All games. Its always about proving yourself to someone who is supposed to accept you for you. Men do like a challenge to a point, but what man is going to reject a woman who goes out of her way to please him every way she can? The complaint I hear from women I know is that they can't find a man who will respect them for who they are - YET, the men they date are supposed to change and live up to their lofty expectations. Happiness is fining a person who accepts you for you - faults and all!
Women have been hard-wired in nature to need a man for protection and stability. Nothing wrong with that, but the mistake they make is to think that because a man is tall or rich he will offer the better protection. They obviously don't know the science of fighting in that a smaller man could, and usually does whup a taller mans azz. And just because a man has money; it doesn't mean he is going to be nice.
wow, a lot of guys still dont get it, women want a good man, but one that's not afraid to take charge, let them know how he feels, even if its angry...angry doesn't have to be disrespectful, assertive was the key word...they dont like pushovers...its simple guys, im a guy and i get it. can't be lovey dovey all the time, that's fake. lot of little boys out here playing peter pan...
Women will gladly pass up a nice guy for some stupid fuck that treats her like shit because he was a "challenge". Then when she has kids and finally fed up that's when she wants a nice guy.
Why would any decent guy want a high maintenance, do everything for me, no matter what you do for me I am never satisfied, the more you treat me right the greater chance I will cheat on you, I have no idea what I want in life, I have no future except on welfare, I tell you one thing but I really mean the opposite, ME ME ME ME ME. I mean I am absolutely shocked why any man wouldn't want such an incredible girl....LMAO :D
Games, Games, Games. It is always the same thing. It is always what the guy needs to do to impress the girl, how he can step up his game, what he needs to do to "earn it". I never, ever hear women saying what they need to do to get or keep the guy. Saddest thing is these type of selfish women always end up as single parents or in abusive relationships complaining that there are no good men out there. There are plenty of good men out there. Question is why they would want you.
Just because you aren't a nice guy doesn't mean you have backbone, it just means they are a dick who doesn't care about the woman, and talking hours on the phone does not show that you have no backbone or that you aren't "making it happen".... I agree there are nice guys like this but so called "bad guys" don't have backbones like you speak of and a woman who loses interest in a guy for this is a complete bitch and should learn to grow up -.-
Its ALOT of jewels to give to my son...I have ALOT of female friends and I heard, experienced, and was shown how females get down to dudes who actually value their opinion. #1 thing that always my attitude, ya don't need people to make yourself happy..females who know that other broads are attracted to him(which they will be) will not play that. Keep females on their toes. Don't give close to 100% unless she does. Don't share everything. Don't like it but thats society, everyone competing.
so true.. i listen to heavy metal (as well as all others styles as well) and i know women don't like that for the majority.. But on my first date with my now current fiancé of 2 years i pretty much let her know this is what i like.. That was always just one of my tests with women, if they can't listen or enjoy it or compromise... Goodbye..
What if the guy has a job that pays him so much that he has time to be on the phone with her? Actually, what nice guys do wrong is get involved with mean women.
Fuck, my relationship with my g/f abroad is almost similiar to what said in this video.......fuck, god damn, what am i doing, jeez, perhaps i should alter this and have some backbone and fibre, shit i will give it a try without hopefully puttting my relationship in total jeopardy, thanks for the advice, its amazing how u hit the centre of the issue, it almost scary, in a good way.
women seem bipolar by nature, you don't know what the hell you want! nice or thug, sensitive or strong, attention or space, you all are freaking crazy when it comes to what you want.
stupid lol... the formula that she's explaining is the reason those nice guys that finally get that chance to be in a relationship, end up being jerks or "dogs" because you create this monster.
This is the first time I have seen this video or any of your channels. It is amazing how simply you put thst to me after watching for several hours women proclaim that the nice guy isn't a protector, or if he's too nice he's a stalker, etc... That type crap is nonesense. I am a nice guy myself & I agree with your statement. Fellas its ok to be nice but you must also know when to put your foot down. When to make & take a stand. Very nicely said & put Ms Shay.
Black women, black women, i love y'all. I love every fiber of your being. You're the reason why I exist. But, y'all are too much damn work. I already work a full-time job and I don't need to come home to one. Why don't you tell us that you want a guy that's one way and when you get the guy, then you want him to be another way? It's quite confusing. That is not what your dating profile says. You say you want a nice guy and not a thug.
We love commonalities but we also expect differences. Dating a man who is JUST like us is like dating ourselves. Some women love that and that's cool. For those of us who do not, we expect differences and expect the man to stand his ground. He doesn't have to be rude or disrespectful about it, but he should be assertive.
I don't think she was saying that we like "difficult" men. She is simply saying that a lot of women like men who are stand their ground. In other words, a lot of women don't like push-overs. Some women do. I, personally, do not. That's not to say he should be rigid and disrespectful. He should not be that way. A lot of women like men with their own minds and if a man is always agreeing with the woman (whether it be just to shut her up or not), it is a turn off.
@tierajashane1 And here goes another contradiction; hence, the reason we black men are so confused as to what a black women want. You said, "if a man is always agreeing with the woman (whether it be just to shut her up or not), it is a turn off". So if the woman has great ideas most of the time, and we're both mentally on the same page, it would be a turn off to agree with her? Also, if a man attempts to appease his woman by agreeing or "compromising" - that's also a bad thing? I don't get it...
All this is bullshit! A relationship is 2 people being NICE TO EACH OTHER! What's all this about "make her earn this or that, be willing to stand up to her??" What's wrong with wanting to be around someone you care about? Let's spend time around each other, and BE NICE TO EACH OTHER. I want a girlfriend, and I don't care about much other than that. I don't have any strong beliefs, other than liking PS3 and surfing the internet. I want a woman to be NICE to me, and me be NICE to her!
This is so pissing me off,women say they dont want dogs for men,yet they will go out and "GET" a F@$%&!& Dog as a Pet, the 4 legged kind, to have around & clean up after..But i do agree you probably have to stand firm, & NOT be wishy washy,, ive read that from dating gurues.
stay a bad guy if your single. wait to meet the right women, then let it be know you don't mind changing, if you stay together otherwise, too bad.
women don't like to me good guys. you've been trained by someone else and it's no challenge for them.
this is only what i've noticed about women. i've made the mistake by not knowing what i did wrong. and why i was unattractive all of a sudden to women.
@chebf123 That is STUPID philosophy that most women of your ilk believe ten-fold. These same women get the bad guys of their dreams, but contribute to the divorce statistics. Contribute to being hurt and paying child support. But comes that second marriage and you're at an age where you've finally matured...ALL of a sudden Good Guys are on the map right?! A woman's "bad guy" philosophy is Bullshit...with a capital 'B'!
I love this shit! This stuff is all common sense to me nowadays. I'm in my mid 20s and I'm usually successful with women. But at one point when I was younger I had no "game" it seemed, and I did all that nice guy shit and the apology stuff. It all came down to having confidence and respect for yourself. I want to speak for the men out there... now you don't have to be a douchebag, "always acting like a tough guy" to attract the woman...just be a decent dude but still having a backbone as well,
Bullshit, SOME women love bad boys and want nothing 2 do with nice guys because they like the excitement & the thrill of the chase. after years of making bad decisions & allowing these so called bad boy 2 use them up run threw them, reality along with age sets in, the bad boys are looking for younger women or finally they realize the error of there ways and by default a nice guy becomes more appealing. the same type of guy they should have given a chance in the 1st place. make better decisions
Only thing I don't get it is about the agreeing with a women like that's a bad thing. As a man you know damn well you ain't winning no argument with a argument so its easier to say "yea ok you're right whatever'. I hate arguing. It's stupid and pointless. To me that's not backing down, its just conceeding and avoiding a stupid argument over nothing.
