnt a lot about your religion then for sure. Please, I am saying this as some one who has worked in this for many years, get yourself some help. This hatred is not good for you.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@janderson2000 Actually, deep down it is quite normal. Any educated person with an understanding of genetics and biology would tell you so. I guess it clearly establishes your level of education then doesn't it?
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 You're hysterical. My level of education is bachelors working on masters. The next stupid propaganda shit you're going to chime is homosexuality has the purpose of keeping the surplus population down.
Homosexuality WAS in the DSM as a mental illness as recently as the 60s. That is where it should have stayed. Just removing it from the book and forcing society to adapt to an OBVIOUS flaw doesn't change the facts that if everybody had it, the entire species would die
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 Wow you have yet again made some excellent points!!
Jpain720 11 months ago
@janderson2000 You do realise that homosexuality was removed from the DSM because it was proven to be very normal sexuality right? The people who shoved in to the DSM were the same people who thought hysteria was a real metal illness and considered Freud to 100% correct. Yes, but a bachelors going on to a masters in what? Biochemistry? Genetics? Psychology? Medicine? Biology?
We are continuously learning new things about our selves- science is in constant motion of understanding.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 So just because I can do crack does that mean I should do it. I mean maybe I like the way I feel when im high, and if I dont hurt anybody, and I still do my job the way it should be done should it still be illegal for me to do so? And why should it be illegal? cigarrettes kill more people a year than crack does and they are legal? So why not legalize crack also? I mean lets legalize everything, to each his own right, who cares if its abnormal every body should be happy right?
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Well, in the countries which do have more lenient drug use laws there has been a decline in drug use and drug addiction actually. Also, what have drugs got to do with consensual sex- it is quite worrying that you do not know the difference.
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@midgysamurai15 lol I'll answer you honestly and respectfully, but let me know if you're not a young gay male... Because that's my guess. I'm right, right?
janderson2000 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 lol yeah... A man sticking his penis into another man's ass is a vital biological function.
It's absolutely amazing how people can fool themselves into thinking a persistent defect is a normality.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 Human bonding and affection is quite a vital thing in human biology though, and to be quite honest, the load of nerves located in that area have been proven to provide mainly a sexual function. It's absolutely amazing how a person can completely disregard the rest of a previous response in an attempt to sound witty.
Please, go do a major in genetics/ biology/ psychology/ medicine and then dispute science.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 I disregard because it's just filled with stupidity, just like your most recent message. Ok, I'll respond. No, they did not believe Freud 100%, nor did they need to rely on Freud. Also, Hysteria is the early term for psychosomatic illness, which indeed exists. And, no, homosexuality was not removed from the DSM because the learned things they didn't know before. It was removed for political reasons and a relentless gay lobby. Lots of things happen for political reasons.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 "it was removed for political reasons" is the same excuse the CWA uses to justify their homophobia. Please clear up your understanding of the DSM and the APA before making unfounded statements. Also, hysteria was a term invented to justify the sexual suppression/ oppression of sexuality, which you would have known if you learnt the subject instead of ignoring facts.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 Calling ass sex between men normal male bonding is like calling a person giving a dog a blow job normal human/pet bonding. No part of the male anatomy is intended for a sexual purpose for another man. You're absurd. Sex has the goal of reproduction, so it would be ridiculous to say nature has some interest and engineering intended to bring men together in a futile perversion of its function. Science has not proven ANY purpose of homosexuality. It's a birth defect. Period.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 When did a dog come into this discussion? What is up with homophobes and their weird obsession with consensual human sex and bestiality? Please get help, there is a difference between the two. It's funny that you absolutely denied the question of your understanding of biology/ genetics/ psychology whilst making such daft statements. Science has proven plenty- please learn to study. If reproduction was our primary goal in sex, there would be no need for the sexual stimulus we have.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 You're too stupid to waste anymore time one. Enjoy your homophilia along with your pedophilia and zoophilia. They are all sexual disorders, and they all use the same arguments to promote their particular defect.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 Fine by me if you wish to hide your cowardice in your homophobia by using the whole "u r stoopid" stance. It only proves how little you know and how petty your excuse is for not being able to research. I wish you luck in your education, and maybe one day will learn about the difference between consensual sex and sexual disorders. It may help you in the long run in your own life.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
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@midgysamurai15 Consensual is irrelevant. Two gays can consent to eating each other's poop...That doesn't make it normal. You're so blind to your flawed logic. Everything you say is wrong...including using a made-up word for a made-up phobia. You are clearly gay so can't handle the fact that you have an abnormal and very broken sexual attraction.
