This is asking all the little kids to dress up like ninjas and then try to destroy private property and try to goad cops into beating them? Well I tell you one thing these little pricks wouldn't know a revolution if it came up and shot rubber bullets at them.
This is total nonsense. All societies throughout history have been Capitalist. Yes China is and the Romans were Capitalist.
To destroy free enterprise capitalism only enables corrupt governments to control the capital and you my friends aint getting nothing. The people should own the capital individually not the gov.
To destroy Capitalism completely leaves anarchy.
I for one do not favor communism or anarchy but free enterprise capitalism with tighter restrictions on greed and corruption.
all societies in history? you couldn't be any more wrong, for two reasons: first, you forget about all kinds of indigenous societies everywhere in the world. second, capitalism is unique in the fact that the exploitation of a vast number of people is no longer based on personal relationships (like slave-owner/slave etc.), but mediated via a lifeless object called money. adam smith, david ricardo, karl marx and even milton friedman wrote about that...
oh, and why not? you don't have to agree with his conclusions (i for one don't), but he's still one of the best analysts of capitalism the world has ever seen.
and were the aztecs a "tribe"? was the roman empire a nation-state?
historically, the term "tribe" was coined by europeans to justify the colonization of the rest of the world, so i'd be careful with that...
How were the Romans not capitalist? Did the emporer not control the capital?
Especially in modern times you could never do away with capital you can only redistribute it. Being a middle class self employed American, my "wealth" has already began being redistributed but it won't be going to help struggling people. It's going to make the super rich more powerful.
I choose to keep control of any capital I may aquire. I choose to give what I can to help people.
Well if the Emperor controlled all the modes of production, then the Roman Empire wouldn't have been capitalist.
What makes a society capitalist is private ownership of the means of production. Marx suggests putting the the means of production into democratic control and under workers councils, i.e. democratically planned economy.
Don't say Marx is not the answer when you don't even understand the basics of Dialectical Materialism.
By definition "capital" is wealth in the form of money property or of other economic value. Any oligharchy is capitalist because they control the capital In these forms of government the people (subjects/serfs) are also capital
Because power corrupts I maintain that your marxist socialist utopia is fantasy It won't work hasn't worked and never will work
Don't assume I don't "understand" your pal Karl.
Free market capitalism is still the best we got though greed and corruption must be purged.
You say it yourself; power corrupts. And since capitalism is a system that put almost all the power in the world in the hands of a few, it will never work. The market isn't the problem, it's the ownership. The only solution is some sort of market-socialism, were the means of production are owned by the employees, not government or great cooperations.
Please give Al Gore a break. At least he was right when he said the interior of the earth was hotter than the sun. Maybe a 10 Trillion Carbon Tax Derivatives will cool the center of the earth ?
he said it was several million degrees...haha. he failed high school science apparently. what a joke, really. has such a man the credibility? i highly doubt his sincerity...
El capitalismo solo puede vivir matando, oprimiendo, explotando y destruyendo. El capitalismo extermina toda forma de vida y acaba con los mejores valores humanos de solidaridad y ayuda mutua.
EL CAPITALISMO MATA; MATAR AL CAPITALISMO ES DEFENSA PROPIA.
Violent is not a solution, but it is society that will bring down this so highly corrupted capitalism system that is becoming poison for the planet...just keep consuming less rubbish and enjoy the scene of a real planetary revolution...
You can only bring capitalism down through revolution, those rich people at the top wont give up their power for shit. Workers have to take it from them.
Capitalism isn't working and we have arguments for it, we have ideas, we have visions. The real revolution takes place in our minds, capitalism stumbles when the faith in it fades and it has nothing to do with riots and violence and defying danish policemen. Fuck "showing a dead system how to die". Fuck trying to turn this into some war, fuck thinking that everyone at cop15 who isnt really against a new climate agreement are in some god damn conspiracy.
wth are you people sick? why are you guys so violent? Don't you have anything better to do then destroy things? So basically you are against freedom, creativity, technology, saving the planet, oppinions, humans, .... are you guys just evil or just stupid?
This video is based on one situation that happened in Denmark in 2007. Some young people had taken over a house in 1982 that hadn't been used for some time. In 2007 the it was decided the house was gonna be ripped down, which made the young people protest. Those pictures that are used in this movie makes it look much more worse then it was. These young people only went crazy for a couple of days and that was it! If you had read about this situation you would see it wasn't that bad...
And when nature destroying lots and lots of cars/houses/schools... like Katrina or else, did you balme capitalists suckers? Lets' burn this dangerous system. And about what belongs to us? Nothing important except you belongs to you!
no riot is just the expression of our anger which is due to the pupose we are fighting against.
riots are getting bigger and better all over the world, wich shows that we have been doing the exact right thing so far.. and we will keep going until we will have our goals
what the hell is wrong with you guys? you take shit all your lives and want to fight the wrong people? go out, throw a stone, burn a car and show your anger instead of hating those who do. you guys are so full of hate and anger, but you apparently don't know why: THIS SYSTE IS FUCKED! you guys should fight it, that means fight all state forces and destroy anything thats in your way. that way you will draw massive attention and followers will come!
Well nobody lives eternally and I don't quite know the statistical datas on mortality (if any exist). Yet I think that the age of magical death wish has gone off the plate of many people nowadays, except for those who live in the past.
Let see what happens in Copenhagen, perhaps the burning car will turn out to be a firework instead :)
Traduction: Why add negativity to a negative situation like the climate change meeting at Copenhagen? The more negative people are with each other, the greater the manipulation from the governments. So my question is there anybody who has to die? nope, it's winter, anough of nature if dying...
What is wrong with you people like violence and destruction will get you anywhere.
Last time theese idiots where in Copenhagen they destroyed kindergardens, libraries, schools, small shop owners stores, burned cars, bicycles normal peoples property.
Hey, you know sometimes I wonder if those you refer to "freaking hippies" aren't actually people exacerbated knowing that changes can be done and aren't done by the politicians. That does not mean I personally defend them, for burning cars or throwing stones. There is obviously a lack of responsibility taking by both sides. One too delayed and one who knows and does nothing.
Yes, show your anger, that's surely the solution... how stupid can you be.... I can only feel sorry about these weak, scared people with their inferiority complexes who needs to burn cars and throw stones at cops to make themselves feel big and powerful... pretending to make a difference! You're surely idiots if you think stones and burning cars will hurt Coca-Cola or McDonalds and bring down capitalism... sorry, but more intelligent people than you are needed to change things...
If you want to bring down capitalism/industrial civilization, don't throw rocks and burn down cars at random. That accomplishes nothing and only pisses off innocent people. Rather, sabotage key points of critical infrastructure, like power plants, airports, major internet nodes and so forth. Then sit back and watch it burn in earnest.
NTAC is a bunch of backpadding idiots organizing a riot which will result in innocent people getting hurt. They are nothing but what they claim they fight. Its ironic really :)
I say we let them take over for a couple of years and before you know it they will end up remaking the same system they fought.. Bunch of cowards.. lock and load.. throw some bricks mofos and I hope the police sends a few 9mm your way.. even thou you guys hide behind 14 year olds in the first row..
If one of you troublemakers stumble upon my daily path I will hit you myself. What a bunch of freaks. You idiots don't get anything now do you. I hope the police will use their guns.
normally i am absolutly for direct action...but please think about the people who travelled from all over the world just to protest. you will fuck their protest up. thats not good. you should combine these two parts of protest: direct action and peacefull action. please just do thinks which make sence and not burning stuff like working class cars. burn the cars of the politicians! i think the polictians just want senceless riot. so think about what you are going to do. shut cop15 down! alerta!
