I think once i heard that the reason you couldn't see stars while on the moon was because the moon itself is too reflective and washes out small points of light like that of stars. Don't know if it's true but that's one explanation i heard a few years ago.
I am going to say this only once. The capsule was filled with 100% Oxygen rather than a normal air mixture of Nitrogen (~78%), Oxygen (~21%), and small amounts of Argon & Carbon Dioxide, and other trace gases. The capsule is filled with unshielded electrical wiring and switches. Even a diminutive spark in 100% O2 ignites. Why would people who could lauch into orbit not think that a spark could ignite 100% O2. Why didn't Gus, Ed, and Roger think of this either? This tells HOW, but not WHY.
alright, @Fate264 and @SpreadingtheMuse - i don't usually write back when people disagree with me, because i don't think it's worth it. but all i'm going to say is, i'll think how i think and you think how you think. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, last time i checked it's a free country right? and just a little FF fun fact, NASA isn't part of the United States government.... Google it.
@emjma1002 Actually, I've never seen ANY "hoax" evidence that wasnt solely the fault of idiots not knowing what they were talking about. Theres nothing you can mention which isnt scientifically incompetent.
part of the paid debunkers agenda is to be the last comment and to create arguments so that people who know the mL was fake as shit, dont get the reach around. Thyre scum of the earth nazi nasa demons. EVERYTHING about the ML is fake, not just some of it, thats why everything can be debunked. Its not that far away and we would go back. Mars is also a fake fukn money machine, I doubt that star wars even exists, they did ALL of that to TAKE the noney.
That thicky Ron Baron, parking his car on a railroad! Obviously not THAT intelligent! Honestly: if you're THAT careless, you deserve to be murd, er, I mean hit by a bloody train!
no one has ever been to moon, the evidence proofs it. in the NASA videos the surface is dusty, but everybody knows moon is cheese and cheese is not dusty
@Ewuliina Yah, go outside at night on a clear day and look up. What do you see? Little, bright dots, called stars. Now imagine acually BEING in outter space, would'nt you see billions of stars?
it's an obvious hoax, we can see the moon's surface with many powerful telescopes that can see the birth of stars, yet can't see the fucking surface of the nearest satellite...the MOON? bullshit, the Japanese and others have stated they've looked at the moon surface and there isn't shit there, no US flag NOTHING.
@XenoType008 Uhm, you do know that the Lunar Lander and other man made objects ARE visible? You can even see the footprints taken from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
You're obviously misinformed, because the Japanese did see landing sites with their lunar orbiter. Also, the USSR tracked Apollo missions to the moon. You also may like to know Australia provided the radio telescope and personnel to carry transmissions from astronauts on the moon.
Independent confirmation from foreign countries--in the case of the USSR, an arch rival of the US during the Cold War. No hoax.
@ThePadoooo "payed" is the invention of ANOTHER flying guess tard conspiracy. Using retarded conspiracy #2 as you "proof" of retarded conspiracy #1 only proves how desperately stupids your evidence is for BOTH. Just making up your story as you go.
no way! they basically murdered the austronauts! they led them to their own death and were literally blown and burned to death, humanity is just a race waiting to be killed by our very own hands if we dont stop. i am ashamed and apalled by this!!! >_>
@thewho186 i'm not sure what u mean by autobots (transformers are u serious u stupid fuck), but they realized that is it way to expensive to do manned expedition to anywhere in the space. Robots are being sent to different planets and it should not be that hard to understand...
@lostorb12 NASA ARE LIARS AND YOU'RE BUYING IT, YOU'RE THE STUPID FUCK. IF NASA SAID THEY WENT TO THE SUN I'M SURE YOU WILL BELIEVE THEM BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO THINK FOR YOUR SELF, AND THAT'S A STUPID FUCK. HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR VIDEO IT'S LIKE 70'S SPACE MOVIES, IT'S UNREALISTIC
@KMPaz4op flag flopping on the moon is enough evidence for me cause their is no air on the moon even if u got a fan or any air source u still wont be able to generate air on the moon unless if ur wearing a mask
@TheEgyptianOne I been living on Earth for a long time, and I have never seen a flag flap like that. By the way the Earth has an atmosphere, so if that was on Earth then it would flap like they do on Earth. That wasn't flapping, that was swinging like a pendulum unimpeded by air, therefore there was no air.
@TheEgyptianOne have u seen the mythbuster episode on the moon landing? They proved that the flag could move without any air or wind because of the momentum when they put it in. I don't believe in moon landing but it is possible for the flag to move like that. Btw, There, look it up, learn how to use it.
With all the evidence in favour of the Apollo program, you really have to be a stupid person to believe it was faked. It's always funny to see how the hoaxers never possess ANY understanding for even the simplest of physical concepts, yet they "know" better than every scientist on the planet. Laugh or cry? Undecided...
@Spindry96 not everyone who believes the moon landing is fake thinks all major things that happen are a hoax so stop being so ignorant. People are entitled to their opinion even it is different from yours. So grow up, stop with stupid idiotic statements
The moonlanding is NOT a fucking "opinion." Its fact. Its either a fact that we went or its a fact that we didnt. We cant both be right. Therefore the idiots dumb enough to believe the hoax with the retarded evidence that any 9th grader could refute have no cause to complain about being laughed at.
@Chev4206 I'm here to remind everyone that getting their science Apollo education from a 19 year old mcjob is a really retarded thing to do ;)
SOME of us actually work in technical jobs for a living, and get to look down on all the newbs who cut and paste "FAKE!" pretending to be an expert. Like you ;)
Hoaxters - you are a bunch of morons. Go look at the LRO photo's (not that I need any evidence at all). Pure logic and reasoning is all you really need.
But I guarantee that when the next Lunar trip is made (China?), if they walk up and take PHOTO's of any of the other 6 Apollo artifacts, the hoaxters will say that is faked too, or perhaps even that THAT trip is being faked in the same mysterious NASA buildings
@myrtlebox ...I am more exited then anyone else to see the China Ants do a better job, they are way more capable of doing things right, and Yes, depending on their pics we would all know if The USA/NASA were as good faking something in the 70th has they were in 9/11.
China? China is fucking up low Earth orbit badly with debris and is using stolen technology to get its space 'program' running.
The US landed astronauts on the moon. The USSR, its Cold War enemy--ENEMY--confirmed the landings using its own ability to track spacecraft. Why would the Soviets confirm their enemy's achievement?
The landings on the moon happened; six times and twelve men.
Stop spouting this hoax nonsense and learn at least SOME science, engineering, and history.
re: the fire. I love it how people that weren't even there can claim to know it was intentional. If they can't even say who did it, how can they say it was intentional? No proof whatsoever. Also at 4:10 how can being struck by a train be NASA's fault rofl Space expolaration and rocket work is extremely dangerous but their have been 1000 times more deaths from mining, so why does no one claim a mining company conspiracy theory??
this part of the feature is purely speculatory, and circumstantial. Not actual proof, hence it's not viable in any court of law, however many of the previous evidence presented (film & pictures of the surface of the moon +moon landing) is quite strong, and hold weight.
9-11 was clearly an inside job by the bushies and an uncontrollable secret government, as proven by building 7 and it's implosion. The fox news sheep buy the 9-11 crap like it's gospel. But when tin foil hat crap like the moon landing being faked is presented by the fox fake news channel, you sheep eat it up. The moon rocks prove we went there, you can not get around that. Steel bldgs falling into dust? can't happen.
@TheAppleShampoo182 We brought back rocks from the surface of the moon and gave some to countrys and universitys around the world. proof we went to the moon. Fox chanel keeps spouting this bullshit that the moon landings were faked. Yet an obvious fake like the wtc bldg 7 is ignored or laughed at by the foxian and msm types. pay attention, there will be a test latter.
@TheAppleShampoo182 Dude, you're hilarious. It's the rocks from the moon that prove we went there, not the bullshit internet crap that we didn''t. You can't fake the rocks and dust from the moon because every scientific academy from every major country got some as well as universities around the world. If the USA would have faked them we would have been called on it immediately. We not only walked on the moon bro, but wrap your head around this, we took a car up there and drove on it. LOL.
@pupilofreality are u talking about the so called moons that usa government gave to several countries saying they went to the moon?.well i have bad news for u.those rocks have been proved that r from arizona desert.so that cancels ur saying about those rocks that prove that moon landing.actually those rocks proved that moon landing was a HOAX.(long live......moon....of arizona....stones.lol)
Is "could of" a techincal term? Can you explain "could of?" What science languange is that? ;)
Maybe also explain that why even though the moonrocks were given away to 150+ foreign countries, not ONE of them were able to see the "could of" forgery.
technically less than 25 ppl would need to know if they were faking it. everyone else could be conned like everyone else. not saying we did, not saying we didnt - just an observation. Basically the astronauts, a few controllers, and a few media fakers would be all that was needed to pull it off.
plus theres that whole factor involving the gov lying about just about everything to us since the 50s - it could be possible either way.
