You listen to the Sublime song "KRS-ONE" and every single DJ scratch is from THIS album, as far as I can tell, Mighta been Kris's most reggae ish album maybe thats why it was Sublime's fave, just guessing.
@falseistrue - Nas is great. I havent listened to him enough beyond Illmatic to give you any educated argument, but in 1993 I would have gone right along with what youre saying.
@rjsonbeek Why are you on here then, this is a hard-edged hip-hop search site, go to the top of the page and type in the search box, 'bea' for ; WACK,CRACKERJACK, WEAKASS, WHINEY, TWEE, INSIPID, SNUB,FAKE DILUTED ROBBED FROM ORIGINAL R'N'B , GREYBACK, DIRGE. 'tles'. Hope that helpsyou '@rjsonbeek'. NOW FUCK-OFF FROM THIS PAGE, 'POP-BOY'.
I got bad news for you too. Im from Cali (Los Angeles/ Bay Area). And Pac is a hero to us. He took on the whole East Coast by himself. So were both probably biased. But I think we can agree the south fucked up HIp Hop
@nitenstyle Fuck yeah, all that dirty south shit that started late 90's, god damn bullshit! 98% of those dudes couldn't even speak english, sure Outkast was dope and I dug the Geto Boys, Goodie Mob but only Cee Lo.
Things are changin' though and the South actually has some dope artist's, 9th wonder, Little Brother's first album, Jay electronica got some lyrics....I guess I can't even think of that many, oh yeah Ludacris can be dope too, when he's on point.
@nitenstyle Listen to the very end of Masta Killa's song School feat. RZA, there's a Tupac sound bite biggin up wu Tang, saying he loves them and he feels like "they represent the East coast the way we represent the West Coast" I thought that was dope to hear.
people would beg to differ because they are A. biased, or B. fail to realize KRS1 was waaay ahead of his time when he made this old school shit. At least you didn't put Biggie in your top 5 list.
pac everyone as pac. im talking about rapping skills not what they rapped about, and pac isnt b4 b.i.g. his lyrical talent is way more advanced than pac
whats the difference? Pac has books and books of poetic material. He my freind is a true artist. Who's more poetic than Pac? ONly Nas comes close. . Big has lyrical talent yes, but how can he be the best with only 2 albums under his belt? Calling BIG the best is a slap in the face to all of the MC's who have been in the game for decades. And as for lyrical tallent, Big was not the best. Alot of MCs could and can spit better than him. Eminem is just as talented, white or not.
how isnt B.I.G. the greatest. those 2 albums were great enough to bring him into the discusion of the greats. only 2! Pac was an over-educated private schoolboy (with all respect due). he was great, but he had much more help, education, and money to get his career off. biggie went from rags to richest. pac is all talk unfortunatly
@tamj0hnsen - While you make a valid point, how much help one did or did not have should not be the ultimate criteria by which one measures how great someone is. The output matters most. Furthermore, define "over-educated"? Quite frankly there's really no such thing. The effect that education has on how one perceives other people has more to do with one's internal thought processes, on which one's education and experiences have a profound influence. Yours is an oversimplified argument.
output is not what matters the most. if one had the right connections in the music business, one could easily put out hundreds of albums (lil wayne). that does not make one a good producer. and yes, i agree you cannot be over educated. so we can agree that education would help in the overall lyrical development. so saying that 2pac was educated (college) would be equivalant to saying Biggie was dumb (drop out). i do not feel this makes a persons education though- 2pac was a book-G. nota living 1
He is just trying to say since Pac actually paid attention and learned something in life and wanted to do shit other than sell crack that he isn't real, and to be honest that proves he is a ignorant person. I wouldn't even put Pac as the best rapper dead or alive but even I can tell he was the realest nigga to ever live in our time.
@SistaSolWhy are you guys discussing the(merits?)of 2Pac&Biggie'on a BDP page of a fcukin'classic,the pair of them were a totally different style and I'm afraid the catylists for the shit hip-hop /rap that is endured now since their (pac/biggie)inception.Hip-hop had a style,GROOVE and pertinant lyrics,edgey, fact-filled and conscious (Public Enemy BDP,Masta Ace e.t.c.) or you had the humorus (Pharcyde,De La Soul,Digital Underground e.t.c.)difference being the music&samples used were better then.
