The 14th Amendment original intent of the (14th) to the US & without question is misinterpreted to give citizenship to babies born in the US of illegals. These babies, via birthright citizenship, act as anchor babies & can, upon reaching age of majority, facilitate bringing extended family into the US in order to obtain citizenship. A Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the misinterpretation & action is urgently needed to stop this abuse of R country by these leaches.
In just 10 yrs, 4 million illegals who happen to give birth in the US will be provided automatic citizenship to their kid, skirting immigration laws via an unintended loophole. Majority of those cases, We the taxpayer will be responsibility for feeding, clothing, educating & providing for health care.Not to mention cost of criminal activity, victimization, court costs & prisons costs, We all know a significant % will go that route. Vote for politicians that will STOP this!
you are either one of the people or citizen of the United States. The people are sovereign, citizens are subject to the jurisdiction. There are 2 requirements to be a citizen. You must be born or naturalized, you also must be subject to the jurisdiction. Read it again. Most people think being a citizen is a good thing. Ever notice how Civil Rights is always capitalized. That's cuz it's a proper name. It's the proper name for a group of civil privileges. youtube search "Bill T common law"
All the 14th amendment does is make the federal Government superior to the states. It has nothing to do with civil rights. Those are guaranteed to all free men in the body. This is why I want it repealed. That structure is not what the US was supposed to operate under. We are supposed to be citizens of our state and through that citizens of the Union insuring the Government does not go outside it's constitutional bounds.
@Luigi84289 You obviously have never read the 14th Amendment, or the Constitution for that matter. The Supremacy Clause makes the federal government superior to the States. The 14th Amendment protects individuals from state action inconsistent with the Bill of Rights.
@curtbentley That kind of confidence is dangerous my friend have you read it? The supremacy clause makes the federal government superior to the states pertaining to the enumerated powers. The states were created by the people living there who then erected the first confederation then erected the federal government (a second one) which became a federally supreme empire in 1868 when the Bill of Rights was applied to the states with the 14th amendment.
@curtbentley Our Government is unconstitutional. The founders never intended and it is impossible to have legit amendment ratification without the Federal government remaining separate. Any influence violates the will of the people of whatever or several states from voicing how they truly feel. The only thing we think we have a say in is the presidential election. The election of the new perceived 4 year power head. Federal supremacy is tyranny for only God is above all men.
Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by 36th congress, So they could change our republic and start the evil seeds that killed what our founding fathers were against
Carl Marx brought the English version of Communist Manifesto to New york in 1850, the Civil war didn't start till 1861 and it wasn't over till May 1865.. Some one in congress was influenced by Marx's work and wanted people to work for government, Just like Woodrow Wilson and FDR... and many other presidents!! The Commie party of 1963 made 45 goals of taking over America step by step and they did mostly!
36th Congress was Treasonous and ranter than restoring the republic they made it a socialist Marxist country where the people answer to the government, not the other way around.people let it happen. Andrew Johnson was impeached for vetoing all of the Unconstitutional 4 reconstruction acts and congress found a way to impeach him and replace him with General Grant as a puppet.
The14th amendment was not ratified, and the south was held at gunpoint! Yankee representatives sent from the north, to control each of the 22 southern States like a police state with troops. Congress Passed the Reconstruction acts that President Jonson was impeached for Veto-ing! all of the amendments 13th free slaves 14th make state citizens slaves of the District of Columbia & 15th black men can vote.
This is a open forum and ppl say what they want. No disrrespect to anyone. Spamming a comment has the opposite affect. It only makes ppl more curious about what was said.
OBAMA is a constitutional attorney. He knows this issue can come back to haunt the USA. Again, if a war breaks out and we have to enact a draft, we have a real issue on our hands cuz u can believe the 14th admendment will come into play. To go into war because you want to is one thing, to be drafted is another. There are responsiblities in holding allengence to a country and not just the benefits.
Ok now lets get down with it! The children who are crying now and want to become USA citizens cuz their parents brought them here while they were young, that same argument can be USED aganist the USA. WHY? Because if this country had to go into war and enact a draft, those same children and parents can come back and say, we are not citizens, therefore we have no allgence 2 this country and dont have to go to war. Thats why this is dangerous.
If women can come into this country giving assumed names and have children and they become USA citizens, that can create a "BABY MILL". That means that the child is a citizen, but the parent(s) dont exist in this country. That is dangerous. Think about it! It is not just about the 14th admendment, it is about this country becoming a "BABY MILL" with fictious parents recorded in Vital Statistics. You have no way to trace that parent because they DONT EXIST.