janderson2000 11 months ago
@janderson2000 I find it amusing how you go back on your own words "You're too stupid to waste anymore time one" clearly there is inconsistency in your own stance that you have to rely on mere labelling to make a baseless claim. Please go educate yourself, for one thing the scat reference you make is actually rather high in heterosexual communities than in LGBT ones. Learn to research maybe? Considering that you were quick to deny bonding, I feel that consent is very relevant to the topic.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
@midgysamurai15 Actually, wrong.. scat is more active among homosexuals. Gay guys only have two options either blow jobs or anal sex. So the poop is most likely to come out ;P
orrie10 1 month ago
@midgysamurai15 Consexual sex/Sexual disorder, IT"S STILL THE SAME. I already did enough extensive research to know that it is a CHOICE, it is unsafe, and it really does goes against NATURE. You can try to find all the excuse in the world, you and I both know that it is WRONG WRONG WRONG.
orrie10 1 month ago
@janderson2000 us homosexuals are like germs: you say you hate them, but our culture needs a certain amount to stay afloat
RobStillLives 9 months ago
@RobStillLives Wrong, actually society doesn't need homosexuals to stay afloat. If the hippies weren't too butthurt to have a sexual revolution, USA today wouldn't be so relax in having sex and popping out babies. Abortion was another reason why people became so careless and started to have sex even more.
orrie10 1 month ago
if we cant come to agreements about where morality comes from then we have no need of arguing. I know morality comes from an external Source called God. If Right and Wrong didnt exist then every action/conduct would be reduced to a matter of opinion which is neutral. Right and wrong would be words with out meaning, but the fact that those words do exist must mean that an actual RIGHT and WRONG must exist. and it must be objective or else it would be right or wrong it would be an opinion
Jpain720 11 months ago
Okay im going to try this one more time then im done. 1) Im not a homophob, I dont hate homosexuals I just thing its wrong BIG DIFFERENCE. 2) I stated my reasons for why I think its wrong, 3) you keep focusing on irrelevant points. Who made you judge to decide that homosexuality is right/normal? According to whom? We have the mental capacity to understand things like consent, hence the difference? Thats really the best you can offer? Prove that scientifically
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Saying you're not a homophobe but then adding you think homosexuality is wrong sounds just as hypocritical as person who claims they are not a racist but believe people of colour are wrong. There is no difference, those are just excuse for your homophobia. Well who made you judge that being gay was wrong? If you trust the God you love so much, move on and let that judgement be on to him. It is also disturbing that you don't seem to understand the meaning of love and consent. Get help.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
Because I disagree with homosexuality im a homophob.. So because I disagree with illicit drug use that means I hate all drug users too right? Your an idiot dude. The laws of nature are always changing? when has gravity not worked? when has the earth stop spinning on its axis? When has the Sun not give light? When has 2+2 not equalled 4? Just because we FIND new things doesnt mean that the LAWS of nature are changing...
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Hahah, so when all else fails you rely on insult? Wow, Jesus must be proud of you. Homosexuality is a sexuality, it does not damage you unlike drug use and addiction. I think you need to re- learn a few things because you sound so misguided in your education. Have you ever learnt biology? Did a lesson or two in it? Biomedicine? Genetics? We are learning new things all the time about ourselves and the world around us. The natural world is in constant motion.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
Brother/Sister Lets clear this up. The question at hand is "Is homosexuality wrong". First of all you cant answer this with science because it deals with morality, the metaphyisical, not with science or the tangible. You cant scientifically prove homosexuality is morally right, no than you can prove morally wrongzoophilia is wrong. See above I wrote more
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 By all means justify your homophobia with a 2000 year old text book which was written in the one perspective, in a world very different to ours, which is also the same book used to oppress and promote sexism, racism and justify genocide. Our morals and ethics are intertwined with consent so unlike zoophilia which is to have sex with something which does not have the capacity to consent- homosexuality is not that. It has all been proven, you're just denying the reality- the facts.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
You cant use science to justify homosexuality by saying "that sexuality is bound withing our genetics" then crucify those who practice pedophilia and zoophilia, thats selective enforcment, however in your attempt to exclude them you then switch to the metaphysical and say "Its morally wrong" ..according to whom not science! Who made you judge? If you say its wrong because the majority agrees that its wrong, well millions disagree with homosexuality also? Your argument is sooo lame dude.