@SistaSol - Geez @Sista.., why the over-analysis. Two rather un-exceptional, averagely talented, over-rated artists has you pontificating in a way like they were ' Rhodes' or 'Harvard' scholars who have 'discovered the cure for cancer' or 'worked out the formula to end third world famine'.They were two "ne'er-do-wells",miscreants who by good fortune had a few hit records,eventually dying the way they lived ("those who live by the.."), going on like they're virtuous heroes or decent role models.
BIG can never be the best because he was a shitty person
Yes he was a great lyricist
Yes he was a great rapper
but he was a shitty person with no message and he glamorized some of the worst parts of hip hop. I'm sure I could rant about this for hours about who is the top 5 but I'll leave it at that, even he said it himself he's a piece of shit it ain't hard to tell.
So you are telling me 2 albums is all it takes for BIG to surpass 2 pac in terms of skill and content? A man who drops gem after gem every year? A man who has 20 albums plus under his belt? A man who moves people with his emotion and content?
2 of the most accalimed hip hop albums of all time. on the 100 best rap albums list. voted best rapper ever by many critics. pac had a lot f records doesnt make him the better artist. biggie had better lyrical skills on the mic and put more time and efort in his music. a lot of 2pacs shit doesnt evn rhyme cause he goes into the studio writes it real fast and records. biggie is best by far. but pac is thought to be the best by many cause of his multiple records. if biggie had more hed be a legend
Effort? You mean talking about sipping champagne in the clulb and how many benzs he owns? As far as the most poetic passionate MC of all time, you have to give that to PAC. The most lyrically gifted MC of all time? PLenty of MC's had or have better word play then BIG.
Changes, Lil Homies, Brenda's Got a Baby, Trapped, Ghetto Gospel, Part time Mother, pour out a little liquor, When my homies call, these songs touch the heart. Its hard to explain.. but I respect your opinion, as log as your not from Brooklyn!
bad news lol, i am from the bk. and check this out lol, i used to think 2pac was best ever, then i started listening to biggie then i thought he was the best ever, then i started expanding more and more into hip hop and i realized wow there are some un recognized greats, and me against the world album changed me as a person but i know that krs one is a teacher and didnt promote violence and diss the very place he came from. kinda makes pac a hypocrite dont u tihnk?
@eduardothegreat 8 months later and now that i know more, i kinda agree with and also i like others that wud be there. u see as time goes on u change and so does ur opinions :)
Cunninlynguists - Seasons.
Look it up and listen close y'all.
RyRyDee 1 month ago
How can you possibly dislike the BDP song and actually call yourself a hip-hop fan?!
hiphop4life24678 4 months ago
You listen to the Sublime song "KRS-ONE" and every single DJ scratch is from THIS album, as far as I can tell, Mighta been Kris's most reggae ish album maybe thats why it was Sublime's fave, just guessing.
cassiuscluh 4 months ago
WHY DO YOU ADD THAT TO THE BEGINNINGS OF THE SONGS YOU POST ? YOU RUIN EVERY SONG WITH THAT....
c2daj2dat 9 months ago 3
great beat
Musicbychuckjvl 9 months ago
@falseistrue - Nas is great. I havent listened to him enough beyond Illmatic to give you any educated argument, but in 1993 I would have gone right along with what youre saying.
AnimalMother1976 1 year ago
1 of the best hip hop songs ever
KOOLDUDEINNEWORLEANS 1 year ago
This music sucks!
Love The Beatles forever!
rjsonbeek 1 year ago
@rjsonbeek Why are you on here then, this is a hard-edged hip-hop search site, go to the top of the page and type in the search box, 'bea' for ; WACK,CRACKERJACK, WEAKASS, WHINEY, TWEE, INSIPID, SNUB,FAKE DILUTED ROBBED FROM ORIGINAL R'N'B , GREYBACK, DIRGE. 'tles'. Hope that helpsyou '@rjsonbeek'. NOW FUCK-OFF FROM THIS PAGE, 'POP-BOY'.
lollypasam 1 year ago
gosh you are right! you're so smart and junk! how can i be like you
t3rr3nc388 2 years ago
I got bad news for you too. Im from Cali (Los Angeles/ Bay Area). And Pac is a hero to us. He took on the whole East Coast by himself. So were both probably biased. But I think we can agree the south fucked up HIp Hop
nitenstyle 2 years ago 5
there a side to hiphop
common wrote that song about music moving to the west at one point remember
next we'll get used to it and another statell prove themselves to raps kids in the yard
dapadawan 2 years ago
@nitenstyle i think we all can agree the south and MTV fucked up hip hop.....