I dont see logically at all how you could pull off a "fake" with only "a few controllers," and say you'd need HUNDREDS no matter if it was fake or real. But its telling that the only people who say "a few" are the hoax pushers, making a convenient assumption to avoid an inconvenient question they dont have an answer for.
And "lying since 50's" is ridiculously generalist. You're not allowed convenient assumptions just to make your story feel better.
Clumsy joker Obama clearly implies the supposed authenticity of the moonlanding is an issue that doesn't matter..which is understandable since he knows it was a hoax. You may ask "Is this another B.Clinton like attempt of play down the significance of the Moon Hoax of 1969-1972 and try soften the impact ,the International embarrassment ,and the crimes associated with it?"
"I don't know the distance to the van Allen radiation belts".
Apollo actor-astronaut E.Cernan
"I don't think we went far out to encounter the radiation belts maybe we did"
Apollo wired-astronaut A.Bean.
These two funny crooks thanks to the criminal American regime enjoy freedom when in Europe we would had them hanged upside down and throw tomatoes to them.
This is completely ridiculous... those 15 Astronauts that died, died honorably doing what only they were capable of, flying aircraft at the edge of their limits without modern computers to do the job for them.
Also the types on radiation in SPACE is NOT anything like X Ray radiation, NOR the kind of radiation that killed the Japanese after Hiroshima.
Put down the act and deal with WHOLE facts, not these half truths that encourage widespread stupidity.
One of the best supporting arguments against the hoax is it was all faked so accurately they may have just as well gone ahead and did it. There were 10 years of preparation in the Mercury, Gemini and first 4 Apollo flights. They employed 400,000 American engineers. They created all the right technology to go and then didn't? Then they employed scientists to make sure all the moon surface photography looked correct showing no stars, etc. It's obvious it couldn't have been faked so well.
The hoaxers ask where the $24 billion cost of Apollo went (not really a lot of money) and imply that 400,000 workers were paid off to keep them quiet. A measly $60,000 each to shut up for 40 years? That doesn't make sense.
The promotion of this hoax nonsense has to stop. The stupidity really is taking over.
@MadHighway LOL!! nothing funnier then upsetting patriotic people!! LOL!! SIX TIMES ON THE MOON!! AND NEVER GOT BETTER PICS THEN THIS CRAP?!! Sorry, till they show something better it is a hoax....
@adrianaveliz WTF do you expect with 1972 video quality? Since thats the best ignorance hoax believers have to offer, the landings were real til you get something better.
@adrianaveliz There are hundreds of pics with VERY GOOD quality from the 6 lunar landings. The videos are of course of lesser quality, since they didn't bring any studio quality cameras to Moon. They were to heavy and the signals bandwidth didn't allow broadcast quality signals to be transmitted.
So, Your comment about "crap pictures" is laughable ignorant!
Don't bother with her--she's a mouthy young chick who thinks she's smarter than scientists and engineers. She's also an anti-American and probably lacking in education in sciences, so doubly ignorant.
You can't educate these people--they're not smart enough to understand they're not smart.
I'm not an American, you dumbass. The moon landings took place 40 years ago--there were no digital cameras back then. Movie cameras taken to the moon 1969-72 were not the quality of today, but the still pictures are of fantastic quality. Shut up and do your research. NOW.
Sorry--don't EVER think you're smarter than the scientists and engineeers who made Apollo possible. Because you don't know what you're talking about.
@MadHighway JAJAJAJA LOOK AT YOU!! I didn't know I have the power to piss you off like a toddler jajajajaja...I am so amazing!! and more because anyone who send any insults to my wonderful self it is cursing itself 10 times, so be careful with your words...everything you say to me turns right back at you IN A BIG SCALE!!
You're an ignorant and stupid person, and like all other hoax proponents, you aren't smart enough to know that you're ignorant of science and engineering.
Get back to school and learn science and engineering. Don't be a stupid follower of stupid Youtube conspiracists who lack in education and put forth misbegotten nonsense.
You don't know what you're talking about and it shows how ignorant you are.
I have an education and I understand science and engineering principles, and I know how Apollo was a success.
You and your kind don't. You're ignorant, you do not understand science, and you think you're smarter than the people involved in making Apollo happen.
Go on--tell us about your education. Tell us about what qualifies you to call the Apollo program a hoax and accuse NASA of murdering its own employees. Tell us why we should think you're smart.
@adrianaveliz Well, what about those "crappy pictures"? Do You know the difference between "digital" and "analouge"? Do You know the word "bandwidth? Do You know the difference between a "TV-camera" and a"16 mm movie camera"? Do You know ANYTHING about photography and spacetravel?
We went "back" FIVE TIMES. So how many does it take?
Going to the moon was one goal, THEN we wanted to do others: 6 shuttles, 2 space stations, 12 mars rovers, etc. You learn new things by DOING new things, not spinning your wheels repeating yourself.
Go to moon over and over and there's no money for space station, no money for mars. Thats easy math isnt it?
And dont yell "VAB!" like a newb. I'm a radiological tech and everything you read on a dork page was certifiable manure
How did the Soviets manage to send animal specimens around the moon 1968-70? Our probes to Jupiter--the most intense region of radiation in the solar system--were easily handled by 1970s spacecraft.
The Apollo CSM craft was designed to protect against radiation. On earth, every square inch of the surface it protected by a column of air that weighs just 14.7 pounds. The spacecraft was made of much-denser metal. Get it?
@MadHighway No it's all because your brainwashed ass is being fooled by the government who in turn doesn't give two shits about your existence. You really believe that we went to the moon? How do you take off from the moon when it's hard enough to take off from earth answer me that smart guy...
FACTS: lunar gravity is six times weaker than Earth's; the lunar module ascent stage was designed to be VERY light in weight, and was used in a realtively weak gravity field. The weight of the LM ascent stage in lunar gravity at liftoff was about 1 ton or so. It had a thrust-mass ratio of over 2 to 1.
So yeah, it's hard to take off from earth but easy to do on the moon. We mastered earth launches which made lunar liftoffs easy. All there in the scientific and engineering facts.
And if you're that paranoid to think I've somehow been 'programmed' to learn and understand facts, well, that's just plain NUTS. The Soviet Union--the USA's Cold War enemy--confirms US manned landings on the moon 1969-1972. he Soviet Union--the USA's Cold War enemy--would have cried hoax with Brezhnev gloating and leading the way. So would have China and Mao.
There was no hoax, no conspiracy to fake the events--except in the febrile minds of paranoiacs.
@mvdiablo And you're brainwashed into believing every single dork hoax webpage you've ever read. So you're smarter than us WHY exactly? ;)
The moon only has 1/6th our gravity dumbass. Meaning you only need 16% of the power to launch. This is exactly the GED stupidity from you Mcjob idiots thats gotten the "hoax" laughed at for 40 years. You're retards.
@mvdiablo I'm the guy calling you a conspiracy retard, thats who. And since you posted on a public forum, I'll respond to you anytime I like and I dare you to try to stop me. ;)
For all the money you allegedly made, you're still every bit the idiot that the typical janitor is, gullibly believing every dork webpage you read and then naively wondering why we think you're an dumbass. Any other hoax twat can do that with a GED ;)
@SpreadingtheMuse so u think this is all bullsh? i think its an interesting topic. sometimes its hard to tell whats true and what isn't. forget about the pictures for a sec...what about the wind blowing the american flag? im definately no expert on this topic.
@lubui2583 Its not wind. Its a flimsy piece of cloth attached to a rigid flagpole in a frictionless environment. Try to STOP IT from moving. Every footstep, vibration, bump, would set it off at the slightest effort. Its easy.
There is not even one logical hypothesis to make anyone with brain to believe the NASA fairytale.A total of 32000 pictures returned from this alleged moon exploration.. from 27 people for 100 days with 60+ cameras and unlimited film in outer space. However only 3 or 4 pictures of the Earth were taken...is that weird or what?. I mean even if you have send children they would return about 300-400 pictures of our home planet from various distances.
Even though I'm sure they hide away in USA,I have send an email to the European parliament asking to make a decision not to allow entrance in Europe to the Apollo so called "astronauts" for the deception and fraud they commit against humanity.Anyone who agree with this ,please send your emails at will.Let's take some action against these criminals.
