Why can't these guys pass some G-Damned REFORM!?!!?!? (I have a pre-existing condition, so it's personal to me. Pence, get real and be part of the reform!)
Obama is as shifty as they come, let's see, If we take some milktoast Republicans, who really are like democrats, and the take the Obama serious lefties, we move further to the left, grow government, spend more in taxes, frustrate economic growth, and crush initiative to go to work and be productive. We need to move away from that....and DAMN GW BUSH TOO! He was a total anti-republican RINO!, we need a real movement to the right, and start shutting down big government!
I am ashamed of Mike Pence honestly . . you should see the way he structured his question . . . he is obviously a racist.. they just want things done the white way . . . where were these idiots when Bush crippled the economy? Americans don';t even deserve Obama . . you should be happy to have him
I am ashamed of Mike Pence honestly . . you should see the way he structured his question . . . he is obviously a racist.. they just want things done the white way . . . where were these idiots when Bush crippled the economy? Americans don';t even deserve Obama . . you should be happy to have him
I missed the (now legendary) Obama responses. Thanks to this low life con trying to buy votes on YouTube, I've been made aware of it and look forward to seeing it over and over again.
centrist bill? is he fricken kidding? this is the most left sided bill i've seen in the history of the united states. completly ignoring anything the republicans wanted to contribute (god pelosi's a stupid bitch btw). this bill was so unpopular that he had to pay off members of HIS OWN party to get it through. 2000 page bullshit. i'll bet anyone that passed it didn't even read it through all the way. obama probably didn't even read it all the way. who knows what other shit is in there?
"Republican" and "contribute" should never be used in the same sentence. That is if the writer has a brain. If you support repubicons, then you most definitely do NOT have brain.
The guy is a liar, obama destroyed all there weak plans and points he stated the cross state borders plan was already in the bill, except for the part the republicans wanted in it with insurance companies choosing which state rules could use to keep withholding some treatments and keep the costs up. tort reform is not a full plan and this talking head liar knows it.
President Obama has given our Democratic Party a terrible legacy that will live on for many years to come. He has shown those with any intelligence that anyone other than a corporate lobbyist should nevermore believe in a Democrat for any positive change. Our President Obama is clearly the false prophet of change. That is to say, except for given us a higher meaning of change in the form of gullibility accorded to Democratic Party demagoguery.
@geofiles you have failed to use a thesaurus correctly. go watch fox news with your dad and hope that one day you can consciously form your ow opinions
President Obama has given our Democratic Party a terrible legacy that will live on for many years to come. He has shown those with any intelligence that anyone other than a corporate lobbyist should nevermore believe in a Democrat for any positive change. Our President Obama is clearly the false prophet of change. That is to say, except for given us a higher meaning of change in the form of gullibility accorded to Democratic Party demagoguery.
You need to stop being so jealous of Obama. He is better than you and has laid bare the fact that republicans are broken records of mediocrity and obstruction. The only thing cons are good at are lying the same way to produce gullible nutbags like you.
I sincerely hope Mr. Pence reads this. With all do respect he never addresses the fact that both the stimulus bill and the health care bill contained many of the "solutions" the Republicans proposed. INSTEAD HE PAINTS THE AFFAIR AS A GAME OF TIT FOR TAT, "I told ya we had ideas" or "Finally the world knows we have ideas" missing the ENTIRE point of the address, in a rather childish effort to collect political points. You are elected by the people to deliver, please stop being so WASHINGTON-like
mrcarter2007 is a perfect example of how the right wing propaganda machine has overtaken sound judgement, moral understanding, and basic reasoning skills. When u unfairly paint someone as a communist hell bent on destroying ALL civil liberties, u cant look at ANYTHING he says with any rational level of objectivity. The republicans had many, many years to curb the deficit n find affordable solutions for health care in congress, they didnt...I REPEAT THEY DIDNT, thats a FACT, not left wing bs
Rep Pence, your party did nothing while in power to reduce cost of healthcare, now being forced to come up with ideas-thank you Obama for forcing your party to pay attention to the problem, eventually we'll get something better than what we've had. But to think a minority party gets to write the whole bill when they had a chance while in power seems slightly like you don't really care, you are just backed up against a wall, finally.