DEATHBYSOCIALIST 1 year ago
@DEATHBYSOCIALIST the south fucked up hip hop? LOL. Narrow minded hater. Commerialism fucked up hip hop sorry guy.
Tashag117 1 year ago
@Tashag117 Yeah i wrote that 2 MONTHS ago so i agree with u now, but i do think the majority of the shit comes from the south.
DEATHBYSOCIALIST 1 year ago
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AnimalMother1976 1 year ago
@nitenstyle Fuck yeah, all that dirty south shit that started late 90's, god damn bullshit! 98% of those dudes couldn't even speak english, sure Outkast was dope and I dug the Geto Boys, Goodie Mob but only Cee Lo.
Things are changin' though and the South actually has some dope artist's, 9th wonder, Little Brother's first album, Jay electronica got some lyrics....I guess I can't even think of that many, oh yeah Ludacris can be dope too, when he's on point.
cassiuscluh 4 months ago
@nitenstyle Listen to the very end of Masta Killa's song School feat. RZA, there's a Tupac sound bite biggin up wu Tang, saying he loves them and he feels like "they represent the East coast the way we represent the West Coast" I thought that was dope to hear.
cassiuscluh 4 months ago
krs one is a hip hop legend.
frankwhite432 2 years ago 2
he is the greatest MC of all time
nitenstyle 2 years ago
thats cool if hes your favorite, but many people would beg to differ, hes definetly my top 5 tho
frankwhite432 2 years ago
whos your top five then?
nitenstyle 2 years ago
rakim
krs one
slick rick
q-tip
guru from gang starr
frankwhite432 2 years ago
people would beg to differ because they are A. biased, or B. fail to realize KRS1 was waaay ahead of his time when he made this old school shit. At least you didn't put Biggie in your top 5 list.
My top 3 are Krs1
Pac
Rakim
nitenstyle 2 years ago
pac everyone as pac. im talking about rapping skills not what they rapped about, and pac isnt b4 b.i.g. his lyrical talent is way more advanced than pac
frankwhite432 2 years ago
whats the difference? Pac has books and books of poetic material. He my freind is a true artist. Who's more poetic than Pac? ONly Nas comes close. . Big has lyrical talent yes, but how can he be the best with only 2 albums under his belt? Calling BIG the best is a slap in the face to all of the MC's who have been in the game for decades. And as for lyrical tallent, Big was not the best. Alot of MCs could and can spit better than him. Eminem is just as talented, white or not.
nitenstyle 2 years ago
how isnt B.I.G. the greatest. those 2 albums were great enough to bring him into the discusion of the greats. only 2! Pac was an over-educated private schoolboy (with all respect due). he was great, but he had much more help, education, and money to get his career off. biggie went from rags to richest. pac is all talk unfortunatly
tamj0hnsen 2 years ago
@tamj0hnsen - While you make a valid point, how much help one did or did not have should not be the ultimate criteria by which one measures how great someone is. The output matters most. Furthermore, define "over-educated"? Quite frankly there's really no such thing. The effect that education has on how one perceives other people has more to do with one's internal thought processes, on which one's education and experiences have a profound influence. Yours is an oversimplified argument.
SistaSol 2 years ago
output is not what matters the most. if one had the right connections in the music business, one could easily put out hundreds of albums (lil wayne). that does not make one a good producer. and yes, i agree you cannot be over educated. so we can agree that education would help in the overall lyrical development. so saying that 2pac was educated (college) would be equivalant to saying Biggie was dumb (drop out). i do not feel this makes a persons education though- 2pac was a book-G. nota living 1
tamj0hnsen 2 years ago
He is just trying to say since Pac actually paid attention and learned something in life and wanted to do shit other than sell crack that he isn't real, and to be honest that proves he is a ignorant person. I wouldn't even put Pac as the best rapper dead or alive but even I can tell he was the realest nigga to ever live in our time.
