OK, its simple. IF you can match my actual experience as well as show documentation that proves your opinion concerning seaplanes vs flying boats prove it. Otherwise my years in the C.G. working as an HU16e Flight Mech. as well as my experience @ Dean Franklin Aviation trumps your " opinion" . Flying Boat & Seaplane were terms that were never actually defined either type of aircraft if you go back and read various publications of the 20 through the 40s. i worked on a Seaplane not a boat !!
@R777JAA I think it was a publicity stunt to show the soviets just what could be carried -the same car can be seen in the background as Lord Tedder walks past (5.39)
I guess "amphibian" or "triphibian" would just confuse him even more, but they are technically more correct than "sea plane". Floats, sponsons, water rudder, etc.,.... nah... just leave it at a flying boat doesn't have landing gear and a seaplane does.
BTW, what plane was a glider, recip. powered plane, jet powered plane, a mix of jet and recip, "rocket" powered, land plane and triphibian?
OK you who think your an expert. I AM a former U.S, Coast Guard HU16a Seaplane/amphib Flight Mech. After my enlistment(5 years) was up I worked for the Man who owned the rights to repair,inspect and manufacturer Grumman seaplane parts. Dean Franklin of Franklin Aviation Miami Fl. Hate ta tell ya. Seaplanes do have a hull and they are watertight .If you can,t see the "stepped hull on a seaplane your blind. If you can land and taxi in "Old Goat" its a seaplane. A Flying boat has no landing gear.
@pinwizz69 Surely a 'seaplane' is a plane that has the addition of floats - wing mounted and/or under fuselage mounted and not an integrated part of the original airframe design.
Flying boats are/were designed with a water tight hull as part of the main fuselage and they include bilge pumps. Flying boats can include a build it under carriage within the hull structure - Catalyna PBY being a good example. Any 'stepped hull' that is seen on a seaplane is additional structure fitted to underside.
@007TruthSeeker Actually you are the one who is incorrect. A seaplane is ANY plane that has been converted to make water landings/take offs - by addition of floats (either wing mounted or fixed under the main fuselage) A flying boat is, as the name suggests a boat shaped hull integral to the underside of the main fuselage that is designed to fly. They can cope with much heavier sea conditions than sea planes can and are of a different class of aorplane.
@007TruthSeeker My apologies and thank you for clarifying this. I see that I was right in my description but wrong in the naming. Seaplane is, as you pointed out, the general clasification which is then sub devided into either flying boat or float plane. I was making the distinction between the two sub catagories but incorreclt using the term seaplane when I should have used float plane.
Thanks to your generous and enthusiastic comments I acknowledge the difference.
Wonderful! I've just watched a PBS documentary on the airlift and it used some of this footage. It's really helpful to see the original film from the time to appreciate how the world came together to help a former enemy. It was perhaps our other "finest hour"?
Nice video of Berlin airlift. NOTHING, however, to do with houseboats.
007TruthSeeker 1 month ago
OK, its simple. IF you can match my actual experience as well as show documentation that proves your opinion concerning seaplanes vs flying boats prove it. Otherwise my years in the C.G. working as an HU16e Flight Mech. as well as my experience @ Dean Franklin Aviation trumps your " opinion" . Flying Boat & Seaplane were terms that were never actually defined either type of aircraft if you go back and read various publications of the 20 through the 40s. i worked on a Seaplane not a boat !!
pinwizz69 4 months ago
Short Sunderland?
Bikinbest 4 months ago
@Bikinbest Indeed it is. One of the more bulkier flying boats.
alfsal67 4 months ago
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I think one person must be a nazi, for disliking the video
alexander1485 5 months ago
Some nice footage, good to see the long-forgotten Avro Tudor as well as Yorks
CaptBubble 7 months ago
Good film but why where we sending Volkswagen Beetles back to Germany
R777JAA 1 year ago
@R777JAA I think it was a publicity stunt to show the soviets just what could be carried -the same car can be seen in the background as Lord Tedder walks past (5.39)
mcgeechan6600 1 year ago
I guess "amphibian" or "triphibian" would just confuse him even more, but they are technically more correct than "sea plane". Floats, sponsons, water rudder, etc.,.... nah... just leave it at a flying boat doesn't have landing gear and a seaplane does.
BTW, what plane was a glider, recip. powered plane, jet powered plane, a mix of jet and recip, "rocket" powered, land plane and triphibian?
Retired Navy SA-16 Plane Capt.
willievictorwv2 1 year ago
OK you who think your an expert. I AM a former U.S, Coast Guard HU16a Seaplane/amphib Flight Mech. After my enlistment(5 years) was up I worked for the Man who owned the rights to repair,inspect and manufacturer Grumman seaplane parts. Dean Franklin of Franklin Aviation Miami Fl. Hate ta tell ya. Seaplanes do have a hull and they are watertight .If you can,t see the "stepped hull on a seaplane your blind. If you can land and taxi in "Old Goat" its a seaplane. A Flying boat has no landing gear.
pinwizz69 1 year ago 9
@pinwizz69 Surely a 'seaplane' is a plane that has the addition of floats - wing mounted and/or under fuselage mounted and not an integrated part of the original airframe design.
Flying boats are/were designed with a water tight hull as part of the main fuselage and they include bilge pumps. Flying boats can include a build it under carriage within the hull structure - Catalyna PBY being a good example. Any 'stepped hull' that is seen on a seaplane is additional structure fitted to underside.
tomburley 4 months ago
@tomburley Wrong. A seaplane lands on water. Hull or floats. Stop being ridiculous.
007TruthSeeker 1 month ago
@007TruthSeeker Actually you are the one who is incorrect. A seaplane is ANY plane that has been converted to make water landings/take offs - by addition of floats (either wing mounted or fixed under the main fuselage) A flying boat is, as the name suggests a boat shaped hull integral to the underside of the main fuselage that is designed to fly. They can cope with much heavier sea conditions than sea planes can and are of a different class of aorplane.
tomburley 1 month ago
@tomburley Seaplane: any aircraft able to operate from the water. It has nothing to do with floats vs. hull floatation. Check a dictionary.
007TruthSeeker 1 month ago
@007TruthSeeker My apologies and thank you for clarifying this. I see that I was right in my description but wrong in the naming. Seaplane is, as you pointed out, the general clasification which is then sub devided into either flying boat or float plane. I was making the distinction between the two sub catagories but incorreclt using the term seaplane when I should have used float plane.
Thanks to your generous and enthusiastic comments I acknowledge the difference.
tomburley 1 month ago
Can we all get something understood? These are flying boats, NOT sea planes. They are not the same thing
jeremy1000100 1 year ago 3
Dear All,
I have some questions about psychology:
(1) Why do we love flying?
(2) Why do we enjoy to pilot an sea plane?
(3) Comparing with flying an "wheel-landing-plane", what are the joy and excitment to fly a sea plane?
(4) How does piloting an sea plane different from piloting an "land plane"?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE for your creative ideas and brainstorm!!! :)
applesweeter 1 year ago
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applesweeter 1 year ago
I never knew that they used seaplanes in the airlift. Makes sense, though...just one more way to get them in other than using the airports.
oklahoma47 1 year ago
thanks for uploading this!
amartinjoe 2 years ago
Wonderful! I've just watched a PBS documentary on the airlift and it used some of this footage. It's really helpful to see the original film from the time to appreciate how the world came together to help a former enemy. It was perhaps our other "finest hour"?
Bullettube 3 years ago