@Callofduty4641 There is no evidence NASA killed anyone apart from wild statements on utube conspiracy theory vids unbacked by any proof.Russia did put the first man in space but never sent a man to the moon.If Apollo was a fake,why didn`t the russians expose the hoax? Both NASA and the USSR tracked each others missions.Is it likely that the Soviets simply allowed their hated rivals to claim the glory of a moon landing they knew to be fake? the Russians congratulated NASA
@swfcocs1 Every time some asshole ( I use the term asshole because that's what I think of people that believe in things blindly) runs out of intelligent debate they bring in the old "the Russians would have exposed it" .
Do you think the Russians are somehow void of corruption ?
@mlmr11 Of course not but it was 1969.The height of the cold war.As marxists they believed they would win and rule the world.Apollo is not about "blindly" believing govts.The real evidence backs Apollo.1000s of experts in geology,physics,engineering and astronomy have studied the Apollo data,film and samples.100s of peer reviewed academic papers have been written.Staff at museums,universities and the various space agencies(many unfriendly to the US) believe Apollo.Have they all been "fooled"?
@swfcocs1 I have reviewed the available evidence with an understanding in equity and I don't believe NASA's position with regard to the Apollo program is authentic.
@mlmr11 Have all the relevant experts,scientists,teachers etc all been "fooled" or are they all "in on it"?.The overwhelming expert opinion is that Apollo is genuine.I fail to see how the staff at the Chinese or Russian space agencies could all be either deceived or "paid off".I,whilst studying for my thesis on the Spanish civil war,viewed files marked "above top secret" myself.The soviet union was known as a state that kept records of their actions,yet no files backing a hoax have emerged.Why?
@mlmr11 Instead of attempting to patronize you could answer my valid points(it`s a classic tactic to deflect valid issues)By definition a question regarding the Geo-political situation isn`t "parochial",and certainly not "irrelevant" .Whether a question is "loaded" is simply a matter of personal interpretation.It is conspiracy theorists who are making the accusation,as in any court of law the accuser has to prove guilt.No court requires people to prove innocence.
@mlmr11 On the contrary.NASA landed 12 men on the moon.They provided mountains of data,100s of hours of film and 840+ pounds of moon rock.NASA has provided ample evidence of their achievements.Any court,be it criminal,civil or libel recieves a complaint that the story as told is false.It is for the accuser to prove that story is false.All the hoax theories have been refuted endlessly,whether its the flag,the lack of stars or the VA belts.
@swfcocs1 You are simply wrong. We can't have an event to dispute without an original claim which , in this case , is NASA's claim to their position on the Apollo program.
@mlmr11 ON for arguments sake,what if a paper alleged Obama was a drug addict? He would deny it and refer it to a libel court.The court would require the paper provide proof.Look at it from NASA`s position.They landed 12 men on the moon.Theories begin to emerge.It reaches a stage where" truthers" confront astronauts,in front of their families,calling them "frauds" and demanding they swear on a bible.Swearing on it would make no difference to the theories whatsover.The situation becomes absurd!
@swfcocs1 The situation regarding astronauts and their families is collateral. It is not something pertinent to the original claim NASA put forth.
With respect to your point regarding Obama , you are making my point for me. The burden of proof lies with that making the original claim which is the paper of accusation.
You can't have a dispute without an original claim. In this case it is up to NASA to prove their position is authentic.
@swfcocs1 I do not have to answer your questions under natural law as the burden of proof does not lie with me. I am not making a claim of an event I am simply stating that I do not believe the original claim being made, which in this case is made by NASA, is authentic. This is a point that you cannot supersede with libel and labels of tactics.
@mlmr11 Apollo is beginning to suffer the same nonsense as evolution,where todays scientists are having to justify amazing achievements of yesteryear by people(in the case of evolution) who dismiss all evidence as "fake".Conspiracy theorists use the same tactic.Any evidence that disproves them is "fake" all scientists,teachers,experts and politicians" etc are "in on it".Anyone who disagrees is a "sheep" or "asleep".A request for proof is deflected by saying you need to "think outside the box"!
@swfcocs1 At initial look it would seem illogical to believe that all experts , teachers and scientists would be in on it.
But when you look at it from the point of them not actually being in on it but rather being educated on information that they've been given that may be faulty you can then follow a different path of logic.
I have never called anything fake. I have simply stated that I don't believe NASA's position on the Apollo program is authentic.
@mlmr11Many universities,museums,space agencies etc have librariescontaining academic papers on Apollo.These are peer reviewed.They are backed by experiments as in science papers.Its hard to see how this could be misconsrued to fit a certain position.How does the Obama scenario back your position?.The accuser has to provide evidence to back their allegation.Obama had prevously admitted minor drug experimentation.By acussing him of addiction they follow the same path as a theorist claiming "fake"
@swfcocs1 Ok I apologize with regard to the Obama reference. My position was faulty as I was unaware that Obama made the original claim that he is a drug abuser.
I already gave the illustration regarding the point in this particular post
@mlmr11 He skirted around the isue(as all politicians will do),admitting to pot use and hinting at dabbling with coke.It was during the 08 election race,the republicans were hinting at having serious drug "dirt" on him!
@swfcocs1 seriously? pot? You really think that messes with your brain...maybe if you smoke everyday for the rest of your life, but marijuana is unharmful. He probably used it as a relaxant just like millions of people. so try again.
@mvdiablo You missed my point completely.If you read my previous posts I wasn`t condemning Obama,I was using him as an analogy of who needs to prove guilt in a court case.That is the burden is on conspiracy theorists to prove NASA`s "guilt" in the "Apollo hoax" nonsense,something truthers have been unavailable to do for 40+ years.President Obama was being used as an example,nithing else.
@mlmr11 I can provide an explanation for any of the hoax theories(radiation,flag,wires,no stars).For arguments sake could you provide similar for the mountains of real proof,actuable sourceable evidence backed by scientific law and/or evidence.Or explain how the reality of the geo-poloitical situation in 1969 would make a conspiracy unfeasible.? Or give a rough estimate of how many peple wuld need to be "in on it" in 1969 or the following 42 years?
@swfcocs1 Geo politics can't be considered because it is not pertinent to the actual event. Geo politics are also a(n) volatile, unpredictable and uncertain scope to base sight on .
@mlmr11 The unpredictability of geo-politics make it a vital factor.I`ve had theorists claim to me that all political events are a "sham",controlled from behind the scenes by some "NWO" who undertake all current events,be it 9/11,7/7,HAARP,Japanese Tsunami,chemtrails the list is endless.(`i`m not tarring you with this tag).It`s undebatable as any new proof disputing their worldview is "proof" of yet another layer of plot)The lack of evidence is "proof" of how secret it all is! An odd mindset!
@swfcocs1 Interesting point and a very valid viewpoint.
However the same could be said for proponents of NASA's position. They have their world view whereas NASA's position fits into it. It may be the mainstream worldview or something very close to it . That doesn't make them right or wrong .
This is why geopolitics can't be considered in evidence. Facts cannot be subject to world view.
@mlmr11 With respect,there is a difference.NASA`s position is backed by mountains of data,footage and samples as well as witness statements.The hoax theory has none of these.The main hoax vidmaker,Sibrel,is a taxi driver.No offence to taxi drivers but is this relevant expertise? Is it likely he`s spotted "errors" missed by 1000s of experts for 40 years?.I`m no fan of the current form of capitalism but it`s not a matter of propaganda,just evidence.It`s occams razor.
Man, was Kaysing & Rene' really that stupid that they didn't know the Van Allen's are made of alpha & beta rad' and you can block α and ß radiation with small amount of aluminum?
Obviously Sibrel is stupid enough.
No wonder the hoax-nuts believ, they saw this "show" in 2001 and were gullible enough to believe this was based on real science...LOL
Maybe a death-bed confesion from an insider would disclose the truth but then the reporter would be in great danger. Maybe are these insiders threathened with murder and the murder of their families that nobody dear to speak out...I always must think about people like Stanley Kubrick...suckered in and cursed for life.....but tried to redeem himself with his movies.
" Regarding the Apollo missions I'm NOT sure these men walked on the Moon" says Mr B.O' Leary the NASA scientist who was a scientific adviser of the Apollo program and astronaut himself.
There is a certain idiot (blocked) that think they know what they are talking about when infact the more they spout their shit for everyone to see the more they expose themself as a nasa cock-sucker and self-proclaimed expert. A dickhead indeed.
And why are you dumb enough to think you "block" someone on a movie that isnt yours? They can respond to your retarded newb rambles anytime they please ;)
NASA claims 27 of its people went to the Moon well back in the technological antiquity in the middle of the last century.According to the claim 3 people each time in 9 missions.Each mission lasted about 10 days so the total of human present in outer space(allegedly)was about 90 days.All of these people were trained in photography and they had a total of about 60 still photo and video cameras with unlimited film.But guess what.Not one of the the 32,000 images they returned containing any stars
AS 11 37 55 28 -This photograph reveals more than any other crook Armstrong is a cross-eyed person -no way to pass a medical test for an astronaut in a million years.