So, they want to protest companies burning things and dumping toxic smoke and chemicals into the atmosphere by burning things and dumping toxic smoke and chemicals into the atmosphere. o....k.
nooo we are going to fuck them well up, show our anger that this cop15 is just bullshit. it's not about the climate it's just about thei fucked up system. we want them to do something about the climate but they won't, and no-one will in a capitalistic society. profit is everything for the big companies like gm, coca cola, etc. and they don't care what it takes to eanr money. so if they won't do anything who will? politicians? give me a break as if they ruled our world.. so what to do? FIGHT BACK
What would happen if everybody on the planet refused to vote? 0 vote casted means 0 politician elected.
Could this help themfinally understand.
You know sometimes SILENT (refusal to vote, strike at work) anger works very well too. Ending up in jail because you are very angry may not be the solution to this problem.
funny how everyone comments on the burning cars and the stones thrown, but no one gives a shit about the fact that 30 000 kids die of hunger every day, that around 100 000 civilians died in iraq for oil profits, that climate change is threatening the lives of the poorer half of the world's population...
i think there's a word for that: it's called "hypocrisy"!
i really don't know what a discussion with someone who has obviously never even bothered to read up on a couple of historic-materialistic theories on economy is supposed to bring.
just so you get the general picture: it wouldn't change a thing if i gave half of my measly income away. private, donation-based welfare only prolongs suffering - the goal should be to abolish it.
Strict gun control policy is a good idea if people want or wish to stay alive, at least that's what I always thought. Again, there are policies for knives too. Yet in every home there are knives to use during mealtime, so knives aren't weapons, only tools, same thing goes for commercial planes there aren't weapons only passengers and goods carriers etc...It's the use people make of those tools that either protect others or deny them their lives. What do you think?
Hm, never seen in history, that burning something down and terrorise people (and the people in Copenhagen will feel terrorised if this "campain" starts really) leads to a better system. No, so called "activists" who try to change things with brute force are the later dictators, suppressing the people. No thank you, in my humble opinion, this is a real shitty way to change thing. And i hope, this cop15 action will be prevented asap.
I don't get it. Why do you think burning cars will help? It will hurt innocent people, especially those whose insurances won't cover a burned-down car, those with limited-liability policies. Protest all you want, in fact I (and many others) WANT you to protest, to show the world what your opinions are. But please do it peacefully, otherwise you're justing turning people against you.
denke doch einmal an die ganzen Kosten und Produktionsmittel die aufgewendet werden müssen um das auto in seine Einzelteile zu zerlegen. Protest wird nicht erhört wenn es ausserhalb der Innenstadt passiert, da helfen auch keine 50.000 Leute. Am Ende werden sich die medien aber über die Leute berichten die es sich in der Innenstadt gemütlich gemacht haben.Dies ist no Aufruf zur Gewalt
black block is against everything i know capitalism and political persons are doing many mistakes but stones and burning cars are not for a change ! climate and the world wide hunger must be stopped , but how ? the political persons helps monato to conntroll the éarth ...=(
sorry for bad english greets from germany protest peacefulll
And I think it's wrong to say that you can express with anything else but violence. Kind of a medieval statement. Scream and yell if you want to, remember that you got the freedom of speech :)
i can scream as loud i want but no.one will give a shit. but if i burn a few cars and create chaos in a big city, things look a lot better :D and by the way, what car do you drive, so that i'll be able to look for it in copenhagen xD
hey, after burning a few expensive cars in Copenhagen, make sure to take on board with Obama for his Nobel Peace Prize, you could get the Nobel Anarchist Prize
And by the way, a lot of you seem to have the opinion that everyone who got power is evil, sinister and wants to control other people. Where do you got that from? Is it so hard to imagine that they would actually do what they believe is best for the population?
However several things prevent this from happening in the modern society. First of all the divison of the power in 3 and then right the freedom of speach. In a "democracy" like Iran, these things don't exists. So no democracy is not perfect, but it is working in a very good way i the West where all of these things to prevent abuse of the system exists
So by looking at the diffrent sources criticly I create my opinion mainly on reliable information. I don't just base my opinion on what is told in the media. So im not the mind controlled zombie you're trying to depict me like.
maxjoin: Denmark has just recently taken another big step towards being a policestate as Germany did the after RAF's activities in the 70's by changing the law because they feared a citizens uprise.. This now means that the police can stop any citizens and frisk them, stop a demonstration and arrest everyone without any reason at all.. You now face 10000 kr fines and 40 days in jail if you are caught in a demonstration. Where is this democratic freedom you so blatantly believe in?
And yes i know your not the only one that thinks like that. Every time there is some international meeting, you show up. Some 10.000 when your the most. But let me tell you something, there is 731 mill living in Europe. So no you're not only one. But 99,99% don't agree with you.
10 000? nice one xD we're about 20 000 only in berlin... and what makes you believe in something? is it your intuition or has somebody told you to believe it? you now the answer, you're just afraid of ot, afraid of reality. i'm afraid to many people don't want to open there eyes to what's happening in our grusome world, and if you don't understand that, then i can't talk to you. you know i'm right really, don't you?
oh 20000? I'm sorry. That's a lot more compared to europe's 731 mill... I create my opinion based on the world around me and myself. And by world I mean my freinds, my family, the community I live in, the media and yes, even what the government tells me! Based on all of those things I create my opinion. And how can i be sure that my opinion is based on the right information? I can't! And neither can you. But I can sort out what seems to be incorrect or dosen't match with other information
All the "democratic" rights you claim you have were achieved by disobidience and a civil uprise against the authoroties.. If you're defending "democracy", then you will have to know what it means..
The law you are talking about will never be used if you stay peaceful. So i got no problem with it. The only group it will hit is violent leftwingers like yourself, so i got no probem with that. The law was created to keep you guys from destroying copenhagen again. People in Denmark got the right to protest, it just have to be peaceful.
and by the way, fsvsdv3vasdvsdvasdv, if you we're peaceful from the start, the law would never have been passed. So you're actually creating your so called police state yourself :)
policestatess start then when democratie ends. everybody has a theoretical right to demonstrate and express their oppinion. how is it democratic, if state repression goes so far that people all over the world are beeing arrested for demonstrating? and if we didn't demonstrate, but just take whatever they tells, what would we be? take for exemple the french revolution: a little group of people governed over all the rest of the country. it is only because people fought back that they became free
Im not talking about the world. Im talking about demonstrating violently in Denmark, a democratic state. This is not the 17th century, where no human rights existed. You got nothing to fight.
we have nothing to fight?? what's wrong with you? haven't you been following our conversations or are you really so narrow minded that you can't read between the lines? we are fighting for the abolition of capitalism, freedom of speech and against the police-states worldwide! for a free, socialist/ anarch-syndicalist world with no states, borders, religions, police forces and any govermentary ruling!
You keep talking about policestates worldwide and freedom of speach. Well then don't burn cars in Europe, because there is no police state and we got freedom of speach (more or less in some eastern european countries). I would love to live in a world with no borders, states, religions, police forces. But in order to do that, every single individual of the 6 bilion in the world should get a long. That's not really going to happen any time soon... and by that i mean never.
but how do you express anger, if not by showing it openly? peaceful demonstartions are good, but don't achieve anything. only hard actions attract attention/ reaction. if we burn a big expensive car it is to attack the rich bastards owning it, not just sinple rampage.
I think is wrong to say peaceful demonstrations don't achieve anything. Just look at the civil rights movement in USA. Hard/Violent action does attract a lot of attention and reaction, but most of the time it's bad. In denmark we got a new law giving harsh punishment to people who demonstrate violently, because of previous encounters with violent riots led by the extreme left.
And you can't know if it's a car owned by a rich person. Could be a person who used all of their savings on it.
I think you raise a GOOD question. Burning cars won't help, organised protests bring changes, I think. Forcing the government to hear what the population has to say in open debate might be a way. Why not invite the leaders in those protest. Think of it the other way around, they are NEVER included in protest, kind of rejected out of their fear or because they already know. Every protest should have an immediate answer, everytime. What do you think?
