30 Battlecruisers vs 30 Carriers

[Fear1908]

good ole sc1 days when carriers were actually the legit protoss iconic unit... they were suppose to be strong, it was a protoss icon... now its more shit, and they removing it from heart of the swarm, bs :/

[zoolburr]

Breaking Benjamin sucks Dick

[351321351321]

if you look closely, carriers had 111 upgrades also, and battlecruisers had none

[PcostaDaddy]

I think its safe to say, which ever unit was focusing firing / micro'd would have won

[atomicf4rt]

I hate starcraft 1 !!

[deyndel]

@atomicf4rt How the fuck can you like SC2 but not SC1? Starcraft helped start the legacy Blizzard has today.

[TheRtsKing13]

ha sc1 when battlecruisers were good

[Gr33dy77]

yes the good old sc1 days...... when carriers looked like flying potatoes

[tonibiruta]

@Gr33dy77 haha so true

[dilmon97]

the old days

[lorddziub]

fully ubgarded bc dystroy 2 fully ubgarded carriers

[studentofthegospel]

Feedback has to be assumed...

[TheApocalypseKitty]

Well carriers can outrange and outmove battlecruisers also can attack while moving so why not do that

[Foxstab]

Carriers had poor control. Also, Yamato cannon. Actually, it's much easier and faster for BCs to destroy all the fighter drones than take down the carriers. Those lasers, unlike the weaksauce shite in SC2, were RAD power MAD.

[GoombaDaddy]

@Foxstab no. 30 carriers = 240 interceptors. so no, much better to target carriers. agree on poor control though

[orgx619]

lo malo es ke los portanaves o carries depeden mucho osea los q disparan de´penden dde los carriers si este es eliiminaod automaticamene esttos tambien

[zirocrazy]

@orgx619 se supone que asi tiene que ser puesto que el carrier es mas bien una nave de asalto plaetaria jamas entra en atake directo para eso son los interceptores, el carrier es la nave nodriza de los interceptores sin el carrier los interceptores no tienen energia para seguir combatiendo.

[Anonymous011ful]

what music did you use i want it?

[j4im3g0nz4l3zTGK26]

@Anonymous011ful breaking benjamin- Diary of Jane

[amineaiffa]

but in actual sc games, you always have arbitors that stasis half your bc fleet. Even with emp, they always seem to manage a stasis. And stasis completely stops a yamato charge up.

[x20mega]

@amineaiffa lol without yamato cannons bc still wins.

[Anonymous011ful]

battle cruisers will not win because carriers have 2 of each timg i think like armoo and plasma shild carries would have won without yammaja gun

[SC2james]

Marines still counter that.....

[WoWfan924]

@SC2james FUCK MARINES!!!

[kyzer0234]

even without yamato the battlecruiser wins

[WoWfan924]

@kyzer0234 no the carriers were even better in BW compare to SC2, while BC hasnt change, the bc perhaps were better in sc2, the carriers would win without yamato

[vaporizeru]

@WoWfan924 It will be very close, but BCs still win without yamatos with proper micro. With Yamatos you just steamroll. Inb4 Terran imba sience 1998!

[suckieduckie]

@WoWfan924 carriers own BC's so bad in SC 2

[WoWfan924]

@suckieduckie are u fucking kidding me? bcs wins with 50% hp vs carriers so u can gth, send me a video then if u think so,,, and beside who gives a shit anyway about those sucky units now days when they are never used

[nyarlathotep4]

@kyzer0234 yes!!

[HellAxcesConection]

Terran rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MinhyungKim1234]

i knew the mutas would win... its so obvious

[deSolAxe]

you can see how skill is important here...

if the one controlling carriers made them stick together and slowly retreat so they'd be just outside BC's range while interceptors still continued to attack, he might have won... also using all of them to attack 1 BC at a time might have been good idea...

[NOVA2509]

@deSolAxe Yea but remember that in SC 1 you can only control out of 12 max unit in a time.

[deSolAxe]

@NOVA2509 Yea, I didn't play SC2 that much, so I'm counting on that... but it's just 30 units, you can put that into 3 groups and make shortcuts... this amount still isn't something that would be that hard to control...