Fact 1: Van Allen is full of radioactive particles.
Fact 2: Radioactive particles can be blocked by plastic. Thats first year rudimentary radiation safety taught in every OSHA and HAZMAT training course in the world. Just like the ones you have personally NEVER had ;)
So yes, I would volunteer. Because its the Rad Techs like me who get to do exciting stuff like that, inside of whining online about what you're a dumb newb in, like you. Leave science to the adults sonny ;)
is about 360 mrems per year, or 0.0036 Sv, which is a small dose. However, International Standards allow exposure to as much as 5,000 mrems (0.05 Sv) a year for those who work with and around radioactive material. Apollo 14 (9-day mission to the Moon): 11.4 mSv. which is 0.01 Sv, and this is below the allowed dose. But Other sources give different amounts of radiation on the Moon, which are much higher.
Average dose is going upward every year due to increase in medical procedures. Its 600 mrem now. But you're right that the 9 day mission gave them well below the allowed limits. I still want to know what the dose rate is on the moon's surface, no fear-mongering attached.
@SpreadingtheMuse Every source which was discussing the dose rate on the moon surface used information from NASA. In this case NASA is the accused one and information coming from it should be disregarded. We have to see if the Russians have done some research on this and perhaps use their data.
"disregarded" is a blatant application of guilty until proven innocent and you know it. Its assuming the very thing you're trying to prove and violates every rule of adult debate. You DO NOT go around saying "I ACCUSE you of being a child molester and its up to you to prove me wrong." 100% bogus and wrong.
Bottom line, you have no data whatsoever for real dose rates on the moon. Therefore just inventing fake numbers "AUGH WE'RE GONNA DIE!" is completely irresponsible.
"baldly exposed to cosmic rays and solar flares, and some of that radiation is very hard to stop with shielding. "
Solar flares and the solar wind is 88% particles, blockable with plastic. Only gamma and xray need lead, but they are also the weakest kinds, having a mere 1/20th the strength of alpha and beta. You see how this goes.
"very hard to shield" is the usual wishy-washiness that feeds "RADIATION WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!" We know exactly how to shield. No fear-mongering
@SpreadingtheMuse Inventing numbers? I got the numbers from NASA website. I am not inventing anything. Also, I am not trying to prove anything. I leave people like you to believe in whatever they want. You can even use the data about the Moon provided by the Apollo missions. The only problem is that it is not accurate....I am not going to argue with you, and other believers. I prefer to know rather than believe. At this point I am not convinced that they went to the moon due to some anomalies...
I havent seen ANY numbers for the moons surface. You just admitted no one knows what they are. But you still want to assume the absolute worst with no analytical evidence. "To know rather than believe" is exactly what hoax pushers DONT do. They pick a side and then cherry pick all evidence to fit. My side supports the "know," as we're the ones who provide facts on radiation instead of saying "RADIATION WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" I work as a Radiological Tech, I know my subject.
There is no "anomaly" you can mention that has any scientific validity. The "hoax" is not pushed by any scientist or expert of any kind. All evidence is based in ignorance or illiteracy in the subject matter. As a physicist myself I've seen all the evidence and know exactly how stupid all of it is. I've told you that before.
Apollo 1 was not going to the moon. It was to test the command module. The fire gave them time to reevaluate the way forward.
MARILYN19481 22 hours ago
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MARILYN19481 22 hours ago
I think once i heard that the reason you couldn't see stars while on the moon was because the moon itself is too reflective and washes out small points of light like that of stars. Don't know if it's true but that's one explanation i heard a few years ago.
damntheman88 5 days ago
I am going to say this only once. The capsule was filled with 100% Oxygen rather than a normal air mixture of Nitrogen (~78%), Oxygen (~21%), and small amounts of Argon & Carbon Dioxide, and other trace gases. The capsule is filled with unshielded electrical wiring and switches. Even a diminutive spark in 100% O2 ignites. Why would people who could lauch into orbit not think that a spark could ignite 100% O2. Why didn't Gus, Ed, and Roger think of this either? This tells HOW, but not WHY.
spinbaba 5 days ago
how do you murder someone with a train? fuckin retarded
gbeagle130 5 days ago
alright, @Fate264 and @SpreadingtheMuse - i don't usually write back when people disagree with me, because i don't think it's worth it. but all i'm going to say is, i'll think how i think and you think how you think. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, last time i checked it's a free country right? and just a little FF fun fact, NASA isn't part of the United States government.... Google it.
emjma1002 6 days ago
i feel sorry for people who are silly enough to think the moon landing ISNT a hoax. none of it adds up... NONE. just sayin'
emjma1002 1 week ago 2
@emjma1002 That might be a little bit of an exaggeration. What evidence do you have against Apollo?
Fate264 1 week ago
@emjma1002 Actually, I've never seen ANY "hoax" evidence that wasnt solely the fault of idiots not knowing what they were talking about. Theres nothing you can mention which isnt scientifically incompetent.
SpreadingtheMuse 6 days ago
1:05 to 1:12 says it all
bigbopper993 1 week ago
I now no NASA is evil and Obama did something right for once, end it.
DaTanmanPs3 2 weeks ago
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part of the paid debunkers agenda is to be the last comment and to create arguments so that people who know the mL was fake as shit, dont get the reach around. Thyre scum of the earth nazi nasa demons. EVERYTHING about the ML is fake, not just some of it, thats why everything can be debunked. Its not that far away and we would go back. Mars is also a fake fukn money machine, I doubt that star wars even exists, they did ALL of that to TAKE the noney.
caessarion 2 weeks ago
That thicky Ron Baron, parking his car on a railroad! Obviously not THAT intelligent! Honestly: if you're THAT careless, you deserve to be murd, er, I mean hit by a bloody train!
immensecat 2 weeks ago
Factual Lies, interviews with non experts, dramatic pictures and music = Fantasy video
Spindry96 3 weeks ago
The pictures are edited.. so... that doesnt mean anything at all, for the most part NASA edit every friggin photo release to the public...
Space pictures are not taken in full color.. they are black and white, or monochrome then some artist paint them up...
elpelu123 3 weeks ago
no one has ever been to moon, the evidence proofs it. in the NASA videos the surface is dusty, but everybody knows moon is cheese and cheese is not dusty
Ewuliina 4 weeks ago 8
@Ewuliina Yah, go outside at night on a clear day and look up. What do you see? Little, bright dots, called stars. Now imagine acually BEING in outter space, would'nt you see billions of stars?
s84531241998 5 days ago
we meet again 245,177 ppl....
Thompson1246 1 month ago
it's an obvious hoax, we can see the moon's surface with many powerful telescopes that can see the birth of stars, yet can't see the fucking surface of the nearest satellite...the MOON? bullshit, the Japanese and others have stated they've looked at the moon surface and there isn't shit there, no US flag NOTHING.
XenoType008 1 month ago
@XenoType008 Uhm, you do know that the Lunar Lander and other man made objects ARE visible? You can even see the footprints taken from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
BelRiose2000 3 weeks ago
@XenoType008
You're obviously misinformed, because the Japanese did see landing sites with their lunar orbiter. Also, the USSR tracked Apollo missions to the moon. You also may like to know Australia provided the radio telescope and personnel to carry transmissions from astronauts on the moon.
Independent confirmation from foreign countries--in the case of the USSR, an arch rival of the US during the Cold War. No hoax.
MadHighway 3 weeks ago
@MadHighway america payed them money to lie
ThePadoooo 1 week ago 2
@ThePadoooo "payed" is the invention of ANOTHER flying guess tard conspiracy. Using retarded conspiracy #2 as you "proof" of retarded conspiracy #1 only proves how desperately stupids your evidence is for BOTH. Just making up your story as you go.
SpreadingtheMuse 6 days ago
no way! they basically murdered the austronauts! they led them to their own death and were literally blown and burned to death, humanity is just a race waiting to be killed by our very own hands if we dont stop. i am ashamed and apalled by this!!! >_>
BagelzZzMonicaLol 1 month ago 4
@BagelzZzMonicaLol You're nothing to be proud of yourself ;) I'm embarrassed to even read your juvenile post ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 weeks ago
does the autobots land on the moon, stupid people think so,, nasa laughing
thewho186 1 month ago
@thewho186 i'm not sure what u mean by autobots (transformers are u serious u stupid fuck), but they realized that is it way to expensive to do manned expedition to anywhere in the space. Robots are being sent to different planets and it should not be that hard to understand...
lostorb12 1 month ago
@lostorb12 NASA ARE LIARS AND YOU'RE BUYING IT, YOU'RE THE STUPID FUCK. IF NASA SAID THEY WENT TO THE SUN I'M SURE YOU WILL BELIEVE THEM BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO THINK FOR YOUR SELF, AND THAT'S A STUPID FUCK. HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR VIDEO IT'S LIKE 70'S SPACE MOVIES, IT'S UNREALISTIC
thewho186 1 month ago
"locked away at a military base" guess then dont want to tell the truth :/
AlexS9403 1 month ago
Well if Fox TV says its bullshit then that's enough for me!