Truth is, women want assholes, period! Assholes play w/ women's emotions constantly, thus giving the indication of a "challenge" while abusing them. Assholes don't cater to women, and tolerate their b/s. This is what most women waste their youth on: a "good challenge".
But Father Time evens the game a bit. Those nice guys that women abused or ignored prosper later in life, so these same women who would want them are flushed down the toilet.
Typical woman. Heres the truth, women dont like good guys. At least until they are getting older. They are attracted to bad guys cuz they like the excitement, but as they get older, they seek out that guy that is good, that is complete, and that is able to take care of them. Its a double standard. I used to b good, but I quit that, simply cuz they arent worth what I can offer. Guys, save youre "being good" for the one you plan to stay with. The rest, just have fun with them and move on to da nex
@Apollo2003 That or until they have 2-3 kids with multiple losers and say in their head "Crap, that cool dude who caed about me, with a good job, and mental stability seems like a good idea right about now"
@Apollo2003 Some women like "bad" guys and have admitted to it. I don't understand it. I never did like those types. I do like a man with a "backbone," though. That's not to say that I would run all over him purposely to see if he has one, but at some point, I expect to see some assertiveness. Having a "backbone" and being "bad" are totally different. "Bad" men dog women out and don't care. A man with a "backbone" is good to a woman but will let it be known that she's not running everything.
i say the best way to live life is to be yourself and if a woman doesnt like you for who you are then sweep her to the side cause she aint worth your time and you got save yourself alot of headaches.Im not prepared to jump through some hoops just for a woman, No thanks
By what you said women have a twisted concept of what they should want from a man. When a man talks to you on the phone for hours that means he likes you ,and a woman views that as being "weak". For a woman to want a man in her face and disagreeing with everything she says is twisted. I don't know about other guys but i do not want to be with a woman that is looking for a fight ,i want a woman that is looking for love and affection ,that explains why so many women are single and unhappy.
Contd. Just because he's on the phone for hours doesn't mean he isn't a hardworking man. When a guy really want that woman they find time no matter to get that woman. He prolly lost sleep trying work and talk to her. A man will sacrifice something for the lady he feels is the one.
This vid was ok. I agree to a certain extent. U stated the guy was in a long distance relationship. Communication is key to an relationship and long distance relationships are solely trusted on communication. If he wasn't talking for hours and wanted to talk for 30 mins it would be problem. Talking for hours on the phone long distance show he care about her and his affection. He don't have an hour to just go visit her.
I am soooooo confused..women want so much why?......i asked my my folks (mother and father) at diffrent times why women want so much my dad said "well son thats just how women are" my mom said "well son men want alot too they want women to cook clean and do the dishes ect..." i was like O_o huh so im still like huh....i guess i'll never know...girls act like they hate me weather im nice or not -__- its kind of funny and sad at the same time i don't know what to make of it.... *scratches head*
@Rozlelous1165 Biologically, women have to select the best partner to mate with to have children. That is why women are so selective. I mean, we can go against this biological imperative, but most stick with it. Also, biologically speaking, men are not as selective, because they just (still speaking biologically) want to spread their seed around and have as many children as possible. They also can go against this biological imperative.
@Rozlelous1165 Women are a lot more diffecult than guy's are. It is not really fair than guy's need to understand us while we are the weird ones, but it's probably not going to change, cause it's just how women and man work.
@onlyway2christ1 Women have traditionally needed financially caring for, so that is why the man would take her out...to prove that he would have the means to care for her should their relationship status progress. Now that the "breadwinning status" has changed to include both genders...then it should be more equal...the man pays, the woman pays, or you go dutch...whatever. It's just that we tend to hang onto traditions even when they are no longer useful.
When I had my truck, my house, money and dressed nice, women hardly looked at me when I passed them on the street. Now that I'm homeless, smell bad, unshaven, with an ambiguous homeless look, I seem to be getting desirous looks from women in business suits and flashy attire. I'm wondering if it's the challenge that they're looking for.
I don't see what the attraction is between men and woman. I understand the sexual attraction men have towards women but after a half hour of that what else does the man need the woman for? It seems that men hold all the cards. They are the providers, the major decision makers, the protectors, the disciplinarians, family guiders, etc... I just don't get it. Any woman should fall on her knees thanking God that she has a man. That just my pov.
There was this beautiful girl much younger than me that I really liked. She was easy to get which made me ask myself if I really wanted to be with her the rest of my life. When she started playing hard to get I started wanting her move than ever and regretted my attitude towards her.
This BS about women want a good man is BS. All you need to get a female is. 1. Be in good shape, 2. Have a big dick, 3. have money/job. Thats all that really matters to them. Most guys don't have more than one of these things(some have none). Basically women want a male porn star. The list don't lie. lol
Good video but unfortunately all this PUA stuff is all old school and outdated.
It requires you to change who you are to be successful. This turns men into fakes and actors. What happens if you are genuinely not an alpha male? What happens then?
A dude from London has come up with a new model that will put you all out of business. If you really want to date ladies, check the Amazon book Secrets of the Players: A Guide to Success with Multiple Ladies.
well i'm still single, so obviously my ''nice-guy'' approach to courting women has not worked. thanks for the advice about relationships,ur like the sister i never had!
People who like "a challenge," be they male or female, need to grow the heck up. Dating is supposed to be about finding companionship. It's not supposed to be some kind of predator/prey contest. That's just childish.
How To Be A Dating Woman; 1. Chase after, suck off, entertain, go lez, for all the jocks, thugs in highschool, college, and beyond while completely ignoring nice guys 2. Get pregnant by said jocks/thugs out of wedlock with no commitment, career prospects, vision, etc 3. Chase him around for child support, drama, sex, etc 4. Get on Oprah, Tyra Banks, Blogs, Friends Houses talkin about how Men aint shit 5. Look for Nice guy in your 30s to clean up the mess. 6. Your daughters will repeat this...
@mrtundra45- I know thats right!!!!! Its challenging to go through the trials and tribulations of a relationship to stay together. I think women and men that do all the challenging stuff while dating miss out on a good man or woman if they come by. The main thing is supposed to be compatibility. That's what relationships are for is to HELP each other like you said. But in today's society, all of that is lost or at least most of it anyway.
She knows what she is talking about. I remember once i was dating a girl who's boyfreind/ baby daddy cheated on her. While we dated she tried to be disrespectful to me. We were drunk. She thought i was another dog. Well, i had to put my foot down and tell her not to treat me like that and leave me be. I ignored her for a couple of days and all of sudden one day she approached me and tried to talk to me as if nothing happend. She still liked me and she never disrespected me again.
This is really the best advice, but most guys are unable to appreciate its significance. I have no problem attracting and keeping quality women. The one thing that works for me is this: I love myself and I am damn proud of myself. I really do not care about what others thing about me, including my woman. I do and say whatever i believe. However, I do respect people, men and women regardless of their age, race, sex, religion...etc., and I expect the same. If my woman disrespects me, she regrets.
Dude that she's referring to is prett wack to me. If you gotta give a chick a piece of your mind, just for her to respect you, then she's a bogus broad to begin with. You tellling me you don't respect me because I choose to agree with you? GTFOHWTBS.