[DJPetomatick]

@deSolAxe At the same time, a skilled player would have used two yamatos on 50% of the carriers, leaving them with no more than 10 % of their health, or even killing them instantly

[deSolAxe]

@DJPetomatick yeah, 2 yamato shots should destroy carrier... (if fired at the same time, lags would allow shields to restore) but if we're going to talk about this... we might as well say that if either side made all units stick together so it would be hard to select multiple targets, results might differ, but generally I think that BC have advantage no matter how smart protoss would be, so the only option would be to exploit terran's mistakes

[GoombaDaddy]

@deSolAxe we need to see these vids with people controlling both sides. the BC commander can  manage his fleet too; using two at a time to yamato carriers, pulling his ships back, etc.

[ClusiveC]

@deSolAxe thats just bad strategy. he should go back to playing black ops.

[elchapetas]

@deSolAxe nah yamato cannon quickly reduces you to 15 carriers with good micro, if you apply that strategy (which also needs intense micro), 30 battlecruisers can quickly decimate all your interceptors with no major loss

[elchapetas]

@deSolAxe also you need to stack together for this to apply, the bc fleet can be divided in 2 to sorround the carriers

[Nocturnal1508]

god song lol



[barkerfmx]

Battle Cruisers Beat EVERYTHING! lol

[StarGin1]

No se ni para que se quejan. desde StarCraft 1 la flota de los terran ha sido la más fuerte

[Omegax9000]

Real life carriers

[ThemanonlyknownasTom]

I miss the old days when Terran were Overpowered as shit.

[oXNOCHANCEXo]

@ThemanonlyknownasTom implying they aren't still overpowered

[paladiumization]

Hmm..... I think the batelcruisers are more than the carriers cuz the carrier is more powerfull than the battlecruiser

[Bloodian]

I'll agree Yamato gives the edge to the Battlecruiser, however the BCS were focus-firing whereas the Carriers were just on auto-attack. The outcome would've most likely been the same, but at the very least the BCs wouldn't of walked away with 1/2 their army.

[Gatecrusherify]

lol the flack troppers owns both :P

[Benjaminy2k]

Yeah, Battlecruisers are in fact a counter to carriers. The carrier is more for fighting smaller enemies/buildings than for fighting as equals with big scary things.

[19Eden91]

@Benjaminy2k

that is because what fight is not the carriers but small ships

[hypotherima1]

focus fire dumbhead

also at the end half were not doing nothing

[SovietMan1000]

BC will win without carriers micro, and carriers win with micro

[Superaccel]

@SovietMan1000 Yamato Cannon says carriers can shove their micro up their asses =D

[yddon2]

and...........MUTE!!

[x0TehGameStation0x]

Zerg op. no srsly. scourge=rape

[Ur0pinionDoesntCount]

@x0TehGameStation0x you clearly don't know shit about starcraft then

[x0TehGameStation0x]

@Ur0pinionDoesntCount whats that you made a battlecruiser/guardian/carrier­? well i spent 200 minerals on sniping it. clearly i do.

[Ur0pinionDoesntCount]

@x0TehGameStation0x No i made a mass medic/marine/tank/science vessel force against you, have fun with your scourages though....

[FrostiNLD]

carriers look like kirov dropships from red alert :D

[ZowolfX]

@FrostiNLD More like Kirovs are like Carriers since Starcraft was out before Red Alert 2 and 3 and Red Alert 1 never had those Kirov ships. Although I think they don't look anything alike.

[FrostiNLD]

@ZowolfX RA2 is since 2000 and starcraft is since 2001 ;P

[ZowolfX]

@FrostiNLD Actually the game has been out since 1998, if you don't believe me look it up. Red Alert 2 was only out since 2000.

[The3rdStrikeIsOnYou]

they're called "Battlecrusier" for a reason...

[Braxium1]

of course bcs.

[monoko258]

if both use micro battlecrusier wins anyway

[alfayomega777]

lol, thats stupid, of u only attack without micro, of course the battlecrusier win, but if u use micro the carriers win, fuc..... noob.

[jojuae]

Suddenly....A WAVE OF SCOURGES RAPES YOU ALL!

LIVE FOR THE SWARM!