KMPaz4op 2 months ago
@KMPaz4op flag flopping on the moon is enough evidence for me cause their is no air on the moon even if u got a fan or any air source u still wont be able to generate air on the moon unless if ur wearing a mask
TheEgyptianOne 1 month ago
@TheEgyptianOne I been living on Earth for a long time, and I have never seen a flag flap like that. By the way the Earth has an atmosphere, so if that was on Earth then it would flap like they do on Earth. That wasn't flapping, that was swinging like a pendulum unimpeded by air, therefore there was no air.
KMPaz4op 1 month ago
@KMPaz4op look again, the tip of the flag was string.
lum2ina 1 month ago
@TheEgyptianOne have u seen the mythbuster episode on the moon landing? They proved that the flag could move without any air or wind because of the momentum when they put it in. I don't believe in moon landing but it is possible for the flag to move like that. Btw, There, look it up, learn how to use it.
lostorb12 1 month ago
@KMPaz4op if you believe everything that come out of the FOX channel, you are a good American.
lostorb12 1 month ago
the video you all saw was faked they would never show you the real video because none of you would believe what they saw
MegaWesleywesley 2 months ago
@MegaWesleywesley The only thing thats 'faked" is the hoaxtard ability to convince us they have anything over a 3rd grade education
SpreadingtheMuse 2 months ago
With all the evidence in favour of the Apollo program, you really have to be a stupid person to believe it was faked. It's always funny to see how the hoaxers never possess ANY understanding for even the simplest of physical concepts, yet they "know" better than every scientist on the planet. Laugh or cry? Undecided...
aigg 2 months ago
Dios Miooooo!!! poor Astronauts!!! and family. :( I am starting to hate NASA.
adrianaveliz 3 months ago
People died in WW2 also.. so WW2 must be a huge conspiracy hoax cover up. Fuck maybe everone who has ever died is a cover up?
Spindry96 3 months ago
@Spindry96 not everyone who believes the moon landing is fake thinks all major things that happen are a hoax so stop being so ignorant. People are entitled to their opinion even it is different from yours. So grow up, stop with stupid idiotic statements
thebigloc1 3 months ago
@thebigloc1 You call me ignorant, tell me to grow up and stop making idiotic statements. Guess i'm not entitled to MY opinion.
Spindry96 3 months ago
@thebigloc1
The moonlanding is NOT a fucking "opinion." Its fact. Its either a fact that we went or its a fact that we didnt. We cant both be right. Therefore the idiots dumb enough to believe the hoax with the retarded evidence that any 9th grader could refute have no cause to complain about being laughed at.
SpreadingtheMuse 3 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse Fuck me cunt !!!
You trolling here too?
No I'm not, I am policing.
Chev4206 3 months ago
@Chev4206 I'm here to remind everyone that getting their science Apollo education from a 19 year old mcjob is a really retarded thing to do ;)
SOME of us actually work in technical jobs for a living, and get to look down on all the newbs who cut and paste "FAKE!" pretending to be an expert. Like you ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 3 months ago
R.I.P to those astronauts killed
10047paul 3 months ago
yeah, those liars will rest in peace but it wont be heaven. It will be in some freemasonic lodge with lui cifer . hahahah
Easydollars 3 months ago
Hoaxters - you are a bunch of morons. Go look at the LRO photo's (not that I need any evidence at all). Pure logic and reasoning is all you really need.
But I guarantee that when the next Lunar trip is made (China?), if they walk up and take PHOTO's of any of the other 6 Apollo artifacts, the hoaxters will say that is faked too, or perhaps even that THAT trip is being faked in the same mysterious NASA buildings
Facking losers
myrtlebox 4 months ago
@myrtlebox ...I am more exited then anyone else to see the China Ants do a better job, they are way more capable of doing things right, and Yes, depending on their pics we would all know if The USA/NASA were as good faking something in the 70th has they were in 9/11.
adrianaveliz 3 months ago
@adrianaveliz
China? China is fucking up low Earth orbit badly with debris and is using stolen technology to get its space 'program' running.
The US landed astronauts on the moon. The USSR, its Cold War enemy--ENEMY--confirmed the landings using its own ability to track spacecraft. Why would the Soviets confirm their enemy's achievement?
The landings on the moon happened; six times and twelve men.
Stop spouting this hoax nonsense and learn at least SOME science, engineering, and history.
MadHighway 2 months ago
re: the fire. I love it how people that weren't even there can claim to know it was intentional. If they can't even say who did it, how can they say it was intentional? No proof whatsoever. Also at 4:10 how can being struck by a train be NASA's fault rofl Space expolaration and rocket work is extremely dangerous but their have been 1000 times more deaths from mining, so why does no one claim a mining company conspiracy theory??
22ness0hayden 4 months ago
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22ness0hayden 4 months ago
this part of the feature is purely speculatory, and circumstantial. Not actual proof, hence it's not viable in any court of law, however many of the previous evidence presented (film & pictures of the surface of the moon +moon landing) is quite strong, and hold weight.
hunter4hire 4 months ago
9-11 was clearly an inside job by the bushies and an uncontrollable secret government, as proven by building 7 and it's implosion. The fox news sheep buy the 9-11 crap like it's gospel. But when tin foil hat crap like the moon landing being faked is presented by the fox fake news channel, you sheep eat it up. The moon rocks prove we went there, you can not get around that. Steel bldgs falling into dust? can't happen.
pupilofreality 4 months ago
@pupilofreality Moon rocks prove we landed on the moon....WHAT?
TheAppleShampoo182 4 months ago
@TheAppleShampoo182 We brought back rocks from the surface of the moon and gave some to countrys and universitys around the world. proof we went to the moon. Fox chanel keeps spouting this bullshit that the moon landings were faked. Yet an obvious fake like the wtc bldg 7 is ignored or laughed at by the foxian and msm types. pay attention, there will be a test latter.
pupilofreality 4 months ago
@pupilofreality You're putting rocks ahead of all the proof, the rocks could of been forged in any way
TheAppleShampoo182 4 months ago
@TheAppleShampoo182 Dude, you're hilarious. It's the rocks from the moon that prove we went there, not the bullshit internet crap that we didn''t. You can't fake the rocks and dust from the moon because every scientific academy from every major country got some as well as universities around the world. If the USA would have faked them we would have been called on it immediately. We not only walked on the moon bro, but wrap your head around this, we took a car up there and drove on it. LOL.
pupilofreality 4 months ago
@pupilofreality You mean, they brought a car to somewhere hidden and drove it around the man made hills and hollows
TheAppleShampoo182 4 months ago
@TheAppleShampoo182 Ignore the dickhead Muse.
Chev4206 3 months ago
@pupilofreality are u talking about the so called moons that usa government gave to several countries saying they went to the moon?.well i have bad news for u.those rocks have been proved that r from arizona desert.so that cancels ur saying about those rocks that prove that moon landing.actually those rocks proved that moon landing was a HOAX.(long live......moon....of arizona....stones.lol)
itachiitachi1946 4 months ago
@TheAppleShampoo182
Is "could of" a techincal term? Can you explain "could of?" What science languange is that? ;)
Maybe also explain that why even though the moonrocks were given away to 150+ foreign countries, not ONE of them were able to see the "could of" forgery.
SpreadingtheMuse 4 months ago
technically less than 25 ppl would need to know if they were faking it. everyone else could be conned like everyone else. not saying we did, not saying we didnt - just an observation. Basically the astronauts, a few controllers, and a few media fakers would be all that was needed to pull it off.
plus theres that whole factor involving the gov lying about just about everything to us since the 50s - it could be possible either way.
PrimeTargetSecurity 4 months ago
@PrimeTargetSecurity
I dont see logically at all how you could pull off a "fake" with only "a few controllers," and say you'd need HUNDREDS no matter if it was fake or real. But its telling that the only people who say "a few" are the hoax pushers, making a convenient assumption to avoid an inconvenient question they dont have an answer for.
And "lying since 50's" is ridiculously generalist. You're not allowed convenient assumptions just to make your story feel better.
