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  • Monty- "If we are attacked, There will be no retreat! If we cannot stay here alive, Then we shall stay here dead!". Monty was the man who broke Rommel and sent the Axis forces in N.Africa into mutiny, It was the end of the Axis campains there generals in Africa,Russia were betraying orders, El Alamein, Stalingrad the turning point of the war.

  • Japanese soldiers would also jump into your foxhole at night and try to slit your throat. So you get the idea you dont want to sleep. The Germans would not play the sick min-games that the Japanese would. And the Japanese would torture British, American, and Phillipino P.O.W.s. For you to call that war a joke gets my blood boiling.

  • @UStheFA you need to stop fighting battles on the internet and get a life.

  • @UStheFA The Imperial Japanese were insane by western standards, but there's no denying they were some of the greatest fighters off ww2 because of this "insanity"

  • @Tommyfungun: The tommy gun. (Thompson) The Americans in the pacific were a joke? You trying to sound educated is a joke. The war in the pacific was fucking brutal. The Japanese would fight to the death and would do suicidal charges. You have no idea how many lives were lost in the pacific. Have you ever heard of the battle of Okinawa asshole? That was our bloodiest battle that made up drop the A-Bomb. Ever hear of kami-kazis? No? Look up Englands role in the pacific. Japanese kicked their ass.

  • @UStheFA Because you have a larger army than us. Why? You have a larger population than us. You have more land. It is a joke when you try to act as if Britain wasn't trying hard enough, when we have a small population in comparison to you. Absurd.

  • When Monty did beat Rommel, he used massed charges at long ranging German guns, oooo, with a little left hook. HE SUCKED! He was a frontal assault type of General in the teeth of German field-craft. MASTER OF FRONTAL ASSAULTS, he was a plotter (wouldnt move until he had more of everything than Rommel), a conservative who would not move until all his ducks where lined up! ...I run out of breath and typying ability going on about this guy!

  • Montgomery was a 2nd tier general compared to Rommel. Montgomery knew Rommel's ENTIRE Order of Battle in every battle he engaged Rommel from British Intelligence which broke nearly all of the German's Enigma Machine Army Codes. While Rommel's Army Intelligence did often break British Army codes, Rommel's awareness of Montgomery's plans was nowhere near as thorough as Montgomery's awareness of Rommel's plans. Montgomery's "genius" is pure crap. INTELLIGENCE .. INTELLIGENCE ... INTELLIGENCE

  • @roadwarrior3 Sorry but using intelligence to good effect is a sign of a good commander and not something Monty can be criticized or belittled for.

    Besides which, by your argument I can belittle Rommel's victories in Sonnenblume or at Gazala because he had better intelligence than the British at the time - because the Italian's were intercepting British Radio transmissions & the detailed reports an US liason officer with the 8th Army was sending to Washington were being intercepted by the Axis.

  • didnt know he had a speech impediment

  • Oh dear Monty, sort your beret out chap, you're a Field Marshal. Front rim just above the brow, beret slanted up so back rim is resting on the back top of the head. Right side is pushed down over the ear. It really is just basic soldiering. A good and proper beret is the only thing that separates us from the animals and the French.

  • my grandad was in the 8th army in north africa but its a shame i never got to meet him he died before i was born.. R.I.P grandad and all others that fell in the world wars

  • my fravourite commanders are rommel walther model patton and montegomery:)

  • This reaction came from the Netherlands (dec. 5th, 2010): Very memorable speech of a great figure in history. His typical voice, the short sentences, his optimistic views, the down-grading of the problems (and the enemy) worked as a shot of adrenalin for the soldiers. And had thundering success. Such a speech is (more than 70 years later) a fine example of how to inspire others, in getting a difficult task done successful. I like Great Britain. Good work to place this video on the internet.

  • Good old Monty

  • Montgomery was Anglo/Irish. After the war the German high command said - Montgomery was the only general on all sides to win all of his battles, Arnhem was part of a battle the battle main was still won. Rommel was good but he was no Heinz Guderian, without doubt the best of the German commanders.

  • When I hear his hauty upper class accent and supercilious attitude, I'm glad I wasn't one of the poor buggers whom he sent to his death. Give me Rommel any day

  • @ikorodu0807 sooo, instead of a great, tactical genius, you would rather have a Nazi General who was also from an upper class background?

  • @lankinator24 Fact No. 1 : Erwin Rommel was never a member of the NSDAP and cannot be called a "Nazi" General. Fact No.2 : Because of his involvement in the 20 July Plot against Hitler he was forced to commit suicide to avoid a Court Martial.