If you want to burn the big expensive cars, why not protest in Hellerup or elsewhere in the "Whiskey Belt"? I live in Copenhagen and I've seen the burned-down cars. 99% of them were perfectly ordinary 5-10 year old cars owned by average people, people like you and me.
you can't handle that most of the western population don't support your violence, and instead you make excuses that the democratic system isen't working. Grow up and realise the fact and the reality. People may be influensed by the media, but in general they vote for what they belive in, regardless of what the media tells them
you say violence is not a solution but what other means do we have? do you really think wrinting letters will do anythingß do you really think that those fat, rich arseholes give a shit about us?
if we don't show our anger who will?
protest is, saying that and that i don't like. resistence is making sure that and that won't happen again. so let's go out there and kick some arses and make capitalism history!
Do you realy believe that destroying the city would improve your cause? If you protested peaceful, you could send a message by the number of people that came to the demo, not the number a cars you burnt. And you're right. No one will show your anger if you don't show, simply because they don't share it! You activsts allways ignores that fact that the currenty political system is the one the major part of the population has voted for. You're narrow minded and you only think on yourself
bullshit! the majority of people are unhappy, hard working and peanuts earning people, while a few rich bastards exploit the population. people take media such as television or radio as their profets and believe every word they say. same for our beloved politicans... do you think that there isn't a reason why for exemple in germany ALL left wing activists are permanently beeing surveyed by the BND (german FBI) ? i got arrested for having written and produced flyers saying fight back! (...)
this capitalist system is only good for the few arseholes that run our countries, the world! industrie/ money rules the world, not the population... and then there are alwys people like you that will seriously believe all that bullshit they teach you at school, university and in the medias
There is a reason why they teach me all the "bullshit" in school, and thats because there is proof that is how things works. And i not only being presented with the capatalist way to run things, but with all the political systems, and i can then choose what to believe. You just made the conclusion, that because schools, universities and medias is owned by the government, the population must be brain washed by the government. This is the 21th century, not nazi germany or communist russia.
so you think there is no police state? dictatorchips aren't such a wild idea as you say. they are possible, just we are beeing tought that we live in a "democratie". you don't want to think further than your school-books.. there is a reason why you have to read this and that and are forced to do what our goverments want -> school systems. you don't have a choice of what you learn.. our system is not only making a fool of us all, but also destroying our planet! stop capitalism!
Yes it is. If i don't want the leader of my country to be the leader of my country, then i don't vote for him/her. In a dictatorship you can't. And stop talking about a police state. Every time you activists gather and you're met by a large force of police officers, you say it's a police state. Of course you're met by a large force of police, cause they have kind of learnt that you begin to destroy things, when you don't agree with the politicans decisions. Normal people vote.
"normal" people? and what about not a police state? who is gonna protect us from the cops? if we don't show any kind of resistence to their fucked up system, what are we then, normal? freedom of speech is not granted, or why do cops try to destrroy ous subcultures, demos and any other left wing activities?
as soon as you go out to demonstrate, you are an ennemy to your state who will send cops out to bash you. so i'm not gonna let my lovely goverment to whatever it likes. no i'm gonna sabage any kind of police force, or any kind of stately repression. and i'm not the only oone who thinks like that, or why do you think that every time they have a conference or a meeting which is only there to globalise the systems, we are there fighting back?
What the fuck are you talking about moron!? Why come everybody else can go out and demonstrate without the police tries to dissolve the demos? because they weren't agressive like you ignorant narrowminded left wing activists in the first place! if you don't thorw stones at them, they don't hit you with their sticks. it's as simple as that. And it's not a fucked up system*? there is police to make sure that the laws that the majority of the people have vote for. Left wings just ignore that fact.
3: See you on the streets - With or without burning brigades? - I don't care - But the summit must be stopped, if not by the people, then who will increase the elites power to rule, who will make sure that people is finally put before profit?!
NB: Even the lead editor of Finalcial Times has commented, approved and agreed in the fact that capitalism is not going to last. It is simply selfdestroying!
2: Burn down the city? - In Seattle it kickstarted the whole world in a fight against WHO, so dont come here and say it doesn't work. Is it wise as an argument? NO, allways try every other option first.
So, is there other options? As far the discussion is closed, the decissions made to try and safe the climate is ONLY valid and useable if it comes from the main reason of the (all ready started) catastrophy that will eventually end the world as we know it!
1: Do your objective research and you will find out how these meetings - Like G8 etc. - does nothing but ruin the, not really existing, oppertunities for the 3.world-countries to evolve. In the case of COP15 the money and profit is WAY more important to any westernworld politician attending the summit.
what is there to say... Its the same losers all over, they are going to come to Copenhagen to get a little meaning in their lifes. Whatever works for them, i just dont see why they cant find a more peacefull way to do it. But then again, i have got the IQ of a labrat..
Yes, you sadly have the IQ of a labrat. And if you really think that it's all about the violence, then you're misled. It's about stopping the COP15 to happen, using mainly non-violent direct action. Things are probably going to break, but that's a minority. Withouth the violence, media wouldn't care anyway, they can just go on with their daily business by writing their biased shit.
Fact is that you wont achieve jackshit other than making Copenhagen a bit less pleasant to be in... You talk about overthrowing world capitalism, get real. Like a bunch of stone throwing saps are going to achieve anything other than entering their own little dream world a little futher. My guess is that the top story concerning you, will be how a police officer went over the line and brutally beat some 17 year old girl to a bloody pulp. It will be up for one week, then forgotten again.
Yeah, but is it me or my friends fault that massmedia only care about profit and headlines? I do believe in overthrowing worldwide capitalism, although I don't think it's time for militant war. Atleast not in Scandinavia.
I really don't care what you think about the movement, you obviously don't have any hope for the future. I apologize for caring about people and the health of our planet enough to actually believe that acting against the wrongdoers is the right thing to do. Fuck you.
Sad that so many good folks are so misguided. Clearly I don't support wanton violence, nor the destruction of your beautiful city. But you must realize that the evil you have invited to your fair town is disgraceful. Just remember how Denmark lost its sovereignty to the EU: deception. Do you really want global government and a global tax/control? Why not instead set up a gallows and hang each lying MFer as they arrive at the Bella? Go here on Youtube and weep:
Sick people - stop that foolish campaign. It's always all right to demonstrate, but do it in a proper way if you really have a constructive message. People will never listen to you if you set things on fire.
And by the way, there's no reason Franz Ferdinand should be associated with this. It makes me sad to see their music used in such a stupid video.
war on capitalism, war on drugs, war on terrorism... I feel like turning on my playstation.. Please do not burn Copenhagen since you will make a lot of innocent people regret. Murder the decision makers instead.
capitalism kills people every day. any time people thow a rock for stopping it, the reacts are: "how DARE you" and "this pisses me of." why isn't anybody saying that to the people responsible for the death of millions?
Stupid fuck, go read a fucking book. Do you even have a friggin' alternative?
"Capitalism" kills people every day, you say. Be so kind as to list me the kind of society you want instead. Communism??? Clerical rule, like in the Middle East???
If your intentions are to burn down my city...
I fucking hope you muster the balls to come to this summit and get your head bashed in!!! The world will be a better place without you. Stupid illeterate fuck.
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Apparently democracy is not good enough, this was implied as Denmark is a democraic society, a socialistic society even. But psycotic left wing ignorants who are convinced that any prosperous state or country is capitalistic, seems to disregard this fact.
Democracy sounds nice, but when it is a question between two puppet sides that are just a bunch of paid of bilderbergers and free masons that you can choose every 4th year? And when they do some crazy shit we should get the blame for choosing him/her.....
Maybe so, but it stil beat dictatorship any day. As long as no better alternative is offered, deal with it and try to change the system in the spirit of real democracy.