If that person misinterpret their own suggestion to you as being weak minded it's a clear sign they themselves are not the one. Its sad when they aren't astute enough to realize when they have wisdom to offer someone. IMO that's dangerous because I have to wonder how often a person like that misinterpret other external events!
If you got to lay someone out to respect you then they obviously are not the one for you. This is about meeting the right one not a sparring match!
In my experience a high percentage of women prefer a man who they can mentally and physically control. Sure there is a good percentage of women that prefer a man with a strong backbone, but my advise is to engage in deep conversation and know what type of woman you are dealing with and if you want the challenge or not.
To get a girl you need either 1. Money 2. Become a dick who couldn't give a shit if a girl likes you and don't treat them nicely. Act like girls are nothing to you and they'll be all over you.
Basically everything your mommy taught you: be nice and respectful will get you NOWHERE with a girl.
I don't care what any woman says. I'm gonna be a nice guy until the day I die. That's just part of who I am but I refuse to let any woman disrespect me or try to control me. If someone really cared about you and like you for you then that person wouldnt disrespect you or try to change you.
People who need a challenge is still livng in the teenage life, instead of taking matters in their own hands by fixing their own attitude and taking care of their own business. Also, I'll tell you that these people will never be satisfied cause u can't change a man/woman, they change themselves and the change only will continue to get either worse or better, it's not stable...
Also, to men out there having a problem with the "like a challenge" part -
Don't equate "challenge" with "conflicting bitch". You want to go out with a smart, awesome person, not a doormat, yes? It's a challenge. It's what a real relationship is. You can rise to it easily if you keep it cool between you.
You don't have to be an asshole to take life by the horns sometimes, and you don't need to be an Adonis or Apollo to stand tall and proud about who you are. Don't give up on yourself.
i disagree with the first part. just bc he spends less time on the phone with you doesn't mean he's necessarily working or "taking care of business" when the two aren't talking. he's prob just spending more time with a more interesting or easier girl. 5-10 mins on the phone with you, 1-2 hrs on the phone with the main chick. more mature women will realize if a man is genuinely interested in you and not just the cookies, he's putting in work to get to know you and show you his conversation game.
Okay, this is the first time I've heard a woman's perspective (as the dude always considered the nice) of what nice guys do wrong that I can definitely agree with. I think there's a thin line between "nice guy" and "bitch" or as a pastor I knew as a child used to say "henpeck" lmao (never knew where that term came from)
I rather not date that kind of woman. I don't need a woman who wants to be conflicting or wants to play childish games. I need an intelligent woman whose opinion I will respect and listen to.
Actually everything in this country is backward. If a man spends hours on the phone w u shows his affection to u. If he flip flops his oppinions then explain to him he may have his own opinion but that u appreciate him catering to wat makes u happy
Speaking of challenge. There is this girl I've liked for a long time. We went on a date once, I tried to kiss her, she flat out rejected me saying that she was shy. She thought I'd never talk to her again, but I did and then we went on several more dates. It took a while to get that first kiss but since I liked her and respected her so much, It meant the world to me. My point is, I don't want to be with a chick whose just ganna hand it over in a heart beat. It's a turn off.
man my step dad mooches off my mom like no tomorrow.. and has a corny ass job while hers like required a good degree and stuff.. if I have to be a loser can't I be like that guy and mooch off my wife..
Wow, that's harsh and unreasonable. What's with this challenge stuff anyway? It's commonly understood that a person who is a "challenge" is a person who's difficult. Only a masochist wants to deal with difficult people. Why not be easy-going? Why isn't that considered a best option? Life itself is a challenge enough. Why do Western women--particularly American & Canadian women--seem to think being difficult is a good way to be? Good men want a good woman, not a sparring partner.
@AllPro777 I am not being harsh, I am telling the truth. When I say "challenge" I am not saying for the woman to be like Fort Knox and show no interest at all in you when in actuality she likes you. I am saying as a man it is your job to select the woman & earn her heart instead of her opening her leg, mind and heart too soon. When a woman is too "easy" it is often a turn off to good men or attracts the wrong guys. Being a challenge means using discernment when selecting a potential mate.
awww.. maybe you need to change... i mean you can only be nice to a certain extent...
sometimes you need to show a woman who's the fucking boss.. you cant be handing shit on a silver plate all the time... only surprise her with something super nice on her bday.( or valentines day- im not into that shit but i know most women are so yhh)
@LLOYD19851012 awww.. maybe you need to change... i mean you can only be nice to a certain extent...
sometimes you need to show a woman who's the fucking boss.. you cant be handing shit on a silver plate all the time... only surprise her with something super nice on her bday.( or valentines day- im not into that shit but i know most women are so yhh)
women dont know what they want ask this woman if she is single.
when a guy gets into a relation ship with awesome he does not clear how she look 20 years from now how boring she is . men don t complain about there gf but women
always have a problem all the time. i got a gf that talks to me every day
and nether of us are boring she respects me and i do her.....she never ask how i feel
she knows not to if i want to ill start to tell her (me and she only want to give not get)
My advice to men is to BE YOURSELF! Whether its being a "nice guy" or "bad guy." Don't change who YOU are to appease a woman. Being yourself will eventually bring that special woman to you.
what am i doing wrong? So your saying i should start robbing banks and blow up cars for a girl to like me. I've seen this guy who robbed a store so a girl can like him. She said she likes bad thugs. Nice guys have to change who they are to get with a girl. It's so fucking unbelievable, I have to leave America. Such a disgrace...
If a nice guy could gain the experience of bedding down 10 to 20 women, he would no longer act like a nice guy, but like a macho man, and the change would be permanent. The trouble is, western women will not allow this to happen, and so the man is stuck being a nice guy.
The thing that gets me is that you say that if you have time to talk for "hours" it's a turn off. Do you even consider the fact that maybe we have that because we make time. Just because someone has that time doesn't mean that they aren't productive.
I knew a guy who dated this girl. He was a "nice guy" to her. One day, he grew a back bone and stood up to her. What did she do? She dumped him. She dumped him after he stood up to her. What did HE do wrong?
I've met women who didnt like me until I "challenged" them. I lose respect a woman you have to manipulate to be in a relationship with them. I agree with other posters to leave these chicks alone b/c you dont want her crazy genes being passed to your future children.
dating advice is no more than a formular to manipilate your dates opinion or veiw of you.be yourself and let that partner fall in love with YOU or not.manipilation at its best is snake oil,and at its worst is witchcraft.its not honest and sooner or later the real you will come out anyway.
The more i ignore women the more they seem interested in me,and i be kind of cheeky,but not in a hurtful way,if she asks me is her butt big ,ill tell her its big,dont go chasing after them cause its a big turn off,if your with someone you make sure she knows your gona stand your ground and that know your prepared to walk at any stage,always be yourself never change because of her,if your after the most beautiful woman,you gota find out whats going on in her head ,whats she into ,put her at ease
The Lord himself revealed to me that many of these women out here are either snakes or bitches (female dogs). SO I'LL Just stay away from most of them until God say so.. You right about what HALF of what you're saying. tho Lady...
You could have just said that Women don't like weak a*s men, who can't defend their own position on anything. They are constantly compromising to the woman. Women like men who don't need them, or that are a little bit elusive.
@Zodslayer this is that stupidity that annoys men to extreme levels. Just because someone isn't argumenative or because someone doesn't want to play a bunch of games doesn't make him weak. Maybe he just doesn't care to argue with you. News flash men do this with other men too, don't think that men are aggreeing with you because were sooooo in love with you that we are afraid to argue with you. Men just dont like to argue, we don't even argue with each other as much as women do.