-Jojuae

[andreasShadowClaw]

BC's suck in BroodWar xD

[Azzona]

Hehe im grunde Hätt der Tos alles auf ein Ziel gefokust hätte er seine changsen auf 50% erhöhen können Mitn Arbeiter Schiff hätte er seine chagnsen um 100% erhöht

[shadowhunter369]

if you focus fire you win :D

[CaptainCrunchOwns]

yamato canon kinda destroys the balance.

[Jarekx2007]

@CaptainCrunchOwns carriers have the 8 interceptor upgrade too

[MrAwsome514]

@CaptainCrunchOwns Yea... it only takes 3 shots from a yamato cannon to kill a carrier so 10 of those carriers should have gone down quick. ofcourse that is if the battlecruisers had used their yamato cannons.

[DeMishMIsh]

@CaptainCrunchOwns also,the battlecrusiers can like 1 or 2 shot interceptors,leaving the carriers without attacking ability....

[Braxium1]

@DeMishMIsh that will take a long time though :D

[DeMishMIsh]

@Braxium1 in SC1 yes,since the BC have a pretty low DPS....but in sc2 it wouldnt be much of a problem...

[vaporizeru]

@CaptainCrunchOwns Yea, but it's like saying: making 8 interceptors ruins the balance also. Inb4 Terran more micro intensive sience 1998!

[6DanielZXC]

Dang it my money was on Crusiers : (

[Haris1206]

Whats the song of this video?

[ZimTheKiller08]

@Haris1206 The Diary of Jane, by Breaking Benjamin

[jeancarlogiraldo]

Terran rulez

[BOBtheGREATEREST]

@projectlevydelta But the video would have been pointless if it was just a minute and a half of BCs herpin' and derpin'.

No one wants to see that.

[Silverknite1]

Yamato those interceptors!

[BOBtheGREATEREST]

@projectlevydelta Letting the Cruisers idiotically fire at the interceptors is not fair terms.

I don't think there is a way to do this fight fairly. Unless both sides are force firing.

[BOBtheGREATEREST]

@projectlevydelta Rigged?

It wouldn't have been fair otherwise.

[BOBtheGREATEREST]

This outcome was not a surprise.

[josephtan1818]

more like a space battleship yamato pwnage, a shock cannon main gun turret and a most feared wave motion gun capable of vaporizing weak unit

[2909ASESINOo]

it's over 9000 interceptors

[Dirtyyellowboi]

if carriers were even noobislyh microed they wuda won... just sayin

[M4gl4d]

Wow I really thought the carriers would own

[xnbentari]

sc1 rapes sc2

just like carriest rape battle cruisers

cruisers are such a useless unit, they only won in this because they were upped % had energy for yomato and controlled

[Arturas123ish]

Is this Starcraft 1? I hope he knows no one plays that anymore......

[jaws407]

@Arturas123ish go on iccup or any other private server. People still play SC1 way more than you know. Not to mention there is still pro-league of it. So do your research before you say that statement. Just an fyi.

[BeatsByWeight]

yamato cannons pwn carriers... (auto correct wanted me to spell it "tomato" cannons)

[IchiJewSan]

Honestly even playing starcraft 2 many many times. Starcraft 1 gives me that space war feeling more.

[bumblebumz]

@IchiJewSan I couldn't agree more, the maps felt like they were truly alien. not straight from WoW..

[IchiJewSan]

@bumblebumz Yeah and the units have their own classical alien type looks. While in starcraft 2 they just look decent.

[greataceofspades]

old school..respect!

[CHRLPTRSN]

@projectlevydelta If focus fire is most effecient, then that is what you can expect to be used. BCs are a unit in a game - they do what they are told, so to say that "they would never do that" is silly.

If you're talking about yamato cannon, then that is an upgrade. If that should not be there, then neither should the extra intercepters for carriers.

BC>Carrier, as the video has just shown.

[KuroPhantonHive]

epic!! , good video

[vuk911]

@projectlevydelta God damn,how stupid you have to be to stop playing the best game ever (fact) for something that just looks better??? It`s like saying you can`t play counter-strike anymore because you tried some stupid 15GB FPS that has better graphics than real life... P.S. Brood War has the best graphics ever when it comes to how graphics effect the game play. Even in 200 vs 200 supply battles you can see every unit clearly.