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Another fact one should mention is that the majority of pedophiles and zoophiles have been listed as heterosexuals, yet no one is holding some crusade against oppressing those who do identify as straight. Not that one should support such a motion either. Our psychology is genetic, humans have the mental capacity to understand the concept of consent. The abnormality is when you disregard/ ignore consent. I have not excluded anything, I have provided facts, which you ignore.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
I dont see people only as walking genitalia, however thier organs are part of their genetic make up, therefore it must be considered when evaluating their sexual preferences, whenever you abuse or make abnormal use of the bodys organs that its considered to be pathological. homosexuality is associated with so many other mental disorders? Depression, bulimia, Suicide, ect if homosexuality was perfactly okay it wouldnt have so many negative side affects, thats not what normal does, sorry
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720"Depression, bulimia, Suicide, ect if homosexuality was perfactly okay it wouldnt have so many negative side affects" again, look up the APA and learn to read some medical journals before you start lying about such serious mental illnesses. Those things affect heterosexuals too- so really your point is invalid. Did you ever consider that continuous condemnation of forcing someone into self hatred (like homophobia) could play a major factor here? Learn to research bub.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
I thank God for God, as in Jesus Christ. man is so twisted now a days that despite technology and science they still believe that the anal excretory canal is also the entrance for a penis. This subjective morality that you want to see displayed in society is in all reality chaotic, "do whatever makes you happy type thinking" when you try and turn immoral temporary pleasure into a permenant way of living, your left morally bankrupt and most of all unhappy. Youll soon figure that out.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 So the cat came out the bag, seriously, I feel so sorry for the Christians out there who actually do good things and never pass judgement on anyone- then to have people like yourself warping literature written 2000 years back to justify your own hatred. Jesus never asked for your hatred, I mean are you even aware of the fact that the good man hung out with those hated by society? Gave them love? It's moments like these where I feel sorry for Jesus, for having a shit fan base.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." That what the Bible says about homosexuality, thats not manipulating scritpure its telling it like it is, I dont hate homosexuals but what you do is still wrong. Sorry brother
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 You also do realise that the bible was written two thousand years ago with the expectation of denying the years of philosophical work established before that right? You do realise that not everyone follows the bible or believes in a God? And for those who are educated enough to read the bible, they read in context to their times and with an understanding of the history of biblical times. I also find it very sexist that you would assume that I am a man. Homophobia is not healthy.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
LIsten we are arguing about 8 different points here, so lets take this point at a time. 1) I dont hate anybody, however I strongly disagree with homosexuality, as I disagree with other psychological disorders such as pedophilia or zoophilia. 2) The Bible was inspired by God who transends time, and the morality therein is objective therefore time isnt a problem and it never will be because His word transcends time and whatever is objective is uninfluienced by outside opinion. See above.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 The DSM removed homosexuality from the list of disorders back in the 1970's when they realised that it was only listed as an illness due to the puritanical practitioners at the time. You are failing to understand that zoophilia and pedophilia is the act of having sex with someone or something which does not have the capacity to accept. Homosexuality is just a sexuality. The world isn't run by the bible, nor is it the only representation of what people assumed to believe was God.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
Now if you try to involve science to establish moral objectives as it pertains to sexual behaviours, (which is what you are trying to do) science then could only come to one conclusion and is all sex that is not procreative in nature is unnatural. Nonprocreative sex serves absolutely no purpose to the individual human or the human race, scientifically speaking that is. Now, you can justify it a million and one ways, but you cant use science to say homosexuality is right.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Again, science would prove you wrong there because if human sexuality was purely concerned with procreation, there would be no meaning or no use to the nerves in those areas which stimulate the pleasure we get. Not all sex is reproductive, because not everyone can reproduce. On top of that, humans have been given the mental capacity (like other animals) to adopt and build families that go beyond mere blood relation. Our sexuality is bound within our genetics. Scientifically proven :)
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
Dude, do you lack the capacity to reason? You cant be subjectively right, if morality wasnt objective then "right" and "wrong" would be words with no meaning. EVERYTHING would be reduced to a matter of OPINION which is NEUTRAL. You cant have your cake and eat it too. On the one hand you say our sexuality is bound within our genetics, if that is the case then pedophilia and zoophilia should be a crime because it is NATURAL. Read above.