SpreadingtheMuse 4 months ago
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Clumsy joker Obama clearly implies the supposed authenticity of the moonlanding is an issue that doesn't matter..which is understandable since he knows it was a hoax. You may ask "Is this another B.Clinton like attempt of play down the significance of the Moon Hoax of 1969-1972 and try soften the impact ,the International embarrassment ,and the crimes associated with it?"
The answer is yes!
potrodsas 4 months ago
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"I don't know the distance to the van Allen radiation belts".
Apollo actor-astronaut E.Cernan
"I don't think we went far out to encounter the radiation belts maybe we did"
Apollo wired-astronaut A.Bean.
These two funny crooks thanks to the criminal American regime enjoy freedom when in Europe we would had them hanged upside down and throw tomatoes to them.
MickeyMouseApollo 5 months ago
This is completely ridiculous... those 15 Astronauts that died, died honorably doing what only they were capable of, flying aircraft at the edge of their limits without modern computers to do the job for them.
Also the types on radiation in SPACE is NOT anything like X Ray radiation, NOR the kind of radiation that killed the Japanese after Hiroshima.
Put down the act and deal with WHOLE facts, not these half truths that encourage widespread stupidity.
CPTDJB 5 months ago
@CPTDJB Thanks man. So right.
Thinkcity 4 months ago
One of the best supporting arguments against the hoax is it was all faked so accurately they may have just as well gone ahead and did it. There were 10 years of preparation in the Mercury, Gemini and first 4 Apollo flights. They employed 400,000 American engineers. They created all the right technology to go and then didn't? Then they employed scientists to make sure all the moon surface photography looked correct showing no stars, etc. It's obvious it couldn't have been faked so well.
sierraMamaProd 5 months ago
@sierraMamaProd I just drew a picture of a cat that was so bad that it could have been a real cat!
xxalexmonxx 5 months ago
@sierraMamaProd Absolutely. A hoax would have been more complicated than doing it for real.
Thinkcity 4 months ago
@sierraMamaProd
The hoaxers ask where the $24 billion cost of Apollo went (not really a lot of money) and imply that 400,000 workers were paid off to keep them quiet. A measly $60,000 each to shut up for 40 years? That doesn't make sense.
The promotion of this hoax nonsense has to stop. The stupidity really is taking over.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@MadHighway LOL!! nothing funnier then upsetting patriotic people!! LOL!! SIX TIMES ON THE MOON!! AND NEVER GOT BETTER PICS THEN THIS CRAP?!! Sorry, till they show something better it is a hoax....
adrianaveliz 2 months ago
@adrianaveliz WTF do you expect with 1972 video quality? Since thats the best ignorance hoax believers have to offer, the landings were real til you get something better.
SpreadingtheMuse 2 months ago
@adrianaveliz There are hundreds of pics with VERY GOOD quality from the 6 lunar landings. The videos are of course of lesser quality, since they didn't bring any studio quality cameras to Moon. They were to heavy and the signals bandwidth didn't allow broadcast quality signals to be transmitted.
So, Your comment about "crap pictures" is laughable ignorant!
YDDES 2 months ago
@YDDES
Don't bother with her--she's a mouthy young chick who thinks she's smarter than scientists and engineers. She's also an anti-American and probably lacking in education in sciences, so doubly ignorant.
You can't educate these people--they're not smart enough to understand they're not smart.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@adrianaveliz
I'm not an American, you dumbass. The moon landings took place 40 years ago--there were no digital cameras back then. Movie cameras taken to the moon 1969-72 were not the quality of today, but the still pictures are of fantastic quality. Shut up and do your research. NOW.
Sorry--don't EVER think you're smarter than the scientists and engineeers who made Apollo possible. Because you don't know what you're talking about.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@MadHighway JAJAJAJA LOOK AT YOU!! I didn't know I have the power to piss you off like a toddler jajajajaja...I am so amazing!! and more because anyone who send any insults to my wonderful self it is cursing itself 10 times, so be careful with your words...everything you say to me turns right back at you IN A BIG SCALE!!
adrianaveliz 2 months ago
@adrianaveliz
You're an ignorant and stupid person, and like all other hoax proponents, you aren't smart enough to know that you're ignorant of science and engineering.
Get back to school and learn science and engineering. Don't be a stupid follower of stupid Youtube conspiracists who lack in education and put forth misbegotten nonsense.
You don't know what you're talking about and it shows how ignorant you are.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@MadHighway right back at you IN A BIG SCALE!! jajajajjaajajjaaj
adrianaveliz 2 months ago
@adrianaveliz
I have an education and I understand science and engineering principles, and I know how Apollo was a success.
You and your kind don't. You're ignorant, you do not understand science, and you think you're smarter than the people involved in making Apollo happen.
Go on--tell us about your education. Tell us about what qualifies you to call the Apollo program a hoax and accuse NASA of murdering its own employees. Tell us why we should think you're smart.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@adrianaveliz Well, what about those "crappy pictures"? Do You know the difference between "digital" and "analouge"? Do You know the word "bandwidth? Do You know the difference between a "TV-camera" and a"16 mm movie camera"? Do You know ANYTHING about photography and spacetravel?
YDDES 2 months ago
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The moon missions were faked in a studio. Here's a link to some of the evidence.
politicalforum (dot) com/moon-landing/190138-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio (dot) html
Cosmicmoron 5 months ago
@miguel192 so they dont know for certain
matau254 5 months ago
NONE of the conspirasists have ever been to the moon
matau254 6 months ago
@matau254 So what?
Miguel192 5 months ago
" I'm not sure these men walked on the Moon" Brian O' Leary.
"I don't know how long before I ceased to be known as the Moon man" NeilArmstrong.
"It was a stunt" Buzz Aldrin.
"Maybe you should find Armstrong and ask him" Jan Lundberg
"The old carpenter was ahead of his time" Bill Clinton
"My father's death was no accident. He was murdered.”
Scott Grissom.
"Did you ever wonder why Nixon was not present at the Apollo11 launching?" Nikita Khrouschev
"This whole thing was a hoax" Bill Kaysing.
potrodsas 6 months ago
@potrodsas
Thank god you quoted Kaysing. I was worried you were going to make an idiot of yourself ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 5 months ago
@potrodsas
"I use quotes badly, quotes that are bullshit, or quotes that are taken out of context by another misquoter" potrodsas potrodsas
MadHighway 2 months ago
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mvdiablo 6 months ago
@mvdiablo
We went "back" FIVE TIMES. So how many does it take?
Going to the moon was one goal, THEN we wanted to do others: 6 shuttles, 2 space stations, 12 mars rovers, etc. You learn new things by DOING new things, not spinning your wheels repeating yourself.
Go to moon over and over and there's no money for space station, no money for mars. Thats easy math isnt it?
And dont yell "VAB!" like a newb. I'm a radiological tech and everything you read on a dork page was certifiable manure
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
@mvdiablo
How did the Soviets manage to send animal specimens around the moon 1968-70? Our probes to Jupiter--the most intense region of radiation in the solar system--were easily handled by 1970s spacecraft.
The Apollo CSM craft was designed to protect against radiation. On earth, every square inch of the surface it protected by a column of air that weighs just 14.7 pounds. The spacecraft was made of much-denser metal. Get it?
Science. Learn it. Now.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@MadHighway No it's all because your brainwashed ass is being fooled by the government who in turn doesn't give two shits about your existence. You really believe that we went to the moon? How do you take off from the moon when it's hard enough to take off from earth answer me that smart guy...
mvdiablo 2 months ago
@mvdiablo
FACTS: lunar gravity is six times weaker than Earth's; the lunar module ascent stage was designed to be VERY light in weight, and was used in a realtively weak gravity field. The weight of the LM ascent stage in lunar gravity at liftoff was about 1 ton or so. It had a thrust-mass ratio of over 2 to 1.
So yeah, it's hard to take off from earth but easy to do on the moon. We mastered earth launches which made lunar liftoffs easy. All there in the scientific and engineering facts.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@mvdiablo
And if you're that paranoid to think I've somehow been 'programmed' to learn and understand facts, well, that's just plain NUTS. The Soviet Union--the USA's Cold War enemy--confirms US manned landings on the moon 1969-1972. he Soviet Union--the USA's Cold War enemy--would have cried hoax with Brezhnev gloating and leading the way. So would have China and Mao.
There was no hoax, no conspiracy to fake the events--except in the febrile minds of paranoiacs.
MadHighway 2 months ago
@mvdiablo And you're brainwashed into believing every single dork hoax webpage you've ever read. So you're smarter than us WHY exactly? ;)
The moon only has 1/6th our gravity dumbass. Meaning you only need 16% of the power to launch. This is exactly the GED stupidity from you Mcjob idiots thats gotten the "hoax" laughed at for 40 years. You're retards.