You know, listening to Pence talk about republicans 'plans' for healthcare it seems kind of clear that they don't have any ideas. They've got pre-existing conditions...because popular demand has forced them on that, they've got TORT reform and across state-lines.
That's it. I haven't heard anything else.
That's not reform, that's nice little adjsutments, and across state-lines is a disaster if is isn't regulated to prevent firms taking advantage of slack state laws.
This guy Pence has nothing. He is in the party of NO. Yaliemoma below, didn't obviously understand and took what the President said out of context which is the style of teabaggers, he said "you don't have room to negotiate with me" he was saying, when the wing nuts go back and tell their constituents that the President is doing crazy things. They in fact no longer have room to negotiate with him because their people will reject them and be pissed off. Stop the demonizing, that's all.
yeah, funny, very very funny how the repubs have a better plan, yeah RIGHT. Where were they for the past decade. What do you call a country more interested in building a war machine then help its own people. It's called N Korear.
Mike you didn't give one SOLUTION to our problems. Not ONE SIR>.. Just NO all the time? Really... when the dems for 8 years came across the isle and voted with you guys on tons of horrible crappy bills? You want 100% or nothing. Heck even today you voted against pay as you go to address the debt. That's a so called republican issue.. they bring it up for a vote and every single republican voted no anyway!!! come on guys.. this is starting to get retarded.
We would not work with Castro or Hugo Chavez either if either of them were our president.
This guys policies are progressive which is a completely opposite form of government than a republic is.
He may not be plotting and if thats the case then he is a prime example of a completely indoctrinated marxist and thinks what he is doing is actually doable and is the Right thing to do.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
There is NO reason a republic can't be progressive -
favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters.
There is nothing in the Constitution that disallows progress, or reform. That's why it includes an amendment process.
I especially like the part where you think progressivism is "a completely opposite form of government than a republic is." D'oh! I can just imagine the line of Fox News crap you must've swallowed and half-digested, and are now regurgitating on this board.
And Obama's a marxist...lol. Obama's REAL problem is that he's not even a progressive, and he's way too conciliatory to the self-interested obstructionist dicks in the GOP.
@mrcarter2007 Obama is not even close to a Marxist. Nor is he like Chavez or Castro. The terms facist, communist and socialist have been used incorrectly or out of context since the campaign. Perhaps you could stretch and call him a democratic socialist (that's what Sen Bernie Sanders is) but even that's a big stretch.
@mrcarter2007 I hope you summarized that from your own individual research on the issues, not just rhetoric you heard from some republican talking point.
Step back from the Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck or whatever other right wing "truth tellers" u listen to...matter of fact leave cable news and radio all together. Look for independent sources based on fact no opinion (media fact check). Then ask yourself if anything you're saying makes any sense. From your passion I can tell that u love your country, I just hate seeing people misguided n brainwashed...castro, chavez, marx? You're smarter than that, put your passions aside and exercise common sense
Tone down the Fox News rhetoric. Obama is not Marxist...clearly you don't even know what that means if you think he is. And, governments MUST progress if they plan to keep their citizens happy and healthy. It's about time.
Rep Pence, your party did nothing while in power to reduce cost of healthcare, now being forced to come up with ideas-thank you Obama for forcing your party to pay attention to the problem, eventually we'll get something better than what we've had. But to think a minority party gets to write the whole bill when they had a chance while in power seems slightly like you don't really care, you are just backed up against a wall, finally.
