Good Sentry Spots on Dustbowl (TF2)

[MrKr0be]

i dont now why but i put a sentry on top of were u spawn and shoot everyone with the wrangler

[nilsvanhof]

this is bad 1 spy and everything is down :) i just came for a dislike ?

[DrNazus]

@nilsvanhof OR... you know... you could hit the sapped gear with your wrench to stop the saps...

[nilsvanhof]

@DrNazus i you die by some camping scouts and there is a spy and you have a long ass spawn time ( 15 Seconds ) than your buildings are dead! al of it NOT A SINGLE PIECE LEFT all eaten by the heavy NOM NOM NOM THAT WAS DELICIUSE

[HanoMayonaka]

I don't usually post comments on Youtube, but when I do, its to yell at fucktards who can't play engineer right.

Yes, a lot of those are great spots, but for starters, you missed a fuckton of better spots. The engineers main weapon is NOT the teleporter, it is the sentry gun. It is the main reason people play engi.

Several of the places you placed your sentry are blocked by a dispenser, limiting the sentry's range of attack. Not to mention many places you placed you sentry have blind spots

[wynnefox]

You're decent with placing sentries but you need to work on dispenser placement. several of those you block your sentry.

[mitro2828]

1:06 I found that myself and use it a lot

[tezpokemonmaster]

you should pirate fraps full version gamecam looks awful

[MrPlex123]

the first spot was good if you moved it back about 3 feet because i use that spot i after about ten kills it dies without me sentry tanking

[Hobojedi]

You started off with an engi picking off your sentry -_- Besides, there aren't any awesome positions, build anywhere you're comfortable.

[lolwutscout]

once i was on dustbowl  and me and my team wer all engineers and some guy said check this vid and everyone on our team did but by the time we finished spys have sapped all our sentrys and dispensers >_< lol

[Hitokiri022]

what is it with tf2 and pendulum songs ( not complaining tho :D)

[TheAngryscout]

hey on the last spot u can put the sentry a little bak and it'll cover the tunnel AND most likely not 2 get rocket spam or sticky spam

[narutoshippudenclara]

I feel like a snipe or demo would rape most of these

[s0ng0fst0rms502]

Problem: demos are overpowered htese days :(

[Tygger307]

I was eating my Ben & Jerrys ice cream and looking down the bowl to see if I could spot any cookie dough, and the moment this video goes on I instantly looked to the screen like; "PENDULUM!!" O_o

Hahaha xD

[BiblicalSavvy]

Putting a tele and a sentry next to each other arnt the greatest ideas

[waker8800]

good spots but spy keeps zapping mi stuff -_-"

[cmbdragon666]

1:14 "fuck you up the ass!" 0_0 this is very nice. -_-

[hellsmagexx]

is it for competr or ps3 ps2 ps1 psp pspgo xbox360 or xbox

[cmbdragon666]

@hellsmagexx PC, PS3, Xbox 360, and that's all, I can't belive you thought this might be for PS1 or Xbox. really?

[asfkjrsgcxv112]

TELEPORTERS ARE GOD!!! I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!

[Sycophantichallenger]

Seriously... worst engi ever. Most of these placements are so bad... That's the problem w/ the engineer class. Because engies get a "strong" gun that shoots for them, noobs are able to think they are super good, because they get some kills every round and are middle of the pack w/ their kill count. Pick a class. Demo, Soldier, spy, heavy... I could own these places so bad as any of those classes. Fucking youtube. so gay.

[GriefBusters]

@Sycophantichallenger I've been playing TF2 for four years. ^^;

[lorry3535]

2:08 make a senty at the top of those stairs, i got 21 kills!

[sonikku70]

It's beginning to look a lot like dustbowl...

[seanvan331]

demos must love you

[stealthbeast]

Gotta agree with the others. All of these spots are either obvious, or poor.

[krox17]

0:19 - VERY bad place for sentry

0:56 - worst place to put sentry to.

[GriefBusters]

@krox17 0:56 is on BLU. Not RED.

[krox17]

@GriefBusters

No still very easy to own. The placement it on the kinda roof there near spawn is like the most retarded idea ive ever heard

[krox17]

@GriefBusters

STILL NO!

Useless it will just stand there for no reason

[pikamario99]

Did Daedalus make it a meme to use Pendulum Songs on TF2 vids?

[xodis9]

well good luck cuz u just gave away ure spots so people can destroy them twice as easy...dumb ass

[liltreencan]

If you get shot even once you know where the sentry is so there's no reason not to... dumb ass

[DonnellKennethChann]

Alot of Things can destroy these spots i wouldnt say there are any good spots bcz there is always a way to destroy sumthing or solve it. some players are better than others and they can use they skills to find out a way to kill the sentry easiest thing is UBER!!!

[GriefBusters]

Sentries should never be built for permanence, because any vet can destroy one easily. They're just there to spam most players off of the point, and the very presence of one scares players away. These are just suggestions :)

[CopyrightPropaganda]

@GriefBusters

You're talking about offensive engineering. Herp Derp.

[werewolfgamer96]

no easiest thing is UBER SPY

god kill those pyros

[anteskoog]

i would say that many of these spots ar kinda bad, and if our blu, why even go engi?