I want OBAMA to stand up and get on the right side of this issue. This is not about racism or any of the other things ppl are trying to throw out here. He knows in good conscience what is going on, he is not that stupid that he cant see. This country can have 1000's of women having babies in this country and we dont know who they are. It is a threat to the security of this country NOT to know who is here legally. Thats why the immigration process is necessary.
OBAMA is a constitutional attorney. He knows this issue can come back to haunt the USA. Again, if a war breaks out and we have to enact a draft, we have a real issue on our hands cuz u can believe the 14th admendment will come into play. To go into war because you want to is one thing, to be drafted is another. There are responsiblities in holding allengence to a country and not just the benefits.
The 14th amendment is not absolute. Why are corporations people? Animals gays, terrorists, and illegals are reasonable restictions on person. We must limit the fourteenth amendment to get rid of sicial justice.
"[The 14th amendment] will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person."........ Jacob Howard, 1868.... It's in the congressional record.
1. If one parent has US nationality, then the child is a dual citizen, but still a 14th Amendment US citizen. 2. If both parents have US nationality, then the child is a natural born US citizen. 3. If neither parent has US nationality, then the child is the nationality of the parents.
@borderraven The United States does not recognize dual citizenship. In the oath of citizenship, one is required to renounce allegiance to any other foreign power, in order to become a US citizen. The concept of dual citizenship, is largely European, in nature. A US citizen is first a citizen of their respective state. There was, no such thing, as a US citizen, prior to 1868. The framers of the Constitution, all regarded themselves citizens, of their respective states (countries, to them), only.
@Sleeko11, Barack Obama did not go through the naturalization process. Now, there is a COLB online indicating a birth may have occurred in Hawaii. OK, assume he was born in Hawaii, to a US citizen mother and a British citizen father, then he is at least a US citizen, but by blood he is also British. Therefore he is not a Natural Born Citizen, and not eligible to be a US President.
GIVE IT A REST! People like you are out of gas. Obama is the President of The United States and there ain't a damn thing you can do but hope he's a One Term President. GET OVER IT!
WISHFUL THINKING Unless you can get some chick other than Michelle to suck President Obama's "How do you do" and of course with his co-operation, impeachment is a foreign language when it comes to Obama. Your pal Bush is responsible for killing more Americans than Osama bin laden could've ever hope to dream of, and no one said anything. There's a Youtube video of Bush saying he cares nothing about what the American people want.
@Solowizard, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware I liked Bush. He ain't my pal. And if you're even hinting that you don't think impeachment was justified for Clinton and his PURGERY UNDER OATH, then you're sadly mistaken. No one cares about the blowjob, dude. It's that he lied on the stand. You say no one said anything about Bush "killing people"? Do you not remember the world-wide protests against the Iraq war? MILLIONS worldwide said something.
A child born in one of the states united under the US Constitution, is subject to the territorial state laws of the state (locum, jus soli) and the USA (locum, jus soli), but also under the joint jurisdiction of his mother's (personam, jus sanguinis) nationality and his father's (personam, jus sanguinis) nationality.
The supreme court has ruled that the 50 states are countries with respect to each other but under the 14th amendment system you are participating in rebellion against your de jure country when you vote, through contract as well and that is why you have to pay IRS and so forth.. and are responsible for the national debt. watch all 6 vids for more info please watch watch?v=G1B33IvnJ4M&feature=ch annel_page
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Liezei 1 month ago
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kreendurron 8 months ago 6
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The 14th Amendment original intent of the (14th) to the US & without question is misinterpreted to give citizenship to babies born in the US of illegals. These babies, via birthright citizenship, act as anchor babies & can, upon reaching age of majority, facilitate bringing extended family into the US in order to obtain citizenship. A Constitutional amendment would be necessary to remedy the misinterpretation & action is urgently needed to stop this abuse of R country by these leaches.
onstageagain 8 months ago
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In just 10 yrs, 4 million illegals who happen to give birth in the US will be provided automatic citizenship to their kid, skirting immigration laws via an unintended loophole. Majority of those cases, We the taxpayer will be responsibility for feeding, clothing, educating & providing for health care.Not to mention cost of criminal activity, victimization, court costs & prisons costs, We all know a significant % will go that route. Vote for politicians that will STOP this!
onstageagain 8 months ago
Ol boy, people can't be sovereign because corporations are people under the fourteenth amendment.
slyrollin60crip 8 months ago
you are either one of the people or citizen of the United States. The people are sovereign, citizens are subject to the jurisdiction. There are 2 requirements to be a citizen. You must be born or naturalized, you also must be subject to the jurisdiction. Read it again. Most people think being a citizen is a good thing. Ever notice how Civil Rights is always capitalized. That's cuz it's a proper name. It's the proper name for a group of civil privileges. youtube search "Bill T common law"
BrizoB5000 10 months ago
All the 14th amendment does is make the federal Government superior to the states. It has nothing to do with civil rights. Those are guaranteed to all free men in the body. This is why I want it repealed. That structure is not what the US was supposed to operate under. We are supposed to be citizens of our state and through that citizens of the Union insuring the Government does not go outside it's constitutional bounds.