2.) When people r bringing guns to townhalls, painting the president with joker face paint, calling the president a marxist, communist, nazi, racist, secret muslim terrorist....i think its time to tone down the rhetoric
3.) When republicans begin to FEAR cosigning ANYTHING a democratic may believe (outside of defense of course) for fear of LOSING VOTES, SUPPORT, AN THEIR JOBS...yep thats lil room to negotiate.
President Obama was talking to the republicans like he was a camp counselor talking to some rowdy kids
PatriotInChief 9 months ago
Mike Pence is an idiot
commentOshimasu 1 year ago 2
isnt pence a neoconservative?
david1965af 2 years ago 2
Why can't these guys pass some G-Damned REFORM!?!!?!? (I have a pre-existing condition, so it's personal to me. Pence, get real and be part of the reform!)
MEpianist 2 years ago
Mike Pence is an idiot.
wowamonn 2 years ago
Obama is as shifty as they come, let's see, If we take some milktoast Republicans, who really are like democrats, and the take the Obama serious lefties, we move further to the left, grow government, spend more in taxes, frustrate economic growth, and crush initiative to go to work and be productive. We need to move away from that....and DAMN GW BUSH TOO! He was a total anti-republican RINO!, we need a real movement to the right, and start shutting down big government!
Federalist306 2 years ago
Mike Pence is a racist . . he can't even look Obama in the face
odijie12 2 years ago
I am ashamed of Mike Pence honestly . . you should see the way he structured his question . . . he is obviously a racist.. they just want things done the white way . . . where were these idiots when Bush crippled the economy? Americans don';t even deserve Obama . . you should be happy to have him
odijie12 2 years ago
I am ashamed of Mike Pence honestly . . you should see the way he structured his question . . . he is obviously a racist.. they just want things done the white way . . . where were these idiots when Bush crippled the economy? Americans don';t even deserve Obama . . you should be happy to have him
odijie12 2 years ago
Why wont Pence load Obama's responses, to his questions?
ACTINGDRAMA 2 years ago
I missed the (now legendary) Obama responses. Thanks to this low life con trying to buy votes on YouTube, I've been made aware of it and look forward to seeing it over and over again.
callouschristian 2 years ago
MrCarter is a completely indoctrinated idiot.
jtwolgamott 2 years ago
Mike Pence is an obstructionist.
jtwolgamott 2 years ago 4
centrist bill? is he fricken kidding? this is the most left sided bill i've seen in the history of the united states. completly ignoring anything the republicans wanted to contribute (god pelosi's a stupid bitch btw). this bill was so unpopular that he had to pay off members of HIS OWN party to get it through. 2000 page bullshit. i'll bet anyone that passed it didn't even read it through all the way. obama probably didn't even read it all the way. who knows what other shit is in there?
creamyfilling102 2 years ago 2
"Republican" and "contribute" should never be used in the same sentence. That is if the writer has a brain. If you support repubicons, then you most definitely do NOT have brain.
callouschristian 2 years ago
The guy is a liar, obama destroyed all there weak plans and points he stated the cross state borders plan was already in the bill, except for the part the republicans wanted in it with insurance companies choosing which state rules could use to keep withholding some treatments and keep the costs up. tort reform is not a full plan and this talking head liar knows it.
frostiestastegreat 2 years ago 3
WAKEUP AMERICA
President Obama has given our Democratic Party a terrible legacy that will live on for many years to come. He has shown those with any intelligence that anyone other than a corporate lobbyist should nevermore believe in a Democrat for any positive change. Our President Obama is clearly the false prophet of change. That is to say, except for given us a higher meaning of change in the form of gullibility accorded to Democratic Party demagoguery.
geofiles 2 years ago
@geofiles you have failed to use a thesaurus correctly. go watch fox news with your dad and hope that one day you can consciously form your ow opinions
head69 2 years ago
President Obama has given our Democratic Party a terrible legacy that will live on for many years to come. He has shown those with any intelligence that anyone other than a corporate lobbyist should nevermore believe in a Democrat for any positive change. Our President Obama is clearly the false prophet of change. That is to say, except for given us a higher meaning of change in the form of gullibility accorded to Democratic Party demagoguery.