[Azsunes]

@vuk911 donno sc1 and sc2 have pretty much the same story line but in terms of game play i don't think there that close sc2 is alot easier for lower apm players where as sc1 u had to have a really high apm to even make it look like u have constant troops coming into battle sorta like a whole new game just borrowing from an older game so alot of the newer gamers that are use to slower paced games like wow and such can still feel like they can play it decently

[tropsmoo]

@vuk911 fact based on what? money returned to blizz? monetary reward to players in tournaments? overall popularity on a global scale? bottom line is, most gaming companies have to dumb down games nowadays bc they are trying to make gaming a more user friendly... bc that way gaming because more widespread and... they make more money. its a business

[vuk911]

@tropsmoo Did you read your comment before you posted it? Money return? Rewards? It`s better because the one and the only thing that matters is 10x better in BW: GAMEPLAY. Face it,SC2 is a game made just to look nice and to be easy to play for a WoW noob or someone like that.

[tropsmoo]

@vuk911 thats how u judge ur games, and thats good. dont get worked up if other ppl judge games differently, i was just trying to point out that what u think is most important in games is not something every1 else is gonna think. if sc2 is so easy go rake in the easy money at GSL... sc2 is a competitive rts with very good game mechanics... i dont understand how u would think less of sc2 gameplay just bc it has good graphics also

[DanceNaga]

@vuk911 ''Best game ever (fact)'' i like Starcraft 1 more than 2, sure, but 1 can go fuck itself for the God of War series. Fact.

[standforkorn]

@projectlevydelta

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

I have to disagree on SC2 being better. But that's a matter of opinion, so I respect that.

[Squishymcpwn]

Well, the war between carriers and cruisers kinda depends on if someone micromanages the bcs, since the majority of the time they hit the interceptors. If the cruisers keep building more interceptors and the bcs are like WTF IT DOESN'T END then they're fucked

[jhcmuzic]

ur supposed to do running away micro with carriers....

[MEGALOQUENDO]

Battlecruiser operational

[jbmfreak2008]

Terran OP

[killacam876]

If you let terran get bc+get yamato+ get enough energy to let all bc's use it... You fucked up

[kickingchimpanzze]

I have both SC1 and SC2 and I play SC2 well but idk how to play SC1... lol

[standforkorn]

What's up with the dislikes? This is waay better than SC2 would be.

[Picotesla]

i hate ur micro

[Magnifide111]

cool song and epic battle but try it on SC2

[llVIU]

fail fail fail, no upgrades no yamato gun, doesn't even know how to properly attack 1 at a time

[Warcraft3fan123]

So, BCs can Yamato, but Carriers can't focus-fire? Not only that, those were YOUR units. Don't try to bias a unit, you asshole.

[Artoo64]

@Warcraft3fan123 In a battle BCs vs. Carriers, BCs still do win without Yamato because the armor from BCs devastate the damage from Interceptors. If each round of 8 interceptors should be doing 8 * 9 = 72 damage fully upgraded, they are only doing 8 * 3 = 24 damage to fully upgraded Battlecruisers.  Regardless, Carriers are seen in the TvP matchup and BCs are not because Psionic Storm, Stasis Field, and Mind Control make Battlecruisers useless.

[hybridkamilos]

with yamato bcs will kick ass

[GoldenWoozie]

Thumbs up if Starcraft 1 is LEGIT AS FUCK

[TrozKhaoz]

Yamato Gun > Interceptors

[jae0314665]

im just suprised his computer didn't lag... -_-

[ShankayLoveLadyL]

SpokyGhost is actually right, and I in sc2 only the costs and moving speed of a battlecruiser makes them not to be the best units over the game, but anyways... In sc2 they turned up in a unit a little overpowered.

[havoc1206]

bad unit control... stupid vid

[BenPaquet]

the battlecruisers always won against carriers... why? Yamato cannon. Period.

[Dalaverenas]

This is weird to look at after play sc2 for forever...

[brocklandersfuckyea]

carriers would have won if they were focused on one cruiser at a time

[LovePills1992]

Why does this have so many dislikes? Is it all about this isn't SC2?