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 The whole point about having cake is to eat it- I really don't know how you go about in this world with that level of homophobia and ignorance about issues like genetics and consent, but it really looks like you need an education and some guidance of your own. Of course our sexuality is bound within our genetics, and so is our psychology. As stated over and over again, we have the mental and psychological capacity to understand things like consent- hence the difference.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
You have nothing to stand on so your mixing "science" with weak morality to justifiy an obvious wrong. The least I ask is that you be objective in this discussion. How do you determine right and wrong? Riddle me this, how do you establish Morals are? Its probably based on little reason and much emotion, in which case..... hahaha alright dude, Im done. Later bro
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Facts that can be representative of any individual in any circumstance compared to the teachings of religious material which is not representative of anyone? I'm sorry, but I am not the one hiding behind God, justifying homophobia. I also find it amusing that mid way through your half assed explanation, you back out like a coward and failed to provide and stable fact that disproves the normalcy of homosexuality. It is clear that you need to educate yourself more, please get help.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
Listen Nature is regulated by rules, they are called the "laws of nature", these laws dictate who nature behaves .. like gravity for instance, or math, or the speed of light. These things are stable and unchanging. Now if the Nature has LAWS then that would indicate a LAW MAKER, His name is God he also gave man a MORAL LAW that should dictate our behaviour its called the BIBLE. This is why I think homosexuality is wrong, not because I said so, rather because the LAW MAKER (God) said so.
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 The natural world is so diverse and unpredictable hence the continuous study into it. The rules are constantly changing because there is always something new to learn. The God you worship, nor the book you read would really count as a good stand point for right and wrong, considering that in the bible God has killed way more people unjustly than Satan has. Also, you are forgetting that God didn't write the bible. People did thousands of years ago.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
I understand love quite clearly Jesus gave his life for me, to save me from my sin and im happy for that. He also gave his life for you too, and for the murderer and the child molester, and for the rapist. So yeah I understand love but i also understand the difference between right and wrong, And I know that when we choose to to do that, human relations are destroyed. Homosexuality tears the social and moral fabric of mankind. And if you want to contribute to that, well be my guest, later.
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 You've mentioned exiting out of this discussion a few times but even then you fail at the honesty of your own words. Again, the problem is that you are forcing an ideology which is not representative of the world (and has discrimination within it's own) on to universal civil issues. Historically speaking, it is oppression and discrimination which breaks a society down. Not love. Not self acceptance and respect. Please seek help and fix up your insecurities, this hatred is not healthy.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
I wasnt insulting you when i called you an idiot, i was simply stating a fact. Because the world is in motion doesnt mean that the laws of nature are changing. Bro the overwhelming majority of america and the rest of the world disagrees with homosexuality, so in this aspect you and your misguided friends are the minority. Butthole sex is very damaging, but if your dying to tune a meat whistle then hay go ahead I just wanted to warn you that its not the way to go.
Jpain720 11 months ago
@Jpain720 Actually, you were. It is mighty petty of you to hide now especially since you've been using God all this time to justify your null excuses for homophobia. Any educated individual working in the field of genetics, biology and over all natural sciences will prove you wrong- your failure is your denial and that is due to your lack of education. Please get help- your homophobia is damaging to humanity.
midgysamurai15 11 months ago
Listen im not hiding from you nor am I hiding behind God. Gods word is Gods word and I believe in it. We can argue circles around each other and it isnt going to change how I feel or how you feel. This is why in the beginning I wanted to establish how YOU determined morality.