geofiles 2 years ago
You need to stop being so jealous of Obama. He is better than you and has laid bare the fact that republicans are broken records of mediocrity and obstruction. The only thing cons are good at are lying the same way to produce gullible nutbags like you.
callouschristian 2 years ago 5
I sincerely hope Mr. Pence reads this. With all do respect he never addresses the fact that both the stimulus bill and the health care bill contained many of the "solutions" the Republicans proposed. INSTEAD HE PAINTS THE AFFAIR AS A GAME OF TIT FOR TAT, "I told ya we had ideas" or "Finally the world knows we have ideas" missing the ENTIRE point of the address, in a rather childish effort to collect political points. You are elected by the people to deliver, please stop being so WASHINGTON-like
dope1 2 years ago 2
mrcarter2007 is a perfect example of how the right wing propaganda machine has overtaken sound judgement, moral understanding, and basic reasoning skills. When u unfairly paint someone as a communist hell bent on destroying ALL civil liberties, u cant look at ANYTHING he says with any rational level of objectivity. The republicans had many, many years to curb the deficit n find affordable solutions for health care in congress, they didnt...I REPEAT THEY DIDNT, thats a FACT, not left wing bs
dope1 2 years ago 4
Rep Pence, your party did nothing while in power to reduce cost of healthcare, now being forced to come up with ideas-thank you Obama for forcing your party to pay attention to the problem, eventually we'll get something better than what we've had. But to think a minority party gets to write the whole bill when they had a chance while in power seems slightly like you don't really care, you are just backed up against a wall, finally.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I couldnt agree more
dope1 2 years ago 4
Chris: What compromises the Republicans willing to offer?
Pence: The President incorporated some of our ideas in the bill.
Mr. Pence that an answer to what compromises the President did, not you.
loya2 2 years ago 2
Republicans are the party of NO....no ideas that WORK.....no interest in doing anything constructive for the majority of Americans.
Pence is a douchebag.
korry74 2 years ago
You know, listening to Pence talk about republicans 'plans' for healthcare it seems kind of clear that they don't have any ideas. They've got pre-existing conditions...because popular demand has forced them on that, they've got TORT reform and across state-lines.
That's it. I haven't heard anything else.
That's not reform, that's nice little adjsutments, and across state-lines is a disaster if is isn't regulated to prevent firms taking advantage of slack state laws.
Staticnz 2 years ago
The more I see Chris Matthews the more I hate him.
But all I can tell you is that if the republicans were in power the situation would be much, much worse.
Staticnz 2 years ago
This guy Pence has nothing. He is in the party of NO. Yaliemoma below, didn't obviously understand and took what the President said out of context which is the style of teabaggers, he said "you don't have room to negotiate with me" he was saying, when the wing nuts go back and tell their constituents that the President is doing crazy things. They in fact no longer have room to negotiate with him because their people will reject them and be pissed off. Stop the demonizing, that's all.
rrsrichard 2 years ago
yeah, funny, very very funny how the repubs have a better plan, yeah RIGHT. Where were they for the past decade. What do you call a country more interested in building a war machine then help its own people. It's called N Korear.
816cameron 2 years ago
Republicans have only instigated fear in people
dcs3723 2 years ago
Republicans are freaking retarded
dcs3723 2 years ago
Mike you didn't give one SOLUTION to our problems. Not ONE SIR>.. Just NO all the time? Really... when the dems for 8 years came across the isle and voted with you guys on tons of horrible crappy bills? You want 100% or nothing. Heck even today you voted against pay as you go to address the debt. That's a so called republican issue.. they bring it up for a vote and every single republican voted no anyway!!! come on guys.. this is starting to get retarded.
nuumskee 2 years ago
We would not work with Castro or Hugo Chavez either if either of them were our president.
