Good night! I just read Heavy Liquid and then I come across your video...I tend to be more in line with PKD (Philip K. Dick) in this regard I think. It seems like language itself is an entity that exists outside of our direct control, replicating itself in order to satisfy some as yet undetermined goal. Interesting bit about the evolutionary necessity of language, as well. Why should we speak? Wow. Just...wow. Run for president friend.
@FluidBen Philip K. Dick is certainly amongst some of the influential thinkers who've shaped my thoughts on language, his exegesis is a dizzyingly bizarre and yet strange familiar. Well if I may, could one suggest that "language" (i.e. symbolic processes) are a form of universal "computation" building in complexity. A "simulation" simulating simulations. "Mind" minding minds. Ouroboros.
@HoloplexProductions I have to ask why are the initial simulation and mind in quotations? Are they allusions to the ultimately arbitrary nature of the terms? I ask because of the Ouroboros reference. Simulation being used to denote the unreality of reality, and likewise with Mind signifying the, hmm, only thought? . All experience being a sort of mass sense perception of realization. Language providing an auditory and, recently, orthographic means to that end?
@FluidBen Yes, I er on the side of caution, so much of language is metaphor and ultimately words are equivocal, they elicit different mental maps in each individual based on their learned associations. One could compare "dream" to "simulation" but that doesn't mean they are.exactly the same. Just as one may call all that is "universe" and another may call it "multiverse" etc. (cont)
@HoloplexProductions I don't consider the mind to be merely the object of thoughts, but rather an ongoing recursive reinstantiation that emerges ultimately as a neural (and social) process (see neural network).
Language being the meta-technology that enables epigenetic evolution, complexity builds on complexity. watch?v=R5Sk098TV7U
@HoloplexProductions I understand, and perhaps I should more clearly define my understanding of the concept of thought...which, now that this one thinks about it, is quite similar to what this one sees in your use of neural network. Spiritus Mundi.
I get ur perspective but language isnt a virus, it's emotions. Emotions get in the way of everyones everyday life. It's impossible to live without emotions although some have proven otherwise. One can't truly explain it but with our emotions we would be more progressive and we there wouldn't be any interference in anything we do. The world would achieve complete and utter peace. The problem is that if there was true peace the world would truly be a dull and boring place to live in.
@datguyoverdere12 I'm speaking poetically and playing on a meme which William Burruoughs started several decades ago. Emotions are certainly more decipherable than language, but not everyone is able to emote.
yep, I took my clothes off long ago and found there was no "shame" as the "dogma" suggests.
4 _ME_ Burroughs and his propensity to look to space was part of his escapist persona, in ALL his writings that I have read, which is few, he always gets to the POINT where he says 'fck IT' lets go into space. MYSELF I AM happy HERE on earth and have no desire to explore outer space and having spent much TIME in inner space find that invalid from a REAL LIFE perspective NOW.
@MrHerpesvirus Identity is always an ambiguous affair because one's sense of self is always in flux yet behind the scenes the brain creates the illusion of a continual unfolding of one self, . Thoughts are one's mistaken identity, thoughts are not grounded in being, as U.G. Krishnamurti might say "only the body is real". This is the crisis our species faces from our own self-alienation from the somatic, from embodiment (the feminine) that now we see the body as a lump of meat which...
@HoloplexProductions ...we carry around wishing to be freed from as the mind escapes into a posthuman substrate. The disavow of the body is a rejection of our own sensual experiences. By placing mind above and beyond the body it becomes a parasite which limits our perception to thoughts alone. If the schism isn't healed then the body will soon be discarded as "we" enter the machine.
As you know, I am not a fan of transhumanism. Technology I believe is child's play. Consciousness, energies, creationism...basically mind over matter. Not even that...more like "feeling energy" (morphic field) over matter. Love ya Miles! Your name rhymes with smiles too! Holly
Yes, I believe he said words are like viruses when he was discussing the torah and bible. However, sounds as in ACGT, which are the basis of sanskrit are also coded in our DNA. We are and have been programmed. It is interesting that you referred to the Archons, when looking at the world, one wonders if there are Archon beings behind the scene. The morphic field of consciousness is beyond techonology. There will never be a technology that can simulate the essence of TRUE consciousness.
@Blazenresearcher Hi Holly, I think what Burroughs was primarily alluding to when he compared words to viruses was the power that they have to control and manipulate others. I'm not sure what reference you are making when you mention the sounds being coded into our DNA and Sanskrit, it wasn't clear - "The God Code"? We are the "archons", there is only one motion of which everything is a part. We are organic technology and technology is inorganic nature...