Jpain720 11 months ago
You do realise that google does show some rather inaccurate information? Check up the APA or google scholar or any other medical journal with proper qualifications and they will all say that any unprotected sexual activity will lead to some damage to the body. This is not exclusive to homosexuality- anal is quite popular amongst heteros too. Also, why are you comparing consensual sex to acts of violence and violation of consent? There is a severe difference.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
You asked me why am I comparing consensual sex to acts of violence... NO SIR Please get it right, I said Morality is OBJECTIVE, YOU my friend said morality is SUBJECTIVE, and I told you plain and clear that if you hold those convictions to be true, then you cant not call the murderer, rapist, or pedophile" immoral". How could you? Morality is subective right, no? Subjective-existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought. Another definition for you.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Wow, you forget your posts quite quickly, you were comparing consensual sex to acts of violence- don't hide form it now. Morals are subjective because of the ideologies we all as individuals follow- ethics however is objective and objectively speaking, homosexual is quite natural and common. Not only in the natural world, but in the human world. Don't you get tired of being homophobic, it's not a very healthy state of mind.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
What?? Morals are subjective however Ethics are objective?!? they are synonyms dude! " I may be dum, but at least im not dum" durrrrr. Listen bro, the U.S. Government found a way to justify 450 yrs of slavery, the Spanish manipulated scripture to justify the conquisition, and now your manipulating science to justify homosexuality. At the end of the day the truth remains, a penis wasnt made for a penis/anus nor a vagina for a vagina. no matter how much you want you cant change that fact.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Actually, the whole idea of ethics was that unlike morals, which are predominantly religious/ political based is that ethics can be used universally in all context. I find it quite unfortunate for your case that you break the loving relationships down to the mere genitals of an individual, I worry that it's quite likely that you treat people on such a petty basis as well. Slavery is an oppressive institution, sexuality is about identity/relationships/love. Learnt the difference.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
@Jpain720 also there is no truth to what you are saying because it appears like homosexuals regardless of your misconceptions of them have managed fight against what ever bullshit history has thrown their way, like those who are oppressed by racism. Sexuality transcends genitalia, now you may personally view a woman as a walking vagina, but to someone else- they see a whole person. This is applicable to anyone who respects their own, and another's sexuality.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
Another strong indicator that homosexuality is wrong is that, the fact that it has been around for thousands of years and its still socially unacceptable!! People from all ages from every clime and place inherently know that its wrong. Its not some wild idea created by conservitists rather is a belief held WORLDWIDE! Your just in denial about it, which I understand because denial is a unconcious defense mecanism, therefore those who are in denail dont know they are in denial...
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Again, null. Before the Abrahamic faiths took an oppressive role in our history, homosexuality was viewed as quite a normal thing. Great philosophers thousands of years ago found no harm in human sexuality, but found harm in the puritanical hatred wielded towards the understanding of sexuality. It's always been the case that the most learned of people know the value and importance of acceptance and the detriment in the nature of unfounded hatred. A hatred you demonstrate well. Get help
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
Not only did those cultures practice homosexuality but also, they sacrificed babies, pedophilia, and beastality was common practice also. Not to mention those greek philosophers that you so believe also thought that the world was flat, and held up on the backs of elephants. Polygamy was standard in that time and females were almost always considered second class citizens??? So you want to use these type of societies to justify the normalcy of homosexuality? Okay have it your way...
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Dude, are you aware that Abrahamic faiths also had the same hand in the similar destruction of society? And in all honesty is was those same Abrahamic followers that practiced similar forms of brutality (The Crusades? Witch hunts? On going child abuse with in the churches? the list goes on). Also, why Greek? Are you so blinded by the world that you simply ignore Eastern history? And here you are crying about racism...
Please, fix up your homophobia, it is not a healthy state of mind.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
So your slaming abraham then your giving props to Jesus Christ?? Jesus Christ said " I am the seed of Abraham"?!?! in Other words hes abrahams desendent, secondly if your talking about islam I dont know, I dont deal with their faith. Thirdly, you cant blame the faith of Abraham Judeo-christianity for vile acts caused by wild people. Do you know how many times you have contradicted yourself over the coarse of this conversation? not to mention focusing on irrelevant truths to side step the truth.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Abrahamic- this covers the three dominant faiths to come out of that. Also, you did start the side stepping a few comments ago when i responded to your null claims about homosexuality causing eating disorders and falsely associating consensual relationships with oppressive systems and acts of violence. It's funny how you are defending something as widely misinterpreted as religion to something so innate as sexuality. You also seem to hide behind God when it comes to hatred.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
3) homosexuality is associated with a host of mental disorders and more prone to STDs, thats fact if you want the website I can give it to you, now that DOESNT deny the fact that those "other " disorders arent experiences by heterosexuals or that those other disorders are homosexual specific, im just simply stating the fact that there exists a strong correlation. Did I miss something? Soo which one of these point do you want me to destroy you on first?