[EnigmaTrain]

The idea behind a level 3 sentry gun isn't kills, it's area denial. The very knowledge that a sentry can shoot you if you go to a control point/cart will keep players away, because no one wants to die for their team. So, while an engineer on defense can turtle away for an hour and keep watching out for spies, an offensive engineer can keep pushing the defense back all the way to their point.

[TheresNoFreeUsername]

@EnigmaTrain Wow. I've learned more from your one comment than from my 20 hours of engineering overall. Thanks for outlining the role of the engies. It makes perfect sense now.

[EnigmaTrain]

It also defends the TELEPORTER that you should have up, the engineer's main weapon. It moves teammates up to the front lines instantaneously, helps them defend your sentry and ultimately leads your team to victory.

[WHATISUTUBE]

@EnigmaTrain You do realize that being Red and doing this will result in loss, right? Either way, very interesting. Area denial..never heard it put that way, but you're righht. Although for me, it's always putting it in inconspicuous areas to get kills as well. I mean, snipers can take out sentrys that are easy to spot, so hiding them well is key.

[IsmailAli123]

@anteskoog its good going engie as blue.Your a great help to your team since u got teleporters and dispensers

[carlosthefoxy]

@anteskoog teleporting your team to the front line

[UberMetallMaschine]

0:56 , they can shoot you from the sentries left.

(remember, sentries cant shoot past dispensers

[EvilToaster77]

I built like that once. Demos and soldiers can easily destroy it from inside the tunnel with out being seen.

[Keyboard858]

At :56 that's the worst spot. I've never seen anyone build there.

[EnigmaTrain]

Remember, I'm on Blu at the time. It's defense so that your crappy team won't get owned by pyros. :D

[ManicMetroC0p]

One problem... snipers?

[EnigmaTrain]

I'm on BLU. If you realized that, well, snipers shouldn't be a problem, and if they are, go shotgun 'em?

[cmbdragon666]

@EnigmaTrain but I was once a snipper, and I took down a sentry right near where you put the first one, the engi didn't notice because my pals were sapping his teliporters and dispencer...... you'll get the hang of were to put sentries by experience, trust me...

[JL3Wind]

@cmbdragon666 You do realize he was on the blu team?

[cmbdragon666]

@JL3Wind it has to do with what now?

[JL3Wind]

@cmbdragon666 when you were a sniper, you were on the blu team and you were attacking right? well, the guy in the video was also on the blu team and was attacking. he captured the point and then put the sentry there to keep the defending team away from his spawn so that he could move there freely.

[cmbdragon666]

@JL3Wind which engi. are we talking about, the one with the sentry near the water tower, or the one that was attacking the sentry? please be VERY clear...... -_-

[JL3Wind]

@cmbdragon666 the one at 0:55 . I assume that you were a blu sniper and you destroyed a red (defending) engineers sentry at that spot, right? This guy in the video is on the blu team (attacking) and he placed the sentry there so that noone could go spawncamp in his spawn.

[EvilToaster77]

I built like that once. Demos and soldiers can easily destroy it from inside the tunnel with out being seen.

[starman6444]

@Keyboard858 true; putting it there makes it a prime target to snipers, soldiers, heavies, basically anyone who can do massive damage while staying out of range. It serves no stratiegic purpose, and it can only defend the bridge leading to the tunnel leading to the one way door and the tunnel it is stationed upon. By the time it becomes any use, it would have been probably destroyed.

[pasholnx]

Every spot sucks, pyro and even sniper can take it out

[chojustin]

You're very right about that...

[greg94327]

A sniper won't/ shouldn't be able to take out your sentry alone unless you

a. have your thumb up your ass

b. are away from your sentry

c. he headshots you.

As for demos, it's pretty much impossible to build a sentry that isn't vurnerable to demos. They are the anti engy.

[furiousFR3AK]

nice vid thanx

[oli696969]

lovin the music, pendulum ftw

[asiangamer64]

wow at 1:33, why do u put the dispenser infront of the sentry, thats so easy to destroy

[EnigmaTrain]

Yeah, I know, you end up rebuilding it a ton, and sometimes it's better to place it on the point. HOWEVAH. It really helps to cover most of the point, and if there are other people/sentries around it shouldn't die too much. The usual demospam won't hit it either.

[OMGItsXezuloh]

Most of these, people use all the time anyways

[EnigmaTrain]

A: I usually put my sentries in 'surprising' places, and they usually don't directly help my teammates, no. :/ That's what medics are for... and without my dispenser, my sentry dies, and a lot of times that can determine the game. xD

B: One in a hundred spies can do that. :'D Namely you, and maybe I can do it on a good day. But I seriously congratulate the spy if they can successfully stabn'sap or whatever.

[jamoramajam]

"B" Actually, I suck at spy... but I have been able to do that multiple times... but yeah =D

[Oldaccount10]

(This is PA, I'm too lazy to switch accounts)

Good vid, however, you seem to suffer from the same disease as most engies: Putting their dispensers in one of two places.

A) The place where it will only help the engie defend his sentry, whereas a good dispenser will be a fallback place for teammates.

B) The place where spies can use it to block your sentry's fire as it guns YOU to death before they laugh, cloak, and sap it all.

Otherwise, decent advice for the newbies out there.