@HoloplexProductions "Consciousness" in its "pure" form is a void of emptiness, it is like an unused CPU cycle of a computer or when yin and yang cancel each other out. +1 -1 = 0. Mind and matter are still dualistic concepts, there is only one substance of different gradiations. I think the mistake people make is in what they define as technology and what they define as nature. They are both evolutionary adaptions to a given environment...
@HoloplexProductions With transhumanism we are encoding the future anthropos of our species. They needn't be cold, heartless machines, but rather emotive technology, it depends entirely on the nature of embodiment of that species which we are becoming. Human destiny is for the stars and we cannot do that without enhancing our organism.
@HoloplexProductions Yes...like in the God Code....ACGT are the chemical DNA sequencing. What!!?? We are the Archons??? Ok...not sure how that works...I will stay tuned for possibly the next Vid!
@Blazenresearcher I'm not trying to rain on your parade Holly, but Braden's work in The God Code is pseudoscience and nothing more. However, I do acknowledge and agree that Sanskrit does seems to posses certain creative powers from the natural of the harmonics within the vowels. We are the archons... 1) Because mind is a simulation/imitation 2) There is no separation/identity is an illusion. Thanks for the hologram vid btw really nice. Smiles to you :)
The expansion of technology to form more effective communication around the time of the singularity would push human understanding and empathy into a whole new realm so many find difficult to see. As far as artificial intelligence reaching true human properties, why would we want it to? Instead of creating machines in our image we should better them. Rationally and "emotionally" intelligent. machines should not necessarily be modeled by the same concepts humans are.
Reminds me of the greedy dna concept or whatever it is called. Formation of language is the point at which we express past just our dna. I too believe we tend to limit the idea of language to linguistic ideas and some visual representations, but the web of communication is much more and can be expanded indefinitely. while technology breeds impersonal relationships now, it will easily expand to surpass even in person language. think how i think, see what I see, feel how i feel.
Very interesting perspectives on language!
tonyfalca 1 week ago
Good night! I just read Heavy Liquid and then I come across your video...I tend to be more in line with PKD (Philip K. Dick) in this regard I think. It seems like language itself is an entity that exists outside of our direct control, replicating itself in order to satisfy some as yet undetermined goal. Interesting bit about the evolutionary necessity of language, as well. Why should we speak? Wow. Just...wow. Run for president friend.
FluidBen 1 month ago
@FluidBen Philip K. Dick is certainly amongst some of the influential thinkers who've shaped my thoughts on language, his exegesis is a dizzyingly bizarre and yet strange familiar. Well if I may, could one suggest that "language" (i.e. symbolic processes) are a form of universal "computation" building in complexity. A "simulation" simulating simulations. "Mind" minding minds. Ouroboros.
HoloplexProductions 1 month ago
@HoloplexProductions I have to ask why are the initial simulation and mind in quotations? Are they allusions to the ultimately arbitrary nature of the terms? I ask because of the Ouroboros reference. Simulation being used to denote the unreality of reality, and likewise with Mind signifying the, hmm, only thought? . All experience being a sort of mass sense perception of realization. Language providing an auditory and, recently, orthographic means to that end?
FluidBen 1 month ago
@FluidBen Yes, I er on the side of caution, so much of language is metaphor and ultimately words are equivocal, they elicit different mental maps in each individual based on their learned associations. One could compare "dream" to "simulation" but that doesn't mean they are.exactly the same. Just as one may call all that is "universe" and another may call it "multiverse" etc. (cont)
HoloplexProductions 1 month ago
@HoloplexProductions I don't consider the mind to be merely the object of thoughts, but rather an ongoing recursive reinstantiation that emerges ultimately as a neural (and social) process (see neural network).
Language being the meta-technology that enables epigenetic evolution, complexity builds on complexity. watch?v=R5Sk098TV7U
HoloplexProductions 1 month ago
@HoloplexProductions also... watch?v=n3opRNxqYWw
HoloplexProductions 1 month ago
@HoloplexProductions I understand, and perhaps I should more clearly define my understanding of the concept of thought...which, now that this one thinks about it, is quite similar to what this one sees in your use of neural network. Spiritus Mundi.
FluidBen 1 month ago
I get ur perspective but language isnt a virus, it's emotions. Emotions get in the way of everyones everyday life. It's impossible to live without emotions although some have proven otherwise. One can't truly explain it but with our emotions we would be more progressive and we there wouldn't be any interference in anything we do. The world would achieve complete and utter peace. The problem is that if there was true peace the world would truly be a dull and boring place to live in.
datguyoverdere12 3 months ago
@datguyoverdere12 I'm speaking poetically and playing on a meme which William Burruoughs started several decades ago. Emotions are certainly more decipherable than language, but not everyone is able to emote.
HoloplexProductions 3 months ago
@HoloplexProductions well
datguyoverdere12 3 months ago
yep, I took my clothes off long ago and found there was no "shame" as the "dogma" suggests.