    Fact No. 3 : His Father was a mere School Teacher and he was not a member of the Aristocracy or "Upper Class" . Fact No. 4: Montgomery's sucess was due to superior manpower and material and not to any "Tactical genius.

  • @ikorodu0807 you ignorant fool he fought in the trenches he knew more than anyman the cost of life during battles he was a cautious general and predicted the exact casulty rate for el alamien...he planned overlord and guessed d day plus 90 days they would be ath the rhine he was out by one day.........You need to understand all british officers in the good ol days were of the aristocracy but dont give them to much shit them fuckers are wat won us two world wars you turd

  • When I listen to his hauty upper class accent and supercilious attitude, I'm glad I wasn't one of the poor buggers whom he sent to their death. Give me Rommel any day !

  • 3 best generals of the war. Monty,rommel,and best for last "old blood and guts"!!!

  • 11nytram11 is right -- Monty pushed forward not like the other generals who made Winnie crazy by constantly surrendering or falling back. Revisionist correction #1. Also -- the Germans were not just "doing their job" like the other revisionist theory goes... they were murdering millions of civilians including the Jews in the towns and in their death camps -- with the flag waving approval of the German people. Should have wiped Germany off the face of the earth for what they did 1916--1945.

  • Yes, he might have a nice accent, sounds like south, can't tell east or west, but easily London area. Either way, not a very memorable voice is it? Rommel had a more impressive voice. But, even in his real voice Patton was more memorable

  • I agree with you... Patton's voice was more memorable... But I would any day chose Montgomery over any other allied general in WWII... And Rommel over any other Axis general...

  • @xKCBEx Fuck off, America has never produced anything other than mediocre generals. You just like to think you have produced great military heroes. Everyone knows Eisenhower took credit for Montgomery's D-day plan, which worked spectacuarly.

  • @TheLiberalKnight: How about Monty's brilliant plan for Operation Market Garden which worked great? I dont know why you guys look up to Monty, he sucked! He thought the US couldnt even fight until Patton BEAT him to his main objective in Italy and made him look like a FOOL! Patton was way more aggresive and actualy saw what was going on in a battle. Monty hide miles behind his lines and did not make a move until he knew he had superior numbers. Not to mention Monty was almost fired in WW2.

  • @UStheFA Monty had some spectacular fails but the ones he got right he got very right. He stopped Rommell, who had up to that point been considered invincible, from taking British African territories or India. Patton was a decent general, but of course America is shit at producing good generals, so you always overblow his reptuation, as if he is the second coming of Christ or something. Monty planned D-day which turned out to be a massive success, E. Baldy took the credit for it. As usual.

  • @TheLiberalKnight: Saved the day at Bastogne and beat Monty in the race in Sicily. Patton was heading across in West France on the way to Bastogne and got their quickly and broke the seige in the bulge. How about present day General Patreaus who did a good job on slowing down the war in Iraq. Norman Schwortzkopf The first commander in the first Gulf War. MaCarthur, the one who saved the British's asses from the Japanese. US always has good Generals.

  • @UStheFA I don't know why the Yanks keep going on about Market Garden..While Arnham fell far short of expectations it wasn't the total defeat that some seem to think it was, it advanced the Front in the sector by around 90 miles and inflicted around 32,000 casualties on the Germans in exchange for 17,000 Allied casualties.

    In comparision the Battle of Hurtgen Forest cost the Yanks around 33,000 casualties in exchange for 28,000 German casualties and only gained a few miles of forest.

  • British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed that Munich agreement in 1938. He grovelled to Hitler when he did this to appease him. Churchill attacked this agreement. Chamberlain sold out Czechoslavakia who had the best Czech army in all of Europe. If it were not for the United States and Churchill, Britain would have fallen to Germany.

  • But Britain fought "alone" the first years... Don't forget that USA initially didn't want to get involved in a new European war...

  • I hear you. Lessons learned, though. When a bully threatens you for your lunch money, say no. Because chances are he's gonna kick your ass anyways. That Munich agreement should never have been signed because Hitler took Czechloslavakia anyhow. Hitler was a bully. Like Stalin and every other dictator.

  • I agree with you... The Munich agreement should never have been signed...

  • M55q: Sometimes I believe people have found it conveinient to forget what history tells us is right. I believe Chamberlain was a good man in TRYING to avoid war. People forget this. I believe he died of cancer after 6 months of this agreement being signed. It would be a challenging position to be in given the circumstances. However, what would peace be like if WE did not trust our neighbors? Sort of a two way street. 'Speak softly, but carry a big stick".