KmaC2464 1 year ago
@SistaSolWhy are you guys discussing the(merits?)of 2Pac&Biggie'on a BDP page of a fcukin'classic,the pair of them were a totally different style and I'm afraid the catylists for the shit hip-hop /rap that is endured now since their (pac/biggie)inception.Hip-hop had a style,GROOVE and pertinant lyrics,edgey, fact-filled and conscious (Public Enemy BDP,Masta Ace e.t.c.) or you had the humorus (Pharcyde,De La Soul,Digital Underground e.t.c.)difference being the music&samples used were better then.
lollypasam 1 year ago
@SistaSol - Geez @Sista.., why the over-analysis. Two rather un-exceptional, averagely talented, over-rated artists has you pontificating in a way like they were ' Rhodes' or 'Harvard' scholars who have 'discovered the cure for cancer' or 'worked out the formula to end third world famine'.They were two "ne'er-do-wells",miscreants who by good fortune had a few hit records,eventually dying the way they lived ("those who live by the.."), going on like they're virtuous heroes or decent role models.
lollypasam 1 year ago
BIG can never be the best because he was a shitty person
Yes he was a great lyricist
Yes he was a great rapper
but he was a shitty person with no message and he glamorized some of the worst parts of hip hop. I'm sure I could rant about this for hours about who is the top 5 but I'll leave it at that, even he said it himself he's a piece of shit it ain't hard to tell.
KmaC2464 1 year ago
So you are telling me 2 albums is all it takes for BIG to surpass 2 pac in terms of skill and content? A man who drops gem after gem every year? A man who has 20 albums plus under his belt? A man who moves people with his emotion and content?
nitenstyle 2 years ago
2 of the most accalimed hip hop albums of all time. on the 100 best rap albums list. voted best rapper ever by many critics. pac had a lot f records doesnt make him the better artist. biggie had better lyrical skills on the mic and put more time and efort in his music. a lot of 2pacs shit doesnt evn rhyme cause he goes into the studio writes it real fast and records. biggie is best by far. but pac is thought to be the best by many cause of his multiple records. if biggie had more hed be a legend
frankwhite432 2 years ago
Effort? You mean talking about sipping champagne in the clulb and how many benzs he owns? As far as the most poetic passionate MC of all time, you have to give that to PAC. The most lyrically gifted MC of all time? PLenty of MC's had or have better word play then BIG.
nitenstyle 2 years ago
Changes, Lil Homies, Brenda's Got a Baby, Trapped, Ghetto Gospel, Part time Mother, pour out a little liquor, When my homies call, these songs touch the heart. Its hard to explain.. but I respect your opinion, as log as your not from Brooklyn!
nitenstyle 2 years ago
bad news lol, i am from the bk. and check this out lol, i used to think 2pac was best ever, then i started listening to biggie then i thought he was the best ever, then i started expanding more and more into hip hop and i realized wow there are some un recognized greats, and me against the world album changed me as a person but i know that krs one is a teacher and didnt promote violence and diss the very place he came from. kinda makes pac a hypocrite dont u tihnk?
frankwhite432 2 years ago
@frankwhite432 i like your top 5!! i would probably substitute q-tip and put in Big daddy Kane!!!
eduardothegreat 1 year ago
@eduardothegreat 8 months later and now that i know more, i kinda agree with and also i like others that wud be there. u see as time goes on u change and so does ur opinions :)
frankwhite432 1 year ago
@frankwhite432
Jay-Z - I used to hate him for all the bling BS and stealing the "Blueprint" but Blueprint 3 won me over. He gets the crown.
KRS ONE - Nobody up until him and not many after ever put this much heart into Hip Hop. I had the Blueprint the summer it came out. I was 12.
Guru - Mostly The Voice...but Primo never hurt an MC's sound, right?
MF Doom - He is making the English language his bitch and his lyrics are far too layered for anyone caught up in BIG/2Pac BS
GZA - WU TANG
AnimalMother1976 1 year ago
@AnimalMother1976 try not to reply to comments that are over a month old
frankwhite432 1 year ago
@frankwhite432 Sure thing Herbert
AnimalMother1976 1 year ago
@frankwhite432
Batty Boy complicating the internet
AnimalMother1976 1 year ago
@AnimalMother1976 Nas is the best artist to ever pick up a mic.
falseistrue 1 year ago
163rd & Sheridan Ave posse rise UP!!!
AR15SHOTS2U 2 years ago
What an ill ass beat...
GoryOrator 2 years ago 2
True classic!!!!
devastatind 3 years ago 12