Still, when ignorant dumbfucks come to my city, threatniing to burn it down in the name of fighting capitalism. I hope they all die, face down in a pool of liquid shit along with their banners and sick twisted ideals and mantras.
Well then let me hear what you suggest instead of democracy.
One of the things I think is fundemental wrong with left wing activists is that they only work with extremes. There is no middle way.
Democracy is not perfect, every single individual doesn't have the same direct power. I believe that is why you call democracy "evil", that the guys in the top theoraticly could do as they want.
What you do is not stop the meeting, but burn off old buildings, that is like a treasure. When u burn stuff, there comes Co2 helps global warming, and our planet will be destroyed even sooner, becouse of you! I will try to stop thesse videos to get on the internet becouse i care about our world, and our treasurres!
Never trust a cop? Ha! Never trust a guy wich do this stuff.
Come to Denmark !!!!, let have some fun with the them danish cops. Them danish cops are so fucking funny. All them funny cops`s wifes and there kids are so worry about cop15 - All the cops from high to "trainers" are called to Copenhagen.
So all the proviens city in Denamr are without them funny cops. So go to Århus or others big city in Denmak and demonstrate.
Those lefties should be deported on an island somewhere. Or anything else, just get rid of them. What can they do other than destroy what it took other people centuries to build?
Yeeeeah, because anarchy is answer to freedom... fucking tards...
How DARE you suggesting that burning my country's capital will change anything.. If anything, it'll just make you look less intelligent by comparision to the people you don't agree with. Your "enemy" wins every time you act like a fucking moron.
Being a socialist, I dislike capitalism as much as you do, but if you fuckheads come to Copenhagen and start trouble by destroying things and lighting fires, I guarantee you; you will be the ones who get burned!
When you destroy things in cities like this, you're damaging the common man, and if you didn't bother following the latest Danish election, CENTRAL Copenhagen is run by us socialists.... not the capitalists!
Did u use sony vegas?
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OYUNCAKLAR 1 year ago
I will only riot against socialism or communism, capitalism is the best we have right now.
BillyzaCoon 1 year ago
FUCK CRAPITALISM!!!
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
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if its not money what rulez the world.. what should it be..hmm some anti fachists burning cars? lol i prefer money
KaynaTax 2 years ago
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pubokiazm 2 years ago
Man can find meaning in life, short and perilous as it is, only through devoting himself to society.
The economic anarchy of capitalist society as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evil. (Albert Einstein, 1949)
Einstein said it all.
pubokiazm 2 years ago
This is asking all the little kids to dress up like ninjas and then try to destroy private property and try to goad cops into beating them? Well I tell you one thing these little pricks wouldn't know a revolution if it came up and shot rubber bullets at them.
JCJ77 2 years ago
fuck you fucking commies suck a donkey dick and die
fosterland88 2 years ago
This is total nonsense. All societies throughout history have been Capitalist. Yes China is and the Romans were Capitalist.
To destroy free enterprise capitalism only enables corrupt governments to control the capital and you my friends aint getting nothing. The people should own the capital individually not the gov.
To destroy Capitalism completely leaves anarchy.
I for one do not favor communism or anarchy but free enterprise capitalism with tighter restrictions on greed and corruption.
scopeman82 2 years ago
all societies in history? you couldn't be any more wrong, for two reasons: first, you forget about all kinds of indigenous societies everywhere in the world. second, capitalism is unique in the fact that the exploitation of a vast number of people is no longer based on personal relationships (like slave-owner/slave etc.), but mediated via a lifeless object called money. adam smith, david ricardo, karl marx and even milton friedman wrote about that...
assssi 2 years ago
@assssi
I hadrdly meant tribes and don't go quoting Karl Marx to me.
scopeman82 2 years ago
oh, and why not? you don't have to agree with his conclusions (i for one don't), but he's still one of the best analysts of capitalism the world has ever seen.
and were the aztecs a "tribe"? was the roman empire a nation-state?
historically, the term "tribe" was coined by europeans to justify the colonization of the rest of the world, so i'd be careful with that...
assssi 2 years ago
@assssi
How were the Romans not capitalist? Did the emporer not control the capital?
Especially in modern times you could never do away with capital you can only redistribute it. Being a middle class self employed American, my "wealth" has already began being redistributed but it won't be going to help struggling people. It's going to make the super rich more powerful.
I choose to keep control of any capital I may aquire. I choose to give what I can to help people.
Marx not the answer.
scopeman82 2 years ago
Well if the Emperor controlled all the modes of production, then the Roman Empire wouldn't have been capitalist.
What makes a society capitalist is private ownership of the means of production. Marx suggests putting the the means of production into democratic control and under workers councils, i.e. democratically planned economy.
Don't say Marx is not the answer when you don't even understand the basics of Dialectical Materialism.
hithlum 2 years ago 2
By definition "capital" is wealth in the form of money property or of other economic value. Any oligharchy is capitalist because they control the capital In these forms of government the people (subjects/serfs) are also capital
Because power corrupts I maintain that your marxist socialist utopia is fantasy It won't work hasn't worked and never will work
Don't assume I don't "understand" your pal Karl.
Free market capitalism is still the best we got though greed and corruption must be purged.
scopeman82 2 years ago
@scopeman82
You say it yourself; power corrupts. And since capitalism is a system that put almost all the power in the world in the hands of a few, it will never work. The market isn't the problem, it's the ownership. The only solution is some sort of market-socialism, were the means of production are owned by the employees, not government or great cooperations.
johnnyrareuqueer 1 year ago
@johnnyrareuqueer
I meant corporations, not cooperations xD
johnnyrareuqueer 1 year ago
Please give Al Gore a break. At least he was right when he said the interior of the earth was hotter than the sun. Maybe a 10 Trillion Carbon Tax Derivatives will cool the center of the earth ?
louis12346 2 years ago
he said it was several million degrees...haha. he failed high school science apparently. what a joke, really. has such a man the credibility? i highly doubt his sincerity...
pubokiazm 2 years ago
Fuck the police!
filiph3 2 years ago
Yay, going to CPH on thursday, hope there's gonna be some sort of mass fight. Cool.
KouroshDK 2 years ago
El capitalismo solo puede vivir matando, oprimiendo, explotando y destruyendo. El capitalismo extermina toda forma de vida y acaba con los mejores valores humanos de solidaridad y ayuda mutua.
EL CAPITALISMO MATA; MATAR AL CAPITALISMO ES DEFENSA PROPIA.
CubaDiario 2 years ago
Violent is not a solution, but it is society that will bring down this so highly corrupted capitalism system that is becoming poison for the planet...just keep consuming less rubbish and enjoy the scene of a real planetary revolution...
seyoumeye 2 years ago
You can only bring capitalism down through revolution, those rich people at the top wont give up their power for shit. Workers have to take it from them.
hithlum 2 years ago 13
@hithlum LOLANARCHISTS
Antiks72 1 year ago
Hang al sweinhunte very high!!! Hober Politied skyder jer! Pigs! Svin! Pervert!
magasin405 2 years ago 2
@magasin405 Learn to speak english, swedish, danish, and german you stupid motherfucking cunt piece of shit.
MagnitudePerson 1 year ago
Try to find "113 shots" on youtube, fired on the night between the 18 and 19th of may 1993 and see what the danish police is capable of... ;o)
Danish4ever77 2 years ago
a Reply for you talking about us finding
the video 113 shots, do you ekspect sympaty ????? tell me this how many stones where thown ???? bullets kill
stone kill get the point
so everybody see this movie at see what activists are capable off,,
+ in danish law, cops can shoot when lives are in danger,,
so only 113 next time the cops should bring more ammo ;0)
CornerZone 2 years ago
Danish police is ready for you. Ready and waiting. They have got new weapons, and be sure they know how to use them.