[Craziguy33]

Good music

[useurname123]

i feel like watching sins of a solar empire

[SpOoOokyGhost]

sadly, bcs now lose to carriers in SC2.

[Yangyang428]

@SpOoOokyGhost

you're wrong, there's another youtube video online which show bcs pwning carriers in sc2

[BadatStuff]

@SpOoOokyGhost Sorry but you're wrong

1v1 even without Yamato, if both have the same number of upgrades, BC can decimate a Carrier. In SC1 it was a much closer fight but in SC2 the BC wins easy

[FroSnFlames]

The battlecruisers can't be extremely charged up to have like 3 blasts from all of them

[GamerSh0rtY]

I miss sc1 ;(

[Yangyang428]

Lol, the Carriers advancing position was much better than the Battlecruisers, allowing them to start attacking faster, about one-third of the BCs were still coming in when all the Carriers were attacking, but yeah Battlecruisers win : )

[darkshadows1994]

nice music :D bb love it and nice vid

[godmaxer]

the battlecruisers did micro....

[LORENSSIOK]

and the carriers had upgrades!

[qud1056]

yeah! this is the battlecruisers's power! power! power! ha!

[MaeLSTRoM1997]

both battle cruisers and carriers should NOT be controlled because if you control, one reaper could kill like ten of no leg upgraded zealots. The basic rule of something vs something is, you must always press 'a' and click behind the enemy so they can fight freely :P

[Pigroota]

@MaeLSTRoM1997 It wouldn't matter, the BC's would take out the interceptors quickly then it would be a cruise to victory. See what I did there? LoL

[ClockorkBass]

The carrier is not a battleship, it's a support unit.

[gn5522]

fuking unfair this is fail

[ChristianBenetti]

next time,

try having the battlecruisers use no yamato cannons

[teranspecialist]

@ChristianBenetti You do realize that the carriers should win that easily.

Carriers have a range of 8. And interceptors will remain out and seek targets as long as the carrier is still range 12 from it.

Compare this to the BC which has a range of 6!

The carrier has a faster movement speed then the BC. So for the battle to be favorable in any way shape or form for the BC's they must have yamato.

[CommanderTyphoon]

yeah but the cruisers cost more supply, i would have thought if you equal the supply between them, it would be a fair fight

[gandalfgrey5]

not that surprising that the cruisers won. they're built to kill units with high hp ie the carriers while carriers are built to handle alot of lower hp units at once. one carrier can kill a small army of marines or hydralisks on it's own easily but they just don't have enough damage output to kill a battlecruiser without substantial backup.

[awsumpersun321]

@gandalfgrey5 kind of, but the main reason the carriers lost is because the battlecruisers ave high armor (3) vs the low damage of intercepters (6) so the carriers firepower was literally cut in half

[iloveariel98]

What the heck this is the old one...

[jacky15467]

lol,i cant believe that Carrier lose Battlecruiser???@.@!?

[Yakuza2211]

OV teran we always...

[Warcraft3fan123]

Unfair...

Why should battlecruisers use their yamatos while carriers cannot focus fire?

[Thoomash1]

thumbs up if you tought this was sc2

[Zealant]

@Thoomash1 thumbs down son

[Negnuks]

@Thoomash1 Seriously those who thought this was Starcraft 2 are really nabbs and dont now so much about the game.

[dddddddddddd71]

terran rules

[48tank]

Gay

[LiezAllLiez]

Hm... how about 200 marines vs 200 pop cap worth of carriers... who wins this? Nobody - marines will shoot down interceptors and carriers will just run away, trying to rebuild their fleet.

[Mihnea90Teo]

MINERALS FIELDS , WASTED ! ! !

[superriaper92]

music?



[ItsBrandonTEEE]

wouldnt battlecruisers win anyhow because they used yamato cannon straight off the beginning.

[Ednymion]

Now someone try this in SC2! just for good ol times

[RavenKitsune0]

Speaking of Carriers Vs. Battlecrusiers,

One time I was about to "Yamato" a Carrier... I clicked the interceptor instead.... lets just say it ended very baddly.... especially when a dragoon showed up...

[warhead2121]

the carrier sucks against the BC's unless they can focus fire and BC's suck against carriers unless they acturally shoot at the carrier and not the hundreds of intercepters moving around!!!!