@Zodslayer As a matter of fact, when men meed other argumenative men we say, man dat dude trippin and leave him alone, an argumenative loud confrontational man has no friends and is ignored. Men like to keep things simple and just enjoy the time we would spend with women or even our guy friends, and to think that someone who speaks softly is weak is wrong. Talk means nothing, its just that, a bunch of talk, wanna know someones character, look at their actions over time.
A yes man and a nice man, not the same thing... Nice guys can't finish first because women do want a challenge. I don't know where it was written that men wanted a challenge and we want to chase and all of that bullshit. The words challenge and chase sound like games to me. And grown men don't play games outside of xbox. What men want is for women to be upfront. I don't think a man needs to hide his enthusiasm for a woman in order to induce some kind of challenge. BS denied
I don't think that anyboby knows what they want anymore! They're told how to live their lives by the media. People can even buy a lifestyle nowadays. It's getting hard to relate to all this over analizing of the basic human behaviour and nobody's happy just being alive and enjoying life as it is. Let's shut up and live!
Don't worry nice guys we are going end up with best women, the most educated, the articulate, the socially prepared and emotionally grounded with no drama attached to their shoes. Leave the graffiti fingernail women alone who looked they got off a pole, they will be okay. Nice guys just stick to your guns and I'll guarantee you the one that comes your way will be worth the wait. You prepared yourself with a good education now prepare yourself for a good women. Don't look for her in the hallways
All games. Its always about proving yourself to someone who is supposed to accept you for you. Men do like a challenge to a point, but what man is going to reject a woman who goes out of her way to please him every way she can? The complaint I hear from women I know is that they can't find a man who will respect them for who they are - YET, the men they date are supposed to change and live up to their lofty expectations. Happiness is fining a person who accepts you for you - faults and all!
Homemadegameguru 1 month ago 13
Short answer: Being a pussy
KleWdSide 1 month ago
Great video!
BATTERY2121 1 month ago
Women can't love bad boys and then complain about men being assholes. Choose one or the other.
shubroto81 1 month ago 24
Women have been hard-wired in nature to need a man for protection and stability. Nothing wrong with that, but the mistake they make is to think that because a man is tall or rich he will offer the better protection. They obviously don't know the science of fighting in that a smaller man could, and usually does whup a taller mans azz. And just because a man has money; it doesn't mean he is going to be nice.
TheRedalert7 1 month ago 4
To many games!!
nenedent 2 months ago 3
wow, a lot of guys still dont get it, women want a good man, but one that's not afraid to take charge, let them know how he feels, even if its angry...angry doesn't have to be disrespectful, assertive was the key word...they dont like pushovers...its simple guys, im a guy and i get it. can't be lovey dovey all the time, that's fake. lot of little boys out here playing peter pan...
lastoftheki 2 months ago
Yes I do like it cool.
willcanbe 2 months ago
in other words don't be a pussy thats her job
SiCkbOmbS 2 months ago
Women will gladly pass up a nice guy for some stupid fuck that treats her like shit because he was a "challenge". Then when she has kids and finally fed up that's when she wants a nice guy.
bigguy228 2 months ago 11
And thats why I date my hand. It nevers talks back and I dont have to worry about emotional issues.
Crowsfeet7 2 months ago
Why would any decent guy want a high maintenance, do everything for me, no matter what you do for me I am never satisfied, the more you treat me right the greater chance I will cheat on you, I have no idea what I want in life, I have no future except on welfare, I tell you one thing but I really mean the opposite, ME ME ME ME ME. I mean I am absolutely shocked why any man wouldn't want such an incredible girl....LMAO :D
buggybear77 2 months ago 5
Games, Games, Games. It is always the same thing. It is always what the guy needs to do to impress the girl, how he can step up his game, what he needs to do to "earn it". I never, ever hear women saying what they need to do to get or keep the guy. Saddest thing is these type of selfish women always end up as single parents or in abusive relationships complaining that there are no good men out there. There are plenty of good men out there. Question is why they would want you.
buggybear77 2 months ago 3
Just because you aren't a nice guy doesn't mean you have backbone, it just means they are a dick who doesn't care about the woman, and talking hours on the phone does not show that you have no backbone or that you aren't "making it happen".... I agree there are nice guys like this but so called "bad guys" don't have backbones like you speak of and a woman who loses interest in a guy for this is a complete bitch and should learn to grow up -.-
Thats5Bucks 2 months ago 3
Its ALOT of jewels to give to my son...I have ALOT of female friends and I heard, experienced, and was shown how females get down to dudes who actually value their opinion. #1 thing that always my attitude, ya don't need people to make yourself happy..females who know that other broads are attracted to him(which they will be) will not play that. Keep females on their toes. Don't give close to 100% unless she does. Don't share everything. Don't like it but thats society, everyone competing.
sincere2da 2 months ago
so true.. i listen to heavy metal (as well as all others styles as well) and i know women don't like that for the majority.. But on my first date with my now current fiancé of 2 years i pretty much let her know this is what i like.. That was always just one of my tests with women, if they can't listen or enjoy it or compromise... Goodbye..
Gtrplyr1 2 months ago
She right fellas, think about it and listen.
buffalosbm1 2 months ago
Wow so women liked stubborn men. Okay I get it.
JamesJ30t 2 months ago
Wait, you don't mind talking to a guy for hours but then it's a turnoff? Then why the hell would waste time talking then?
3089280288 2 months ago
What if the guy has a job that pays him so much that he has time to be on the phone with her? Actually, what nice guys do wrong is get involved with mean women.
openfist247 2 months ago
Bad guys R more FUNNNNNNN ( NOT SCARED / SHY ).
Tex200950 2 months ago
Fuck, my relationship with my g/f abroad is almost similiar to what said in this video.......fuck, god damn, what am i doing, jeez, perhaps i should alter this and have some backbone and fibre, shit i will give it a try without hopefully puttting my relationship in total jeopardy, thanks for the advice, its amazing how u hit the centre of the issue, it almost scary, in a good way.
species6339 2 months ago
women seem bipolar by nature, you don't know what the hell you want! nice or thug, sensitive or strong, attention or space, you all are freaking crazy when it comes to what you want.
bran1226 2 months ago
Since "Date Diva" means "Date goddess" the main thing nice guys do wrong is revealed in the video called "What Women Want is Worship".
vincent15641 2 months ago
stupid lol... the formula that she's explaining is the reason those nice guys that finally get that chance to be in a relationship, end up being jerks or "dogs" because you create this monster.
beastnstuff 2 months ago
This is the first time I have seen this video or any of your channels. It is amazing how simply you put thst to me after watching for several hours women proclaim that the nice guy isn't a protector, or if he's too nice he's a stalker, etc... That type crap is nonesense. I am a nice guy myself & I agree with your statement. Fellas its ok to be nice but you must also know when to put your foot down. When to make & take a stand. Very nicely said & put Ms Shay.