This guys policies are progressive which is a completely opposite form of government than a republic is.
He may not be plotting and if thats the case then he is a prime example of a completely indoctrinated marxist and thinks what he is doing is actually doable and is the Right thing to do.
DOH!!
mrcarter2007 2 years ago
mrcarter2007
What a dope you are.
JohnCap523 2 years ago
@mrcarter2007 You've been brainwashed by Glenn Beck.
Staticnz 2 years ago
You're totally full of crap.
korry74 2 years ago
republic -
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
There is NO reason a republic can't be progressive -
favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters.
There is nothing in the Constitution that disallows progress, or reform. That's why it includes an amendment process.
korry74 2 years ago
When you speak, you expose yourself as a retard.
I especially like the part where you think progressivism is "a completely opposite form of government than a republic is." D'oh! I can just imagine the line of Fox News crap you must've swallowed and half-digested, and are now regurgitating on this board.
And Obama's a marxist...lol. Obama's REAL problem is that he's not even a progressive, and he's way too conciliatory to the self-interested obstructionist dicks in the GOP.
ScinLaeca358 2 years ago
@mrcarter2007 Obama is not even close to a Marxist. Nor is he like Chavez or Castro. The terms facist, communist and socialist have been used incorrectly or out of context since the campaign. Perhaps you could stretch and call him a democratic socialist (that's what Sen Bernie Sanders is) but even that's a big stretch.
hollygolightly66 2 years ago
@mrcarter2007 Oh man, I can see the smoke coming out of your ears...
jholcster 2 years ago
@mrcarter2007 I hope you summarized that from your own individual research on the issues, not just rhetoric you heard from some republican talking point.
NycStreets 2 years ago
Step back from the Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck or whatever other right wing "truth tellers" u listen to...matter of fact leave cable news and radio all together. Look for independent sources based on fact no opinion (media fact check). Then ask yourself if anything you're saying makes any sense. From your passion I can tell that u love your country, I just hate seeing people misguided n brainwashed...castro, chavez, marx? You're smarter than that, put your passions aside and exercise common sense
dope1 2 years ago
mrcarter2007 hates democracy and our republic?
LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE!
unlike Bush or Clinton, the AMERICAN PEOPLE voted for President Obama big time.
AMERICA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!
.
jorge0214 2 years ago
Shut up. You're an idiot. Seriously.
bapsy078 2 years ago
Tone down the Fox News rhetoric. Obama is not Marxist...clearly you don't even know what that means if you think he is. And, governments MUST progress if they plan to keep their citizens happy and healthy. It's about time.
madcatzb 2 years ago 3
Rep Pence, your party did nothing while in power to reduce cost of healthcare, now being forced to come up with ideas-thank you Obama for forcing your party to pay attention to the problem, eventually we'll get something better than what we've had. But to think a minority party gets to write the whole bill when they had a chance while in power seems slightly like you don't really care, you are just backed up against a wall, finally.
pickledpickledpink 2 years ago 22
This bill is centrist. LOL
Tone down the rhetoric. LOL
U dont have room to negotiate w ME. LOL
Yaliemoma 2 years ago
@Yaliemoma
Wiped the floor with them
although the bill is more center-right atm.
coosoorlog 2 years ago
I agree Yaliemoma, lets laugh at something that is totally serious to begin with. Troll.
CupahNoodles 2 years ago
1.) Everything he said was centrist
2.) When people r bringing guns to townhalls, painting the president with joker face paint, calling the president a marxist, communist, nazi, racist, secret muslim terrorist....i think its time to tone down the rhetoric
3.) When republicans begin to FEAR cosigning ANYTHING a democratic may believe (outside of defense of course) for fear of LOSING VOTES, SUPPORT, AN THEIR JOBS...yep thats lil room to negotiate.
This is bigger than right wing-left wing bs
dope1 2 years ago
@Yaliemoma > you. LOL
frostiestastegreat 2 years ago