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 The reason why there is a possible link between the two is due to the puritanical nature that still resonates with the illiterate of our society. This was studied extensively by well renowned medical practitioners and the APA. You tell a person enough times that they are an abomination and are not deserving of equal rights and you are bound to breed an environment of self loathing. These same disorders are prevalent in racial minorities too for those same reasons. You missed plenty.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
Being gay is normal? Seriously dude, its normal in what context? In the mind of a pedophile raping 5 yr old boys is normal? So first how do you define what normal is,and secondly if your normal is based on subjective morality then you cant call the pedophile or rapist or murderer immoral, how could you? You make good videos but this one fails. and Gay is wrong people, just because you can do soemthing doesnt mean you should. If thats your mindset then legalize Crack..
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 You could take a lesson on the whole "loving a man" business. Is it just me or are homophobes so lazy that in order to make a weak point you deliberately allude a consensual relationship to pedophilia? Homosexuality is a sexuality, it's been around long enough to prove it's normalcy and it's high time we accepted it as a fact and moved on as a species. How about you go make a valid complaint about say... the ever increasing nature amount of people who hide behind God to justify hate?
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
"Homosexuality is a sexuality, it's been around long enough to prove it's normalcy" Seriously okay I got one.....RACISM!!, its been around for quite some time, and murder, and of coarse your favorite pedophilia. So we should accept these things as a fact and move on as a species also right? Those people have a right to express themselves?? Do they not? That argument was a genetical fallacy, and calling it whimsical would actually be a compliment. Homosexuality is morally wrong, end of story.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Difference is that racism is system built upon oppressing those who are different from the "superior". Pedophilia is the action of having sex with a minor who does not have the capacity to consent. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality is just a sexuality. There is no default to it, there is nothing special about it, it's just how one individual's sexuality will differ from another. I seriously wonder about the morals you run by if you can justify homophobia, yet oppose racism. Get help.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
So basically your saying just because you consent to something means its okay to do it? Is that how we determine morality? What about self mutilators or those who use illicit drugs? are they hurting you if they do these things in the privacy of their own homes does it affect you? No, but its still wrong, Morality is objective, its has little to do with empathy and nothing to do with opinion. If homosexuality was okay the human body/nature woudl have been designed for it!
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 There are many scientists and doctors around the world who'd be happy enough to point out that our bodies are designed for the sexualities we come with, because as we all know- sexuality is innate. Point: Self harmers and drug abusers are damaging themselves since they are destructive actions. Having a safe, consensual relationship with another person it not damaging in anyway- except for homophobes like yourself. Then again, it's not really your business. Also, morality is subjective.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
what scientists are you referring to? Anal sex is very damaging its actually for that reason AIDS is so rampant in the homosexualy comunities, a simply google search can prove that. By the way if you believe morality is subjective then you have no right to tell the murderer, rapist, or pedophile that they are "immoral"... How could you morality is subjective. Sex is primarily used for reproduction, which cannot happen within a homosexual relationship, its UNNATURAL.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 how do you define unnatural? Are you saying that men and women who are infertile should not be allowed to continue with happy loving relationships due to their inability to bear a child?It takes more than just a working reproductive system to raise a family- just look at the number of children who are pushed in to foster care and adoption. In the natural world, there are thousands of animals and plants who can prove you wrong so that argument is a fail too. Seriously, get help.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
Okay im going to give you some basic definitions and lets see if you have to common sense to discern what im saying. 1 Anus-the EXcretory opening at the end of the alimentary canal. 2.Unnatural-contrary to the laws or course of nature. So if you take a penis and stick it in a mans Anus, then obviously your acting contrary to the course of nature because its an excretory organ. Thats science no matter how you want to manipulate it to justify your own defensive ways of thinking.