LilYoac21 3 months ago
Black women, black women, i love y'all. I love every fiber of your being. You're the reason why I exist. But, y'all are too much damn work. I already work a full-time job and I don't need to come home to one. Why don't you tell us that you want a guy that's one way and when you get the guy, then you want him to be another way? It's quite confusing. That is not what your dating profile says. You say you want a nice guy and not a thug.
soulfulman1971 3 months ago 53
We love commonalities but we also expect differences. Dating a man who is JUST like us is like dating ourselves. Some women love that and that's cool. For those of us who do not, we expect differences and expect the man to stand his ground. He doesn't have to be rude or disrespectful about it, but he should be assertive.
tierajashane1 3 months ago
I don't think she was saying that we like "difficult" men. She is simply saying that a lot of women like men who are stand their ground. In other words, a lot of women don't like push-overs. Some women do. I, personally, do not. That's not to say he should be rigid and disrespectful. He should not be that way. A lot of women like men with their own minds and if a man is always agreeing with the woman (whether it be just to shut her up or not), it is a turn off.
tierajashane1 3 months ago
@tierajashane1 And here goes another contradiction; hence, the reason we black men are so confused as to what a black women want. You said, "if a man is always agreeing with the woman (whether it be just to shut her up or not), it is a turn off". So if the woman has great ideas most of the time, and we're both mentally on the same page, it would be a turn off to agree with her? Also, if a man attempts to appease his woman by agreeing or "compromising" - that's also a bad thing? I don't get it...
paulhope123 2 months ago
@tierajashane1
Yes, but why do you think men dont have that problem?
Ive never come across a guy who found women who were too agreeable to be unattractive.
runtodahills 2 months ago
You guys do know this is all opinions.....
skypers3 3 months ago
All this is bullshit! A relationship is 2 people being NICE TO EACH OTHER! What's all this about "make her earn this or that, be willing to stand up to her??" What's wrong with wanting to be around someone you care about? Let's spend time around each other, and BE NICE TO EACH OTHER. I want a girlfriend, and I don't care about much other than that. I don't have any strong beliefs, other than liking PS3 and surfing the internet. I want a woman to be NICE to me, and me be NICE to her!
BobbyBrady09 3 months ago 9
Word!
vegaaman 3 months ago
This is so pissing me off,women say they dont want dogs for men,yet they will go out and "GET" a F@$%&!& Dog as a Pet, the 4 legged kind, to have around & clean up after..But i do agree you probably have to stand firm, & NOT be wishy washy,, ive read that from dating gurues.
karlbuttler 3 months ago
good guys bad guys, my opinion.
stay a bad guy if your single. wait to meet the right women, then let it be know you don't mind changing, if you stay together otherwise, too bad.
women don't like to me good guys. you've been trained by someone else and it's no challenge for them.
this is only what i've noticed about women. i've made the mistake by not knowing what i did wrong. and why i was unattractive all of a sudden to women.
once you turn into a good guy, you're ruined.
chebf123 3 months ago 2
@chebf123 That is STUPID philosophy that most women of your ilk believe ten-fold. These same women get the bad guys of their dreams, but contribute to the divorce statistics. Contribute to being hurt and paying child support. But comes that second marriage and you're at an age where you've finally matured...ALL of a sudden Good Guys are on the map right?! A woman's "bad guy" philosophy is Bullshit...with a capital 'B'!
CazK88 2 months ago
I love this shit! This stuff is all common sense to me nowadays. I'm in my mid 20s and I'm usually successful with women. But at one point when I was younger I had no "game" it seemed, and I did all that nice guy shit and the apology stuff. It all came down to having confidence and respect for yourself. I want to speak for the men out there... now you don't have to be a douchebag, "always acting like a tough guy" to attract the woman...just be a decent dude but still having a backbone as well,
kev69323 4 months ago
Bullshit, SOME women love bad boys and want nothing 2 do with nice guys because they like the excitement & the thrill of the chase. after years of making bad decisions & allowing these so called bad boy 2 use them up run threw them, reality along with age sets in, the bad boys are looking for younger women or finally they realize the error of there ways and by default a nice guy becomes more appealing. the same type of guy they should have given a chance in the 1st place. make better decisions
djobsession 4 months ago
shes right, it make the guy look like a little bitch.
wes2469 4 months ago
You should do a video on "the ladder theory"
Honestly after reading a lot about that this video doesn't mean much because women say they want something but don't actually mean it.
MrBlackwoodTV 4 months ago
Only thing I don't get it is about the agreeing with a women like that's a bad thing. As a man you know damn well you ain't winning no argument with a argument so its easier to say "yea ok you're right whatever'. I hate arguing. It's stupid and pointless. To me that's not backing down, its just conceeding and avoiding a stupid argument over nothing.
Antrizzle2009 4 months ago
Truth is, women want assholes, period! Assholes play w/ women's emotions constantly, thus giving the indication of a "challenge" while abusing them. Assholes don't cater to women, and tolerate their b/s. This is what most women waste their youth on: a "good challenge".
But Father Time evens the game a bit. Those nice guys that women abused or ignored prosper later in life, so these same women who would want them are flushed down the toilet.
ApollosInsight 4 months ago
Too complicated ? LMAO just being honest.
mastersparxxx 4 months ago
Im not nice anymore!!!! Women Have turned me into the mad angry black weather man from family guy and to day's forcast is... IT'S GON RAIN!!!!!!!
imfreeinfinity 4 months ago 3
Guys listen to what she is saying and man up.
datingwomensex 4 months ago
I usually think women's advice for men sucks, but this was good. I agree with this.
USC2587 4 months ago
Typical woman. Heres the truth, women dont like good guys. At least until they are getting older. They are attracted to bad guys cuz they like the excitement, but as they get older, they seek out that guy that is good, that is complete, and that is able to take care of them. Its a double standard. I used to b good, but I quit that, simply cuz they arent worth what I can offer. Guys, save youre "being good" for the one you plan to stay with. The rest, just have fun with them and move on to da nex
Apollo2003 4 months ago 50
@Apollo2003 That or until they have 2-3 kids with multiple losers and say in their head "Crap, that cool dude who caed about me, with a good job, and mental stability seems like a good idea right about now"
408Machine 4 months ago
@Apollo2003 Some women like "bad" guys and have admitted to it. I don't understand it. I never did like those types. I do like a man with a "backbone," though. That's not to say that I would run all over him purposely to see if he has one, but at some point, I expect to see some assertiveness. Having a "backbone" and being "bad" are totally different. "Bad" men dog women out and don't care. A man with a "backbone" is good to a woman but will let it be known that she's not running everything.
tierajashane1 3 months ago 3
Why do I have to act like a dickhead to get with a girl I like? I need help to understand this shit. Why can't I just be myself. What the fuck?