  • Well, If history has taught us anything, it is not to trust our neighbours. But on the other hand we have to, in order to try to keep the peace... It is as you put it: "Speak softly, but carry a big stick". Chamberlain did what he meant was the best thing to do.. To avoid another great war in Europe... BUT Britain should have been prepared and ready for another war with Germany...

  • correction, its to disunite our neighbours, and make sure that the maneouvering takes place politically,with endless alleigances and inconclusive wars adressing the balance of power, British foreign policy for the last five hundred years

    firstly, the aftermath of war involves the occupation of a nation militarily, and its exploitation by the invading nation, British foreign policy was meant to defend the weak, not JUST make plans and empty threats

  • @7514328 Yeh maybe Munich should not have been signed with hindsight. However, don't forget that only 25 years before Europe had been engaged in another bloody war and wanted to avoid it. All very well Americans saying "shouldda done this" and "shouldda done that", but the USA was separated on either side by gigantic oceans and has never had to endure the brutal reality of modern warfare, and this affects their psyche to this day.

  • They arrived late for the First.

    They joined the Second halfway through.

    They're intent on starting the Third.

    Special Relationship forever.

  • @TheShorelessC the war was already over in the first world war britain had already won they arrived in the last couple of months left in the war.

  • @TheShorelessC glory boys!!

  • "Czechoslovakia who had the best Czech army in all of Europe" erm er... I don't know any other country who would have a Czech army , apart from Czechoslovakia :)

  • You know what he means ;)

  • I want to hear his speech about Operation "Market Garden". Montgomery could never beat Rommel.

  • I will see what I can do !

  • I'll have to bring you up on this "Montgomery could never beat Rommel" thing.

    The fact of the matter is that not only did Montgomery beat Rommel, Montgomery never lost to Rommel. Evem when they fought each other in France in 1940 when both were just divisional commanders and the Germans had all the advantages and Rommel didn't win.

    If you think Rommel was a better general then that's fine, it's an arguable point, but you cant claim that something that did happen, never happened.

  • Monty is my great grandfathers cousin, so I have studied about him for a while. What he did was he was basically taking all the troops that would fight and fall back, fight and fall back, and got all the troops from all the countries in North Africa, and made a big blockade, and pushed it forward, crushing Rommel.

  • Claude Auchinleck was the guy who fell back on the El Alamein position. He was the one who brought as many troops as he could to that place but he lost the confidence of Churchill.

    Monty arrived (after the death of Strafer Gott), viewed the Auk's plans and decreed them too confusing. Brought in his own plans and beat Rommel at Alam Halfa, then at El Alamein and never looked back.

    He was the one general of the war who never retreated or withdrew when in command of the whole army.

  • Monty reinforced his position at El Alamein in both manpower and material but, weirdly, people claim he's a bad general because he strengthened his position and thus his chances of victory.

    If there was one thing and one thing alone that proved Monty was, at the very least, a competant commander it was his decision to strengthen before he tried to attack and if there was one thing alone that proved Monty was a good general it was that he never allowed his enemy to dictate his battles.

  • indeed, but would withdrawal always be the wrong thing to do, look at Stalingrad, withdrawal is a part of strategy, albeit one which seems to have the air of defeat around it

  • That's true. Withdrawal is an important part of strategy but Mongomery planned his campaigns so that he did need it. Even risky operations like Market Garden were launched from a strong, viable defensible base and with a good reserve which ensured that even if the plan went wrong in execution he would never be forced to pull back from his original position and could, more often than not, advance to a position further forward. It was one of his great strengths.

  • indeed, Montgomery saw the plan was going to fail and trained his men to counter exactly what the germans were going to do, withdrawing from the Dyle line, but we have to give credit to Cunningham and O'Connor who managed to defeat the overwhelming italian forces in North Africa before Montgomery

  • He had the most delightful British accent. :D

  • Yes ;) He did indeed have a delightful British accent ;)

  • does any one know how to find images of solders in this army , my grandfather was a communcator his pictures we had were stolen would love to see some if thier are some on record. richard oscislawki

  • Hmm you could try:

    Brooks, Stephen . Montgomery and the Eighth army : a selection from the diaries, correspondence and other papers, 1942/1943 (Army Records Society, 7). 1991

  • Good speech. He was a good man.

  • He sure was...

  • GOOD STUFF!

  • Thank you...

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