Jpain720 1 year ago
@Jpain720 Dude, that has been taken straight out of conservapedia and whazoo pseudo scientists whom the CWA go crying to when a minority group gets their rights. I should also like to state that any health practitioner will tell you that your should protect yourself before having sex- applicable to all orifices. As for nature? Ok, so are you stating that the presence of sensory nerves which do stimulate pleasure are the result of some alternate being's dirty work? Your homophobia is sad, man.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
I'm so happy I came across your vlog- you have plenty of wisdom and God bless you for sharing it.
midgysamurai15 1 year ago
I saw this book in a used book store the other day and picked it up! I've read the first few chapters and is pretty good so far. Thanks for the recommendation! You should start posting videos again soon!
jbschott3 1 year ago
Being extremely tall is bad.
rhkingpin 1 year ago
EMB801211 -You are a sad, sick person. I feel sorry for you.
ERubyV9 1 year ago
yo yo IM THE GAY RAPPER DAWG
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I swallow more balls than Super Pac-Man, I used to be a crack man now im a butt crack man, When i go to jail i back that thing up man, Im rollin and cornholin = your gay cousins bac end, slob on my knob if you got a moustache, I destroy and crush ass with my powerful thrusts fag
MrMandingus 1 year ago
I SO DISAGREE!
lenabina86 1 year ago
Being gay is not normal, only liberals try and make it normal. In fact less than 5% of the worlds population is gay. If being gay was normal don't you think they would be able to procreate. If being gay was normal then gays wouldn't gets AIDS more than straight people. Gays make up all over 65% of all aids cases. The other Aids cases are IV drug users and people that sleep around with multiple partners and bi partners. Being gay is not normal. Just like killing is not normal but it happens
EMB801211 1 year ago
@EMB801211 if AIDS is a gay disease obtained on a "morality" basis, where do lesbians fit in? are gay women more "moral" than gay men, or just cuter?
rosebudIII 1 year ago
@rosebudIII I don't know that reason just saying homosexuals make up 66% of all AIDS cases. You can take from that what you want too. Lesibians only make up about 10%. IV drug users make up about 12%. The rest are people who have had sex with a bisexual and sleep around with multiple partners. AIDS is not a disease its a punishment. MAybe God is trying to tell all people to change their ways. No one is perfect but you have to try and follow the bible as best you can and learn from mistakes
EMB801211 1 year ago
@EMB801211 God will have something to say to you when you reach those Pearly Gates, but it's not going to be the praise you seem to expect. Do everyone a favour and learn to treat other human beings -even the gay ones -with the respect they deserve. I don't know where in your as you pulled those numbers from, but they're wrong. For the record, the largest growing group of people who contract HIV are straight people.
ERubyV9 1 year ago
@ERubyV9 bs show me the proof. I went to a gay pride affilated website jackass
EMB801211 1 year ago
@EMB801211 You're equating "not normal" with "bad", which is a mistake that only the profoundly ignorant could make. Being left handed is not normal. Being black is not normal. Being a red head is not normal. Being extremely tall is not normal. Having green eyes is not normal. Being highly intelligent is not normal. Being unusual is not bad.
For the record, worldwide straight people are more likely to contract HIV than gay people, and gay people do procreate.
ERubyV9 1 year ago
@ERubyV9 there are more left handed people than there are gays in thw world. guess what you can choose which had to write with too jackass. being black is normal as being white. In the world blacks and whites are rqually represented about 15-20% . And no gays can not procreate jackass unless they have sex with the opposite sex then they aren't gay. keep yur usless arguements coming. i'll win everytime
EMB801211 1 year ago
@ERubyV9 You jut prove how dumb Canadians are!!! Thanks go listen to Drake and shut up.
EMB801211 1 year ago
@ERubyV9 I think sticking a cock up your ass and down your throat is really bad. What say you????????
P.s How have I disrepected gay people??? Because i don't agree with them. I dont condone violence or hatred towards gays just don't agree wit their lifestyle. Sounds like you might be gay, hope you seek foregiveness from God and repent.