Suku919 4 months ago
thanks sweet,i am on my way to get the best girl in world,smart or not ,she not bad but beautiful that what a man want in woman
UWAGBOE2 4 months ago
i say the best way to live life is to be yourself and if a woman doesnt like you for who you are then sweep her to the side cause she aint worth your time and you got save yourself alot of headaches.Im not prepared to jump through some hoops just for a woman, No thanks
mrboyface 4 months ago 5
@mrboyface Sounds Good to me!!!!
karlbuttler 3 months ago
@NaturallyCurly1990 Gentlemen are confident...and confidence works with ladies. ^^
faetrn 4 months ago
@Akibadono A thousand thumbs up!!!!
faetrn 4 months ago
By what you said women have a twisted concept of what they should want from a man. When a man talks to you on the phone for hours that means he likes you ,and a woman views that as being "weak". For a woman to want a man in her face and disagreeing with everything she says is twisted. I don't know about other guys but i do not want to be with a woman that is looking for a fight ,i want a woman that is looking for love and affection ,that explains why so many women are single and unhappy.
keithlamontbraggs 4 months ago
Contd. Just because he's on the phone for hours doesn't mean he isn't a hardworking man. When a guy really want that woman they find time no matter to get that woman. He prolly lost sleep trying work and talk to her. A man will sacrifice something for the lady he feels is the one.
mUzIkbOIjOjO 4 months ago
This vid was ok. I agree to a certain extent. U stated the guy was in a long distance relationship. Communication is key to an relationship and long distance relationships are solely trusted on communication. If he wasn't talking for hours and wanted to talk for 30 mins it would be problem. Talking for hours on the phone long distance show he care about her and his affection. He don't have an hour to just go visit her.
mUzIkbOIjOjO 4 months ago
so if i'm understanding this right being accommodating = no back bone......
vanityrose12 4 months ago
I am soooooo confused..women want so much why?......i asked my my folks (mother and father) at diffrent times why women want so much my dad said "well son thats just how women are" my mom said "well son men want alot too they want women to cook clean and do the dishes ect..." i was like O_o huh so im still like huh....i guess i'll never know...girls act like they hate me weather im nice or not -__- its kind of funny and sad at the same time i don't know what to make of it.... *scratches head*
Rozlelous1165 4 months ago
@Rozlelous1165 Biologically, women have to select the best partner to mate with to have children. That is why women are so selective. I mean, we can go against this biological imperative, but most stick with it. Also, biologically speaking, men are not as selective, because they just (still speaking biologically) want to spread their seed around and have as many children as possible. They also can go against this biological imperative.
faetrn 4 months ago
@Rozlelous1165 Women are a lot more diffecult than guy's are. It is not really fair than guy's need to understand us while we are the weird ones, but it's probably not going to change, cause it's just how women and man work.
DaggelDutch 4 months ago
every guy is different
hoopdreams2g2btru 4 months ago
I cannot believe I actually like this video for once shay ur right !
dldlane8 4 months ago
You could be almost dying, but all they'd say is, "BE A MAN ALREADY!!!"
That is Such BULL!!!
Sure, women before gentleman, but after a while it should really go BOTH WAYS! Hey, you scratch my back,,, I scratch yours!!!
He treats her out for dinner 2 x's, she can AT LEAST take him out ONCE!
I believe this is y men are so mean, cause they're so fed up w/this ONE WAY RELATIONSHIP BULLS - - T!!!
onlyway2christ1 4 months ago 2
@onlyway2christ1 Women have traditionally needed financially caring for, so that is why the man would take her out...to prove that he would have the means to care for her should their relationship status progress. Now that the "breadwinning status" has changed to include both genders...then it should be more equal...the man pays, the woman pays, or you go dutch...whatever. It's just that we tend to hang onto traditions even when they are no longer useful.
faetrn 4 months ago
I couldn't have agreed more, perfect !
AquaMeow101 4 months ago
My boyfriend wasn't a challenge :D LOL and he's the best! I love him x
crystalpeters1 5 months ago
Jump through all their hoops like a trained seal and then MABYE.
Fat chance.
danieljh 5 months ago
GREAT point!
Mumsilius 5 months ago
damn girl you sexy
TheSundayDelight 5 months ago
Women are all crazy. They can never be satisfied so good men need to stop trying. I learned that on my own.
gip1279 5 months ago
When I had my truck, my house, money and dressed nice, women hardly looked at me when I passed them on the street. Now that I'm homeless, smell bad, unshaven, with an ambiguous homeless look, I seem to be getting desirous looks from women in business suits and flashy attire. I'm wondering if it's the challenge that they're looking for.
billupphilup 5 months ago
I don't see what the attraction is between men and woman. I understand the sexual attraction men have towards women but after a half hour of that what else does the man need the woman for? It seems that men hold all the cards. They are the providers, the major decision makers, the protectors, the disciplinarians, family guiders, etc... I just don't get it. Any woman should fall on her knees thanking God that she has a man. That just my pov.
billupphilup 5 months ago
There was this beautiful girl much younger than me that I really liked. She was easy to get which made me ask myself if I really wanted to be with her the rest of my life. When she started playing hard to get I started wanting her move than ever and regretted my attitude towards her.
billupphilup 5 months ago
I learned that nice guys should avoid negative mean bitches
mattamal1 5 months ago
Ima guy and this is really true. Much respect to you and this video.
8Questpuss 5 months ago
This BS about women want a good man is BS. All you need to get a female is. 1. Be in good shape, 2. Have a big dick, 3. have money/job. Thats all that really matters to them. Most guys don't have more than one of these things(some have none). Basically women want a male porn star. The list don't lie. lol
jr7rockets 5 months ago
Good video but unfortunately all this PUA stuff is all old school and outdated.
It requires you to change who you are to be successful. This turns men into fakes and actors. What happens if you are genuinely not an alpha male? What happens then?
A dude from London has come up with a new model that will put you all out of business. If you really want to date ladies, check the Amazon book Secrets of the Players: A Guide to Success with Multiple Ladies.
Bmn72London 5 months ago
Here's my solution to this garbage , you go get a japanese girl and forget you ever heared of america.
azkeyz 5 months ago
well i'm still single, so obviously my ''nice-guy'' approach to courting women has not worked. thanks for the advice about relationships,ur like the sister i never had!
381MEDALLION 5 months ago in playlist 381MEDALLION's Favorited Videos
People who like "a challenge," be they male or female, need to grow the heck up. Dating is supposed to be about finding companionship. It's not supposed to be some kind of predator/prey contest. That's just childish.
fileboy2002 5 months ago
WTF why are girls so confusing
mavsrock 5 months ago
How To Be A Dating Woman; 1. Chase after, suck off, entertain, go lez, for all the jocks, thugs in highschool, college, and beyond while completely ignoring nice guys 2. Get pregnant by said jocks/thugs out of wedlock with no commitment, career prospects, vision, etc 3. Chase him around for child support, drama, sex, etc 4. Get on Oprah, Tyra Banks, Blogs, Friends Houses talkin about how Men aint shit 5. Look for Nice guy in your 30s to clean up the mess. 6. Your daughters will repeat this...
crzune 6 months ago 122
@crzune SO TRUE!!!
asaadiq 6 months ago
Florida state!! wooohoo
UncleMack211 6 months ago
@mrtundra45- I know thats right!!!!! Its challenging to go through the trials and tribulations of a relationship to stay together. I think women and men that do all the challenging stuff while dating miss out on a good man or woman if they come by. The main thing is supposed to be compatibility. That's what relationships are for is to HELP each other like you said. But in today's society, all of that is lost or at least most of it anyway.
GODSLAWBIBLESLIDES 6 months ago
She knows what she is talking about. I remember once i was dating a girl who's boyfreind/ baby daddy cheated on her. While we dated she tried to be disrespectful to me. We were drunk. She thought i was another dog. Well, i had to put my foot down and tell her not to treat me like that and leave me be. I ignored her for a couple of days and all of sudden one day she approached me and tried to talk to me as if nothing happend. She still liked me and she never disrespected me again.
kristyle06 6 months ago
dude was lame. but i've been there. been through enough not to compromise at all. how i managed to stay married all of these years ...
ukendcx2000 6 months ago
three, four hour discussions; first mistake right there, no need to tell the rest ...
ukendcx2000 6 months ago 2
hey soon im comming out with some vidz that going to change youtube relationship game check soon yall see what i have to say
pacedeli24 6 months ago
420 likes :D
JJWiemer1 6 months ago
If I have to go through all of this...it's not worth it.
