Oh yeh, forgot to mention, one of the first videos I watched on his main channel was one where he joked about raping one of his male ex-friends whilst they slept. Tells me all I need to know about his sincerity and understanding towards the subject.
I really wish I had never come across his channels 'cause now I'm actually worried about his affect on everyone around him and his seemingly young and naive fans. I have seen things that cannot be unseen, ugh, why am I worrying so much about strangers on the internet?
Adrienne repeatedly states he didn't rape her, but what he did is the very definition of rape. HE SAID HE WANTED TO WAIT A MONTH UNTIL THEY HAD SEX. He raped her. Even if she says it's not.
2: It may happen a lot but that DOESN'T make it OK to behave that way.
3: It may happen with some people who have an understanding, but these two were almost complete STRANGERS. He should have backed off as soon as she said no the first time.
@FSAthe1st i didnt assume anything 1:47 "when i say i consider this an act of rape", and you spend most of the video talking of this encounter between them but its not the point of the video?
@lejink1 Sock accounts go the ay of the dinosaur. And you weren't put into the kiddie corner because you disagreed with me, fucktard... You were put into the kiddie corner for wilfully and dishonestly misrepresenting my position.
@lejink One more thing... It was Onision himself that insinuated she had accused him of forcing himself on her (which legally IS considered rape), and it wasn't until AFTER I made my response her letter was made known to me.
Even so... Making someone give in to your advances by pressuring them is bypassing wilful consent, and therefore manipulative behaviour... It's almost as bad.
Next time, try watching all my videos on the subject BEFORE you assume what I'm saying.
Who the hell keeps going after being told "no"? If my partner clearly expresses that they're not up for it, then that's about the biggest turn-off for me. Who enjoys doing it with someone who is NOT enjoying it??
I agree with you. Even worse, is he knows that his fans is teens. Most around the ages of 11-16 year olds. They do not need to be hearing this stuff from him. He keeps talking about subjects, that these children really don't need to be hearing. It's adult subjects, and he is disrespecting them by doing this.
@FSAthe1st Dude, although i can see the reason you made a video about it i think this guy is not worth any more attention from you, it's already enough. Btw loved your Not-So-Critical analysis of NephilimFree's "Educating The Dodo". I tip my hat to you sir.
@checkmclassics It is used wherever it is appropriate to do so. Does it matter if you think it's used in polite conversation among friends or on YouTube?
@FSAthe1st i think most people who say it on youtube only say it on youtube. no one used to use that term on youtube. i think i started noticing it about a year about a ago and hear it more and more
@velourkungen Listen to the video again. And while you're at it, listen to what I am referring to. It's not the content of his videos I'm calling rape... It's the accusation of him making a woman engage in sexual activity with him against her wishes.
@zillion167 Better still, FLAG as inappropriate for sexual content, or violence the two [3?] Onision videos on topic. Reason? Remove his income by having him lose YT PARTNER status, letting him go forward freely speaking as the toad that he is.
As soon as a sexual partner says: "No" (whether they are male of female) the opposing party should back off immediately and cool their jets. Pushing forward is basically a sexual assault, IMHO.
@vrooomuk Not that it should matter to me either way, but I'm glad you see it the same way as I do. This is what I've been trying to get into these apologist's heads all this time.
Onision sounds like a cult leader, watch out if you are one of his closest followers. Cult leaders have a way of putting a knife in your back if you turn your face away of them.
@GnosticAtheist Your opinion as to its' value to you personally is completely and utterly irrelevant. Thank you though for telling us all how your opinion is so much more important than the opinion of a girl who is being defamed by a man who has close to a million subscribers.
What difference does it make? It doesn't, before you answer that question. Whether he is naming her directly or not is not the issue. He is attacking her character and influencing the opinions of close to a million people. She does not have anywhere NEAR the same subscriber count as he does. She CANNOT defend herself, so other people are stepping in. I'm sorry if that offends you.
@FSAthe1st No, he is attacking a persona. If she cannot seperate her persona from her individual she should not be online at all. If she is anon, she can leave her account, make a new one or just have fun with it, and it will not influence her real life.
@FSAthe1st "If she is anon, she can leave her account, make a new one or just have fun with it, and it will not influence her real life."
I'm sorry, but now you have lost all possible respect I might have once had. I've just finished sticking WolfSyndrome on a pike for trivialising emotional manipulation and cyberbullying, and now it looks like you're just as bad.
I'd advise you not to comment here with any more such disgraceful trivialising of the situation. I won't be as forgiving next time.
@GnosticAtheist "he can say whatever he likes due to anon."
Legally, sure... Unless it's a case of cyberbullying and she has the potential of being harmed by it. What he is doing is NOT freedom of speech. It's hateful bullying and there are rules against it.