SpreadingtheMuse 2 months ago
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mvdiablo 2 months ago
@mvdiablo I'm the guy calling you a conspiracy retard, thats who. And since you posted on a public forum, I'll respond to you anytime I like and I dare you to try to stop me. ;)
For all the money you allegedly made, you're still every bit the idiot that the typical janitor is, gullibly believing every dork webpage you read and then naively wondering why we think you're an dumbass. Any other hoax twat can do that with a GED ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 2 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse so u think this is all bullsh? i think its an interesting topic. sometimes its hard to tell whats true and what isn't. forget about the pictures for a sec...what about the wind blowing the american flag? im definately no expert on this topic.
lubui2583 2 months ago
@lubui2583 Its not wind. Its a flimsy piece of cloth attached to a rigid flagpole in a frictionless environment. Try to STOP IT from moving. Every footstep, vibration, bump, would set it off at the slightest effort. Its easy.
SpreadingtheMuse 2 months ago 2
Happy Hoax anniversary !
potrodsas 6 months ago
@potrodsas
42 years and the hoax crowd is STILL uses "liar liar pants on fire!" as its best evidence. ;)
Maybe in another 42 it wont sound so stupid ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 6 months ago
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There is not even one logical hypothesis to make anyone with brain to believe the NASA fairytale.A total of 32000 pictures returned from this alleged moon exploration.. from 27 people for 100 days with 60+ cameras and unlimited film in outer space. However only 3 or 4 pictures of the Earth were taken...is that weird or what?. I mean even if you have send children they would return about 300-400 pictures of our home planet from various distances.
potrodsas 6 months ago
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Even though I'm sure they hide away in USA,I have send an email to the European parliament asking to make a decision not to allow entrance in Europe to the Apollo so called "astronauts" for the deception and fraud they commit against humanity.Anyone who agree with this ,please send your emails at will.Let's take some action against these criminals.
potrodsas 6 months ago
They will just claim plausible deniability
LottsaLasagna 6 months ago
wow NASA killed ppl just to say they where frist to the moon at least russia did it legit
Callofduty4641 7 months ago
@Callofduty4641 There is no evidence NASA killed anyone apart from wild statements on utube conspiracy theory vids unbacked by any proof.Russia did put the first man in space but never sent a man to the moon.If Apollo was a fake,why didn`t the russians expose the hoax? Both NASA and the USSR tracked each others missions.Is it likely that the Soviets simply allowed their hated rivals to claim the glory of a moon landing they knew to be fake? the Russians congratulated NASA
swfcocs1 7 months ago
@swfcocs1 Every time some asshole ( I use the term asshole because that's what I think of people that believe in things blindly) runs out of intelligent debate they bring in the old "the Russians would have exposed it" .
Do you think the Russians are somehow void of corruption ?
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 Of course not but it was 1969.The height of the cold war.As marxists they believed they would win and rule the world.Apollo is not about "blindly" believing govts.The real evidence backs Apollo.1000s of experts in geology,physics,engineering and astronomy have studied the Apollo data,film and samples.100s of peer reviewed academic papers have been written.Staff at museums,universities and the various space agencies(many unfriendly to the US) believe Apollo.Have they all been "fooled"?
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 I have reviewed the available evidence with an understanding in equity and I don't believe NASA's position with regard to the Apollo program is authentic.
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 Have all the relevant experts,scientists,teachers etc all been "fooled" or are they all "in on it"?.The overwhelming expert opinion is that Apollo is genuine.I fail to see how the staff at the Chinese or Russian space agencies could all be either deceived or "paid off".I,whilst studying for my thesis on the Spanish civil war,viewed files marked "above top secret" myself.The soviet union was known as a state that kept records of their actions,yet no files backing a hoax have emerged.Why?
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mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 Instead of attempting to patronize you could answer my valid points(it`s a classic tactic to deflect valid issues)By definition a question regarding the Geo-political situation isn`t "parochial",and certainly not "irrelevant" .Whether a question is "loaded" is simply a matter of personal interpretation.It is conspiracy theorists who are making the accusation,as in any court of law the accuser has to prove guilt.No court requires people to prove innocence.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 NASA makes the claim it's up to them to prove it. They haven't . They've just got a bunch of salesmen making a lot of noise on the internet
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 On the contrary.NASA landed 12 men on the moon.They provided mountains of data,100s of hours of film and 840+ pounds of moon rock.NASA has provided ample evidence of their achievements.Any court,be it criminal,civil or libel recieves a complaint that the story as told is false.It is for the accuser to prove that story is false.All the hoax theories have been refuted endlessly,whether its the flag,the lack of stars or the VA belts.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 You are simply wrong. We can't have an event to dispute without an original claim which , in this case , is NASA's claim to their position on the Apollo program.
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 ON for arguments sake,what if a paper alleged Obama was a drug addict? He would deny it and refer it to a libel court.The court would require the paper provide proof.Look at it from NASA`s position.They landed 12 men on the moon.Theories begin to emerge.It reaches a stage where" truthers" confront astronauts,in front of their families,calling them "frauds" and demanding they swear on a bible.Swearing on it would make no difference to the theories whatsover.The situation becomes absurd!
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 The situation regarding astronauts and their families is collateral. It is not something pertinent to the original claim NASA put forth.
With respect to your point regarding Obama , you are making my point for me. The burden of proof lies with that making the original claim which is the paper of accusation.
You can't have a dispute without an original claim. In this case it is up to NASA to prove their position is authentic.
mlmr11 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 I do not have to answer your questions under natural law as the burden of proof does not lie with me. I am not making a claim of an event I am simply stating that I do not believe the original claim being made, which in this case is made by NASA, is authentic. This is a point that you cannot supersede with libel and labels of tactics.
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 Apollo is beginning to suffer the same nonsense as evolution,where todays scientists are having to justify amazing achievements of yesteryear by people(in the case of evolution) who dismiss all evidence as "fake".Conspiracy theorists use the same tactic.Any evidence that disproves them is "fake" all scientists,teachers,experts and politicians" etc are "in on it".Anyone who disagrees is a "sheep" or "asleep".A request for proof is deflected by saying you need to "think outside the box"!
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 At initial look it would seem illogical to believe that all experts , teachers and scientists would be in on it.
But when you look at it from the point of them not actually being in on it but rather being educated on information that they've been given that may be faulty you can then follow a different path of logic.
I have never called anything fake. I have simply stated that I don't believe NASA's position on the Apollo program is authentic.
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11Many universities,museums,space agencies etc have librariescontaining academic papers on Apollo.These are peer reviewed.They are backed by experiments as in science papers.Its hard to see how this could be misconsrued to fit a certain position.How does the Obama scenario back your position?.The accuser has to provide evidence to back their allegation.Obama had prevously admitted minor drug experimentation.By acussing him of addiction they follow the same path as a theorist claiming "fake"
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 Ok I apologize with regard to the Obama reference. My position was faulty as I was unaware that Obama made the original claim that he is a drug abuser.
I already gave the illustration regarding the point in this particular post
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 He skirted around the isue(as all politicians will do),admitting to pot use and hinting at dabbling with coke.It was during the 08 election race,the republicans were hinting at having serious drug "dirt" on him!
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 Forgive me if this seems like a smarmy question as is not intended as such .
How does he qualify as skirting the issue given that he admitted to it ?
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 He admitted to pot use and admitted to "other mistakes".I forget the exact phrase.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 seriously? pot? You really think that messes with your brain...maybe if you smoke everyday for the rest of your life, but marijuana is unharmful. He probably used it as a relaxant just like millions of people. so try again.
mvdiablo 6 months ago
@mvdiablo You missed my point completely.If you read my previous posts I wasn`t condemning Obama,I was using him as an analogy of who needs to prove guilt in a court case.That is the burden is on conspiracy theorists to prove NASA`s "guilt" in the "Apollo hoax" nonsense,something truthers have been unavailable to do for 40+ years.President Obama was being used as an example,nithing else.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@mlmr11 I can provide an explanation for any of the hoax theories(radiation,flag,wires,no stars).For arguments sake could you provide similar for the mountains of real proof,actuable sourceable evidence backed by scientific law and/or evidence.Or explain how the reality of the geo-poloitical situation in 1969 would make a conspiracy unfeasible.? Or give a rough estimate of how many peple wuld need to be "in on it" in 1969 or the following 42 years?
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 Geo politics can't be considered because it is not pertinent to the actual event. Geo politics are also a(n) volatile, unpredictable and uncertain scope to base sight on .
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 The unpredictability of geo-politics make it a vital factor.I`ve had theorists claim to me that all political events are a "sham",controlled from behind the scenes by some "NWO" who undertake all current events,be it 9/11,7/7,HAARP,Japanese Tsunami,chemtrails the list is endless.(`i`m not tarring you with this tag).It`s undebatable as any new proof disputing their worldview is "proof" of yet another layer of plot)The lack of evidence is "proof" of how secret it all is! An odd mindset!