CALICOTV301 6 months ago 5
This is really the best advice, but most guys are unable to appreciate its significance. I have no problem attracting and keeping quality women. The one thing that works for me is this: I love myself and I am damn proud of myself. I really do not care about what others thing about me, including my woman. I do and say whatever i believe. However, I do respect people, men and women regardless of their age, race, sex, religion...etc., and I expect the same. If my woman disrespects me, she regrets.
MyErick2012 6 months ago
I totally disagree with what she says. I think u should phrase. I think you should say men want a certain level of challenge.
Plus when you so call GURUS say something I think ya'll should also say, this is different for different men, because not all men are a like.
it also seems like anyone can be guru. Lets be real. you should have some kind of background
donklue 6 months ago
Dude that she's referring to is prett wack to me. If you gotta give a chick a piece of your mind, just for her to respect you, then she's a bogus broad to begin with. You tellling me you don't respect me because I choose to agree with you? GTFOHWTBS.
KS2500 6 months ago
AT LEAST YOU REAL...I SEE YOU RESPOND TO PEOPLE...UNLIKE OTHER FEMALES WHO JUST WANNA RUN THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS
arcadeMUZIK1 6 months ago
THE "NICE" GUY,SHOULD START DOING THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF EVERYTHING HE'S DOING NOW!!!!thats all...
onlyjoetee 6 months ago
If that person misinterpret their own suggestion to you as being weak minded it's a clear sign they themselves are not the one. Its sad when they aren't astute enough to realize when they have wisdom to offer someone. IMO that's dangerous because I have to wonder how often a person like that misinterpret other external events!
If you got to lay someone out to respect you then they obviously are not the one for you. This is about meeting the right one not a sparring match!
Egamer2u 7 months ago
In my experience a high percentage of women prefer a man who they can mentally and physically control. Sure there is a good percentage of women that prefer a man with a strong backbone, but my advise is to engage in deep conversation and know what type of woman you are dealing with and if you want the challenge or not.
OceanJackson40 7 months ago 2
Life is challenging enough..... a woman is supposed to HELP a man NOT Challenge him..... smh!
mrtundra45 7 months ago 7
i get the feeling that couple is gonna break up...again. sounds like a cycle.
chiefdancingostriche 7 months ago
To get a girl you need either 1. Money 2. Become a dick who couldn't give a shit if a girl likes you and don't treat them nicely. Act like girls are nothing to you and they'll be all over you.
Basically everything your mommy taught you: be nice and respectful will get you NOWHERE with a girl.
Vertigo2903 7 months ago 4
im a man and i like your video
anflstory 7 months ago
I don't care what any woman says. I'm gonna be a nice guy until the day I die. That's just part of who I am but I refuse to let any woman disrespect me or try to control me. If someone really cared about you and like you for you then that person wouldnt disrespect you or try to change you.
e84fresh 7 months ago 5
@lovein30days
Great video. Completely right. Its not often that girls are able to give correct insight into female attraction.
MasterChrisReb 7 months ago
What nice guys do wrong? The problem is right there, he’s nice. In a nut shell, women are selfish.
Galanttttt 7 months ago 10
People who need a challenge is still livng in the teenage life, instead of taking matters in their own hands by fixing their own attitude and taking care of their own business. Also, I'll tell you that these people will never be satisfied cause u can't change a man/woman, they change themselves and the change only will continue to get either worse or better, it's not stable...
buckda54 7 months ago 4
this is deep!
emactwo 7 months ago
Also, to men out there having a problem with the "like a challenge" part -
Don't equate "challenge" with "conflicting bitch". You want to go out with a smart, awesome person, not a doormat, yes? It's a challenge. It's what a real relationship is. You can rise to it easily if you keep it cool between you.
You don't have to be an asshole to take life by the horns sometimes, and you don't need to be an Adonis or Apollo to stand tall and proud about who you are. Don't give up on yourself.
Kang5030 7 months ago
I like challenges,fun and difficult >:D
Epiclyroyal12 7 months ago
i disagree with the first part. just bc he spends less time on the phone with you doesn't mean he's necessarily working or "taking care of business" when the two aren't talking. he's prob just spending more time with a more interesting or easier girl. 5-10 mins on the phone with you, 1-2 hrs on the phone with the main chick. more mature women will realize if a man is genuinely interested in you and not just the cookies, he's putting in work to get to know you and show you his conversation game.
DatLilFreakyBoy 8 months ago 2
Dear misslovein30days,there is a very good energy about you..God bless..
onlyjoetee 8 months ago
Lmfao yall niggaz need to.man da fuck up for real let ur ballz hang theses females playin yall be a man not another one of her female friends smh
thmsat3 8 months ago 2
everybody's happy to be a baby daddy. stone love and nothing to lose.
rammstein11004 8 months ago
There are five things each man needs to find a woman:
1. Money
2. Lov...oh wait, all women want is money.
PRESTOSAURUSREX 8 months ago 8
Okay, this is the first time I've heard a woman's perspective (as the dude always considered the nice) of what nice guys do wrong that I can definitely agree with. I think there's a thin line between "nice guy" and "bitch" or as a pastor I knew as a child used to say "henpeck" lmao (never knew where that term came from)
refuse2bstopped 8 months ago
i agree with this video
15551cue 8 months ago
i think i have the opposite problem i always stand up for what i believe in but then she calls me a know it all for that .
bobtheredskin123 9 months ago
I rather not date that kind of woman. I don't need a woman who wants to be conflicting or wants to play childish games. I need an intelligent woman whose opinion I will respect and listen to.
jesusneverexisted300 9 months ago 48
if you can stay on the phone with her for 3-4 hours, you can also have sex with her for 2-3 hours ;)
cookedbake 9 months ago
Actually everything in this country is backward. If a man spends hours on the phone w u shows his affection to u. If he flip flops his oppinions then explain to him he may have his own opinion but that u appreciate him catering to wat makes u happy
Wifey2525 9 months ago 2
heeeeyyy boobooo lol
macmane134 9 months ago
Speaking of challenge. There is this girl I've liked for a long time. We went on a date once, I tried to kiss her, she flat out rejected me saying that she was shy. She thought I'd never talk to her again, but I did and then we went on several more dates. It took a while to get that first kiss but since I liked her and respected her so much, It meant the world to me. My point is, I don't want to be with a chick whose just ganna hand it over in a heart beat. It's a turn off.
FifaSpect 9 months ago 2
man my step dad mooches off my mom like no tomorrow.. and has a corny ass job while hers like required a good degree and stuff.. if I have to be a loser can't I be like that guy and mooch off my wife..
cazopy 9 months ago
Funny. My lady loves that I'm a nice guy.
lobo81865 9 months ago
I don't like a challenge..
no not at all..
absolutely not..
cazopy 9 months ago 70
@cazopy Then you are not the type of quality of man I would recommend for a quality woman!
lovein30days 9 months ago
@lovein30days
Wow, that's harsh and unreasonable. What's with this challenge stuff anyway? It's commonly understood that a person who is a "challenge" is a person who's difficult. Only a masochist wants to deal with difficult people. Why not be easy-going? Why isn't that considered a best option? Life itself is a challenge enough. Why do Western women--particularly American & Canadian women--seem to think being difficult is a good way to be? Good men want a good woman, not a sparring partner.