Morally, he's completely in the wrong. Whether you approve or not is none of my concern. I'm GOING TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT. There's not a damn thing you can do to stop me.
So true, he told people not to be mean to his ex and not judge her character and then goes on to slag her off to everybody!!!
littlemisskittt 3 weeks ago
Comment removed
LlygaidSerennog 1 month ago
Oh yeh, forgot to mention, one of the first videos I watched on his main channel was one where he joked about raping one of his male ex-friends whilst they slept. Tells me all I need to know about his sincerity and understanding towards the subject.
LlygaidSerennog 1 month ago
I really wish I had never come across his channels 'cause now I'm actually worried about his affect on everyone around him and his seemingly young and naive fans. I have seen things that cannot be unseen, ugh, why am I worrying so much about strangers on the internet?
LlygaidSerennog 1 month ago
Adrienne repeatedly states he didn't rape her, but what he did is the very definition of rape. HE SAID HE WANTED TO WAIT A MONTH UNTIL THEY HAD SEX. He raped her. Even if she says it's not.
renoloverxoxo 1 month ago
Thank you for having a brain in an ocean of retards good sir.
Honestly, thank you.
WolfenDay 1 month ago
Important! This just came in: watch?v=qMDjL2677gc
Zierota 1 month ago
she said 'we shouldnt' but after a few seconds decided why not.
happens a lot pal
lejink 1 month ago
@lejink 1: I'm NOT your pal.
2: It may happen a lot but that DOESN'T make it OK to behave that way.
3: It may happen with some people who have an understanding, but these two were almost complete STRANGERS. He should have backed off as soon as she said no the first time.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@FSAthe1st neither of the 2 people who were involved are saying it was rape... but you are.
lejink 1 month ago
@lejink Hmm...
1) Don't watch a video properly...
2) Assume a conclusion without actually understanding the point of the video...
3) Make statements that miss the point entirely...
4) PROFIT!
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@FSAthe1st i didnt assume anything 1:47 "when i say i consider this an act of rape", and you spend most of the video talking of this encounter between them but its not the point of the video?
i await this profit you speak of
lejink 1 month ago
@lejink " i didnt assume anything 1:47 "when i say i consider this an act of rape","
Yes... Without bothering to watch the video I posted AFTER this one...
"and you spend most of the video talking of this encounter between them but its not the point of the video?"
That's a misrepresentation of my position. Buh-bye.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@FSAthe1st you block people who disagree with you? you're pathetic :)
no wonder the comments sections are filled with praise!
lejink1 1 month ago
@lejink1 Sock accounts go the ay of the dinosaur. And you weren't put into the kiddie corner because you disagreed with me, fucktard... You were put into the kiddie corner for wilfully and dishonestly misrepresenting my position.
Now kindly fuck off.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@lejink One more thing... It was Onision himself that insinuated she had accused him of forcing himself on her (which legally IS considered rape), and it wasn't until AFTER I made my response her letter was made known to me.
Even so... Making someone give in to your advances by pressuring them is bypassing wilful consent, and therefore manipulative behaviour... It's almost as bad.
Next time, try watching all my videos on the subject BEFORE you assume what I'm saying.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago 4
This Onision fella has a bit of a cult leader look to him. Not a nice dude, it would seem
SpiritKnob 1 month ago
Who the hell keeps going after being told "no"? If my partner clearly expresses that they're not up for it, then that's about the biggest turn-off for me. Who enjoys doing it with someone who is NOT enjoying it??
Must be a power thing.
Gnug215 1 month ago
Onision is a dick, but you are a little too obsessed about something you have no clue about.
TheEthug 1 month ago
@TheEthug Oh look... It's the "You're obsessed" card.
People have the right to make their feelings known. I have made 3 videos on the subject... Out of a total of 100 videos. Obsessed... That's funny.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago 7
I wish I had never heard of onision.
superfisto 1 month ago 2
I agree with you. Even worse, is he knows that his fans is teens. Most around the ages of 11-16 year olds. They do not need to be hearing this stuff from him. He keeps talking about subjects, that these children really don't need to be hearing. It's adult subjects, and he is disrespecting them by doing this.
MileyMessersmith 1 month ago 2
men use this tactic often
jjcrazi 1 month ago
@jjcrazi Men aren't the only ones.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago 4
@FSAthe1st Dude, although i can see the reason you made a video about it i think this guy is not worth any more attention from you, it's already enough. Btw loved your Not-So-Critical analysis of NephilimFree's "Educating The Dodo". I tip my hat to you sir.
linkuei83 1 month ago
@FSAthe1st possibly, but as a female i'm looking from my perspective and from past experience
jjcrazi 1 month ago
Comment removed
bwones 1 month ago
onisions behavior and slut shaming is enough but 2 call it rape dude ?? come on now
velourkungen 1 month ago
@velourkungen why do you say "slut shaming" ? why do you use that term?
checkmclassics 1 month ago
@checkmclassics its the term beeing used to describe what hes doing look around its not ment in a derogatory way
velourkungen 1 month ago
@velourkungen but do you only use that term on youtube? or do you use it in everyday life with your offline friends?
checkmclassics 1 month ago
@checkmclassics It is used wherever it is appropriate to do so. Does it matter if you think it's used in polite conversation among friends or on YouTube?