4 _ME_ Burroughs and his propensity to look to space was part of his escapist persona, in ALL his writings that I have read, which is few, he always gets to the POINT where he says 'fck IT' lets go into space. MYSELF I AM happy HERE on earth and have no desire to explore outer space and having spent much TIME in inner space find that invalid from a REAL LIFE perspective NOW.
GREAT videos, thanks.
anthony
babylonIZfallin 5 months ago
@MrHerpesvirus Identity is always an ambiguous affair because one's sense of self is always in flux yet behind the scenes the brain creates the illusion of a continual unfolding of one self, . Thoughts are one's mistaken identity, thoughts are not grounded in being, as U.G. Krishnamurti might say "only the body is real". This is the crisis our species faces from our own self-alienation from the somatic, from embodiment (the feminine) that now we see the body as a lump of meat which...
HoloplexProductions 5 months ago
@HoloplexProductions ...we carry around wishing to be freed from as the mind escapes into a posthuman substrate. The disavow of the body is a rejection of our own sensual experiences. By placing mind above and beyond the body it becomes a parasite which limits our perception to thoughts alone. If the schism isn't healed then the body will soon be discarded as "we" enter the machine.
HoloplexProductions 5 months ago
dude! Awesome video bro
Jmillyful 5 months ago
/watch?v=PZO8sV6J6yk
marsgodofficial 5 months ago
As you know, I am not a fan of transhumanism. Technology I believe is child's play. Consciousness, energies, creationism...basically mind over matter. Not even that...more like "feeling energy" (morphic field) over matter. Love ya Miles! Your name rhymes with smiles too! Holly
Blazenresearcher 6 months ago
Yes, I believe he said words are like viruses when he was discussing the torah and bible. However, sounds as in ACGT, which are the basis of sanskrit are also coded in our DNA. We are and have been programmed. It is interesting that you referred to the Archons, when looking at the world, one wonders if there are Archon beings behind the scene. The morphic field of consciousness is beyond techonology. There will never be a technology that can simulate the essence of TRUE consciousness.
Blazenresearcher 6 months ago
@Blazenresearcher Hi Holly, I think what Burroughs was primarily alluding to when he compared words to viruses was the power that they have to control and manipulate others. I'm not sure what reference you are making when you mention the sounds being coded into our DNA and Sanskrit, it wasn't clear - "The God Code"? We are the "archons", there is only one motion of which everything is a part. We are organic technology and technology is inorganic nature...
HoloplexProductions 6 months ago
@HoloplexProductions "Consciousness" in its "pure" form is a void of emptiness, it is like an unused CPU cycle of a computer or when yin and yang cancel each other out. +1 -1 = 0. Mind and matter are still dualistic concepts, there is only one substance of different gradiations. I think the mistake people make is in what they define as technology and what they define as nature. They are both evolutionary adaptions to a given environment...
HoloplexProductions 6 months ago
@HoloplexProductions With transhumanism we are encoding the future anthropos of our species. They needn't be cold, heartless machines, but rather emotive technology, it depends entirely on the nature of embodiment of that species which we are becoming. Human destiny is for the stars and we cannot do that without enhancing our organism.
HoloplexProductions 6 months ago
@HoloplexProductions Yes...like in the God Code....ACGT are the chemical DNA sequencing. What!!?? We are the Archons??? Ok...not sure how that works...I will stay tuned for possibly the next Vid!
Blazenresearcher 6 months ago
@Blazenresearcher I'm not trying to rain on your parade Holly, but Braden's work in The God Code is pseudoscience and nothing more. However, I do acknowledge and agree that Sanskrit does seems to posses certain creative powers from the natural of the harmonics within the vowels. We are the archons... 1) Because mind is a simulation/imitation 2) There is no separation/identity is an illusion. Thanks for the hologram vid btw really nice. Smiles to you :)
HoloplexProductions 6 months ago
Great blog! Thanks again.
mojomanhand 6 months ago
The expansion of technology to form more effective communication around the time of the singularity would push human understanding and empathy into a whole new realm so many find difficult to see. As far as artificial intelligence reaching true human properties, why would we want it to? Instead of creating machines in our image we should better them. Rationally and "emotionally" intelligent. machines should not necessarily be modeled by the same concepts humans are.
TruthAndLoyalty 6 months ago
Reminds me of the greedy dna concept or whatever it is called. Formation of language is the point at which we express past just our dna. I too believe we tend to limit the idea of language to linguistic ideas and some visual representations, but the web of communication is much more and can be expanded indefinitely. while technology breeds impersonal relationships now, it will easily expand to surpass even in person language. think how i think, see what I see, feel how i feel.
TruthAndLoyalty 6 months ago
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