AllPro777 9 months ago 124
@AllPro777 I am not being harsh, I am telling the truth. When I say "challenge" I am not saying for the woman to be like Fort Knox and show no interest at all in you when in actuality she likes you. I am saying as a man it is your job to select the woman & earn her heart instead of her opening her leg, mind and heart too soon. When a woman is too "easy" it is often a turn off to good men or attracts the wrong guys. Being a challenge means using discernment when selecting a potential mate.
lovein30days 9 months ago
Its not what us nice guys are doing wrong
it's what you fail to notice
Ghecco09 9 months ago 10
@Ghecco09 YESS!! AMEN BROTHER!!
RyGuy4554 9 months ago
awww.. maybe you need to change... i mean you can only be nice to a certain extent...
sometimes you need to show a woman who's the fucking boss.. you cant be handing shit on a silver plate all the time... only surprise her with something super nice on her bday.( or valentines day- im not into that shit but i know most women are so yhh)
im sure you will find the one
Casha16 9 months ago
I have been single for 9 years, because every woman I have been with dumps me because i'm to nice.
LLOYD19851012 9 months ago
@LLOYD19851012 awww.. maybe you need to change... i mean you can only be nice to a certain extent...
sometimes you need to show a woman who's the fucking boss.. you cant be handing shit on a silver plate all the time... only surprise her with something super nice on her bday.( or valentines day- im not into that shit but i know most women are so yhh)
im sure you will find the one
Casha16 9 months ago
im jumping from women video to women video and im starting to think i should cut my penis off and give up
Tewyel 9 months ago 16
nice guys are nice guys...that is the only thing they do wrong
catchfree84 10 months ago 2
women dont know what they want ask this woman if she is single.
when a guy gets into a relation ship with awesome he does not clear how she look 20 years from now how boring she is . men don t complain about there gf but women
always have a problem all the time. i got a gf that talks to me every day
and nether of us are boring she respects me and i do her.....she never ask how i feel
she knows not to if i want to ill start to tell her (me and she only want to give not get)
ssscybro2 10 months ago
My advice to men is to BE YOURSELF! Whether its being a "nice guy" or "bad guy." Don't change who YOU are to appease a woman. Being yourself will eventually bring that special woman to you.
rich5248 10 months ago 3
His first screw up was a long distance , second talking to much.
TheGreatDebate123 10 months ago
what am i doing wrong? So your saying i should start robbing banks and blow up cars for a girl to like me. I've seen this guy who robbed a store so a girl can like him. She said she likes bad thugs. Nice guys have to change who they are to get with a girl. It's so fucking unbelievable, I have to leave America. Such a disgrace...
LK9Icepick 10 months ago 4
If a nice guy could gain the experience of bedding down 10 to 20 women, he would no longer act like a nice guy, but like a macho man, and the change would be permanent. The trouble is, western women will not allow this to happen, and so the man is stuck being a nice guy.
klyde333 10 months ago 2
The thing that gets me is that you say that if you have time to talk for "hours" it's a turn off. Do you even consider the fact that maybe we have that because we make time. Just because someone has that time doesn't mean that they aren't productive.
gamelvr1 10 months ago 5
haha " when you're on the phone with her, how can you be working" ( and making money for her) ... idiot
globalnova 10 months ago
I knew a guy who dated this girl. He was a "nice guy" to her. One day, he grew a back bone and stood up to her. What did she do? She dumped him. She dumped him after he stood up to her. What did HE do wrong?
needles1987 10 months ago 4
@needles1987
He was ugly and she found someone better.
AirForceGirl05 10 months ago
@needles1987 lol i like that question
PlatinumPrince09 10 months ago
i am a"nice guy" , i am 42 and i have been in 5 "incidents"
2 consumate relationships ruined by them.. i got over needy etc and ruined the rest as unrequited,
can you say dieing alone! :-)
WAPTek2 10 months ago
all women can be got, u just need the skill
321atm 10 months ago
"What nice guy do wrong!"... that's just hilarious.
Captainjack463 10 months ago
all women care about is money - - if you have the change you can get any woman you want
ricknicklesarts 11 months ago
I've met women who didnt like me until I "challenged" them. I lose respect a woman you have to manipulate to be in a relationship with them. I agree with other posters to leave these chicks alone b/c you dont want her crazy genes being passed to your future children.
hrobbins 11 months ago
dating advice is no more than a formular to manipilate your dates opinion or veiw of you.be yourself and let that partner fall in love with YOU or not.manipilation at its best is snake oil,and at its worst is witchcraft.its not honest and sooner or later the real you will come out anyway.
juseph29 11 months ago
It seems like your talking about respect. Men want to be respected. Women want to be respected.
theRubyRunner 11 months ago
The more i ignore women the more they seem interested in me,and i be kind of cheeky,but not in a hurtful way,if she asks me is her butt big ,ill tell her its big,dont go chasing after them cause its a big turn off,if your with someone you make sure she knows your gona stand your ground and that know your prepared to walk at any stage,always be yourself never change because of her,if your after the most beautiful woman,you gota find out whats going on in her head ,whats she into ,put her at ease
remotaurog 11 months ago
live? hmm...
CreativeShot 11 months ago
The Lord himself revealed to me that many of these women out here are either snakes or bitches (female dogs). SO I'LL Just stay away from most of them until God say so.. You right about what HALF of what you're saying. tho Lady...
theright1allthetime 11 months ago
I can't understand the logic of these women for the life of me.
oconstanti 11 months ago
You could have just said that Women don't like weak a*s men, who can't defend their own position on anything. They are constantly compromising to the woman. Women like men who don't need them, or that are a little bit elusive.
Zodslayer 11 months ago
@Zodslayer this is that stupidity that annoys men to extreme levels. Just because someone isn't argumenative or because someone doesn't want to play a bunch of games doesn't make him weak. Maybe he just doesn't care to argue with you. News flash men do this with other men too, don't think that men are aggreeing with you because were sooooo in love with you that we are afraid to argue with you. Men just dont like to argue, we don't even argue with each other as much as women do.
rehsa2194 11 months ago 2
@Zodslayer As a matter of fact, when men meed other argumenative men we say, man dat dude trippin and leave him alone, an argumenative loud confrontational man has no friends and is ignored. Men like to keep things simple and just enjoy the time we would spend with women or even our guy friends, and to think that someone who speaks softly is weak is wrong. Talk means nothing, its just that, a bunch of talk, wanna know someones character, look at their actions over time.
rehsa2194 11 months ago
A yes man and a nice man, not the same thing... Nice guys can't finish first because women do want a challenge. I don't know where it was written that men wanted a challenge and we want to chase and all of that bullshit. The words challenge and chase sound like games to me. And grown men don't play games outside of xbox. What men want is for women to be upfront. I don't think a man needs to hide his enthusiasm for a woman in order to induce some kind of challenge. BS denied
raventakayama 11 months ago 8
I don't think that anyboby knows what they want anymore! They're told how to live their lives by the media. People can even buy a lifestyle nowadays. It's getting hard to relate to all this over analizing of the basic human behaviour and nobody's happy just being alive and enjoying life as it is. Let's shut up and live!
1969atam 1 year ago
Don't worry nice guys we are going end up with best women, the most educated, the articulate, the socially prepared and emotionally grounded with no drama attached to their shoes. Leave the graffiti fingernail women alone who looked they got off a pole, they will be okay. Nice guys just stick to your guns and I'll guarantee you the one that comes your way will be worth the wait. You prepared yourself with a good education now prepare yourself for a good women. Don't look for her in the hallways
beyondrace666 1 year ago 9