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@FSAthe1st i think most people who say it on youtube only say it on youtube. no one used to use that term on youtube. i think i started noticing it about a year about a ago and hear it more and more
checkmclassics 1 month ago
@velourkungen Listen to the video again. And while you're at it, listen to what I am referring to. It's not the content of his videos I'm calling rape... It's the accusation of him making a woman engage in sexual activity with him against her wishes.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@velourkungen it had been the words that Onision had used that suggested the crime.
AtheistCitizen 1 month ago
I hope companies can choose to take their ads off Onision's channels at the very least.
zillion167 1 month ago 2
@zillion167 Better still, FLAG as inappropriate for sexual content, or violence the two [3?] Onision videos on topic. Reason? Remove his income by having him lose YT PARTNER status, letting him go forward freely speaking as the toad that he is.
AtheistCitizen 1 month ago
Comment removed
zillion167 1 month ago
As soon as a sexual partner says: "No" (whether they are male of female) the opposing party should back off immediately and cool their jets. Pushing forward is basically a sexual assault, IMHO.
vrooomuk 1 month ago 25
@vrooomuk Not that it should matter to me either way, but I'm glad you see it the same way as I do. This is what I've been trying to get into these apologist's heads all this time.
NO MEANS NO.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
I think that someone should contact authorities. This is... :/
Gaawachan 1 month ago
I wounder what @lacigreen have to say about all this ???
parsonman05 1 month ago
@parsonman05 No idea. She hasn't posted a video about it. Maybe she doesn't wish to comment.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
Look...
Onision is my BFF and he showed my a photo of the girl in question. She was wearing lipstick and blush and everything.
Totally asking for it.
I mean, her skirt didn't even cover her knees or anything. What a slut. And we all know that if you're a slut, you aren't allowed to say no.
It's like a law, or something.
DaToNyOyO 1 month ago
@DaToNyOyO
...
Onision sounds like a cult leader, watch out if you are one of his closest followers. Cult leaders have a way of putting a knife in your back if you turn your face away of them.
masticina 1 month ago 3
Wait... What is this? Is this a police case discussed on youtube? Because if this is not a police case it is as valuable to me as any other rumor.
GnosticAtheist 1 month ago
@GnosticAtheist Your opinion as to its' value to you personally is completely and utterly irrelevant. Thank you though for telling us all how your opinion is so much more important than the opinion of a girl who is being defamed by a man who has close to a million subscribers.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago 12
@FSAthe1st Right, personally involved.
Is the girls name not anon? If it is a case of doc drop onisions channel can be closed. If it is not, then he can say whatever he likes due to anon.
GnosticAtheist 1 month ago
@GnosticAtheist "Is the girls name not anon?"
What difference does it make? It doesn't, before you answer that question. Whether he is naming her directly or not is not the issue. He is attacking her character and influencing the opinions of close to a million people. She does not have anywhere NEAR the same subscriber count as he does. She CANNOT defend herself, so other people are stepping in. I'm sorry if that offends you.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
@FSAthe1st No, he is attacking a persona. If she cannot seperate her persona from her individual she should not be online at all. If she is anon, she can leave her account, make a new one or just have fun with it, and it will not influence her real life.
I am niot offended by youtube activity.
GnosticAtheist 1 month ago
@GnosticAtheist "No, he is attacking a persona. If she cannot seperate her persona from her individual she should not be online at all."
She has only made one response to this entire situation, and then left it at that. She doesn't even have a YouTube presence.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago 3
@FSAthe1st "If she is anon, she can leave her account, make a new one or just have fun with it, and it will not influence her real life."
I'm sorry, but now you have lost all possible respect I might have once had. I've just finished sticking WolfSyndrome on a pike for trivialising emotional manipulation and cyberbullying, and now it looks like you're just as bad.
I'd advise you not to comment here with any more such disgraceful trivialising of the situation. I won't be as forgiving next time.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago 3
@GnosticAtheist "he can say whatever he likes due to anon."
Legally, sure... Unless it's a case of cyberbullying and she has the potential of being harmed by it. What he is doing is NOT freedom of speech. It's hateful bullying and there are rules against it.
Morally, he's completely in the wrong. Whether you approve or not is none of my concern. I'm GOING TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT. There's not a damn thing you can do to stop me.
FSAthe1st 1 month ago
ah onision.. so many things wrong at that side of the screen.
masticina 1 month ago