EMB801211 1 year ago
@EMB801211 Sorry to inform you you, but plenty of heterosexuals have oral and anal sex. Those things are not actually exclusive to gay men. Hell, some heterosexual men enjoy an act called 'pegging.' I don't suggest you Google it, as it may offend you - just use your imagination. :)
I hope I haven't traumatically shattered your extremely sheltered worldview.
ryuuseicha 1 year ago
@ryuuseicha So now everyone on youtube knows you like taking it up the ass, thats called TMI !!!!! Not a picture I wanna see. Two people from the same sex weren't meant to have sex together its unnatural and sick. Plain and simple!!! But to each his own just keep it in the bedroom. I don't care if your gay I just don't want it pushed in my face. A persons sex life should stay in the bedroom. end of story!!! I don't care if your straight or gay its no ones business unless you make it someones!
EMB801211 1 year ago
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@EMB801211 I love the hypocrisy of homophobes. In the same post, you managed to pass and incredibly offensive moral judgement on homosexuality, then beg indifference: "But to each his own just keep it in the bedroom."
So, it's wrong, offensive, and disgusting... but you don't care, so long as it stays "in the bedroom"?
RedAthena1919 1 year ago
@EMB801211 Let me ask you something, EMB: Do you disagree with the lifestyles of people who have non-white skin?
livewithrespect 1 year ago
you sir, are freaking awesome. your levels of intelligence and mastery of language are a breath of fresh air in this world. George Carlin would have been proud of hearing you precision laser like focus in these.
frankenleg 1 year ago
Oh god, why are you so smart??
weaselvulture 1 year ago
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@weaselvulture because you are so dumb
janderson2000 11 months ago
*applauds*
birdinfight 1 year ago
As much misogyny is interlaced in hip hop, I'm not surprise it's rife with women-hating men.
filmtress 1 year ago
@filmtress Just because gay men aren't sexually attracted to women doesn't mean that they hate women.
bbbnnnlll 1 year ago 18
i like this guy.. he knows what he's talkin about. and seem like a pretty cool dude
anytingbu 1 year ago
I WONDER IF THEY'LL EVER TALK ABOUT THE GAY ROCKERS AND GOTH PEOPLE??????????
mnlkthms 1 year ago
@mnlkthms
no because his blogs are hip hop based...rock and goth obviously has no cares in the gay issue. there was a time when guys looking like girls was the IN thing in rock..and rockers and goths still wear make up and no one in there community says anything...if a rapper did Any of those things they would be shunned by there whole community
anytingbu 1 year ago
@mrjamesb56 re: "Tell you what, the next time We get hit with a terrorist attack that kills 3000 and requires action on foreign soil , I'll let You & illdoc1 Handle it." That is bigoted, meaning you assume a gay person couldn't do a good job. I want the best qualified translators, and the best foreign policy insiders on the case. Regardless of sexual orientation. Also, I don't care to take what the Taliban does to gays as a political cue. We're supossed to be the the good guys, remember?
gholwiih 1 year ago
That last sentence was Just ...Wow.
Tilyard123456 1 year ago
I have to subscribe due to the fact your on my level of thinking.
Your smarter than me but the things you say are like lessons.
Tilyard123456 1 year ago
We as men need to re-examine and re-define "What is A Man". If you believe having no job (or any interest in getting one), robbing and stealing from others, spending time in jail, beating up your wife, not taking care of your children, labeling yourself a "thug" and ending disputes with a gun, hating anyone and everyone who isn't exactly like you-- is "manly" you are wrong. We as men need to "MAN-UP" and become real men as role models to our wives, children and community. Much Respect.
UpNurMind 1 year ago 2
When we find ourselves believing that killing a man makes us more of a man and loving a man makes us less of a man. It's probably time to reexamine our criteria for manhood
copied to my facebook status
yosiberman 1 year ago 7
Why do people hate and miss use "gay"
michaelRedd22fan 1 year ago
@michaelRedd22fan because of fear
CottnCandyRainbow 1 year ago
Being Gay is 8% of the Population ,So it's Not Normal ...Normal is being a Heterosexual ...not Homo...
mrjamesb56 1 year ago
@mrjamesb56 so i guess being black or any other minority is not normal, since you know there are only like what 12%
johnosahon 1 year ago