Danish4ever77 2 years ago
fuck. FUCKKKKKKKKK!!!
ppericodelosppalotes 2 years ago
Capitalism isn't working and we have arguments for it, we have ideas, we have visions. The real revolution takes place in our minds, capitalism stumbles when the faith in it fades and it has nothing to do with riots and violence and defying danish policemen. Fuck "showing a dead system how to die". Fuck trying to turn this into some war, fuck thinking that everyone at cop15 who isnt really against a new climate agreement are in some god damn conspiracy.
Kaniiinis 2 years ago
Fuck al Kommunists!!
magasin405 2 years ago
yes,fuck al Kommunists!!!
otoskorceni 2 years ago
fuck the system hard
WannaExpressYourSelf 2 years ago
wth are you people sick? why are you guys so violent? Don't you have anything better to do then destroy things? So basically you are against freedom, creativity, technology, saving the planet, oppinions, humans, .... are you guys just evil or just stupid?
DaFreak4ever 2 years ago
This video is based on one situation that happened in Denmark in 2007. Some young people had taken over a house in 1982 that hadn't been used for some time. In 2007 the it was decided the house was gonna be ripped down, which made the young people protest. Those pictures that are used in this movie makes it look much more worse then it was. These young people only went crazy for a couple of days and that was it! If you had read about this situation you would see it wasn't that bad...
combine910 2 years ago
@DaFreak4ever
I get why your name is "DaFreak", you freaking idiot.
We're not against freedom, creativity, technology, the planet, opinions nor humans.
We're for all these things, you should rather ask those questions to those attending COP 15.
Educate yourself, people.
Manutinus 2 years ago
Don't you mean get retarded? I know you are in favor of all those but your actions even though you don't know it are working to destroy all that.
DaFreak4ever 2 years ago
i fapped to this, post moar :)
marouan2812 2 years ago
Reported for illegal use of the Kaiser Chiefs, have fun making your own fire song!
conqie 2 years ago 4
:D
youtube already know you fool ...and the video will stay with the song :)))))
Abolish capitalism
burn Cop15
Altergehthierauchmal 2 years ago 2
Then i will see your sisters boyfriend first hand, perhaps give him something to remember us by
Droutch 2 years ago
GO TO COP 15 - fight for the climate...
sortkapel 2 years ago
I can't w8 for these guys to start there riot's.. so i can look at them on the news when the police show them some old school Police brutality
CbmxD 2 years ago 2
You said it CbmxD, TV2 NEWS FTW!
My sister's boyfriend is a policeman and is going to see the riots firsthand... I envy him...
tdctop 2 years ago
i feel sorry for copenhagen. our proud capital in flames : /
just over the egde i'd say.
Essah15 2 years ago
I hope you fucking die! I hope the police shoot you like dogs!
emilrude 2 years ago
Police officers don't shoot dogs. They have police dogs :)
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
Climate-gate.
Thanks hackers. :-)
provocolis 2 years ago
And when nature destroying lots and lots of cars/houses/schools... like Katrina or else, did you balme capitalists suckers? Lets' burn this dangerous system. And about what belongs to us? Nothing important except you belongs to you!
Moizzze 2 years ago
no riot is just the expression of our anger which is due to the pupose we are fighting against.
riots are getting bigger and better all over the world, wich shows that we have been doing the exact right thing so far.. and we will keep going until we will have our goals
cymru61 2 years ago
Burning cars in big cities is nature friendly - Let's take coaches and trains...
Moizzze 2 years ago 2
what the hell is wrong with you guys? you take shit all your lives and want to fight the wrong people? go out, throw a stone, burn a car and show your anger instead of hating those who do. you guys are so full of hate and anger, but you apparently don't know why: THIS SYSTE IS FUCKED! you guys should fight it, that means fight all state forces and destroy anything thats in your way. that way you will draw massive attention and followers will come!
cymru61 2 years ago
I hope somebody will kill those people who burn other peoples stuff, I hope you fucking die!!
emilrude 2 years ago
Well nobody lives eternally and I don't quite know the statistical datas on mortality (if any exist). Yet I think that the age of magical death wish has gone off the plate of many people nowadays, except for those who live in the past.
Let see what happens in Copenhagen, perhaps the burning car will turn out to be a firework instead :)
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
what the fuck. what are you trying to say? :\
marouan2812 2 years ago
Traduction: Why add negativity to a negative situation like the climate change meeting at Copenhagen? The more negative people are with each other, the greater the manipulation from the governments. So my question is there anybody who has to die? nope, it's winter, anough of nature if dying...
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
What is wrong with you people like violence and destruction will get you anywhere.
Last time theese idiots where in Copenhagen they destroyed kindergardens, libraries, schools, small shop owners stores, burned cars, bicycles normal peoples property.
I will fuck you up if I see off your kind.
Vandflaske4545 2 years ago
Yes pls come freaking hippies. We will be ready to kick ur fucking ass.
But you should go and dig some wells in africa insteAD.
Fucking hippie loosers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gymnocalysium 2 years ago
Hey, you know sometimes I wonder if those you refer to "freaking hippies" aren't actually people exacerbated knowing that changes can be done and aren't done by the politicians. That does not mean I personally defend them, for burning cars or throwing stones. There is obviously a lack of responsibility taking by both sides. One too delayed and one who knows and does nothing.
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
Yes, show your anger, that's surely the solution... how stupid can you be.... I can only feel sorry about these weak, scared people with their inferiority complexes who needs to burn cars and throw stones at cops to make themselves feel big and powerful... pretending to make a difference! You're surely idiots if you think stones and burning cars will hurt Coca-Cola or McDonalds and bring down capitalism... sorry, but more intelligent people than you are needed to change things...
kasperns 2 years ago
Jeez this video is stupid, go on and burn down the homes of innocent people... What about fighting for something more meaningful, morons...
hoyer1337 2 years ago
Lol lol lol, wankers! I remember Benjamin and hopefully we will have more cases like that efter the summit!
mosa03ab 2 years ago
If you want to bring down capitalism/industrial civilization, don't throw rocks and burn down cars at random. That accomplishes nothing and only pisses off innocent people. Rather, sabotage key points of critical infrastructure, like power plants, airports, major internet nodes and so forth. Then sit back and watch it burn in earnest.
Glargl 2 years ago 2
NTAC is a bunch of backpadding idiots organizing a riot which will result in innocent people getting hurt. They are nothing but what they claim they fight. Its ironic really :)
I say we let them take over for a couple of years and before you know it they will end up remaking the same system they fought.. Bunch of cowards.. lock and load.. throw some bricks mofos and I hope the police sends a few 9mm your way.. even thou you guys hide behind 14 year olds in the first row..
lumskkat 2 years ago
If one of you troublemakers stumble upon my daily path I will hit you myself. What a bunch of freaks. You idiots don't get anything now do you. I hope the police will use their guns.
BigDudeSuperstar 2 years ago
normally i am absolutly for direct action...but please think about the people who travelled from all over the world just to protest. you will fuck their protest up. thats not good. you should combine these two parts of protest: direct action and peacefull action. please just do thinks which make sence and not burning stuff like working class cars. burn the cars of the politicians! i think the polictians just want senceless riot. so think about what you are going to do. shut cop15 down! alerta!
mopunkscene 2 years ago
So, they want to protest companies burning things and dumping toxic smoke and chemicals into the atmosphere by burning things and dumping toxic smoke and chemicals into the atmosphere. o....k.
DoctorZero 2 years ago
nooo we are going to fuck them well up, show our anger that this cop15 is just bullshit. it's not about the climate it's just about thei fucked up system. we want them to do something about the climate but they won't, and no-one will in a capitalistic society. profit is everything for the big companies like gm, coca cola, etc. and they don't care what it takes to eanr money. so if they won't do anything who will? politicians? give me a break as if they ruled our world.. so what to do? FIGHT BACK
cymru61 2 years ago
May I please ask you a question.