Luigi84289 1 year ago
@Luigi84289 You obviously have never read the 14th Amendment, or the Constitution for that matter. The Supremacy Clause makes the federal government superior to the States. The 14th Amendment protects individuals from state action inconsistent with the Bill of Rights.
curtbentley 11 months ago
@curtbentley That kind of confidence is dangerous my friend have you read it? The supremacy clause makes the federal government superior to the states pertaining to the enumerated powers. The states were created by the people living there who then erected the first confederation then erected the federal government (a second one) which became a federally supreme empire in 1868 when the Bill of Rights was applied to the states with the 14th amendment.
Luigi84289 11 months ago
@curtbentley Our Government is unconstitutional. The founders never intended and it is impossible to have legit amendment ratification without the Federal government remaining separate. Any influence violates the will of the people of whatever or several states from voicing how they truly feel. The only thing we think we have a say in is the presidential election. The election of the new perceived 4 year power head. Federal supremacy is tyranny for only God is above all men.
Luigi84289 11 months ago
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dpchrist26 1 year ago
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scribd.com/doc/31133151/Communist-Party-Goals-1963-AKA-Marxist-Leninist-Socialist-goals\
Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by 36th congress, So they could change our republic and start the evil seeds that killed what our founding fathers were against
dpchrist26 1 year ago
scribd.com/doc/31133151/Communist-Party-Goals-1963-AKA-Marxist-Leninist-Socialist-goals\
Carl Marx brought the English version of Communist Manifesto to New york in 1850, the Civil war didn't start till 1861 and it wasn't over till May 1865.. Some one in congress was influenced by Marx's work and wanted people to work for government, Just like Woodrow Wilson and FDR... and many other presidents!! The Commie party of 1963 made 45 goals of taking over America step by step and they did mostly!
dpchrist26 1 year ago
scribd.com/doc/31133151/Communist-Party-Goals-1963-AKA-Marxist-Leninist-Socialist-goals\
36th Congress was Treasonous and ranter than restoring the republic they made it a socialist Marxist country where the people answer to the government, not the other way around.people let it happen. Andrew Johnson was impeached for vetoing all of the Unconstitutional 4 reconstruction acts and congress found a way to impeach him and replace him with General Grant as a puppet.
dpchrist26 1 year ago
scribd.com/doc/31133151/Communist-Party-Goals-1963-AKA-Marxist-Leninist-Socialist-goals\
The14th amendment was not ratified, and the south was held at gunpoint! Yankee representatives sent from the north, to control each of the 22 southern States like a police state with troops. Congress Passed the Reconstruction acts that President Jonson was impeached for Veto-ing! all of the amendments 13th free slaves 14th make state citizens slaves of the District of Columbia & 15th black men can vote.
dpchrist26 1 year ago
This is a open forum and ppl say what they want. No disrrespect to anyone. Spamming a comment has the opposite affect. It only makes ppl more curious about what was said.
dontbsostupid7575 1 year ago
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OBAMA is a constitutional attorney. He knows this issue can come back to haunt the USA. Again, if a war breaks out and we have to enact a draft, we have a real issue on our hands cuz u can believe the 14th admendment will come into play. To go into war because you want to is one thing, to be drafted is another. There are responsiblities in holding allengence to a country and not just the benefits.
dontbsostupid7575 1 year ago
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Ok now lets get down with it! The children who are crying now and want to become USA citizens cuz their parents brought them here while they were young, that same argument can be USED aganist the USA. WHY? Because if this country had to go into war and enact a draft, those same children and parents can come back and say, we are not citizens, therefore we have no allgence 2 this country and dont have to go to war. Thats why this is dangerous.
dontbsostupid7575 1 year ago
If women can come into this country giving assumed names and have children and they become USA citizens, that can create a "BABY MILL". That means that the child is a citizen, but the parent(s) dont exist in this country. That is dangerous. Think about it! It is not just about the 14th admendment, it is about this country becoming a "BABY MILL" with fictious parents recorded in Vital Statistics. You have no way to trace that parent because they DONT EXIST.