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 Interesting point and a very valid viewpoint.
However the same could be said for proponents of NASA's position. They have their world view whereas NASA's position fits into it. It may be the mainstream worldview or something very close to it . That doesn't make them right or wrong .
This is why geopolitics can't be considered in evidence. Facts cannot be subject to world view.
mlmr11 6 months ago
@mlmr11 With respect,there is a difference.NASA`s position is backed by mountains of data,footage and samples as well as witness statements.The hoax theory has none of these.The main hoax vidmaker,Sibrel,is a taxi driver.No offence to taxi drivers but is this relevant expertise? Is it likely he`s spotted "errors" missed by 1000s of experts for 40 years?.I`m no fan of the current form of capitalism but it`s not a matter of propaganda,just evidence.It`s occams razor.
swfcocs1 6 months ago
@swfcocs1 You're asking questions that are parochial , irrelevant and loaded.
The evidence put forth by NASA must be viewed with an understanding in equity with bias and geopolitics removed from the equation.
Has NASA put forth evidence that is conclusive beyond a doubt that their position on the Apollo program is authentic?
I do not believe they have.
mlmr11 6 months ago
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msohailawan 7 months ago
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msohailawan 7 months ago
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lol! The Apollo so called "astronauts" Bean and Gernan don't know anything about the radiations belts when asked in 2002.
The reason is because these two fags never went anywhere near to the radiation belts.
watch?v=TgmGZlyZObE
potrodsas 7 months ago
Man, was Kaysing & Rene' really that stupid that they didn't know the Van Allen's are made of alpha & beta rad' and you can block α and ß radiation with small amount of aluminum?
Obviously Sibrel is stupid enough.
No wonder the hoax-nuts believ, they saw this "show" in 2001 and were gullible enough to believe this was based on real science...LOL
Tweekerhead 7 months ago
Maybe a death-bed confesion from an insider would disclose the truth but then the reporter would be in great danger. Maybe are these insiders threathened with murder and the murder of their families that nobody dear to speak out...I always must think about people like Stanley Kubrick...suckered in and cursed for life.....but tried to redeem himself with his movies.
Za7a7aZ 7 months ago
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" Regarding the Apollo missions I'm NOT sure these men walked on the Moon" says Mr B.O' Leary the NASA scientist who was a scientific adviser of the Apollo program and astronaut himself.
watch?v=lOyYZIW0zvY
potrodsas 7 months ago
Bart Sibrel....EPIC TOOL
sixtiksix 7 months ago
NASA DRIVES TRAINS INTO YOUR CAR!! OMG!!! NASA YOU EVIL TRAIN DRIVING BASTARDS!!!
flcl64 7 months ago
There is a certain idiot (blocked) that think they know what they are talking about when infact the more they spout their shit for everyone to see the more they expose themself as a nasa cock-sucker and self-proclaimed expert. A dickhead indeed.
Chev4206 7 months ago
@Chev4206
We're going to believe a nasa "expert" before we believe a McDs conspiratard like you. Just saying ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 7 months ago
@Chev4206
And why are you dumb enough to think you "block" someone on a movie that isnt yours? They can respond to your retarded newb rambles anytime they please ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 7 months ago
Very interesting
MikaelsMusic 7 months ago
What a load of crap. There were thousands of Apollo critics. This stuff makes me laugh, especilaay the earnestness of these idiots.
DrTWG 8 months ago
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NASA claims 27 of its people went to the Moon well back in the technological antiquity in the middle of the last century.According to the claim 3 people each time in 9 missions.Each mission lasted about 10 days so the total of human present in outer space(allegedly)was about 90 days.All of these people were trained in photography and they had a total of about 60 still photo and video cameras with unlimited film.But guess what.Not one of the the 32,000 images they returned containing any stars
potrodsas 8 months ago
The truth revealed
watch?v=BnKlHgDBjUI
MickeyMouseApollo 8 months ago
@MickeyMouseApollo
Ten out of ten conspiracy nerds agree! ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
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AS 11 37 55 28 -This photograph reveals more than any other crook Armstrong is a cross-eyed person -no way to pass a medical test for an astronaut in a million years.
potrodsas 8 months ago
holy shit!!!! all my life ive believed LIES!!!!!!
markvijit 8 months ago
@markvijit that true man thats true
do you now that nasa is controll only by jews and just jews so be aware of all there conspiracies
msohailawan 8 months ago
@msohailawan
"jew?" uh oh. So not only are you a flaming conspiracy nerd, but you're a pathetic bigot too. Pitiful.
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
@msohailawan Wow,another anti-semitic conspiracy theorist.What is it with you fuckwits and the Jews?
swfcocs1 8 months ago
@swfcocs1 It's an annoying constant.....like traffic lights....it's a part of life....
sixtiksix 7 months ago
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cbreeze137 8 months ago
@cbreeze137
Fact 1: Van Allen is full of radioactive particles.
Fact 2: Radioactive particles can be blocked by plastic. Thats first year rudimentary radiation safety taught in every OSHA and HAZMAT training course in the world. Just like the ones you have personally NEVER had ;)
So yes, I would volunteer. Because its the Rad Techs like me who get to do exciting stuff like that, inside of whining online about what you're a dumb newb in, like you. Leave science to the adults sonny ;)
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse The typical average dose for a person
is about 360 mrems per year, or 0.0036 Sv, which is a small dose. However, International Standards allow exposure to as much as 5,000 mrems (0.05 Sv) a year for those who work with and around radioactive material. Apollo 14 (9-day mission to the Moon): 11.4 mSv. which is 0.01 Sv, and this is below the allowed dose. But Other sources give different amounts of radiation on the Moon, which are much higher.
zakmatew 8 months ago
@zakmatew
Average dose is going upward every year due to increase in medical procedures. Its 600 mrem now. But you're right that the 9 day mission gave them well below the allowed limits. I still want to know what the dose rate is on the moon's surface, no fear-mongering attached.
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse Every source which was discussing the dose rate on the moon surface used information from NASA. In this case NASA is the accused one and information coming from it should be disregarded. We have to see if the Russians have done some research on this and perhaps use their data.
zakmatew 8 months ago
@zakmatew
"disregarded" is a blatant application of guilty until proven innocent and you know it. Its assuming the very thing you're trying to prove and violates every rule of adult debate. You DO NOT go around saying "I ACCUSE you of being a child molester and its up to you to prove me wrong." 100% bogus and wrong.
Bottom line, you have no data whatsoever for real dose rates on the moon. Therefore just inventing fake numbers "AUGH WE'RE GONNA DIE!" is completely irresponsible.
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
@zakmatew
"baldly exposed to cosmic rays and solar flares, and some of that radiation is very hard to stop with shielding. "
Solar flares and the solar wind is 88% particles, blockable with plastic. Only gamma and xray need lead, but they are also the weakest kinds, having a mere 1/20th the strength of alpha and beta. You see how this goes.
"very hard to shield" is the usual wishy-washiness that feeds "RADIATION WE"RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!" We know exactly how to shield. No fear-mongering
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
@SpreadingtheMuse Inventing numbers? I got the numbers from NASA website. I am not inventing anything. Also, I am not trying to prove anything. I leave people like you to believe in whatever they want. You can even use the data about the Moon provided by the Apollo missions. The only problem is that it is not accurate....I am not going to argue with you, and other believers. I prefer to know rather than believe. At this point I am not convinced that they went to the moon due to some anomalies...
zakmatew 8 months ago
@zakmatew
I havent seen ANY numbers for the moons surface. You just admitted no one knows what they are. But you still want to assume the absolute worst with no analytical evidence. "To know rather than believe" is exactly what hoax pushers DONT do. They pick a side and then cherry pick all evidence to fit. My side supports the "know," as we're the ones who provide facts on radiation instead of saying "RADIATION WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" I work as a Radiological Tech, I know my subject.
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
@zakmatew
There is no "anomaly" you can mention that has any scientific validity. The "hoax" is not pushed by any scientist or expert of any kind. All evidence is based in ignorance or illiteracy in the subject matter. As a physicist myself I've seen all the evidence and know exactly how stupid all of it is. I've told you that before.
There is no evidence that hasnt been refuted.
SpreadingtheMuse 8 months ago
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Chev4206 7 months ago
Only Chuck Norris can get to the moon
khunopie 8 months ago
The damn moon landing never happened.....Because you Americans never actually went there to begin with.
TOLTECAAZTECA 9 months ago 2
We didn't land on the moon.
AndyHarglesis 9 months ago