What would happen if everybody on the planet refused to vote? 0 vote casted means 0 politician elected.
Could this help themfinally understand.
You know sometimes SILENT (refusal to vote, strike at work) anger works very well too. Ending up in jail because you are very angry may not be the solution to this problem.
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
funny how everyone comments on the burning cars and the stones thrown, but no one gives a shit about the fact that 30 000 kids die of hunger every day, that around 100 000 civilians died in iraq for oil profits, that climate change is threatening the lives of the poorer half of the world's population...
i think there's a word for that: it's called "hypocrisy"!
assssi 2 years ago
Frank way of bringing your opinion forward, yet, point taken assssi quite correcty.
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
so do you give half off your money to the
30.000 dying kids??
or are you just bitching.
CornerZone 2 years ago
i really don't know what a discussion with someone who has obviously never even bothered to read up on a couple of historic-materialistic theories on economy is supposed to bring.
just so you get the general picture: it wouldn't change a thing if i gave half of my measly income away. private, donation-based welfare only prolongs suffering - the goal should be to abolish it.
assssi 2 years ago
i guess this is why its a bad idea to live in a country that has strict gun control laws
gigs015 2 years ago
Strict gun control policy is a good idea if people want or wish to stay alive, at least that's what I always thought. Again, there are policies for knives too. Yet in every home there are knives to use during mealtime, so knives aren't weapons, only tools, same thing goes for commercial planes there aren't weapons only passengers and goods carriers etc...It's the use people make of those tools that either protect others or deny them their lives. What do you think?
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
Hm, never seen in history, that burning something down and terrorise people (and the people in Copenhagen will feel terrorised if this "campain" starts really) leads to a better system. No, so called "activists" who try to change things with brute force are the later dictators, suppressing the people. No thank you, in my humble opinion, this is a real shitty way to change thing. And i hope, this cop15 action will be prevented asap.
ThePyromir 2 years ago
I don't get it. Why do you think burning cars will help? It will hurt innocent people, especially those whose insurances won't cover a burned-down car, those with limited-liability policies. Protest all you want, in fact I (and many others) WANT you to protest, to show the world what your opinions are. But please do it peacefully, otherwise you're justing turning people against you.
henrikstevn 2 years ago
denke doch einmal an die ganzen Kosten und Produktionsmittel die aufgewendet werden müssen um das auto in seine Einzelteile zu zerlegen. Protest wird nicht erhört wenn es ausserhalb der Innenstadt passiert, da helfen auch keine 50.000 Leute. Am Ende werden sich die medien aber über die Leute berichten die es sich in der Innenstadt gemütlich gemacht haben.Dies ist no Aufruf zur Gewalt
remix0991 2 years ago
black block is against everything i know capitalism and political persons are doing many mistakes but stones and burning cars are not for a change ! climate and the world wide hunger must be stopped , but how ? the political persons helps monato to conntroll the éarth ...=(
sorry for bad english greets from germany protest peacefulll
TheCreativeFingers 2 years ago
nö
cymru61 2 years ago
Autos abwracken indem man die anzündet ist immernoch umweltfreundlicher als wenn man die "legal" schrotten würde.
remix0991 2 years ago
Auf nach Kopenhagen! Wer zuletzt lacht, lacht am besten!
remix0991 2 years ago
jawolla!!!
cymru61 2 years ago
And I think it's wrong to say that you can express with anything else but violence. Kind of a medieval statement. Scream and yell if you want to, remember that you got the freedom of speech :)
maxjoin 2 years ago
i can scream as loud i want but no.one will give a shit. but if i burn a few cars and create chaos in a big city, things look a lot better :D and by the way, what car do you drive, so that i'll be able to look for it in copenhagen xD
cymru61 2 years ago
hey, after burning a few expensive cars in Copenhagen, make sure to take on board with Obama for his Nobel Peace Prize, you could get the Nobel Anarchist Prize
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
Hey! What about a Nobel Fun Prize? Maybe U should consider ;)
tuxnux 2 years ago
I can't find my red nose for the Noble clown prize, what about the Noble mutilated prize can we all have that prize please?
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
tuxnux
the video on your profile is FANTASTIC, an absolute MUST SEE , MUST UNDERSTAND and MUST PEACE.
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
Indeed. :D
tuxnux 2 years ago
And by the way, a lot of you seem to have the opinion that everyone who got power is evil, sinister and wants to control other people. Where do you got that from? Is it so hard to imagine that they would actually do what they believe is best for the population?
maxjoin 2 years ago
However several things prevent this from happening in the modern society. First of all the divison of the power in 3 and then right the freedom of speach. In a "democracy" like Iran, these things don't exists. So no democracy is not perfect, but it is working in a very good way i the West where all of these things to prevent abuse of the system exists
maxjoin 2 years ago
To those of you who keep calling Denmark a democracy:
If Denmark is a democracy and we have the technology to do it, then why haven't we faced coal, oil and gas out of our energy-supply a long time ago?
The argument goes that the economy prevents us from doing it, And you believing that is EXACTLY the point.
There is NOTHING (besides of course the laws of nature) that can prevent a democracy from doing things we want to do.
The economy does not stop us by chance, but by deliberate & evil design.
Ninomax72 2 years ago
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maxjoin 2 years ago
So by looking at the diffrent sources criticly I create my opinion mainly on reliable information. I don't just base my opinion on what is told in the media. So im not the mind controlled zombie you're trying to depict me like.
maxjoin 2 years ago
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maxjoin 2 years ago
maxjoin: Denmark has just recently taken another big step towards being a policestate as Germany did the after RAF's activities in the 70's by changing the law because they feared a citizens uprise.. This now means that the police can stop any citizens and frisk them, stop a demonstration and arrest everyone without any reason at all.. You now face 10000 kr fines and 40 days in jail if you are caught in a demonstration. Where is this democratic freedom you so blatantly believe in?
fsvsdv3vasdvsdvasdv 2 years ago
And yes i know your not the only one that thinks like that. Every time there is some international meeting, you show up. Some 10.000 when your the most. But let me tell you something, there is 731 mill living in Europe. So no you're not only one. But 99,99% don't agree with you.
maxjoin 2 years ago
10 000? nice one xD we're about 20 000 only in berlin... and what makes you believe in something? is it your intuition or has somebody told you to believe it? you now the answer, you're just afraid of ot, afraid of reality. i'm afraid to many people don't want to open there eyes to what's happening in our grusome world, and if you don't understand that, then i can't talk to you. you know i'm right really, don't you?
cymru61 2 years ago
oh 20000? I'm sorry. That's a lot more compared to europe's 731 mill... I create my opinion based on the world around me and myself. And by world I mean my freinds, my family, the community I live in, the media and yes, even what the government tells me! Based on all of those things I create my opinion. And how can i be sure that my opinion is based on the right information? I can't! And neither can you. But I can sort out what seems to be incorrect or dosen't match with other information
maxjoin 2 years ago
All the "democratic" rights you claim you have were achieved by disobidience and a civil uprise against the authoroties.. If you're defending "democracy", then you will have to know what it means..
fsvsdv3vasdvsdvasdv 2 years ago
The law you are talking about will never be used if you stay peaceful. So i got no problem with it. The only group it will hit is violent leftwingers like yourself, so i got no probem with that. The law was created to keep you guys from destroying copenhagen again. People in Denmark got the right to protest, it just have to be peaceful.
maxjoin 2 years ago
and by the way, fsvsdv3vasdvsdvasdv, if you we're peaceful from the start, the law would never have been passed. So you're actually creating your so called police state yourself :)
maxjoin 2 years ago
policestatess start then when democratie ends. everybody has a theoretical right to demonstrate and express their oppinion. how is it democratic, if state repression goes so far that people all over the world are beeing arrested for demonstrating? and if we didn't demonstrate, but just take whatever they tells, what would we be? take for exemple the french revolution: a little group of people governed over all the rest of the country. it is only because people fought back that they became free
cymru61 2 years ago
Im not talking about the world. Im talking about demonstrating violently in Denmark, a democratic state. This is not the 17th century, where no human rights existed. You got nothing to fight.