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dontbsostupid7575 1 year ago
I want OBAMA to stand up and get on the right side of this issue. This is not about racism or any of the other things ppl are trying to throw out here. He knows in good conscience what is going on, he is not that stupid that he cant see. This country can have 1000's of women having babies in this country and we dont know who they are. It is a threat to the security of this country NOT to know who is here legally. Thats why the immigration process is necessary.
dontbsostupid7575 1 year ago
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OBAMA is a constitutional attorney. He knows this issue can come back to haunt the USA. Again, if a war breaks out and we have to enact a draft, we have a real issue on our hands cuz u can believe the 14th admendment will come into play. To go into war because you want to is one thing, to be drafted is another. There are responsiblities in holding allengence to a country and not just the benefits.
dontbsostupid7575 1 year ago
The 14th amendment is not absolute. Why are corporations people? Animals gays, terrorists, and illegals are reasonable restictions on person. We must limit the fourteenth amendment to get rid of sicial justice.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
Let just ask the author of the 14th Amendment:
"[The 14th amendment] will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include every other class of person."........ Jacob Howard, 1868.... It's in the congressional record.
Sleeko11 1 year ago
1. If one parent has US nationality, then the child is a dual citizen, but still a 14th Amendment US citizen. 2. If both parents have US nationality, then the child is a natural born US citizen. 3. If neither parent has US nationality, then the child is the nationality of the parents.
borderraven 2 years ago
@borderraven The United States does not recognize dual citizenship. In the oath of citizenship, one is required to renounce allegiance to any other foreign power, in order to become a US citizen. The concept of dual citizenship, is largely European, in nature. A US citizen is first a citizen of their respective state. There was, no such thing, as a US citizen, prior to 1868. The framers of the Constitution, all regarded themselves citizens, of their respective states (countries, to them), only.
Sleeko11 1 year ago
@Sleeko11, Barack Obama did not go through the naturalization process. Now, there is a COLB online indicating a birth may have occurred in Hawaii. OK, assume he was born in Hawaii, to a US citizen mother and a British citizen father, then he is at least a US citizen, but by blood he is also British. Therefore he is not a Natural Born Citizen, and not eligible to be a US President.
borderraven 1 year ago
@borderraven,
GIVE IT A REST! People like you are out of gas. Obama is the President of The United States and there ain't a damn thing you can do but hope he's a One Term President. GET OVER IT!
IT'S NOW IN THE HISTORY BOOKS!
Solowizard 1 year ago
@Solowizard Sure there is. Impeachment or secession =)
tpajason 1 year ago
@tpajason,LOL!
WISHFUL THINKING Unless you can get some chick other than Michelle to suck President Obama's "How do you do" and of course with his co-operation, impeachment is a foreign language when it comes to Obama. Your pal Bush is responsible for killing more Americans than Osama bin laden could've ever hope to dream of, and no one said anything. There's a Youtube video of Bush saying he cares nothing about what the American people want.
Solowizard 1 year ago
@Solowizard, I'm sorry. I wasn't aware I liked Bush. He ain't my pal. And if you're even hinting that you don't think impeachment was justified for Clinton and his PURGERY UNDER OATH, then you're sadly mistaken. No one cares about the blowjob, dude. It's that he lied on the stand. You say no one said anything about Bush "killing people"? Do you not remember the world-wide protests against the Iraq war? MILLIONS worldwide said something.
tpajason 1 year ago
A child born in one of the states united under the US Constitution, is subject to the territorial state laws of the state (locum, jus soli) and the USA (locum, jus soli), but also under the joint jurisdiction of his mother's (personam, jus sanguinis) nationality and his father's (personam, jus sanguinis) nationality.
borderraven 2 years ago
The 14th Amendment did not free anyone ... the slaves were freed under the 13th and turned into subjects under the 14th amendment.
The founders did not want to be subjects to king George because it was just another form of slavery.
Black men were freemen from 1864-1868 ... the 14th amendment turned them into subjects after .
women were subject to their husbands or govt ... never were women free!
White men are free from1784-1868 then turned into subjects under the 14th
federalism = slavery
ben5017 2 years ago
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The supreme court has ruled that the 50 states are countries with respect to each other but under the 14th amendment system you are participating in rebellion against your de jure country when you vote, through contract as well and that is why you have to pay IRS and so forth.. and are responsible for the national debt. watch all 6 vids for more info please watch watch?v=G1B33IvnJ4M&feature=ch annel_page
Freihals1 2 years ago