maxjoin 2 years ago
we have nothing to fight?? what's wrong with you? haven't you been following our conversations or are you really so narrow minded that you can't read between the lines? we are fighting for the abolition of capitalism, freedom of speech and against the police-states worldwide! for a free, socialist/ anarch-syndicalist world with no states, borders, religions, police forces and any govermentary ruling!
cymru61 2 years ago
You keep talking about policestates worldwide and freedom of speach. Well then don't burn cars in Europe, because there is no police state and we got freedom of speach (more or less in some eastern european countries). I would love to live in a world with no borders, states, religions, police forces. But in order to do that, every single individual of the 6 bilion in the world should get a long. That's not really going to happen any time soon... and by that i mean never.
maxjoin 2 years ago
but how do you express anger, if not by showing it openly? peaceful demonstartions are good, but don't achieve anything. only hard actions attract attention/ reaction. if we burn a big expensive car it is to attack the rich bastards owning it, not just sinple rampage.
cymru61 2 years ago
I think is wrong to say peaceful demonstrations don't achieve anything. Just look at the civil rights movement in USA. Hard/Violent action does attract a lot of attention and reaction, but most of the time it's bad. In denmark we got a new law giving harsh punishment to people who demonstrate violently, because of previous encounters with violent riots led by the extreme left.
And you can't know if it's a car owned by a rich person. Could be a person who used all of their savings on it.
maxjoin 2 years ago
I think you raise a GOOD question. Burning cars won't help, organised protests bring changes, I think. Forcing the government to hear what the population has to say in open debate might be a way. Why not invite the leaders in those protest. Think of it the other way around, they are NEVER included in protest, kind of rejected out of their fear or because they already know. Every protest should have an immediate answer, everytime. What do you think?
PauleQueenie 2 years ago
If you want to burn the big expensive cars, why not protest in Hellerup or elsewhere in the "Whiskey Belt"? I live in Copenhagen and I've seen the burned-down cars. 99% of them were perfectly ordinary 5-10 year old cars owned by average people, people like you and me.
henrikstevn 2 years ago 2
oh and by the way, you say the media and government try to manipulate you. Activst leftwingers don't?
maxjoin 2 years ago
you can't handle that most of the western population don't support your violence, and instead you make excuses that the democratic system isen't working. Grow up and realise the fact and the reality. People may be influensed by the media, but in general they vote for what they belive in, regardless of what the media tells them
maxjoin 2 years ago
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maxjoin 2 years ago
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Workers of the world unite against the money grabbing politicians.
Capitalism and fascism are two sides of the same barbarian coin.
Unite against the fascism, capitalism and racism!!!
We gonna bring the real democracy by the great socialist revolutions.
Nvever-ever condone to Obama because He is the same fucking greedy and bloodthirsty puppet bastard with Bush.
In the capitalist system there's not a real democracy. In this capitalist system there's a fake democracy and works only for the Riches.
workergirls 2 years ago
God damn hippies
LuiBui 2 years ago
Hmm....more canonfodder for the danish policeforce?!
Gonna be fun to see these kids begging the police to get them a Coca Cola and a big mac, after sitting few hours in the rainy streets :-)
AdrianDanmark 2 years ago
You have misunderstood, my dear friends. There has not been any capitalism in Denmark for quite a long time. Denmark is a soialistic country ... !
I suggest you bring your fire somewhere else
Best wishes
DanserMedDrenge 2 years ago
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mainmenu333 2 years ago
You are really "brave" picking on children and disabled who "get in your way".
Guess you guys were last in line, when brains where handed out.
Violence solves nothing.
slobowitz 2 years ago
you say violence is not a solution but what other means do we have? do you really think wrinting letters will do anythingß do you really think that those fat, rich arseholes give a shit about us?
if we don't show our anger who will?
protest is, saying that and that i don't like. resistence is making sure that and that won't happen again. so let's go out there and kick some arses and make capitalism history!
cymru61 2 years ago 4
Do you realy believe that destroying the city would improve your cause? If you protested peaceful, you could send a message by the number of people that came to the demo, not the number a cars you burnt. And you're right. No one will show your anger if you don't show, simply because they don't share it! You activsts allways ignores that fact that the currenty political system is the one the major part of the population has voted for. You're narrow minded and you only think on yourself
maxjoin 2 years ago
bullshit! the majority of people are unhappy, hard working and peanuts earning people, while a few rich bastards exploit the population. people take media such as television or radio as their profets and believe every word they say. same for our beloved politicans... do you think that there isn't a reason why for exemple in germany ALL left wing activists are permanently beeing surveyed by the BND (german FBI) ? i got arrested for having written and produced flyers saying fight back! (...)
cymru61 2 years ago
this capitalist system is only good for the few arseholes that run our countries, the world! industrie/ money rules the world, not the population... and then there are alwys people like you that will seriously believe all that bullshit they teach you at school, university and in the medias
cymru61 2 years ago
There is a reason why they teach me all the "bullshit" in school, and thats because there is proof that is how things works. And i not only being presented with the capatalist way to run things, but with all the political systems, and i can then choose what to believe. You just made the conclusion, that because schools, universities and medias is owned by the government, the population must be brain washed by the government. This is the 21th century, not nazi germany or communist russia.
maxjoin 2 years ago
so you think there is no police state? dictatorchips aren't such a wild idea as you say. they are possible, just we are beeing tought that we live in a "democratie". you don't want to think further than your school-books.. there is a reason why you have to read this and that and are forced to do what our goverments want -> school systems. you don't have a choice of what you learn.. our system is not only making a fool of us all, but also destroying our planet! stop capitalism!
cymru61 2 years ago 3
Yes it is. If i don't want the leader of my country to be the leader of my country, then i don't vote for him/her. In a dictatorship you can't. And stop talking about a police state. Every time you activists gather and you're met by a large force of police officers, you say it's a police state. Of course you're met by a large force of police, cause they have kind of learnt that you begin to destroy things, when you don't agree with the politicans decisions. Normal people vote.
maxjoin 2 years ago
"normal" people? and what about not a police state? who is gonna protect us from the cops? if we don't show any kind of resistence to their fucked up system, what are we then, normal? freedom of speech is not granted, or why do cops try to destrroy ous subcultures, demos and any other left wing activities?
cymru61 2 years ago 2
as soon as you go out to demonstrate, you are an ennemy to your state who will send cops out to bash you. so i'm not gonna let my lovely goverment to whatever it likes. no i'm gonna sabage any kind of police force, or any kind of stately repression. and i'm not the only oone who thinks like that, or why do you think that every time they have a conference or a meeting which is only there to globalise the systems, we are there fighting back?
cymru61 2 years ago 2
What the fuck are you talking about moron!? Why come everybody else can go out and demonstrate without the police tries to dissolve the demos? because they weren't agressive like you ignorant narrowminded left wing activists in the first place! if you don't thorw stones at them, they don't hit you with their sticks. it's as simple as that. And it's not a fucked up system*? there is police to make sure that the laws that the majority of the people have vote for. Left wings just ignore that fact.
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lovernuts1 2 years ago
YES, Fight the capitalist system!
sortkapel 2 years ago 7
Like i said before, you wont achieve jackshit, no one gives a fuck about 5000 stonethrowing german saps..And you know that dont you?
Garlig111 2 years ago
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lovernuts1 2 years ago
3: See you on the streets - With or without burning brigades? - I don't care - But the summit must be stopped, if not by the people, then who will increase the elites power to rule, who will make sure that people is finally put before profit?!
NB: Even the lead editor of Finalcial Times has commented, approved and agreed in the fact that capitalism is not going to last. It is simply selfdestroying!
troelsweb 2 years ago
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Garlig111 2 years ago
2: Burn down the city? - In Seattle it kickstarted the whole world in a fight against WHO, so dont come here and say it doesn't work. Is it wise as an argument? NO, allways try every other option first.
So, is there other options? As far the discussion is closed, the decissions made to try and safe the climate is ONLY valid and useable if it comes from the main reason of the (all ready started) catastrophy that will eventually end the world as we know it!
troelsweb 2 years ago
1: Do your objective research and you will find out how these meetings - Like G8 etc. - does nothing but ruin the, not really existing, oppertunities for the 3.world-countries to evolve. In the case of COP15 the money and profit is WAY more important to any westernworld politician attending the summit.
troelsweb 2 years ago
what is there to say... Its the same losers all over, they are going to come to Copenhagen to get a little meaning in their lifes. Whatever works for them, i just dont see why they cant find a more peacefull way to do it. But then again, i have got the IQ of a labrat..
Garlig111 2 years ago
Yes, you sadly have the IQ of a labrat. And if you really think that it's all about the violence, then you're misled. It's about stopping the COP15 to happen, using mainly non-violent direct action. Things are probably going to break, but that's a minority. Withouth the violence, media wouldn't care anyway, they can just go on with their daily business by writing their biased shit.
tjotjim 2 years ago 2
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Fact is that you wont achieve jackshit other than making Copenhagen a bit less pleasant to be in... You talk about overthrowing world capitalism, get real. Like a bunch of stone throwing saps are going to achieve anything other than entering their own little dream world a little futher. My guess is that the top story concerning you, will be how a police officer went over the line and brutally beat some 17 year old girl to a bloody pulp. It will be up for one week, then forgotten again.
Garlig111 2 years ago
Yeah, but is it me or my friends fault that massmedia only care about profit and headlines? I do believe in overthrowing worldwide capitalism, although I don't think it's time for militant war. Atleast not in Scandinavia.
I really don't care what you think about the movement, you obviously don't have any hope for the future. I apologize for caring about people and the health of our planet enough to actually believe that acting against the wrongdoers is the right thing to do. Fuck you.
tjotjim 2 years ago
Sad that so many good folks are so misguided. Clearly I don't support wanton violence, nor the destruction of your beautiful city. But you must realize that the evil you have invited to your fair town is disgraceful. Just remember how Denmark lost its sovereignty to the EU: deception. Do you really want global government and a global tax/control? Why not instead set up a gallows and hang each lying MFer as they arrive at the Bella? Go here on Youtube and weep:
/watch?v=JwF15xftmt8
lovernuts1 2 years ago
These idiots just wanna burn and destroy. What kind of solution is that? Every masked hooligan should be arrested to save the town.
deepkick 2 years ago
Sick people - stop that foolish campaign. It's always all right to demonstrate, but do it in a proper way if you really have a constructive message. People will never listen to you if you set things on fire.
And by the way, there's no reason Franz Ferdinand should be associated with this. It makes me sad to see their music used in such a stupid video.
EstherBlaireau 2 years ago
war on capitalism, war on drugs, war on terrorism... I feel like turning on my playstation.. Please do not burn Copenhagen since you will make a lot of innocent people regret. Murder the decision makers instead.
josisanchez 2 years ago
capitalism kills people every day. any time people thow a rock for stopping it, the reacts are: "how DARE you" and "this pisses me of." why isn't anybody saying that to the people responsible for the death of millions?
bassemandsv 2 years ago 3
Stupid fuck, go read a fucking book. Do you even have a friggin' alternative?
"Capitalism" kills people every day, you say. Be so kind as to list me the kind of society you want instead. Communism??? Clerical rule, like in the Middle East???
If your intentions are to burn down my city...
I fucking hope you muster the balls to come to this summit and get your head bashed in!!! The world will be a better place without you. Stupid illeterate fuck.
patientzero666 2 years ago
You write "Be so kind as to list me the kind of society you want instead."
The answer is simple: Democracy.
Ninomax72 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Apparently democracy is not good enough, this was implied as Denmark is a democraic society, a socialistic society even. But psycotic left wing ignorants who are convinced that any prosperous state or country is capitalistic, seems to disregard this fact.
patientzero666 2 years ago
Democracy sounds nice, but when it is a question between two puppet sides that are just a bunch of paid of bilderbergers and free masons that you can choose every 4th year? And when they do some crazy shit we should get the blame for choosing him/her.....
There is no democracy there is only demockery....
nyhtofylakas 2 years ago
Maybe so, but it stil beat dictatorship any day. As long as no better alternative is offered, deal with it and try to change the system in the spirit of real democracy.
Still, when ignorant dumbfucks come to my city, threatniing to burn it down in the name of fighting capitalism. I hope they all die, face down in a pool of liquid shit along with their banners and sick twisted ideals and mantras.
patientzero666 2 years ago
Is democracy and dictatorship the only alternatives in the world?
Hell ill think ill like a dictatorship better. At least they admit they are evil and and put some pride in it.
Thees democratic people want to use the climate change to make money control people even more.
I assume that you are danish and i would like to know how many civil liberties you have lost this year?
I don't think that burning cars is the solution, still this people believe in something bigger than x-factor
nyhtofylakas 2 years ago
Well then let me hear what you suggest instead of democracy.
One of the things I think is fundemental wrong with left wing activists is that they only work with extremes. There is no middle way.
Democracy is not perfect, every single individual doesn't have the same direct power. I believe that is why you call democracy "evil", that the guys in the top theoraticly could do as they want.
maxjoin 2 years ago
like in you can choose between pepsi or coca cola?
nyhtofylakas 2 years ago 3
Go throw your tantrums elsewhere!
monsieurfinn 2 years ago
What you do is not stop the meeting, but burn off old buildings, that is like a treasure. When u burn stuff, there comes Co2 helps global warming, and our planet will be destroyed even sooner, becouse of you! I will try to stop thesse videos to get on the internet becouse i care about our world, and our treasurres!
Never trust a cop? Ha! Never trust a guy wich do this stuff.
tikki100 2 years ago
Please realize that it's pretty dumb to burn off stuff at a climate convention, as it leads out CO2....
PiretsjQ 2 years ago 2
There is ZERO tolerance in Copenhagen.
You wont just be fighting cops.
Dagger76 2 years ago
You are right. Not just cops. Cops with sticks! But still only cops. There wont be some kind of supersoldier.
Popyoks 2 years ago
Hey !!
Come to Denmark !!!!, let have some fun with the them danish cops. Them danish cops are so fucking funny. All them funny cops`s wifes and there kids are so worry about cop15 - All the cops from high to "trainers" are called to Copenhagen.
So all the proviens city in Denamr are without them funny cops. So go to Århus or others big city in Denmak and demonstrate.
Dixe4y
dixie4y 2 years ago
Those lefties should be deported on an island somewhere. Or anything else, just get rid of them. What can they do other than destroy what it took other people centuries to build?
CarlPutz 2 years ago
Yeeeeah, because anarchy is answer to freedom... fucking tards...
How DARE you suggesting that burning my country's capital will change anything.. If anything, it'll just make you look less intelligent by comparision to the people you don't agree with. Your "enemy" wins every time you act like a fucking moron.
Damn this video pisses me off..
siljalin 2 years ago 5
One thing I can tell you activist crazies...
Being a socialist, I dislike capitalism as much as you do, but if you fuckheads come to Copenhagen and start trouble by destroying things and lighting fires, I guarantee you; you will be the ones who get burned!
When you destroy things in cities like this, you're damaging the common man, and if you didn't bother following the latest Danish election, CENTRAL Copenhagen is run by us socialists.... not the capitalists!